Glad to see non conventional rotary aircraft becoming more mainstream. Osprey for example has been a great success. The Defiant will be a great leap forward leveraging that pusher prop.
Looks like a great aircraft. As a former Blackhawk mechanic, I look at those rotors with great exasperation. lol. They look like a nightmare to work on.
Sorry but the v280 is no where near as good as this platform and the Defiant & Raider are more true to form helo's and the x2 technology provides handling characteristics and agility that the valor just doesn't have and while the v280 is very good (especially in high speed horizontal flight) I don't think it's as good a fit for the army's needs because of the performance x2 technology gives you on approach to a target , on the "X" as they say and during departure from a target.
Maybe all this sales pitch is true. But it's complicated. It'll require new skills to maintain, and will have new technical problems - remember the Osprey's sudden, catastrophic stalls and crashes? Only one group of people know a whole lot about coaxial-rotor helicopters and have used them extensively in the field: the Russians. And they're not going to give us any help.
New skills? Not exactly, the design is relatively simple and elegant. Should be quite easy for the army to train aviation mechanics on the drive system. The new engine design is more of an unknown, because they haven't finished developing it yet.
@@randomman057 But what are the specific weak spots, the ones you only find out by experience? Problems like the Osprey's. Or maybe one bearing that wears out faster or has lubrication problems - and the mechanics need to develop field fixes. With a new conventional helicopter, you might have some good guesses ahead of time. With this, you don't.
@@Baribrotzer Coaxial rotors aren't that complex of a design, certainly not as complex as a tiltrotor. Mechanically, coaxials are not much more complicated than traditional helicopter design.
@@randomman057 True, the gearbox isn't that much more complicated. What about the control system, though - the swash plate(s) and linkages to control the blade angles? Look at a picture of a Kamov, where the whole mechanism is exposed along that three-foot tall mast holding the upper rotor above the lower rotor. And remember, that was designed by RUSSIANS - who don't do anything complicated if they can do it simple. There's an awful lot of parts that could get hit by something or get dirt in the bearings.
@@Baribrotzer no more exposed than the mechanisms on plenty of other helicopters the US military uses. There's a video with one of the test pilots who briefly describes the mechanism for the top rotor. If I remember correctly, the controls for it are integrated into the shaft which drives the bottom rotor. Obviously more complex in some ways, but I do believe it was done so they could better protect those critical components.
Us going ka jo define helicopter se Panch sankhya mein aur double rotate ka do Jo double rocket ka jo tu wing helicopter mein kharide aur jo uske sath sath jo hai jo chinhon ke istemal kar raha hai Vaisa acchi Naukari kam se kam abhi aur 6:00 se ya to 10 aur kharide Aise Aise helicopter Bharat mein abhi bhi aur jarurat hai aur Bharat ko ismein advance technology ka istemal Karne Se Jyada Se Jyada knowledge aur uske bare mein Jankari aur muhaiya karvaega uske sath sath vyavastha vicharon chaupad Hoga yah Jo boring ka jo helicopter Hai double rotate hai advance helicopter ismein jitne bhi hightake Technology ka istemal ho aisa bhi istemal Karen aur usko Jankari lene ka hai Technology ka advance lene ka bhi bahut faydemand hai iska लेन-देन Bhale hi do Paisa Lage lekin usmein bahut Sare knowledge De jata hai aur लेन-देन bhi De Jata Hai isase lenden bhi padega uske sath sath do Paisa lagega Lekin uske sath sath Kafi knowledge Jo bahut ekattha karne mein der Lage usko bahut Tej Gati se use knowledge Ko Bhi ekattha Kiya Ja sakta hai uske साथ-साथ Ek 35 Jo Viman hai ya to Raftar Viman hai iska bhi Sauda Karen 15 20 ya 30 ke sankhya Mein Raftar Viman jo hai kam se kam 50 ho ya to Jo F1 ka 18 Viman jo hai 18 usko Bhi Jyada sankhya Mein America se mangwane ka koshish karen lekin advance technology wala Abhiman Jo app 35 ho aur Raftar Ho is donon vimanon Mein kam se kam 10 ya 15 ke sankhya Mein Bharat mein Jarur Laya to 30 bhi La sakte hain Aisa vyavastha aur uske साथ-साथ Bharat mein jo Banega Aane Wale Samay Mein Uska Bhi jarurat hai lekin abhi filhal mein temperature Ke Sath Jo advance technology ekadam filhal ka filhal jarurat hai usko ekadam muhaiya karvana bahut jaruri hai bahut jaruri hai Jaise Rus Ka Sukh dekhiae Bharat ko chahie advance technology ka Hathiyar jo jo abhi launch Kisi Niche Se Bahar Karke usko giraya Na Ja sake Aisa Hathiyar ka bahut jaruri hai Nahin to Abhi ka yuddh mein theek Pana bahut jaruri hai isliye advance Soch rakhen Hitech Technology ka advance vetan bahut jaruri hai iske liye aapko chahie 35 Viman aur app 22 Raftar yah doctor Viman jo hai 20-30 ke sankhya Mein donon vimanon ko Sauda Karen Uske Sath Sath Hain Jo Viman Hai vah Bhi Agar 50000 to Jyada 50 60 ka sankhya mein le sake to usko bhi le aur Bharat ke sath Technology transform bhi aur Bharat ka Niyam Neta ke sath Bharat Ek Bada majbut sthiti Mein a Jaaye America ko bhi dene Mein Koi nuksan Nahin Hai Bharat Agar America ke sath regular banaa rahata hai to Prashant Mahasagar Mein Prashan Kshetra Mein jitne bhi Indian ocean Kshetra Mein America Ko Bhi बहुत-बहुत majbuti Milega aur uske sath sath Bharat Ko Bhi majbuti Milega isase Indonesia Ho uske sath Malaysia aur uske sath South Africa Bharat ko majbut karne se aane wale Samay Mein hamare pass Hathiyar Rahega to Japan ko bhi majbur majbuti diya Ja sakta hai Taiwan ko bhi majbuti diya Ja sakta hai aise tarike Se Jyada Se Jyada Bharat ko Hathiyar Dene Ka koshish karen Pentagon se darkhast hai ki hamara Bharat ke Taraf Jyada Se Jyada chhupkar aapko Koi nuksan Nahin Hoga lekin Bharat ko Jyada Se Jyada majbut karna bahut jaruri hai Aane Wale Samay Mein a raha tha USA Ek Sath Milkar bahut majbuti ke sath Kadam uthane ka bahut jaruri hai is China ke China aur Russia aur UK Uttar Koriya ka jo Anda hai jo बार-बार America aur Bharat Aise deshon ke Dara raha hai Jin log acche Manavta ke liye Chalna Chahta Hai Aise dusre Manavta ko bachane ke liye Bharat ko Har mom ke majbut karna bahut jaruri hai yah Jaise shrilanka ko shoshan kar raha hai aise Dakshin America Desh Peru ko bhi Bachana Hai Aise Mein Charon or Bharat ko majbut Karen aur China ka Pankh Kata kaatne ka vyavastha Karen jakar vyavastha Aage Tak badhega aur aage bahut Kamyab milane Ka Asar Rahega yah Har Mumkin Bharat ke sath acche aur Bade deal Karen Jo Jo Bhi Bada Technology Hai Uska लेन-देन Ka Bhi Koi आता-जाता Fark Nahin Padta uska Bharat ko Dene Ka koshish karen Aane Wale technology to Badalta Rahega lekin ek majbut Sathi pure Vishva ke andar America Ka Hona Ek bahut Jaruri Kadam uthane ka barabar hota hai isliye Bharat ko Har Bam Ke Na Apne Sath Rakhe aur Apna majbuti Karan aur Bharat ka majbuti Karan pure Vishva Manavta ke liye bahut jaruri hai Pentagon yah samajhdari se kam Karen aur Bharat Ke Liye Har mom ke jitne bhi hightake Technology ka helicopter Hai 2006 sankhya Mein uske sath Milana chahie aur uske sath sath Jo high Technology
Good to see Defiant X coming along. I've said it before but I really prefer this design compared to the V-280 primarily due to the relative size of both aircraft compared to the Balckhawk and the capabilites that rear prop offers.
Did he say “I wish someone would disconnect but they keep pushing their prop hard forward inside? The thrust is painful and I just wish they would stop thrusting.”
This certainly seems like a better choice for a Blackhawk replacement if we intend to keep the fighting air cav tactics like the Vietnam era picture highlighted. If we need to land more distant becasue of tech changes then maybe the V280 is a good choice. It seems to depend on our choice of tactics imo.
You're not giving up range and speed. The pusher prop still offers that with positive forward thrust. But it can also reverse the blade pitch and decelerate the helicopter quickly, something a regular helicopter can not do.
I keep having to say this - please keep the camera within the frame of the person talking and then NOT wearing a face mask since as a black person I am not able to understand what the guy is saying. We are relying on lip reading
Are you joking or something? They're trying to show off the model and the mockup and as attractive as Bill Fell's tie is I'm not watching the video to see that. Also what does being black have to do with understanding english? I'm black and I understood him perfectly not to mention the subtitles you could have turned on. Please try to consider others before making personal requests on a public video.
Glad to see non conventional rotary aircraft becoming more mainstream. Osprey for example has been a great success. The Defiant will be a great leap forward leveraging that pusher prop.
Looks like a great aircraft. As a former Blackhawk mechanic, I look at those rotors with great exasperation. lol. They look like a nightmare to work on.
Just bring back the uh1 bell to complicated
Amazing aircraft, Sikorsky should have won the FLRAA contract. It’s always about politics.
Sorry but the v280 is no where near as good as this platform and the Defiant & Raider are more true to form helo's and the x2 technology provides handling characteristics and agility that the valor just doesn't have and while the v280 is very good (especially in high speed horizontal flight) I don't think it's as good a fit for the army's needs because of the performance x2 technology gives you on approach to a target , on the "X" as they say and during departure from a target.
Do we really trust todays Boeing to do much more than build sporty models to influence stock prices?
Maybe all this sales pitch is true.
But it's complicated. It'll require new skills to maintain, and will have new technical problems - remember the Osprey's sudden, catastrophic stalls and crashes? Only one group of people know a whole lot about coaxial-rotor helicopters and have used them extensively in the field: the Russians. And they're not going to give us any help.
New skills? Not exactly, the design is relatively simple and elegant. Should be quite easy for the army to train aviation mechanics on the drive system. The new engine design is more of an unknown, because they haven't finished developing it yet.
@@randomman057 But what are the specific weak spots, the ones you only find out by experience? Problems like the Osprey's. Or maybe one bearing that wears out faster or has lubrication problems - and the mechanics need to develop field fixes. With a new conventional helicopter, you might have some good guesses ahead of time. With this, you don't.
@@Baribrotzer Coaxial rotors aren't that complex of a design, certainly not as complex as a tiltrotor. Mechanically, coaxials are not much more complicated than traditional helicopter design.
@@randomman057 True, the gearbox isn't that much more complicated.
What about the control system, though - the swash plate(s) and linkages to control the blade angles? Look at a picture of a Kamov, where the whole mechanism is exposed along that three-foot tall mast holding the upper rotor above the lower rotor. And remember, that was designed by RUSSIANS - who don't do anything complicated if they can do it simple. There's an awful lot of parts that could get hit by something or get dirt in the bearings.
@@Baribrotzer no more exposed than the mechanisms on plenty of other helicopters the US military uses. There's a video with one of the test pilots who briefly describes the mechanism for the top rotor. If I remember correctly, the controls for it are integrated into the shaft which drives the bottom rotor. Obviously more complex in some ways, but I do believe it was done so they could better protect those critical components.
It has a very impressive features control console, and comfortable pilot seats.
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Us going ka jo define helicopter se Panch sankhya mein aur double rotate ka do Jo double rocket ka jo tu wing helicopter mein kharide aur jo uske sath sath jo hai jo chinhon ke istemal kar raha hai Vaisa acchi Naukari kam se kam abhi aur 6:00 se ya to 10 aur kharide Aise Aise helicopter Bharat mein abhi bhi aur jarurat hai aur Bharat ko ismein advance technology ka istemal Karne Se Jyada Se Jyada knowledge aur uske bare mein Jankari aur muhaiya karvaega uske sath sath vyavastha vicharon chaupad Hoga yah Jo boring ka jo helicopter Hai double rotate hai advance helicopter ismein jitne bhi hightake Technology ka istemal ho aisa bhi istemal Karen aur usko Jankari lene ka hai Technology ka advance lene ka bhi bahut faydemand hai iska लेन-देन Bhale hi do Paisa Lage lekin usmein bahut Sare knowledge De jata hai aur लेन-देन bhi De Jata Hai isase lenden bhi padega uske sath sath do Paisa lagega Lekin uske sath sath Kafi knowledge Jo bahut ekattha karne mein der Lage usko bahut Tej Gati se use knowledge Ko Bhi ekattha Kiya Ja sakta hai uske साथ-साथ Ek 35 Jo Viman hai ya to Raftar Viman hai iska bhi Sauda Karen 15 20 ya 30 ke sankhya Mein Raftar Viman jo hai kam se kam 50 ho ya to Jo F1 ka 18 Viman jo hai 18 usko Bhi Jyada sankhya Mein America se mangwane ka koshish karen lekin advance technology wala Abhiman Jo app 35 ho aur Raftar Ho is donon vimanon Mein kam se kam 10 ya 15 ke sankhya Mein Bharat mein Jarur Laya to 30 bhi La sakte hain Aisa vyavastha aur uske साथ-साथ Bharat mein jo Banega Aane Wale Samay Mein Uska Bhi jarurat hai lekin abhi filhal mein temperature Ke Sath Jo advance technology ekadam filhal ka filhal jarurat hai usko ekadam muhaiya karvana bahut jaruri hai bahut jaruri hai Jaise Rus Ka Sukh dekhiae Bharat ko chahie advance technology ka Hathiyar jo jo abhi launch Kisi Niche Se Bahar Karke usko giraya Na Ja sake Aisa Hathiyar ka bahut jaruri hai Nahin to Abhi ka yuddh mein theek Pana bahut jaruri hai isliye advance Soch rakhen Hitech Technology ka advance vetan bahut jaruri hai iske liye aapko chahie 35 Viman aur app 22 Raftar yah doctor Viman jo hai 20-30 ke sankhya Mein donon vimanon ko Sauda Karen Uske Sath Sath Hain Jo Viman Hai vah Bhi Agar 50000 to Jyada 50 60 ka sankhya mein le sake to usko bhi le aur Bharat ke sath Technology transform bhi aur Bharat ka Niyam Neta ke sath Bharat Ek Bada majbut sthiti Mein a Jaaye America ko bhi dene Mein Koi nuksan Nahin Hai Bharat Agar America ke sath regular banaa rahata hai to Prashant Mahasagar Mein Prashan Kshetra Mein jitne bhi Indian ocean Kshetra Mein America Ko Bhi बहुत-बहुत majbuti Milega aur uske sath sath Bharat Ko Bhi majbuti Milega isase Indonesia Ho uske sath Malaysia aur uske sath South Africa Bharat ko majbut karne se aane wale Samay Mein hamare pass Hathiyar Rahega to Japan ko bhi majbur majbuti diya Ja sakta hai Taiwan ko bhi majbuti diya Ja sakta hai aise tarike Se Jyada Se Jyada Bharat ko Hathiyar Dene Ka koshish karen Pentagon se darkhast hai ki hamara Bharat ke Taraf Jyada Se Jyada chhupkar aapko Koi nuksan Nahin Hoga lekin Bharat ko Jyada Se Jyada majbut karna bahut jaruri hai Aane Wale Samay Mein a raha tha USA Ek Sath Milkar bahut majbuti ke sath Kadam uthane ka bahut jaruri hai is China ke China aur Russia aur UK Uttar Koriya ka jo Anda hai jo बार-बार America aur Bharat Aise deshon ke Dara raha hai Jin log acche Manavta ke liye Chalna Chahta Hai Aise dusre Manavta ko bachane ke liye Bharat ko Har mom ke majbut karna bahut jaruri hai yah Jaise shrilanka ko shoshan kar raha hai aise Dakshin America Desh Peru ko bhi Bachana Hai Aise Mein Charon or Bharat ko majbut Karen aur China ka Pankh Kata kaatne ka vyavastha Karen jakar vyavastha Aage Tak badhega aur aage bahut Kamyab milane Ka Asar Rahega yah Har Mumkin Bharat ke sath acche aur Bade deal Karen Jo Jo Bhi Bada Technology Hai Uska लेन-देन Ka Bhi Koi आता-जाता Fark Nahin Padta uska Bharat ko Dene Ka koshish karen Aane Wale technology to Badalta Rahega lekin ek majbut Sathi pure Vishva ke andar America Ka Hona Ek bahut Jaruri Kadam uthane ka barabar hota hai isliye Bharat ko Har Bam Ke Na Apne Sath Rakhe aur Apna majbuti Karan aur Bharat ka majbuti Karan pure Vishva Manavta ke liye bahut jaruri hai Pentagon yah samajhdari se kam Karen aur Bharat Ke Liye Har mom ke jitne bhi hightake Technology ka helicopter Hai 2006 sankhya Mein uske sath Milana chahie aur uske sath sath Jo high Technology
No clutch mechanism like the Osprey. Pusher prop for the WIN.
Hope this Wins, or @ least coinside with the Osprey. The X2 got me exited years ago.
Looks like a 007 submersible heli. That's what I wish it was.
Good to see Defiant X coming along. I've said it before but I really prefer this design compared to the V-280 primarily due to the relative size of both aircraft compared to the Balckhawk and the capabilites that rear prop offers.
Don't very china state hacker hack this design soon 🤣🤣
Turbocharged Blackhawk
Can't wait to see the coast guard get some of these
when is the competition program ending, any one know when the army will do their choice?
2023
Where's vargo ?
Did he say “I wish someone would disconnect but they keep pushing their prop hard forward inside? The thrust is painful and I just wish they would stop thrusting.”
Must be hard to breath and talk with that mask on.
This certainly seems like a better choice for a Blackhawk replacement if we intend to keep the fighting air cav tactics like the Vietnam era picture highlighted. If we need to land more distant becasue of tech changes then maybe the V280 is a good choice. It seems to depend on our choice of tactics imo.
Maravilhoso!
A modern marvel, tought for a very bad use...
Give up range and speed for a quick deceleration, not what I would call a good trade. (vs V-280)
You're not giving up range and speed. The pusher prop still offers that with positive forward thrust. But it can also reverse the blade pitch and decelerate the helicopter quickly, something a regular helicopter can not do.
@@bryanrussell6679 it's not competing with Blackhawks, its competing with V-280
@@Mediiiicc
What did I say that was confusing to you?
@@bryanrussell6679 read my first comment fully and your reply will make no sense
@@Mediiiicc
Your first comment seems to suggest that you think the prop at the back is for braking purposes only.
Bill doesn't really need the mask.
I keep having to say this - please keep the camera within the frame of the person talking and then NOT wearing a face mask since as a black person I am not able to understand what the guy is saying. We are relying on lip reading
Turn on subtitles
Are you joking or something? They're trying to show off the model and the mockup and as attractive as Bill Fell's tie is I'm not watching the video to see that. Also what does being black have to do with understanding english? I'm black and I understood him perfectly not to mention the subtitles you could have turned on. Please try to consider others before making personal requests on a public video.
English is not my native language and I understood everything that was Said.