Wanted to compliment you on your videos. You do an excellent job of editing and your descriptions display a good knowledge of the Southwest and of our native American ancestors. I want to increase your knowledge just a little bit. I heard you use the word grainary today on one of your episodes from three months ago. I have heard this word used on other UA-cam channels, but, there is no such word. The correct word is granary.. I love your videos and hope you continue to bring them to us for a long time to come.
The position of rocks in such a destroyed area I think is subjective. Very interesting site indeed. I would love to have so many conveniently shaped stones to build a new wall where I am. Think about that. Thank you young man. 🥇
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Great observation on viewing the summit between the rocks. I was thinking along the same lines as you near the video end. The area was large, would offer little environment shelter, and had few signs if being a habitation. I think you were right about it being a fall back defensive area
I always enjoy your entire videos, can't choose a favorite part tho the drone footage is always spectacular! Just a note, lichens and moss do tend to grow on the north side but that isn't 100% always the case.
I just found your channel. Have you done any hiking in the Superstition Mountain ? Lots of caves and mines. I like Apache Kid Cave ( Wave Cave ). You might like Flatiron trail. You probably know this only hike in the winter months.
Yes, the size of or a corral, but pioneers did not build corrals on top of hard to access hills or built walls this tall. It is definitely a native site, and from it, about 10 other native sites are visible in the line of sight.
Food for thought: It appears to be a Spanish Fortress, one must remember that here in the southwest that the Old Spanish were here from about 1540 (Coronado's Expedition) to about 1830 or almost 300 years of exploration, mining, etc., they enslaved Indians in mass, War'd against them, built Missions etc., need to study that era, not every ruin is from the Indians. Over the 300 years of the Spanish Invasion, thousands and thousands of Spaniards inhabited this vast region of ALL of the American Southwest Territories when they claimed it for the KING of SPAIN. Originally it all Belonged to MEXICO from California, Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Idaho, Oklahoma, Texas etc., etc.. Geologically, when in BASALT country Look for INTRUSIONS of Quartz, Calcite, GRANITES, METAMORPHIC FORMATIONS. All of these Clues will tell you Great Historic Information. Also, Remember that these other European Cultures, mostly the Spanish also made Earthen Ware (POTTERY) and a wide variety of other IMPLEMENTS fashioned from the local areas. REMEMBER they were Mining mostly for Gold, Silver, Cinnabar and other Minerals and were living in these areas for much of their lifetimes, utilizing anything that was available and much of it Thet LEARNED from the Local Indians. So Ibelieve that you are somewhat right about that Stone Monument but I would look closer than that Mtn. Peak first ! Many of the New UA-camr Explorers like yourself sometimes fail to see or understand the Histories. The Fatal Mistake most of them make is when they see Pottery and assume it to be from the Indians or the Ancients. Great Video ! I really Enjoyed it ! Darrell Lane, (read my book on amazon, The Return of the Giant Serpent).
Thanks! Although Spanish had passed through this area, this is a very remote rugged Arizona area and I I do not believe any signs of Spanish settlement were recorded here. Apache fort from 1800s? It is somewhat similar to the fort that I recorded here, this one definitely was in a very defensive position ua-cam.com/video/A0ezl_r4yrg/v-deo.htmlsi=suoZsVRjL56Bq-ST
@@ruinsandridges You don't understand yet, your not going to find any Documented Documents on these early Spanish other than the Signs and Symbols they left behind. It doesn't matter how remote these old spanish sites are cause when they were here this entire Southwest was "THE FRONTIER". Once you truly get involved with researching and exploring the very thought of the Old Spanish, it's gonna change the way you thought you knew history. Your Young so give it time to let those thoughts to sink in.
Yup, the spanish left alot of stuff here in Sedona, they have found a few pices of spanish armore stashed in the rocks, not going to hike around with all that on, lol. But the spanish did have many maps going way back to the Jesuits first expeditions, and they did make thier marks on some of the native maps carved in rock. You been to VbarV, there is a map pannel of the area going as far as flagstaff, the spanish put thier symbols there too for the conquistadors who came later. As well that suposed lost dutchman map they have down in the valley, um not sure now it's near superstition where they found it, most say its a fake map. But it's not fake, it sends you to this place where I live now in Sedona. Don't think it was gold they were after here, it was mercury that the Aztechs were after I think, my oppinion, lol. But I did find the mine on the map here in Sedona. And the 2 foot trails that run from Pheniox to Flagstaff. That are now I-17 and highway 179. There is also a Zuni fort up on Horse Mesa where they used the Basalt for 2 outer walls, but inside they used only that super sparkly yellow sand stone. It would of looked like it was made of gold at a distance in the bright sun. I counted over 20 rooms up there, and it's invisable on goggle earth. Heck its almost invisable till you walk up on it. Just saying, there was something else going on in here 13,000 years ago YD boundry, with all the megalithic rock carvings, that you have to see from the perspctive of a kiva on House Mountain and have to look at the right time of year, basicly aug to oct, at sunrise or sunset, these people knew how to use shadows to make thier gigantic rock carvings. Anyway erosion is taking its toll on these wonderfull ancient stuff here. But I have a few pics going back 20 years of them. And all of this is on the VbarV map at the south end of highway 179. A whole slew of megalithic rock carvings goin from the VOC all the way up the canyon on highway 89a.
It would take quite some time for that slow growing brush to fill in the inside of that structure. It sure was a lot of labor to gather and stack those stones. What was the structure used for? Maybe to hold horses but there would need to be a water supply close by which it doesn't look like in the video. How about trapping big game maybe?
Yes, we had some rains, but not nearly enough to fill creeks or washes, to be reliant on that water like native Americans did would be extremely difficult.
Since there are no rooms, could be from the Spanish lookout/resting post? Or a place where the Spanish and Natives could trade! Very interesting video! Thanks and stay safe out there!
Well, it could be from the Spanish or from Indigenous folk....but it is a great look-out down into the surrounding area - great for spotting game maybe? The wall does appear to afford protection, but am not convinced that "defensive" was the major concern. My favorite parts - besides the excellent drone footage, were the beautiful still photos. Thanks a bunch!
An interesting site. Stick to the scientific method. Collect your data (observations), formulate your hypothesis and draw conclusions that are supported by data. Keep up the good work!
I don’t understand this site at all. What was it used for? Did they maybe bring mobile homes periodically to the site or was it for ceremony? Very interesting site.
Yes, temporary stick built homes inside the wall is a possibility, although many sites around here are pithomes, so you see some dug out indentations in the ground even if walls were mainly wood. This one did not have any pits that we could see.
No, we see sheep corrals but they are not on the top of difficult to access rocky hills. also, there is not much grass up there, and the walls would not need to be that tall. But thank you for letting me know your thoughts.
This is a Lookout and Storage Unit . So fun.. Good job going there
Wanted to compliment you on your videos. You do an excellent job of editing and your descriptions display a good knowledge of the Southwest and of our native American ancestors. I want to increase your knowledge just a little bit. I heard you use the word grainary today on one of your episodes from three months ago. I have heard this word used on other UA-cam channels, but, there is no such word. The correct word is granary.. I love your videos and hope you continue to bring them to us for a long time to come.
How interesting! I love my Saturday mornings in California waking up to a Ruins and Ridges video! thank you for brightening my day I love the desert
Thank you very much!
Great job! I appreciate your curiosity and sense of adventure, and thank you for taking us all along !
Thank you very much!
Wow that site looks big. Nice video! Happy exploring!
Thank you!
There was most likely an irrigation system at the castle, near the river.
Thank you, it could be.
I believe it’s a placed rock too, it lines up too much.
A fascinating enigma. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! 🙂
@@ruinsandridges you are so welcome! You continually impress me with your videos!
The position of rocks in such a destroyed area I think is subjective. Very interesting site indeed.
I would love to have so many conveniently shaped stones to build a new wall where I am.
Think about that.
Thank you young man. 🥇
Que lugar incrível, é como fazer uma viagem de volta no tempo.... seus vídeos transmitem uma sensação de paz . Gostei muito do vídeo! A trilha sonora é linda ...
Thank you! 😊
I like to see the lithic debris. Glad you found a piece, at least.
Great observation on viewing the summit between the rocks. I was thinking along the same lines as you near the video end. The area was large, would offer little environment shelter, and had few signs if being a habitation. I think you were right about it being a fall back defensive area
Yes. Thank you!
I always enjoy your entire videos, can't choose a favorite part tho the drone footage is always spectacular! Just a note, lichens and moss do tend to grow on the north side but that isn't 100% always the case.
Could it be a tribal gathering place? We have places like that in Ireland.
Thanks for the great views and clear explanations
Thank yo for watching!
I just found your channel. Have you done any hiking in the Superstition Mountain ? Lots of caves and mines. I like Apache Kid Cave ( Wave Cave ). You might like Flatiron trail. You probably know this only hike in the winter months.
Yes, definitely there are many great hikes and places there, just need to wait until winter time. 😊
You would think you would find arrowheads around defensive positions
Yes, we do not find many, had spotted only a couple.
That’s a lot of rocks they had to carry. Very interesting, great video.
Yes, massive building effort.
Yes Love those Google Earth Vids!
Thank you!
@@ruinsandridges Anytime!!
It almost looks like it could be a corral
Yes, the size of or a corral, but pioneers did not build corrals on top of hard to access hills or built walls this tall. It is definitely a native site, and from it, about 10 other native sites are visible in the line of sight.
No water, no animals
Food for thought: It appears to be a Spanish Fortress, one must remember that here in the southwest that the Old Spanish were here from about 1540 (Coronado's Expedition) to about 1830 or almost 300 years of exploration, mining, etc., they enslaved Indians in mass, War'd against them, built Missions etc., need to study that era, not every ruin is from the Indians. Over the 300 years of the Spanish Invasion, thousands and thousands of Spaniards inhabited this vast region of ALL of the American Southwest Territories when they claimed it for the KING of SPAIN. Originally it all Belonged to MEXICO from California, Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Idaho, Oklahoma, Texas etc., etc.. Geologically, when in BASALT country Look for INTRUSIONS of Quartz, Calcite, GRANITES, METAMORPHIC FORMATIONS. All of these Clues will tell you Great Historic Information. Also, Remember that these other European Cultures, mostly the Spanish also made Earthen Ware (POTTERY) and a wide variety of other IMPLEMENTS fashioned from the local areas. REMEMBER they were Mining mostly for Gold, Silver, Cinnabar and other Minerals and were living in these areas for much of their lifetimes, utilizing anything that was available and much of it Thet LEARNED from the Local Indians. So Ibelieve that you are somewhat right about that Stone Monument but I would look closer than that Mtn. Peak first ! Many of the New UA-camr Explorers like yourself sometimes fail to see or understand the Histories. The Fatal Mistake most of them make is when they see Pottery and assume it to be from the Indians or the Ancients. Great Video ! I really Enjoyed it ! Darrell Lane, (read my book on amazon, The Return of the Giant Serpent).
Thanks! Although Spanish had passed through this area, this is a very remote rugged Arizona area and I I do not believe any signs of Spanish settlement were recorded here. Apache fort from 1800s? It is somewhat similar to the fort that I recorded here, this one definitely was in a very defensive position
ua-cam.com/video/A0ezl_r4yrg/v-deo.htmlsi=suoZsVRjL56Bq-ST
@@ruinsandridges You don't understand yet, your not going to find any Documented Documents on these early Spanish other than the Signs and Symbols they left behind. It doesn't matter how remote these old spanish sites are cause when they were here this entire Southwest was "THE FRONTIER". Once you truly get involved with researching and exploring the very thought of the Old Spanish, it's gonna change the way you thought you knew history. Your Young so give it time to let those thoughts to sink in.
Yup, the spanish left alot of stuff here in Sedona, they have found a few pices of spanish armore stashed in the rocks, not going to hike around with all that on, lol. But the spanish did have many maps going way back to the Jesuits first expeditions, and they did make thier marks on some of the native maps carved in rock. You been to VbarV, there is a map pannel of the area going as far as flagstaff, the spanish put thier symbols there too for the conquistadors who came later. As well that suposed lost dutchman map they have down in the valley, um not sure now it's near superstition where they found it, most say its a fake map. But it's not fake, it sends you to this place where I live now in Sedona. Don't think it was gold they were after here, it was mercury that the Aztechs were after I think, my oppinion, lol. But I did find the mine on the map here in Sedona. And the 2 foot trails that run from Pheniox to Flagstaff. That are now I-17 and highway 179. There is also a Zuni fort up on Horse Mesa where they used the Basalt for 2 outer walls, but inside they used only that super sparkly yellow sand stone. It would of looked like it was made of gold at a distance in the bright sun. I counted over 20 rooms up there, and it's invisable on goggle earth. Heck its almost invisable till you walk up on it. Just saying, there was something else going on in here 13,000 years ago YD boundry, with all the megalithic rock carvings, that you have to see from the perspctive of a kiva on House Mountain and have to look at the right time of year, basicly aug to oct, at sunrise or sunset, these people knew how to use shadows to make thier gigantic rock carvings. Anyway erosion is taking its toll on these wonderfull ancient stuff here. But I have a few pics going back 20 years of them. And all of this is on the VbarV map at the south end of highway 179. A whole slew of megalithic rock carvings goin from the VOC all the way up the canyon on highway 89a.
It would take quite some time for that slow growing brush to fill in the inside of that structure. It sure was a lot of labor to gather and stack those stones. What was the structure used for? Maybe to hold horses but there would need to be a water supply close by which it doesn't look like in the video. How about trapping big game maybe?
Thank you. yes, not much water around, just a few washes that fill up infrequently.
It’s greener you must be in Arizona from the monsoons , here in California. It is brown brown brown.
Yes, we had some rains, but not nearly enough to fill creeks or washes, to be reliant on that water like native Americans did would be extremely difficult.
Since there are no rooms, could be from the Spanish lookout/resting post?
Or a place where the Spanish and Natives could trade!
Very interesting video!
Thanks and stay safe out there!
Trade is an interesting thought. From this site many native sites are visible.
Well, it could be from the Spanish or from Indigenous folk....but it is a great look-out down into the surrounding area - great for spotting game maybe? The wall does appear to afford protection, but am not convinced that "defensive" was the major concern. My favorite parts - besides the excellent drone footage, were the beautiful still photos. Thanks a bunch!
Thank you for watching!
An interesting site. Stick to the scientific method. Collect your data (observations), formulate your hypothesis and draw conclusions that are supported by data. Keep up the good work!
Thank you very much!
My man in his math effort good job. Have a great weekend.
Thank you!
I don’t understand this site at all. What was it used for? Did they maybe bring mobile homes periodically to the site or was it for ceremony? Very interesting site.
Yes, temporary stick built homes inside the wall is a possibility, although many sites around here are pithomes, so you see some dug out indentations in the ground even if walls were mainly wood. This one did not have any pits that we could see.
Those are some long legs made for hiking
Looks like an old sheep corral 🐑
No, we see sheep corrals but they are not on the top of difficult to access rocky hills.
also, there is not much grass up there, and the walls would not need to be that tall. But thank you for letting me know your thoughts.
Looks defensive. I do like the theory that these forts could be winter sites as well with sun exposure. Maybe winter defensive?
Yes, lots of sun exposure.
I think it might be Spanish. Maybe the land owner knows some history on it...😅 if it is you could metal detect
Not a private land