Picture Discs - Are They AWFUL?
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2018
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I'l tell ya, picture discs sound AMAZING on a Crosley Cruiser
Hahaha!😂😂😂
LOL Nailed it!!!
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How dare you, Crosleys may be bad, but some people buy them for a budget and how it looks
@@lenoraalexandreapeeohh9981 they look cheap and ugly. Plus there are better alternatives under $100.
I hate it when the ONLY vinyl version of an album is a picture disc.
qualorii same! It’s so frustrating! 😡
Vinyl Eyezz I know the solution! Just press one yourself. Probably sounds better than a picture disc anyway
Good point
Like Tool Lateralis
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 i have that one. its not too bad on mine. sounds fine except for a few more crackles and pops
I prefer any type of colored vinyl over picture discs 🤷🏻♂️
yeah, i love colored LPs..not picture discs.
Why don’t they just have the disc with a picture on it and then cut the grooves on it ???
@@Peterrdee because the grooves arent cut, theyre pressed.
@@Peterrdee there are some where the picture is between clear sides and they sound great
That sandwich process seems ridiculous. Why not just put the pictures between two pucks of clear vinyl? That way they still look decent and actually sound good because the stylus is playing through vinyl and not some thin plastic sheet.
Now THAT would be a great idea! :D
Right?
Because then it would make the image underneath fuzzy
Aqua Dood maybe fuzzy, but visible. And better yet, listenable!
@@vinyleyezz I think that is how the bart simpson record in the video was made. Most shaped picture disks are clear around the edge unlike regular round disks. I have also seen an Iron Maiden shaped disk that had a piece broken off but was still being held in place by the picture in the middle.
Personally for me, I’ve never had any huge gripes with picture discs. The sound quality on every picture disc I own is decent, besides maybe some slightly louder surface noise.
I agree, I have several picture discs, Rage Against The Machine, Selena, Star Wars SDTK, to name a few. None have sounded bad to me. I'm wanting to buy the TOOL Lateralus vinyl with picture discs but was hesitant due every bad thing I've heard about picture discs. But again, I've never had an issue the picture discs I have.
I don't get it either. I've had more issues with regular black vinyl than my picture discs.
Clean picture discs with a good turntable sound good, especially newer ones. There's no huge lack in quality compared to regular vinyl anymore. No, they don't sound perfect, but saying they are bad is simply incorrect.
Agreed. Saying they're BAD is just a bit of an overstatement
disagree.. ok.. nowadays, picture discs sound a little bit better, but surface noise still is a huge issue
@@ToenS HUGE issue? I don't see it like that. Yes, there is NOTICEABLE surface noise, but when the music is playing, you can't hear it. Between songs, there is light surface noise, but that's all. No big deal.
No, I have yet to get a picture disc that sounds good. Colored vinyl, yes. Picture discs, NO!
Ian Scotto Rosano
If there's surface noise between tracks you can guarantee you're hearing it during.
You may not think you notice it but it's there and it sounds bad.
If there's a picture disc I really want (due to great look and great music), I typically will buy it along with regular vinyl copy for listening.. Picture discs are just for show.
If they was for show, they wouldn't put music on them.
I have loads of picture discs. Some sound rubbish, some sound fine. They ALL look amazingly cool though!
As an aside, I have a couple of Def Jam picture discs from the late 80s that actually have a disclaimer on them stating that they may not sound as good as a normal disc.
I’ve got a limited edition copy of Yellow Submarine and Eleanor Rigby by the Beatles, on a picture disc, and it sounds pretty good.
PkmariO64 I’ve got a sgt. pepper one and I don’t think it’s too bad, I have another copy that is regular vinyl to really get the good quality
Britney Spears recently released one for “Baby One More Time” and the sound quality is actually amazing
lana
Cause it’s Remastered. :)
Good god, am I really old enough to remember when an album that needs to be remastered now first came out? Has sound technology really advanced that much since "99?
It sucks that lateralus is not available on normal LPs
I know right! Ughhhh
What sucks more is that they have never officially reissued Ænima. They should get on that. Right after they finish their new album...
Christian Sibole agreed! I hope the new album comes out during my lifetime lol 😂
Also the tracks are slightly out of order on it which is kinda lame.. for album they want you to listen to as a whole how do you switch the tracks around??
Sometimes you have to just break down and buy/play the CD.
After the storm- Kali Uchis, Tyler the creator, and bootsy Collins
I was just talking to my RA the other day and noticed a Crosley Cruiser sitting on his shelf...ugh
Hahaha 🔥🔥🔥
I happen to stumble upon that same picture disc album of Tool's Lateralus at Wal-Mart of all places. Despite the sound quality of picture discs, I LOVE the heck out of my new Tool LPs. Another amazing album added to my collection.
that Bartman single is amazing!!
I’m only here cause I saw Tool
Glad you’re here Hackerman Gage! Tool is awesome! 😎
Vinyl Eyezz I actually learned a lot by this video! Thank you
Hackerman Gage No problem buddy!
I have one picture disc that I listen to on occasion and I haven't really noticed a dip in quality. It always sounded fine to me but I wouldn't buy another one. They seem more like a novelity to me than anything.
Personally, I wouldn't buy a picture disc unless there were no other options for that particular album. I currently only have one in my collection (the Black Friday 2016 RSD record of songs from MLP:FiM) and the pops and clicks drove me nuts. I remember walking into a record store and the owner was trying to push picture discs on me. I guess they didn't sell well. :P
I'm really glad that you posted this video as I've been wondering about this issue, myself. I very much appreciate the explanation re: how picture discs are made as it clearly justifies my suspicions. Like you, I also love the Lateralus record (ALL Tool material, to be honest), but I don't even try to play it, since the first spin, as I noticed at first listen that no amount of cleaning was going to help - so I stick with the Lateralus CD.
Here is my question to you: What about COLORED vinyl? I've also noticed some issues with colored discs and I have a bunch of them!
I've recently bought picture / colored discs from Mastadon, Interpol, Rage Against the Machine, Tool (10,000 Days European pressing), Interpol, Fall Out Boy and Puscifer (the most disappointing as this is my favorite release from 2018).
Thanks Jarrett!
Mike
Day Tripper - The Beatles
Hey Jarrett! Back in the late 60s and early 70s, they would make cardboard records that were on cereal boxes. Can you try covering on those? Also, where did you get that Bart Simpson record? It looks cool
That’s a good idea! I’ll try to cover that topic! The Bart Simpson Record I borrowed from a friend for this video. It’s from his private collection, I believe he got it when he was a kid. Not sure where.
In Poland they used to make postcards that you could play on a record player, there's also been examples of chocolate records (which were apparently good for one or two plays)
I agree picture discs sound worse than starndard black vinyls but they are look so cool that I still buy them If they are pressed correctly. Best example of well made picture disc is Batushka - Litourgiya. I mean EVIL 079 LP press and it sounds as good as it looks. It's all about how it is pressed and prepared, but ofc vinyl will allways sound better as a standard black disc (especially 180 and 200g version of a disc).
Awesome album dude. Batushka are one of my favourite recent discoveries.
"vinyls" isn't a word
I think it depends on the disc. I have some picture discs that sound bad, and some that sound amazing!
Since we are talking picture discs, my song of the day was from an album first pressed on a picture disc in 1970:
BAND: Curved Air
SONG: "It Happened Today"
From the album Air Conditioning which when first issued as a picture disc it was notorious for its poor sound quality. Second pressings were on conventional black vinyl.
I Finally got my hands on, Nine inch nails "Broken Ep" it comes with a little book and a 45' including a 78' AMAZING!!
Supreme Gamer that sounds so cool!
Excellent info as always!
I bought a picture disc because it was a good deal. 5 bucks. When I took it out of the sleeve it a had a promo sticker stuck directly on the record. I peeled it off cause I intended to listen to it and I couldn’t get all the glue off. Sounds like ass. 5 bucks down the drain.
Aww sorry to hear that. Who the heck puts a sticker directly on the grooves?!
Try the wood glue trick. That should seriously help if not straight up fix it.
hey, i discovered your videos a wile back and that kinda gave me courage to get myself a turntable, of course i love the wood ones so i got myself a pioneer PL-112D and i would like to ask a question, don't know if you have already answered it or not but well, here it comes, if you could choose between an old turntable or a brand new one which would be better? or are they all the same and just the style changes?
I have the Quiet Riot Metal Health Picture Disc LP pressed in 1983, and It still sounds just as good as the regular black vinyl original pressing. I had other picture discs that sounded like crap too though. Excellent topic.
Hey Jarrett! Thanks for the awesome video as always; I'm a big Picture Disc fan no matter what: I have Master of Puppets, the Aces High and Creeping Death singles and Lateralus too!
I would really love if you could do a video about those companies that press exclusive coloured limited edition reissues of big classic records, like Sound On Vinyl and Relapse Records.
Thanks!
Good idea Darío! Glad you liked the video! More good stuff on the way!
Is the quality still better than that of a cd? I want to pick up a few picture discs myself, but i am hesitant towards the quality of it.
I only have one picture disk that I recall. It's Go-Go's single Our lips are sealed/We got the beat.
I just found it in a shop one day, about 2000.
Too bad the vinyl puck couldn't have the picture through out, and spread while pressed. I realize it probably wouldn't work. The end result would be less than perfect.
Newbie here. I have an old hi-fidelity vintage turntable. Is it still good for the new vinyls from 2010+ or do i have to get another turntable/needle?
alien invaders vintage hifi turntables are the best for all records
Listening to my brand new Lateralus album rn
After years of being on the fence. coming across your channel has helped me decide. I'm in. Probably going with LP-120. Your channel has really useful advice, subbed and looking forward to what's ahead.
Welcome to the family, Mark! When you hear the sound they way it's supposed to be reproduced (which you will with the LP-120), you will be hooked, because it sounds like heaven!
Mark Whitfield I’m so glad you’re joining us Mark! You’re starting an incredible journey! 🎵😄🎵
Cheers George, yep can't wait to get started in the next few days.
@@markwhitfield3658 🤘🤘🤘
The LP-120 is still a budget TT, It has noisy motor, muffled treble due to filters on pre-amp board
For me, picture discs are for framing. For listening purposes, plain old vinyl is the way.
Thanks for the info! I bought the Yellow Submarine Picture disk and I thought something was wrong with my record player, because it didn't sound as good as the normal vinyl.
One of my favorite albums (Riverside's Shrine of New Generation Slaves) had a very limited original vinyl release in 2013 and no repressings, which now go for over $100. I'm really not that ready to spend that kind of money on a record, but I recently found out there will be a repressing in January. The problem with that, is the only record available is a double LP picture disc. My setup isn't that good at all, and I'm wondering if it's fine to get a picture disc if my setup is just made up of things I found at a thrift store.
On videos showing your LP-120, I noticed speeds for 33, 45, and 78. Standard 33 is a bit too slow for me because lots of records now have 33 and 1/3 RPM, and they sound so off on 33. Will the LP-120 play 33 1/3? If not, what are the best options for a quality player that has that specific speed? Unless that's a speed slider on the right side of yours...
It says 33 but it’s actually 33 1/3. Also the speed slider on the side helps dial in custom speeds too.
Most tables say 33 ‘cause it looks better, but it is actually 33 1/3.
Awesome! Also, my first heart, thanks!
I've got that Bartman picture disc... :)
I like picture discs, they make for good collectors items and they play well enough for my needs as I don't play records that often, I tend to record them into my media player and listen to them on the go on my smartphone. I also turned two of them into clocks by fitting a cheap quartz clock movement on the back, the spindle hole is just about the right size for this.
I agree with you that picture discs should be for collecting. My personal favorite (and there's unfortunately no regular disc for this one so I have to play the picture disc anyway) is Twenty one pilots's Blurryface Live vinyl. There are 3 picture discs with red and black pictures from shows and it looks absolutely stunning
Cool! 😄👍 Picture Discs look so nice haha
I got the O Brother Where Art Thou? picture disk. I usually steer clear of picture disks but with the blue grass type of music I knew pop sounds wouldn’t bother me, in fact it only adds to that old timey feel. I can’t think of any other situation where i could be okay with it though
I have a few picture discs but don't play them. I first heard a picture disc version of Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon and some other record in my dads record collection about ten years ago and wasn't impressed with the sound. I also collect colored and multi-colored vinyl and play those as well as black vinyl records. Great video!
That Lateralus record is amazing.
It's funny you mention this, because I was JUST on your Tool video and mentioned there that the picture disc sounds terrible. Mine was bad from the start, as soon as I opened it from the shrink. Oh well, it sure does look nice!
I have an album that is only pressed on picture disc and CD. The CD of course sounds great and so does the picture disc. I don't hear the "bad quality" that a lot of vinyl collectors hear when they play their picture discs. Great videos btw!
I got my first one yesterday. Actually sounds great if you don't mind some Rice Crispies. Lots of Rice Crispies. Never heard so much surface noise on a new record or even most of my used stuff and I have cleaned it very thoroughly.
I have 2 Meat Loaf picture discs. Bat Out of Hell and the 1983 12" single of "If You Really Want To", with "Keep Driving" and "Lost Love" on the B-side. However, I also have Bat Out of Hell on a normal black vinyl record (as well as on CD and cassette).
This explains so much. I was wondering why my brand new guardians of the galaxy soundtrack sounded almost distorted/not ideal…It also was pressed my Hollywood records and they’ve been giving me issues with a couple others 🤷🏼♂️
They should just reissue lateralus on 180 gram. Yea the picture disc looks amazingly beautiful I just don’t play much often cause of how well built it is. So for me I have it on a stand a masterpiece to show people and maybe spin every once in a while
They NEED to reissue Aenima, Lateralus, and give us 10,000 days. It would keep vinyl fans content while waiting for new music. Or at least myself.
Just not the same as having a physical piece of music and add in the artwork. No contest, to me. We could argue about sound quality all day. At the end of the day it's all about opinions and preference.
@nmeunier Is that on DVD-A? Just wondering how to find it because it seems awesome
I actually have the whole King Diamond collection on Picture discs (your avatar reminded me of them), they are 180 grams reissue version, and they sound just fine.
I'm quite proud of it!
Like you say , the proper way to use a picturedisc is to hang it on the wall. I , myself have only one. Tubular bells by Mike Oldfield. It looks great above my stereo.
For aligning the cartridge on an lp 120, do I have to use a Stevenson protractor or will Baerwald work just as good?
I’d recommend the Stevenson, it’s worked well for me!
Vinyl Eyezz
Thank you for the reply.
Baerwald works fine for me
Please give us your opinion about sound quality of bluetooth earphones and stuff like that.
Is a picture disk the same thing as laser etching? I have the old Styx Paradise Theater lp with the laser etching on the back.
How do tool do that?
Like there's transparency, how they were able to have transparent parts in between the paper thing?
I have a few but I haven't got a high end system so don't mind the fact that it isn't the best. But can you find out if possible why 12 & 7 inch singles don't have inner sleeves? Thanks if you do find out
Hey Jarrett, does it really matter to get an amplifier for turntable?
Yes, you're going to need some sort of amplification from the turntable. Usually a receiver, or smaller headphone amplifier will work!
Thanks for the head up. Was about to buy that picture disc lateralus. Not anymore
My picture disc 12 inch for Energy by Operation Ivy still sounds great after 5 years of use, not sure if the time period it was made it has anything to do with it but I haven’t experienced any severe problems with it yet.
Great video like always your awesome what's your favorite kiss album.
These really took off in the 80's and some that I have state on the sleeve that it will have inferior sound quality. I never knew why. Now I do. Thank's for the explanation.
Hey Jarrett, what about etched records though? One of my Styx albums has etchings
MusicDiscoveryNet | MDN those don’t affect sound quality at all
Soon I'm gonna order a lilac pink Crosley suitcase record player online from Urban Outfitters like the one you smashed in your video I love it and I want it
Picture discs - the perfect accompaniement to the Crossley Cruiser!
Seriously, you'd probably get better sound quality from one of those flexi discs they used to give away with cereal in the 70s and 80s. They're nice in a frame, though.
Love the Hybrid Theory vinyl in the background
Very helpful thanks just subbed
Will these damage high end MC cartridge? I have this same tool
album
I had Culture Club's "Colour by Numbers" on a picture disc and it sounded great - and the cover art was way cooler than the cover of the non-picture version.
I once saw a guy at a tool concert in missouri with the lateralus paint (to this day i regret not getting a picture with him)primus opened
Very nice video! I have in my collection some picture vinyls and in majority the have bad sound! The one is Lateralus, which is very pity because this album kick ass! Recently I bought Mastodon's Cold Dark Place EP and it sounds great.
I just got the laterlus album I can hear every little imperfection. Is there a way to clean the record and make it bettor? Becouse I can just Not Listen to this album
My pic discs, AIC; The Devil Put Dinosaurs Here & Blade Runner OST. Off topic but I'm new to the scene and got a hold of the Rsd Pink Floyd Pipers mono mix and some of the Beatles mono LP's. Q: would it be best to play via a mono cartridge and which ones would you recommend.
Mono cart is best for mono LPs, I recommend Shure M78S fitted with SC35 stylus, it cancels out some of the crackle, and nothing worse than crackles in stereo on a mono program
I purchased the at-lp120 on your advice.
Awesome dude! You're going to love it!
I read about this a long time ago, and I've certainly noticed a quality difference on some of the picture/artwork modern 7 inches I have.
That Bart record looks great.
Perhaps a stupid question, but is there a difference in sound quality between colored vinyl and normal vinyl?
great video! Now that I know.
Once I was going to buy a Human League album on a picture disc and the manger in the shop told me "oh, don't buy it if you're going to listen to it" He didn't explain why, though.
What about 45 picture rubber mats how do you rank them versus original equipment?
Yet another great video that made my day! :]
Your comment made my day :)
How long before the sound quality started getting worse for your Lateralus PD? And did it start skipping?
Perfectly honest realistic presentation as always. :> Thanks.
Purple Crow - TOH LPC thanks for watching!
I have a whole bunch of Iron Maiden picture discs because for a few years the only LPs available for their later albums were picture discs. Luckily they've all been re-released on 180gram black vinyl since then and I'm slowly replacing the picture discs with those.
Totally agree that the sound quality is inferior but I think they have their place in music history. They're so eye catching and I'd wager that just on their looks alone they have introduced a new person to the hobby, which is awesome :)
I’ve got 1,700 records. None of them are picture discs.
Ooh touch you
So no Lateralus? I’m disappointed
I have a few picture discs. I do it mainly just to collect. I have Purple Rain, EWF's Raise!, And some Disney soundtracks. I do notice the sound is different. Then again I have The NuMark TTUSB and the sound isn't a big difference with regular vinyl
In the 70s I had Sgt Pepper on picture disc and the music sounded terrible. I also had the (Beatles) White album on Capitol white vinyl. That sounded pretty good. My question is does the vinyl have to black for it to sound good?
I have a few picture discs in my collection. I have a copy of Who Are You from the 1978 that doesn't sound too bad, a Won't Get Fooled Again 12" single, the Creeping Death 12" single that isn't too bad either, the Illegal Alien picture disc single from Genesis, and one of the RSD David Bowie singles. The quality I find is fine, I just don't listen to any of them that often though. I have a Technics SL-3300 that I play my records on.
When I was a kid, you could get a premium for pic discs when swapping them with friends. I swapped a def leppard hysteria pic disc for a crappy Meatloaf normal pressing AND a Motley Crue vinyl one... (and the Crue one was their first ever 'leathur records' release... sold it for £200. Worth way more than that now! lol)
I also avoid picture discs whenever possible, I hate getting them when you order a album expecting a regular black or coloured vinyl and you get a picture disc instead. It's happened to me more than once.
Do more cassettes videos!
First video of yours I watched. Subscribed before the intro was even over. Then, saw the metal Jesus Rocks cameo in the "subscribe to this channel" part, hahaha!
I have the same lateralus album and it does indeed crackle a lot. It's also not completely flat so that doesn't help
Question on colored vinyls. Am I crazy or do translucent colored vinyls have more static and blemishes than opaque colored vinyls?
I don't get NASA sent images embedded in the Golden records how did they do it? I get how music and sound are embedded on these record discs but images. How?please tell me
I think of picture discs as a novelty. I have a few in my collection and it's nice to pull them out and play them from time to time. I agree they aren't the best on sound quality. I also would like to suggest the song Crack My Heart by Tonight Alive as song of the day. Take care!
in my opinion, most vinyls are appealing to people for nostalgia or for the art. if you're looking for sound quality, just listen to a digital album. regardless of the crackles and pops of a picture disc, i enjoy how mesmerizing they are when watching the pictures rotate. i feel the same about merge and splatter vinyls.
and maybe i just don't see y'all's problem with them because the only picture disc i have works as well as my normal records.
So how do these compare to the ones that have the laser etching (or however they did it) like Styx Paradise Theater?
what album was that in the intro with the different colored sea creatures?
If my record player has a built in preamp, can I use passive speakers without an amp?
Please help me! - a newbie
Tyler Miller nope
Finally I know the answer! I wonder how bad is the sound from the picture disc (bought this item for the very first time). My friend told me that the sound is pretty the same like other vinyl version, but he was totally wrong..
Dollyrots, "Daydream Explision" album being released July 12th. Song on youTube "In Your Face" cool album cover with vinyl marbeling color.
There will also be CD and digital available. This is Dollyrots 7th album
Tool got into Vinyl and now I sub to your channel. Simple as that.