Hi Sophie, For there to be legal causation D's action have to be both operating and substantial. By operating it means are the D's action currently operating on the victim. As part of this process of deciding if the D's actions are operating you can also take into account that the D's actions do not have to be the sole cause providing they are a cause. The case here of course is Pagett. Although it was the police who shot pagett's girlfriend and their bullets that actually caused the girl's death you have to ask if Pagett's actions were operating on the situation at the time that the police shot her. The court decided that because he had used her as a shield then his actions were operating at the time of her death (the police would not have fired back at him if he had not shot at them and at the time he had used her as a human shield). He argued that the police were the cause and the courts said that providing he was a cause he did not have to be the sole cause. So he was an operating cause even though hew was not the sole cause. I hope that makes sense and has not confused you more.
I am watching from the introduction of Actus Reus all the way to the end, and I am so thankful because I was not prepared for my criminal law exam next week. Thank you so much for the help, great approach !
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Excellent video and a big help for me as I am representing myself in a civil case. Been studying CPR to, taught by a 36 year serving lawyer who has shown me the layman's way to file cases, causation, discovery etc. I think it's a big issue that money stops us getting our rights, makes it a system for the rich. The only way I see combating this, besides another glorious revolution which I'm sure non of us want ( it was a very peaceful revolution really) the only way is to learn it ourselves. It's not that hard once you get the swing of it, break it down into understandable sections.
I have a question: First you say that when looking at legal causation, there are two key concepts: 1)the act must be substantial and operative cause of outcome 2)the cause must not need to be the sole cause, it can be a cause. Later you say that operative means that is has to be A cause, not the sole cause So maybe with the two key concepts you meant 1) substantial 2) operative I'm a little confused here, sorry
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Hi Sophie,
For there to be legal causation D's action have to be both operating and substantial. By operating it means are the D's action currently operating on the victim. As part of this process of deciding if the D's actions are operating you can also take into account that the D's actions do not have to be the sole cause providing they are a cause. The case here of course is Pagett. Although it was the police who shot pagett's girlfriend and their bullets that actually caused the girl's death you have to ask if Pagett's actions were operating on the situation at the time that the police shot her. The court decided that because he had used her as a shield then his actions were operating at the time of her death (the police would not have fired back at him if he had not shot at them and at the time he had used her as a human shield). He argued that the police were the cause and the courts said that providing he was a cause he did not have to be the sole cause. So he was an operating cause even though hew was not the sole cause.
I hope that makes sense and has not confused you more.
That's exactly the answer I was looking for! Thank you very much:)
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I am watching from the introduction of Actus Reus all the way to the end, and I am so thankful because I was not prepared for my criminal law exam next week. Thank you so much for the help, great approach !
you save my life from criminal law exam ....by the way...i am a Chinese, but still can easily understand your lecture....i have to say you are really good teacher..
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Excellent video and a big help for me as I am representing myself in a civil case.
Been studying CPR to, taught by a 36 year serving lawyer who has shown me the layman's way to file cases, causation, discovery etc.
I think it's a big issue that money stops us getting our rights, makes it a system for the rich.
The only way I see combating this, besides another glorious revolution which I'm sure non of us want ( it was a very peaceful revolution really) the only way is to learn it ourselves.
It's not that hard once you get the swing of it, break it down into understandable sections.
Thank you, have recommended this video to everybody in my class
thank you so much for the lectures they really helped. i couldn't understand causation now i understand. thank you very much
Great videos. Well presented and interesting. Makes a difficult concept more manageable.
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I have a question:
First you say that when looking at legal causation, there are two key concepts:
1)the act must be substantial and operative cause of outcome
2)the cause must not need to be the sole cause, it can be a cause.
Later you say that operative means that is has to be A cause, not the sole cause
So maybe with the two key concepts you meant
1) substantial
2) operative
I'm a little confused here, sorry
Do you have to put such graphic picture up? Otherwise great video
Hi, I really enjoyed this video. I have a question about legal causation.
if you cant achieve factual causation do you just move to legal causation? and then see if you can achieve substantial and operative causation?
if i shouted as a prank and scared A causing A to run away and A push B over and B breaks his leg, what am i liable for if anything?
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That injury photo seems excessive for this presentation...
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The text book I got fror this is not in the slightest bit clear
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