This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.
Have always done single dose grinding.. most flexible and freshest option. I just don't want to have beans sitting in the hopper going stale or limiting my options to switch coffees. I don't have a single dose grinder, just grind for slightly longer than needed to grind the weighed beans and this ensures minimal retention. You can do this with any on-demand grinder. Not convinced that the single dose/bellows grinders thing is really worth it.
After a Baratza I bought a second hand Mählkönig K30 Vario, over ten years ago. After 11 000 double shots it’s still wonderfully fast and quiet. Just 4 sec for 18 grams of coffee. And a bargain at 400$.
The number one issue with hopper style grinders is that the hopper itself is neither airtight or vacuum, so keeping your whole coffee in there would make the beans lose everything super fast!!
The SSP makes the Mazzer Mini-E faster, has better grind uniformity, and last longer. Although the main reason for the upgrade is the grind uniformity. We are doing a video soon with a guest on the differences in grinder blades.
@@CoffeePartsTV thanks for the reply. Problem with my mini electronic B was it grind way too slow that I turn the dial all the way to the right and still can't produce me 17g of grind. After I made that comment I did a bit of research and now considering upgrade to the super jolly burrs. The ssp is too expensive for me as it is for the 2nd grinder (decaf) of my cafe.
@@christc0409 That sounds about right when it comes to the older pre-2015 Electronic B model that you have, but I don’t think that burrs are the problem.
I've been running a Silenzio set up for single dose (aliexpress alloy hopper and silicone bellows), it's very low retention and very, very consistent. I weigh in 19.2/19.3g into a dosing cup on my scales, get out the same 95% of the time, weight and cut to 19g that tips into portafilter with dosing ring. I'm thinking of going to a hopper-based grinder with 60 or 65mm burrs (rg Atom or Mignon XL), easier-going with the hopper and bigger burrs, straight into the portafilter.
Hi Pedro, What is "O.G."? Also, to my disappointment, I discovered on opening yesterday, my brand new Mahlkonig X54 is NOT made in Germany. I will be returning it to the vendor. Might it be possible that future reviews mention the country of manufacture? It is part of my decision making and I don't think I am alone on this.
Good question! On paper similar. I'm not a fan of dosage control down low as generally not as user friendly. However, how the actual grinders compares is hard to answer as I haven't personally used one. In the future may get one so can feel it out and do a review, but until then don't feel I can compare fairly.
Haven't used the Ceado E37s, yet in saying that Ceado make awesome grinders in general. With the Eureka Atom 75, personally I don't like the larger grinders for home use as naturally they always have larger amounts of retention due to the larger burrs, and need more coffee in the hopper to reduce pop-corning than smaller grinders, so from a workflow not ideal... Yet, may do a super top 5 home coffee grinders video: EK43s etc and cover workflow difference.
@@CoffeePartsTV Thank you. I am going nuts with choosing a grinder and decided to go with Mahlkoenig E65S GBW. 🤦♂️🤷♂️ I will probably need to dump 2-4g daily, but…
I know it's a late answer, but, the Eureka atom is definitely more of a home grinder than the helios/mito is. It is quieter but comparable in speed however (around 2 seconds for 18 grams with the 75 mm burrs). I personally use the obel mito because i like the looks of that machine more than the eurekas. If you however want to single dose, then you should go for the atom. You can do it with the former machines (i do it with the obel, getting between 0.1-0.3 grams retention) but they are definitely meant for use with the hopper I have the obel personally
I'm just starting out and have bought a mazer Luigi srl on the second hand market... the goind is great (after taking almost 250g of coffee to get it right!!) but I'm wondering if in the long run a grind on demand will be better for me at home (at around 4-5 cups a day for the household?)
Hey there... searched the whole of internet and found only your video covering both grinders that interest me... How would your rate grind quality X54 versus Faustino? Both are equal in price in my country. More of an espresso based daily use for me.
I have the new Mazzer Mini Electronic A. Curious to see you get 20g in 11s as I’m getting 18-20g in 16.6s. Really variable in output one dose to the next for the time setting.
Thinking about it he must have the Super Jolly burrs fitted. I've never got anything like 20g in 11s with the standard burrs. Unless Mazzer have recently modified the standard Mini burrs.
I am new to the home grinder idea. Would I really notice a difference between one grinder and another in the taste of the coffee? Would a retention of 2 grams make a big flavour difference?
Not at all, As long as your grinder is consistent with its grind and particle size your coffee should always taste great, remembering this is only one part of the process (Beans, Tamping and then coffee machine) all factor in on a great cup
These grinders just grind, they don't know the weight, yet the have a timer function. Once you have dialed int he grind adjustment, you want to grind x amount of coffee. I generally go for 20g, so then I dial in the grind time to get it close to 20g every grind. This will change tho as you redial in the grind, yet does make it easier to get it pretty close.
You must have received a dud… I never have to clean my station and I removed the bellows because I’m getting zero retention every single time. Luck of the draw I guess.
I have Eureka Specialita, it really shines when you have guests and making multiple espresso drinks, it speeds up the workflow and I really apreciate not having to weigh each dose, its very accurate and I can trust it. But I m thorn a bit, I ve started drinking decaf so i swich coffees each day, thats the part where I m wondering if I should get Niche zero? I cant really replicate dialed in coffee shot going back and forth, so my work around is to dial in regular coffee, so decaf, since it mainly goes with milk, just goes at the same grind setting.
Mate, please do not edit in shots of just your head and no grinder. It is a waste of video man. Only shots of the grinders... feel free to sneak in but NEVER just shots of your pretty face talking. It wastes our time. Cheers!
It is better suited for drip coffee. It's easy to use and to buy. EK43 has higher attraction, and is better for Espresso coffees the 54-gearing is made of mostly plastic parts has lower attraction compared to the EK the 54 is not made to last? hugs wheelchair larry
I like the X54 because I use it for both espresso and filter coffee. It is really easy to adjust the burr. Easy to clean and very quiet too.
يوريكا XL65+سنقل دوزر 65 كلاهما الافضل والاكثر شيوعاً و استخداماً في الخليج 👍🏼شكراً لك على المراجعة 🙋🏻♂️
probably grind on demand. simpler, less fuss. easier. I appreciate your explanation between the two.
Welcome :)
This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.
Have always done single dose grinding.. most flexible and freshest option. I just don't want to have beans sitting in the hopper going stale or limiting my options to switch coffees. I don't have a single dose grinder, just grind for slightly longer than needed to grind the weighed beans and this ensures minimal retention. You can do this with any on-demand grinder. Not convinced that the single dose/bellows grinders thing is really worth it.
After a Baratza I bought a second hand Mählkönig K30 Vario, over ten years ago. After 11 000 double shots it’s still wonderfully fast and quiet. Just 4 sec for 18 grams of coffee. And a bargain at 400$.
how did you get a 1700 $ girnder for 400 bucks
@@KingMinosxxvi it had two scratches and was Used in a café.
@@fredericl6190 still ...great deal dude
I have the 3D printed single dosing mod for X54. Really happy with the grinder.
Ohhh nice!
x54 is cool, under-rated, just a little slow but for a home environment no issue being slow :)
Can't wait for those single dose grinders comparisons
Coming soon :)
hi. thanks for for your very good video. my question is, witch single dose is best under 1000 $ ?
The number one issue with hopper style grinders is that the hopper itself is neither airtight or vacuum, so keeping your whole coffee in there would make the beans lose everything super fast!!
Great channel , been incredibly helpful with decision making on my new home setup , thanks
Thank you! fantastic to hear :)
I’ve the slightly newer Mazzer Mini Electronic B, just recently upgraded with SSP HU burrs. I love this grinder, wouldn’t change it for anything 🙂
hey I have the same grinder, can you tell me the difference with ssp burrs?
The SSP makes the Mazzer Mini-E faster, has better grind uniformity, and last longer. Although the main reason for the upgrade is the grind uniformity. We are doing a video soon with a guest on the differences in grinder blades.
@@CoffeePartsTV thanks for the reply. Problem with my mini electronic B was it grind way too slow that I turn the dial all the way to the right and still can't produce me 17g of grind. After I made that comment I did a bit of research and now considering upgrade to the super jolly burrs. The ssp is too expensive for me as it is for the 2nd grinder (decaf) of my cafe.
@@christc0409 That sounds about right when it comes to the older pre-2015 Electronic B model that you have, but I don’t think that burrs are the problem.
@@Jaroslav. nah my one was brand one the latest version. I read that changing the burrs do make them grind faster?
I've been running a Silenzio set up for single dose (aliexpress alloy hopper and silicone bellows), it's very low retention and very, very consistent. I weigh in 19.2/19.3g into a dosing cup on my scales, get out the same 95% of the time, weight and cut to 19g that tips into portafilter with dosing ring. I'm thinking of going to a hopper-based grinder with 60 or 65mm burrs (rg Atom or Mignon XL), easier-going with the hopper and bigger burrs, straight into the portafilter.
Hi Pedro, What is "O.G."? Also, to my disappointment, I discovered on opening yesterday, my brand new Mahlkonig X54 is NOT made in Germany. I will be returning it to the vendor. Might it be possible that future reviews mention the country of manufacture? It is part of my decision making and I don't think I am alone on this.
Where was it made?
Great video; thank you! How would the ECM V-Titan 64 compare to the Eureka Mignon XL?
Good question! On paper similar.
I'm not a fan of dosage control down low as generally not as user friendly.
However, how the actual grinders compares is hard to answer as I haven't personally used one.
In the future may get one so can feel it out and do a review, but until then don't feel I can compare fairly.
Hi, thanks for the video. Can i know where did you get your portafilter done?
The portafilter handle was made for me by Pullman in Australia.
pullman.coffee/our-products/custom-engraving
what would you choose between the mazzer mini and the all ground?
I know you had to somehow close the range of grinders to assess, but wondered if you had any experience with Ceado E37s and Eureka Atom 75?
Haven't used the Ceado E37s, yet in saying that Ceado make awesome grinders in general.
With the Eureka Atom 75, personally I don't like the larger grinders for home use as naturally they always have larger amounts of retention due to the larger burrs, and need more coffee in the hopper to reduce pop-corning than smaller grinders, so from a workflow not ideal...
Yet, may do a super top 5 home coffee grinders video: EK43s etc and cover workflow difference.
@@CoffeePartsTV Thank you. I am going nuts with choosing a grinder and decided to go with Mahlkoenig E65S GBW. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
I will probably need to dump 2-4g daily, but…
I consider three grinders. I want your opinion which one to choose. Eureka Atom, Eureka Helios and Obel Mito
I know it's a late answer, but, the Eureka atom is definitely more of a home grinder than the helios/mito is. It is quieter but comparable in speed however (around 2 seconds for 18 grams with the 75 mm burrs).
I personally use the obel mito because i like the looks of that machine more than the eurekas.
If you however want to single dose, then you should go for the atom. You can do it with the former machines (i do it with the obel, getting between 0.1-0.3 grams retention) but they are definitely meant for use with the hopper
I have the obel personally
I'm just starting out and have bought a mazer Luigi srl on the second hand market... the goind is great (after taking almost 250g of coffee to get it right!!) but I'm wondering if in the long run a grind on demand will be better for me at home (at around 4-5 cups a day for the household?)
Hey there... searched the whole of internet and found only your video covering both grinders that interest me...
How would your rate grind quality X54 versus Faustino? Both are equal in price in my country. More of an espresso based daily use for me.
I have the new Mazzer Mini Electronic A. Curious to see you get 20g in 11s as I’m getting 18-20g in 16.6s. Really variable in output one dose to the next for the time setting.
Same here
Thinking about it he must have the Super Jolly burrs fitted. I've never got anything like 20g in 11s with the standard burrs. Unless Mazzer have recently modified the standard Mini burrs.
I have a cmap2 find it better than the sunbeam cafe series
The second grinder is not Sanremo.....it's originally Fiorenzato
In the San Remo branding, but yes, manufactured by Fiorenzato.
Pretty crap that you need to turn off the Eureka Single dose. There shahid be a timer option (dial at the rear etc, or auto turn off).
I am new to the home grinder idea. Would I really notice a difference between one grinder and another in the taste of the coffee? Would a retention of 2 grams make a big flavour difference?
Not at all, As long as your grinder is consistent with its grind and particle size your coffee should always taste great, remembering this is only one part of the process (Beans, Tamping and then coffee machine) all factor in on a great cup
Is ceado e37z hero not making into top 5?
I dont think that is quite is the same price bracket as these :)
On demand!
Sorry Pedro, this may be a silly question. Why do younneed to set the time for the grinder to dispense 20grams?
These grinders just grind, they don't know the weight, yet the have a timer function.
Once you have dialed int he grind adjustment, you want to grind x amount of coffee.
I generally go for 20g, so then I dial in the grind time to get it close to 20g every grind.
This will change tho as you redial in the grind, yet does make it easier to get it pretty close.
@@CoffeePartsTV ok so you do not enter 20g into the grinder to get 20g but enter the time you calculated it will take to dispense 20G?
i still cant take how messy the eureka single does can be lol
You must have received a dud… I never have to clean my station and I removed the bellows because I’m getting zero retention every single time. Luck of the draw I guess.
how about Fiorenzato f4e?
When we get our hands on one - We will let you know :)
I have Eureka Specialita, it really shines when you have guests and making multiple espresso drinks, it speeds up the workflow and I really apreciate not having to weigh each dose, its very accurate and I can trust it. But I m thorn a bit, I ve started drinking decaf so i swich coffees each day, thats the part where I m wondering if I should get Niche zero? I cant really replicate dialed in coffee shot going back and forth, so my work around is to dial in regular coffee, so decaf, since it mainly goes with milk, just goes at the same grind setting.
No measuring when you have bean tubes all ready to go!!
@@MrJusmobile i saw people more and more using it, hats a great work around
WTF is "OG"?
FAG is the worst grinder I've ever used. Red speed burrs are ok, but thats all.
Werent you supposed to have the ZERO NICHE in this review ?
Mate, please do not edit in shots of just your head and no grinder. It is a waste of video man. Only shots of the grinders... feel free to sneak in but NEVER just shots of your pretty face talking. It wastes our time. Cheers!
It is better suited for drip coffee. It's easy to use and to buy. EK43 has higher attraction, and is better for Espresso coffees
the 54-gearing is made of mostly plastic parts has lower attraction compared to the EK the 54 is not made to last? hugs wheelchair larry
Top ten please butiq coffee shop grinder? Maybe simonelli mdx on demand maybe macap maybe Malkönig maybe amfim, maybe vs vs vs please model name