Elden Ring's BIGGEST Mystery Is STILL Unsolved! | Elden Ring DLC Lore
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
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Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree Gameplay Trailer just dropped and its packed FULL of information. We breakdown hidden details from in the DLC gameplay trailer. Elden Ring is a 2022 action role-playing game developed by FromSoftware. It was directed by Hidetaka Miyazaki with worldbuilding provided by fantasy writer George R. R. Martin.
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0:00 Intro
1:05 Farum Statue
3:03 Unique Elden Ring
4:33 Statue Subject
6:29 Interesting Connections
8:20 Queen Marika
9:38 Conclusion
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Music:
Metroid Prime OST - Ігри
Ah yes, another 'biggest mystery', much bigger than the other biggest. Some may say the biggiest
If you wanting thins solved it’s likely they won’t 😂
ah indeed
I still say Melina is the biggest mystery in the game, but that’s just my opinion.
@@kode-man23 this gotta be said more man, we know virtually NOTHING about her. actually pisses me off how important she is to our journey and how little we know about her.
If you are a youtuber everything is the biggest something ever. At least he doesnt do the shocked face thumbnails...
That “alright, what’s going on guys” always hits perfectly
If you notice the first wolf is lying down denoting submission, the second is right behind the girl as if watching her perhaps denoting the fact that the shadows must observe their empyreans' loyalty to the greater will, and the third is growling in a pose almost threatening to the child but at the same time as if it were surrounding the girl and growling at someone who is getting too close to her, which may be denoting that at the same time the shadows must put an end to their Empyreans if they rebel against the greater will they must be their guards at the same time
I noticed the same. And, idk if the model is broken (either defaced or otherwise), but the wolves don't seem to have any fangs. They have claws, but not fangs. Very strange.
@@Liontamer972 in the original art they had it, I think it may be a simplification in the model within the game
The central spine of the Elden Ring above the statue could be what Messmer’s icon is drawn from. It’s reminiscent of the entwined snakes you’ve been showing us as well as all the spiral themes elsewhere.
I think the central pattern is also reminiscent of Miquella's needle (the one you get from Malenia)
Something I've seen nobody else mention/seem to notice is that the Maliketh Elden Ring actually features the rune of death, right at the bottom. It's small, but the shape matches the rune of death perfectly and is clearly distinct from the root shapes.
I'm sorry but the Rune of Death is very clearly part of the Elden Ring from the title screen. It's the Arc and middle line on the top of it. The same arc that is holding Marika prisoner before we enter the Erdtree.
The bottom one is the source of the Rune Arcs we use to activate the Runes we take from the demigods.
The Rune of Death literally has the shape of crucified Marika. The same shape those summoning stakes have, as well as those posts where crucified people scream at night
@@christiandannielmacieldeli8517 Nah, that's the Golden Order/pre-shattering formation of the Elden Ring, which is after the rune of death was removed. The golden order was established by the rune of death's removal, so would make no sense for it to still feature in the Elden Ring and it would have to feature in the Maliketh's arena one due to its age.
Also, Marika's scarseal depicts that top rune and states:
"engraved with an Elden Rune, said to be the seal of Queen Marika."
No mention of death and Implies that it's her great rune, one that we do not get access to in the game.
And finally, the rune of death's arcs point slightly downwards, not up. To me it seems that Marika's rune is the rune of life, hence its opposite position and inversion to the rune of death.
That line seems to just be horizontal, like the beginning of a Rune Arc.
I thought the statue was depicting Miquella since before giving us the three wolf summon Ranni says; These were from Torrent's former master. And we can see a figure that's likely to be Miquella riding on a Torrent from the very first promotional image of dlc.
The wolves' master was a Tarnished.
I thought the bell belonged to Miquella aswell, If the wolf ashes were his that would kinda change my Perspektive of Miquellas involvement, but not much.
Also @theydisintegrate, all 3 of them are spirits, if Miquella will be in the DLC as the Trailer suggests, then he got rid of his body aswell. Which was a Plan of his anyway.
I also believe that Miquella had a Hand in the night of the Black knifes, but that's just a theory.
@@TheRealJohnux I would think the wolves in the statue are from before they became spirits and maybe Torrent was also alive when Miquella had him, since it was so long ago. Melina was probably alive before the first burning and Ranni definitely was.
@@theydisintegrate by the time before the shattering all of them were alive, maybe not Melina if she is the gloam eyed Queen, so she would be "dead" first.
@@Cobalt4 there is currently no hard evidence to tie Miquella to the Night of Black Knifes, though what I believe is that Miquella assisted Ranni in her plan by stealing the Fragment of Destined Death for her. We learn from multiple Items that Miquellas skillset involved Sleep and Manipulation, very useful abilities if you wanted to steal a fragment of the Rune of death from Maliketh, and we also aren't given any explanation on How Ranni managed to steal it, all we ever got from her was that she proclaimed herself to have stolen Death. Nothing more. There is also the connection to the Black Knifes, from Tiche's spirit ashes we learn that the Assassins of the Black Knifes fled the City of Leyndell after the deed Was done, and from the Locations of the remaining Black knifes I assume that the group scattered and went into hiding in various places, caves and catacombs for the most part, and we also see the leader of the group imprisoned in an Evergloam and multiple dead Black knifes after the conclusion of Rannis quest when they attack Blaidd and Iji, which lead me to believe that Ranni betrayed the group after they finished the job and they sought revenge, though there are 3 Black Knifes in Ordina aswell and I think there is only 2 possible reasons, either to seek refuge in the City or the Haligtree OR to get into the Haligtree to kill Miquella. If they are seeking refuge in the City or even guard the Entrance to the Haligtree it would have to be with Miquella allowing them, and if they wanted to kill Miquella because he abandoned the group aswell after they fled from Leyndell then it would still indicate his involvement. Even if they were staying in Ordina without specifically guarding it, it would be odd that they would be tolerated, given they killed Godwyn.
There is also the circumstance under which we meet Ranni for the first time. She just appeared, for "no reason" to confirm that we are the Tarnished that has Torrent, gives us the Spirit summoning bell and the Wolf ashes, that belonged to Torrents Former Master, which we know to be Miquella, and leaves. She wasn't there for us, she doesn't try to recruit us into her Service, nothing but "hey, take this if you have Torrent" and left.
I feel like the problem of people trying to place a character to that statue whether it’s Miquella, Ranni or Marika that I feel like is forgotten is that Farum Azula was destroyed WAY before Marika’s rule, and before Miquella’s and Ranni’s births (This isn’t up for debate we has definitive timeline placements for all of these). It can be any character we know of.
It wouldn’t also be the Gloam Eyed Queen given the context that she was an Empryean by the two fingers, who active in the time around Marika, either as related to Marika as sibling or daughter of some kind. All of these characters wouldn’t be that statue because Farum, once again, has been destroyed long before the Erdtree.
“It is said that the ancient royal city of Farum Azula has been slowly crumbling since time immemorial.” - Old Lord’s Talisman
“The ancient dragons, who ruled in the prehistoric era before the Erdtree, would protect their lord as a wall of living rock.” - Dragoncrest shield
Possible that the statue is new, but I generally agree there
we have no idea what exactly time immemorial would be, it could be from the beginning of time or the beginning of the erdtree era, it doesn't even confirm if this started in the prehistoric era of the dragons it could even only have started in a long after that age, but it would already be immemorial for the people of the lands between
Possibly Maliketh built it or timey wimey shenanigans due to it being in Faram Azula
@@dafyddrogers9385 Why Maliketh built a statue of Marika that looks nothing like her when we have other statues depicting her in great detail. Why would he build a statue in an already destroyed building? No of that checks out.
Bazinga! It's the Sheldon Ring!
The biggest mystery to me is how the hell I got to Farum Azula in the first place. This isn't a joke. It actually bothers me.
Melina transports you there like she did Roundtable Hold.
@@Kuranzyan If Melnia can teleport us to places, why ain't she teleport us to the Lyndell Capital? Instead of making us walk all the way there!
Those who walk along side the flame shall one day meat the Road of destined death'
I think burning the erdtree open the path to farum asulacuz its literaly road of distined death
@@salaciousvgameswe wouldn’t have enough runes/power
Why tf would Melina have the ability of transporting us to Farum Azula? Like does she only acquire this abilty when shes burned by the Flame of Ruin? Or if not so why wouldnt she be able to just teleport us directly to Leyndell? This doesnt make any sense.@@Kuranzyan
When i look at the three wolves they seem fearful and cautious but also submissive. These wolves are being tamed by this woman. Is it beasts being gifted intelligence? Are these the first shadows? It could be the gloam eyed queen,renna or possibly the woman in the painting.
I kind of see it as a representation of what shadows should be to their Empyreans, it wouldn't be representing specific shadows but just the meaning behind
If you notice the first wolf is lying down denoting submission, the second is right behind the girl as if watching her perhaps denoting the fact that the shadows must observe their empyreans' loyalty to the greater will, and the third is growling in a pose almost threatening to the child but at the same time as if it were surrounding the girl and growling at someone who is getting too close to her, which may be denoting that at the same time the shadows must put an end to their Empyreans if they rebel against the greater will and must be their guards at the same time
@@davisiotta489 that's a good one. I could see it being that. There's submissiveness but they're also dangerous to their empyrean which fits nicely with what we know about shadows
Speaking of wolves, did we ever figure out what wolves fall from the sky in Limgrave. I still don't understand what was going on there and I'm not sure it happens anywhere else.
Also why does radagon have so many wolves?
There's a more thing somewhere about storms with wolves in them I think they come on the wind.
I'm pretty sure the Elden Ring there is just a primordial version of it, back when it possessed lots of more actual runes that were probably lost to time. As for the person surrounded by wolves, I just can't fathom any statues other than Marika being in a place like this, especially with her shadow as the boss of the arena. I feel like it may have been several wolves being considered for her shadow since she was already destined to become the new God, and Maliketh was the one eventually chosen.
But idk. Those ties to Ranni are kind of strong too.
I always thought the statue is of Miquella. Ranni asks if you have Torrent, then gives you the lone wolf ashes. The description of the ashes states that these wolves were cast out of their packs. Seems to me there’s an obvious connection to Miquella and the 3 wolves.
It’s an excellent point. I only wonder because Malenia and Miquella are the youngest out of the Empyreans, since they’re twins and came about due to the convergence of Marika and Radagon. I still think that it might be Melina, since I believe that she’s the Gloam-Eyed Queen. I also think that she’s the oldest out of them along with Messmer, and hopefully the DLC provides us more info with this.
Miquella has a thing for outcasts so
@@seanoconnor5473 I think Melina is or was either godwyns consort or maybe even messmer. Out of all the demigods, she’s the only one who lacks the defining hair colors and characteristics. She’s the only demigod that is the size of a normal human. Every other demigod is a giant literally Ranni,Rykard,radahn,and even malenia are huge. The omen twins are also huge. Godwyn appears to be atleast bigger than the black knives also who are taller than the player character. Melina probably isnt related by blood imo
That makes no sense. Miquella waaayy after Farum Azula. I can’t be him. Also the Wolf ashes already talked about their owner it was a tarnished.
“Spirits of wolves chased from their pack. They later encountered a nameless Tarnished, who welcomed them as hunting companions. The wolf spirits overwhelm enemies with their agility, aiding the summoner in combat.”
Also since Malenia is his Twin. Why isn’t she depicted anywhere?
@@sampalace358 yeah, but the one eye gives her away as the only people who have those are the empyreans, at least the ones that we can see. Ranni, Messmer, and Melina all have the marking and the one eye. So she has to be an empyrean. She also says that Marika is her mother and she’s able to channel her words and memories.
One thing very unique about the current Elden Ring, is that you can see the grids which symbolize Radagon, you don't see that in the picture in Farum Azula. It's not just a smaller great rune, but also has something new to it. And the law of causality and regression can probably explain the differences between two elden rings.
Chaos and order. Radagon’s crosshatch pattern (needle stitching) representing order. The crucible seems a lot more chaotic in the sense that “life finds a way.”
From's track record told me that this is likely gonna remain a mystery and never get touches on in the DLC, the DLC is instead more likely gonna break many of the theories that were already established within the speculating community.
I think a safe bet is to expect some clarification on the core elements of the story of a souls game. In this case: the crucible, Miquella, Marika, the Shadowlands, the Erdtree etc.
The “unimportant” elements in souls games, like the statue surrounded by 3 wolves, will not be expected to be clarified. At the end of the day, Subtraction is Attraction - the Miyazaki design philosophy
If u ask me, the girl is supposed to be Marika or a representation of the lands between. And the wolves represent the outer gods, specifically The Greater Will, The Frenzied Flame, and either the dark moon or the formless mother.
Thank you for your videos! Sometimes we get so caught up in combat and trying not to die. That we miss details like this and you make me love this game even more👏🏼
I figured that since the room was inhabited by Guranq/Malekith that the statue was Marika, and that the rune was the Elden Ring as it was before Marika ascended to godhood...
Ok wild theory here:
First keep in mind that the key players in ER have great virtues with a tragic flaw.
Anyways the root of all is Marika and I will state here that Marika is/used to be the Gloam-eyed Queen.
In order to bring the Age of the Erdtree, she sealed the giant's flame along with destined death. DD is the power of the GQ.
We have Melina, the kindling maiden, that transports you where DD is while she burns the Erdtree. Melina comes from Marika and she is literally what we need in order to bring a new age if we don't go for the Lord of Chaos route, which leads to Melina to manifest as a new form for the GQ
Here is the speculation from a parallel. Millicent is Malenia's Pride that she left behind in order to match Radahn.
Melina is the GQ's aspect sealed from Marika in order to bring the Age of the Erdtree.
What else do we know from the GQ?
She was the mother of the Godskin apostles, she even cradles them, no wonder they go to sleep fairly easy.
Who is interested in motherhood and births? Melina, the character we wished we knew more about, and Marika kinda sucks as a mother later on with her sacrifices speech.
That statue is proto Marika like the Elden Ring above her.
The wolves and child statue represent jungian psychology as the moment conciousness takes place out of chaos
Maybe the other Elden ring rune in Malikeths arena is depicting the shadow tree, and the Elden ring is depicting the erdtree. These two trees need to be equal and the veil severed. Once the worlds are one, life and death can both happen. Miquella traveled to the shadow land to sever the veil, and make the trees eclipse and become one of the
the one option that makes the most sense is that she is the geq, being depicted below her own shape of the elden ring celebrating maliket's victory. the page from the artbook show the three wolves being very aggressive.
I don't think that the representation of Farum Azula's elden ring has more runes than the current one, if you look carefully, none of the outermost runes complete a full circle, they shine less than the central runes (as is clearer in the conceptual art) and you may even notice that the lines of some of the runes turn into roots, I believe that these extra runes are nothing more than the "root rune" imitating the shape of other great runes, I think that only the runes in the center of the ring are true runes, I think this root rune is the equivalent of the Radagon rune that perhaps has been reforged or replaced by the Radagon rune
I believe the girl in the statue is Marika and is representing her duty as a future vessel for the elden ring, perhaps she is the daughter of the ancient god of Farum azula
its definitely the gloam eyed queen. vargram holds the queens black flame sword and the godskin duo resides in azula as well, no doubt in my mind the statue is of melina/gloam eyed queen
They are there because Malekith hides there.
And he is the one who wields destined death.
It'd funny if that statue was just an asset from the Unreal marketplace store. Rennala's library was made almost entirely from those assets.
Would love to see what your source is on that because that just sounds blatantly untrue
@@applebees563 search [ asmongold This Game Doesn't Even Exist ] timestamp 18:29
@@applebees563agreed post evidence lol
Ngl, post the source.
RE. the Elden Ring symbol at Azula: it appears to be a Caduceus which, as you know, has some connection with Snakes in the real world. Dragons are "serpents" in From games, so I wonder if there's a healing motif? Knowledge?
Wait, but Ranni says that the bell and the wolves’ ashes are not actually from her… She says something implying it was Melina (or whoever “Torrent’s former master is supposed to be) who sent it to you and she’s just the delivery girl 🤔
Doesn't Ranni give you 3 Wolf spirit ashes while under the name "Renna"? Maybe it's Renna, who might have been the Gloam Eye Queen? Explains why Ranni knows about death and stuff, knowing/trained under the Gloam Eye Queen or maybe her offspring? (Or Gloam Eye Queen survived but weaker idk).
Edit: Great minds think almost alike 😄
I have reason to believe that the Land of Shadow (Marika’s hidden shadow of the Lands Between) is where The Gloam Eyed Queen was sent to after being “defeated”, just as many concepts such as the Blasphemous symbols of the Snake, and the Crucible.
It is for this reason why I wont go into to too much detail until the DLC, but I believe that statue represents The Gloam Eyed Queen (whom I believe to be Marika before becoming a god and splitting her personality, as a prototype for her Radagon situation). A God who was the ruler, or representative, of the previous age… until, of course, Queen Marika decided to change that order
I also DON’T think it’s placidusax’ god. The “fled god” situation seems like a very Miyazaki thing to do to keep it left ambiguous. Similar to how he left Gwyn’s firstborn ambiguous until they decided to do Dark Souls 3
It's have to be Queen Marika. Numen are known to live a long lives. They are call "Eternal" for a reason. Eternal City. Queen Marika "The Eternal". Maybe the Nox/Numen used to live in Farum Azula but was driven to underground after it was destroyed? Farum Azula and Eternal City does have some similar architecture. Or that the people from Farum Azula foreseen the future of an Empyrean child and build a statue of her. And maybe Queen Marika took that form and MIMIC that child and put herself as the next Empyrean. Seems possible they mimic Farum Azula for some reason.
Placidusax was the consort of a goddess, I believe this goddess came from the ancient dynasty as the cleyman bubble incantations talk about them searching for lost oracles, oracles herald the arrival of a new god or age and I believe the case for the ancient dynasty was a god that placidusax became consort, I speculate that Marika could be the daughter of both as all the Empyreans we know seem to be descended from a god and Marika would be the same, this would explain why a statue representing Marika I would be in Farum Azula
Ranni gives you the bell and ashes and says they are from Torrents former master. I think it is Miquella in the statue, and the timeline does not always need to make sense in a place like farum. And he would be connected to the crucible of he is trying to make a new erdtree or create a haven for the crucible beings. Maybe because time is all screwed up, Placidusax even met Miquella.
But i do like the idea of Maliketh protecting the statue of Marika
Ziostorm with the early morning vids always gets me distracted at work lol
Reminds me of the Lost Final, it clear that these heavy hand “mysteries” mean nothing at all what so ever. It JJ Abrams mystery box, it’s their to make you think their something interesting when the developer had no idea or care what so every is actually trying to write a mystery.
It's Miquella. When Ranni gives you the wolf ashes, she says she was told to give them to you "from a friend". She is also looking for someone riding Torrent. We know Torrent was Miquella's, now, after seeing him ride the thing on the DLC teaser.
Miquella is most likely torrents owner, and torrents owner wanted you to have 3 wolves so if it was a prophetic statue then it would make sense, but idk why that would be in farum azula.
Miquella could be the owner of the wolves but they were given to him by Marika?
Its kinda wild to think that one DLC could render hours upon hours of speculated lore videos to be wrong
Very interesting detail I noticed, the Ring here has 4 central runes whereas the current Ring has 3 runes with one in the middle of the triangle. If you notice all the main roads in the game (the ones that are tiled), have this 4 runed Ring sigil on the tiles, identical to the one in Farum Azula. Feels like they had a much bigger influence back in the day.
in fact the current Elden ring also has 4 runes but they are not organized in the same way, Farum Azula's Elden ring has 4 runes one at the bottom, one at the top, one at the left and one at the right, while the current Elden Ring has one at the top, one in the center, one on the left and one on the right
@@davisiotta489 Exactly, one’s in a cross formation and the other is like a triforce.
Dragons can take human form. This statue, given its location, could represent a daughter of Placidusax. The statue at the top of the hero's grave in Limgrave, where the dragon communion seal is found, could be the same person. Also the kneeling and praying statue in the shaded castle and the statue missing its hands in all the heroes graves.
I can see both things being the same, Marika is the daughter of Placidusax and his goddess!
Now we just have to wait for the DLC and either we will be impressed by the right speculation or we will laugh at the nonsense I said
I mean, why can't it just be the dragon God herself
All right, what's going on guys?
over the last month
Alright, what's going on ryder?
Ever since the Elden Ring DLC trailer dropped
I feel the bass in my scrotum
and we finally got our first look
I like to imagine that statue is young Marika. Considering she set most of the current world in motion it goes from root of potential to the end result which we encounter. We know nothing of young Marika. She would have symbolism and imagery that would have passed to her children. Just kind of ties together lots of lines. Who knows, maybe we never will.
I believe it’s Ranni. She more than likely accidentally awoke a slumbering Great One in her quest for darkness.
I believe it's just Marika as a child. As that is where maliketh (a wolf) finishes protecting her
I kind of believe that Marika could be the daughter of placidusax with his goddess who disappeared
I still think Placidusax's god was the Gloom-Eyed-Queen. The statue could be either GEQ or Mericka.
Btw, I always assumed they were sisters like Melania, Miquela, and Ranni are siblings.
I think it is much more likely that Marika is their daughter
My thoughts is that it could be the GEQ. Since while she was around, the rune of death was part of the elden ring and it powered her godslaying power. And we know that the rune of death was removed on creation of the Golden Order. Is it possible that the GEQ was the god while placidusax was elden lord?
I believe in this theory, but I don't think the girl in the statue is her, I believe it's Marika
If you consider that she had a consort then they almost certainly also had children, apparently in this case the godskins, but then they probably also had an Empyrean which in this case could very well be Marika, it's not like children revolting against their own fathers were a rare theme in Elden Ring
There's another interesting detail about the spirit calling bell you receive from Ranni. When she gives it, she says it was entrusted to her by Torrent's former master. Who was Torrent's former master? I don't know if we can say for sure, but the promotional image used to announce Shadow of the Erdtree seems to depict Miquella riding Torrent.
It's also possible that the bell came from Miquella, but the wolf ash from Ranni. She doesn't seem to say anything about that specifically, but she certainly has an affinity with wolves.
Ranni says the wolves given as ashes are entrusted to the tarnished from “Torrent’s Former Master” which we now know to be Miquella from the DLC image. The person in that statue is more likely than not Miquella.
The way I have always viewed the hierarchy of power in elden ring is that at the top is a outer God an outer God then chooses an empyrean once the empyrean houses the elden ring within them acting as a vessel they become a god and need an elden Lord to do their bidding.
This is very likely to especially since other Outer Gods always messing with Empyreans so that they hold their order (Malenia Rot, Miquella Formless Mother, and Ranni Greater Will or maybe the Dark Moon?). Meaning that they need an Empyrean to hold their order.
Learn punctuation.
@@feshpince7181 nah
Cant wait to piss on miquella with my new piss build im piss all over the erdtree too
@@_BlackenedSun You’re…..not a smart human being…are you?
Haven’t watched the full video but the statue could be representing Marika and her three wolves being maliketh blaidd and one more we will see in the dlc
Nah, it makes no sense one being Blaidd, you are just picking a wolf and rationalizing being him.
The statue is Melina aka the Gloam Eyed Queen as she knew to send you there after burning the Erdtree
Love the videos man I always look forward to your speculations
Most people have two wolves in them. Apparently, Empyreans have three wolves in them.
In all seriousness, I think the statue is Melina. She states that she was born of the foot of the Erdtree, but now we know that the Erdtree was originally born in the Land of Shadows. Some of the architecture from what we’ve seen in the DLC does look very similar to the architecture of Farum Azula. I truly hope we get the original Farum Azula in the DLC and hopefully this sheds some more light on Melina and possibly Messmer being her twin.
Not to mention the Lion Dancer. I'm thinking that Faram Azula was for sure the previous culture. After Marika's victory, she held her capital there before whatever event that caused that veil to drop. The sea in the middle of the map also looks like a perfect size for the DLC, and since we know Faram Azula was attached to the Bestial Sanctum at some point before being ripped out, it all just fits together nicely.
@@Anarchyttg Same here. The second I saw the Lion Dancer, I immediately thought of the beast incantations that Gurranq uses. The architecture looks so similar that I’m completely with you on your points. Is it June 21st yet?
There is technically one more wolf, which is the red wolf of radagon in service to radagon...
I totally think it's Miquella ... when Ranni gives you the spirit bell, it comes with the three wolves and Ranni says this used to belong to Torrent's former owner, which is almost definitely Miquella.
Miquella was born after Farum’s fall. That doesn’t make any sense.
The biggest mystery is why is the name the Lands Between? Between what? What's so important elsewhere that the place with the giant glowing tree, dwelling place of demigods and celestial hotspot's characteristic worth naming is that it is between something else?
either this refers to the lands between being between the world of the living and the dead or this refers to the lands between being in some way between all the other lands in the world, I personally like the idea of the second one must
it's a reference to lord of the rings for middle earth
@@Boss_Fight_Wiki_muki_twitch That's kinda my point though. In LotR the seat of the Valar, site of the trees and final home of the elves has a proper name. I get that it may be a homage by Martin or Miyazaki but in universe it seems odd that inhabitants would name such an important and storied land after it's relation to other places. Unless of course it refers to an enchanted Otherworld like status.
I think we might get a look at what Tatum mazula looks like before it got banished
It’s interesting to note they’re called the “Lone Wolf” ashes, like they’re supposed to be alone. And then Radagon had his Red Wolf, which also has counterparts that could form a pack of sorts. Plus the muscled up wolves at the top of Caria Manor~ it’s definitely connected in weird ways lol.
Yo! If you want to look up wolf themes in ancient history, a good place to start is Lupercalia. Lupercalia involved men running naked into the woods and sacrificing a goat(and possibly a wolf), skinning it and then whipping women who wanted to get pregnant with the freshly flayed skin. These strips of hide were called, "Februa," and are the origin of the name for the month of February.
I think it's Melina only because she knows so much about about Marika and her multiple conquests. And the other fact is she teleports us too farum azula as well. We also know very little about her
One thing I wonder about is the nature of the ‘ascended’ forms of each of the unique humanized enemies/creatures we meet: Boc, Rya, Iji, Blaidd, Hewg, Miriel, Gurranq, Gostoc, Latenna/Pidia and a few we don’t meet that can take human form it occurred to me that these were likely not spontaneous. Marika/her bloodlines/Erdtree seem to act as a parasites spreading themselves to all adjacent - even to the point of rebirthing clones of themselves like mushrooms from spores, and I wonder even up to evolving non-humans to chimeric-human purposefully or accidentally.
The Elden Ring in Malekith's arena and Marika/Radagon's Elden Ring are only superficially similar. The latter DOESN'T seem to be a fraction of the former. Their circles don't match, and the stem is completely different. I don't think they're the same 'Elden Ring', though the older of the two may be some precursor of the more recent one.
if you notice these extra runes appear to be actually part of the "root rune" you can even see two rows of these runes turning into roots, I believe this is the elden ring when it belonged to another god and Marika transformed it drastically when she became they vessel, I believe that the double helix is the representation of duality, competition and opposition, things that are basically denied by the golden order so the elden ring during the erdtree age no longer features this double helix and it becomes a straight line of order
Did Fromsoft even confirm that its only going to be one DLC? Dark Souls 2 & 3 had multiple and Elden Ring has enough uncovered depth to its story and lore for atleast 2-3 more DLCs
My guy you failed to point out that Ranni says she was given the wolf spirits by a previous owner.
Its over shooting, its just miquella using summon wolves, i will also not be surprised if he is the true mastermind of everything down to godwyn's death, miquella the manipulator
As far as Empyreans Shadows go, I’d love to see what Miquella, Melania and the GEQs shadow bound beasts look like.
They should all have one since they’re all empyreans.
Maybe the kid is actually Radagon. It could be Placidusax’s son, which makes his name a kind of revelation. That or Miquella is engaging in time traveling or some bs lmao
My dumbass instantly went to "oh that must be the girl who owned the 3 wolf spirits."
Am i the only one that saw the spiral shape in the center of the old elden ring and thought of miqeulla's needle?
Because Elden Ring's "prophecies" seem to just be orders given by Marika, and the time travel only goes back to when Placidusax's arena was still intact, I believe that the statue isn't depicting Ranni, Malenia, or Miquella. While we never see the Gloam-Eyed Queen, if we estimate her appearance and garb based on her followers, the girl doesn't seem to be a match for that either, and she has little in common with Melina too. While the girl looks like she has the most in common with Marika, their styles of dress and the decorations on each don't really match, and the girl's hair flowers are not akin to anything Marika has worn.
Thus, I believe that the statue depicts Placidusax's god, and hopefully at a time long before she was ever married to him, though the fact that what seems to be the city's central shrine depicts her near the Elden Ring at that age is worrying. I agree that the wolves seem to be terrorizing her, with one feeling pretty comfortable that she's in peril, so it looks like this Empyrean wasn't happy to be made a god, and Farum Azula potentially used intimidation as a major factor in making Empyreans take the Elden Ring and stay in line.
If so, then perhaps Placidusax's god fled not from a calamity, but to escape being a god. Granted, I feel the state of Farum Azula implies it did face an ancient cataclysm, but Placidusax's god may have fled for multiple reasons.
It seems that Placidusax's god abandoned the Elden Ring at some point, and perhaps even separated it into its individual Great Runes. That would explain how Marika could seemingly have some Great Runes while the Gloam-Eyed Queen wielded the Rune of Death until Maliketh defeated her. Perhaps this may have inspired Marika to seemingly distribute shards of the Great Runes upon shattering the Elden Ring, as though that would best create a ferocious war and a mighty victor.
As for the Elden Ring in the mural, the arrangement of the four rings curiously matches the pattern seen on the road tiles throughout the Lands Between. While the Rune Arcs seem to be mostly absent, that wouldn't be the first depiction of the Elden Ring that didn't display them, so this could be another artistic liberty. As for the various roots, I believe that this might actually be a depiction of an extremely young Erdtree that's still just sprouting from its seed. The extensive root network might be underway and thus given the most influence, particularly if Farum Azula hasn't found the sapling yet or the Erdtree was uniquely designed by the Greater Will to grow all of its roots first.
If that is the root system of the Erdtree, then the Farum Azula mural might depict the earliest origin of the Lands Between's recurring "Elden Ring within the Erdtree" motif.
Thanks for the video, Ziostorm!
My theory is that the image we see in faram azula is the primordial crucible itself, basically the elden ring but still containing the rune of death and possibly others that Marika or even someone else may have removed.
I think it could be Marika, but either way it is a showing of an imperium before take over of the TWO fingers or without the TWO fingers influence, just like the wolfs appear as Ranni separates from the TWO fingers and only when she separates from IT. I think is the original way of things before the TWO fingers meddle in. And yes the New Elden rings symbol seems distorted with Radagon crisscross and what it appears the Old monk crucifix stuck in his body.
I think the statue is of Miquella. I also have a wild theory that I’m hanging on to for dear life. I think Torrent is Miquella. I’ve thought that for a long time. Both Ranni and Melina make sure to be respectful to Torrent the entire time. And the fact that Torrent chooses us from the beginning.
Is it just me or are these literally dogs not wolves
Miquella and Farum Azula are also connected by unalloyed gold. Unalloyed gold was first used in Farum Azula, and later rediscovered by Miquella.
I'm a little hazy on the ER timeline, but I get the impression that anything in Farum Azula predates Marika and the Erdtree. Marika may have been the successor to Placidusax's god, but it's also possible that there were other gods in between. The figure in the statue is almost certainly someone we aren't familiar with, unless it's somehow a later addition.
Something interesting to note in this depiction of the Elden Ring is that there seems to be four main loops at the center, rather than three. Just like the tiles on Godfrey's road.
Unalloyed gold was Miquella's invention, whereas Farum Azula just seemed to have "regular" gold. As for the number of rings, all depictions of the Elden Ring actually feature four circles, they're just arranged differently.
@@nightscout9979 They aren't talking about the circles.
They are talking about the roots, like Radagon's vines are also an part of the Golden Order Elden ring.
@@rafsandomierz5313 They were talking about the circles, hence the comment about loops shared with the road tiles. Radagon's sigil only seems to have been added to the Elden Ring when he was desperately trying to keep it together, as the Elden Ring isn't depicted with that lattice anywhere else and there's no longer a need for it once the Elden Ring can be mended.
I think Future Press will release a Elden Ring vol 3 guide for Shadow of the Erdtree and then 5 years later release an THICK all in one (vol 1-3)
Just remember that there were all kinds of theories and speculation about the DS3 dlc content before it came out. Everyone's predictions were based on parts of the story that were unanswered or unexplained. Nobody was right. Nobody.
Ever since seeing the castle with floating rocks above at 1:08 in the dlc trailer, almost like the veil cuts through the castle... I keep thinking maybe the veil has something to do with Farum Azula being this disconnected floating chunk of castle/land... and the clear links to the crucible, dragons/beast men seem likely to be related to the shadowlands... and if the shadowlands are stuck in a perpetual war, maybe a time element at play there too...
Im probably overthinking it but I really want to know what and why Farum Azula is. Has been the biggest day 1 mystery for me
It's Marika. Under her bed In the queens bedchamber is a flower motif that is all over the ground in Farum Azula in important places. Also the cloth she wears behind her dress is also hanging in the godskin apostle boss fight arena. Marika was important to Farum Azula.
Could she be the daughter of placidusax?
@@davisiotta489 would explain Godrick’s infatuation with his “Dragon” heritage, and Godwyn’s relation to dragons, Godfrey’s relationship with the Crucible era etc.
@@Darkheart00 I don't think Godrick knows of Marika's origins, I think it's more likely that he is linking his dragon heritage to the fact that he is probably descended from Lansseax and Godwyn, I still think this is a clue to Godrick and Marika's older origins but I doubt any of the Demigods perhaps aside from the Empyreans knew anything about Marika's true origins, this could also explain why Radagon has red hair since red is associated with the crucible and dragons also seem closely linked with the crucible so it would make sense for Marika's other half to also have ties to dragons and the crucible
@@davisiotta489 I 100% agree. I more meant it as a thematic connection between Godrick and Marika. George Martin likes to play with the idea of successors/children of lords unintentionally inheriting the good/bad aspects of them.
@@Darkheart00 yeah, I can see other weaker connections in some of the other demigods, Messmer and Rykard are linked with snakes and snakes are extremely thematically linked with dragons in the souls series, Miquella and Malenia have butterfly wings which doesn't seem to make any sense at first But isn't Seath a scaleless dragon with insect wings? Couldn't the same thing apply to Miquella and Malenia because of their dragon heritage?
I believe the symbol above the statue in Farum Azula just to be the Elden Ring before The Shattering. it is missing pieces now because so many Demigods have perished. One important thing to notice is the one thing that the new Elden Ring has that the older depiction does not is the sign or Radagon's influence (The crosshatch design, that is his symbol.)
If you dive into Norse mythology it will explain a lot.
This symbol is known as the Web of Wyrd in Norse mythology. The underlying concept of reality is the web which holds everything together in all dimensions including time. I believe this is how Radagon/Marika attempted to keep the world held together while still being able to remove the Rune of Death.
The Erdtree is similar to Yggdrasil of Norse Mythology, in which the tree acts as a time loop of sorts, people die become part of the tree the leaves fall and become their story and the process repeats.
I think that the Realm of Shadow is the land of the dead, and the replacement we will see there for sights of grace is "The Lamplight" that is described in the lore of Helphen's Steeple.
I have the feeling that this statue shows the first god, the one that fled. It would be a great chance for an Elden Ring 2 game. I would love to find out what happened in the Lands Between in the time of the Crucible.
We might learn about the crucible in the dlc
Name of the music at the start of the video ?
Everytime Zionstorm says “Biggest” or “rarest” in all of his videos you have to take a shot
So is nobody gonna talk about how the "girl" in the statue has three wolves, and its believed that Miquella(who appears feminine) was torrents former master. Ranni gives us three wolves to summon due to our connection to Torrent, implying some significance.
Weird how we know nothing about the Gloam Eyed Queen despite her being an empyrean.
It's kind of like Velka's situation from Dark Souls
My thoughts: The Elden Ring in Farum Azula is that of the age of The Crucible, with a different presentation of a few runes. Which ones? Well, the top rune is different, for one, as is Radagon's.
That statue is not that of a young girl, it's of a young Radagon. Radagon is strongly associated with the Crucible. Radagon is also associated with the giant wolves. He is a hero of a bygone age, and I suspect only allied to Marika by virtue of her being chosen to lead by the triumphant Golden Order.
His rune has changed in the current iteration of the Elden Ring, but it holds the same significance; it is the roots, it is the weave upon which the other runes find their place in the current order. Marika's age was one of ordered life, not the crucible and unordered life. Radagon was not happy in Marika's order, but a loyal servant of it nevertheless.
Great video !
Not sure if this is later in the video, but we have another empryean wolf. The Red Wolf of Radagon. Cuz Radagon is Marika. The Red Hair of the wolf could be a connected point between the giants wnd Marika starting her reign by warring against the giants.
Is there going to be a physical edition with the dlc included?
My guess is tied up with some other theories: that it’s a young Melina, who is also the gloam eyed queen and, probably more controversially, is also the Snow Witch who taught Ranni.
To back up the snow witch part: we know that Ranni’s doll is made up to look like the Snow Witch and, color aside, it bears a pretty strong resemblance to Melina. It also has a glowing right eye, matching the apparent “Gloam” eye we see on Melina in the flame of frenzy ending. We do also find the Godskin duo in Farum Azula, within visual distance of the building containing that relief. There’s also the fact that the Gloam eyed Queen seemed to be an empyrean of death until she was defeated by Maliketh, and that Ranni, the Snow Witch’s protege went on to steal part of it from him.
The thing is her *soul* also has closed eye.
Closed eye might be just something permanent left by the ritual she performed to separate herself from the previous body, and thus no matter what vessel she chooses she will always have one of her eyes permanently closed.
Personally I think it's prophetic instead of the old elden ring. Since ranni was originally meant to be marikas successor I believe it's just the prophecy of Rannis assension. But just how prophecies don't usually work out the way they're perceived. She became a goddess/queen very differently than planned but it almost ensured her assension regardless.
If the top of that rune doesn't look like kalameets command grab you're maidenless. Placidusax is a construct and I all I got was this formless mother. Um godwyns a carp too because they are everlasting
its gotta be marika depicting an origin myth sorta like romulas and remus and the she wolf
It`s a probably sort of a time loop and the statue might be Miquella in that case.
What if every generation of demigods has a set of 3 empyreans? With the only other set we would know of being Marika’s generation. Then the god that fled would be her mother, GEQ being her sister, and Plac being not their father but their lord with an unnamed humanoid being the first lord. It would draw a ton of parallels between Marika’s reign and her potential mother’s. The praying empyrean wouldn’t be anyone in particular but a symbol of a new god rising from the war of the 3 “wolves” (meaning other empyreans and their shadows)
Marika’s spiritual duality would be the anomaly in the cycle. She simultaneously sired 3 empyreans while also never doing so as both Marika and with a being that wasn’t herself.
if i'm not mistaken there are 3 red wolves of raddagon in the game 1 before rennala 1 in nokron 1 in moon alter soo that might have something to do with the statu
I believe the Elden Ring we see in Azula is representing the outer gods and the golden order once unified
The story is about how the golden order has been trying to rid of its offspring (the outer gods) through the Demi gods who are the vessels of those outer gods
Currently replaying right now and having such a fun time going through it again. Its the best dark fantasy game ever.
I always thought the statue to depict the beast men being given intelligence by most likely someone gloam eye adjacent with all the dead beastmen and urns with ashes around.
I will give my 5 cents here. This is just an opinion and has no factual base, just pure speculation based on the lore we already know.
"Maliketh is the loyal Shadowbound Beast and half-brother of Queen Marika the Eternal" (took from fandom page). Almost the same as Blaidd for Ranni.
The statue, based on its physical detais, can also relate to Miquella, based in other statues found in halightree and also as we suspect in the dlc poster.
However, since maliketh was loyal to Marika and he was placed right in front of this statue, I think it is Marika herself.
If I'm not mistaken Maliketh being called Marika's half brother seems to be a translation error, in the original Japanese I think he was referred to as sworn sword or adopted brother
@@davisiotta489Yes, I think its the same case as Blaidd, like, "were raised together"
I thought is was queen Marika surrounded by wolves and the wolves simply personify 3 realms. The shadow lands, the lands between, and whatever the lands between is potentially between. Because I think the name of the base games location is sus.
*Divine Towers*,
Really believe it's been a huge hint to the DLC since day one.
The Erdtree is all shadowed/blocked out at each divine tower. Gives off the impression that something is over top of it. Always assumed it was some graphical error but now I believe the look of the Erdtree at the Towers is intentional.
But it seems that the Land of Shadows and the giant veils were visually written into the lore since release.
I apologize if there is a different but similar comment from me. I don't see that it saved.
Could be. Miyazaki did say it didnt add onto anything just told an untold story
Does the erdtree only look that way from divine towers? I think it just looks that way in allot of places
I think the Erdtree only looks that way when seen from Limgrave and Liurnia's Divine Bridges and Divine Towers.
Hello,
Just so you know, i've made i discovered on Morgott Great tower near the main city were not only this tower is guard by 2 omens + dropping the ash of war of the omen's hunter. But the tower in itself is full of snakes motives + double helix. Does this tower is related to DLC with mesmer or crucible aspect in any way ? In the same way you can get what i think is Melina's daggers really near place with interesting item description. I now think that Mesmer, Melina, Omens are all related one way or another.
I’ll take another look at it