Vladimir Harkonnen Origins - Dune's Most Sadistic, Ruthless, And Malevolent Character - Explored

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  • @sunnsupreme
    @sunnsupreme Рік тому +52

    Somehow...Marvelous Videos has tapped into the recesses of my brain and used it to make their channel. I say this because they seem to cover almost every pop culture niche that I personally have enjoyed over the course of my life. From martial arts movies, to comics, to horror anthologies...it's scary how spot on they are with my interests lol

    • @That80sGuy1972
      @That80sGuy1972 Рік тому +5

      I feel that. I guess that's why I subscribed. It's a crime that their thumbs-ups are so low compared to other channels. I suspect that it's because they might just be relatively new compared to them.

  • @andrewbird8866
    @andrewbird8866 Рік тому +89

    To quote The Baron : "Never trust a traitor... even one you create. "

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +75

    In the later books . It's speculated that the baron gains weight intentionally as a ding of power and to inspire disgust . , and he pleasure in disturbing people. Also a sign of his greed . He is like jabba the hut , he is do powerful he doesn't need to move. , he also got a kick out of . Forcing beautiful people to be with his grotesque. ( beauty and the beast)

    • @theonlymatthew.l
      @theonlymatthew.l Рік тому +19

      If you go with the books by the original author, you are correct. If you go by the bastardization novels that Herbert's son wrote and that this channel seems to love, then he was infected by a Reverend Mother....

    • @GeeNoniGee
      @GeeNoniGee 6 місяців тому +2

      Thank you both, for I thought my memory was slipping, lol! I was thinking, "Were they BOTH, though?", but the original, it was a VERY deliberate thing.

    • @shanenolan5625
      @shanenolan5625 6 місяців тому

      Yes but in the old books / encyclopedia. Reverend mother mohiam is Jessica's mother as well . But its a dark family secret. Leto mentioned the name of Jessica's mother in god emporer. But it was an assumed name . .

    • @Greenalex89
      @Greenalex89 Місяць тому

      Idk. In the original books its clear that he was infected/manipulated by a bene gesserit after he raped her or something. She got her revenge by "cursing" his body. I think speculating further than the original books doesnt go anywhere of significance.
      So it wasnt his choice and probably the sole reason why he hates the bene gesserit that much. He had excellent genes and pretty much looked like Feyd Rautha when he was young. Thats why the bene gesserit wanted his sperm for their breeding program. Its all logical connected in the original books, so I wouldnt speculate with the later books.

    • @shanenolan5625
      @shanenolan5625 Місяць тому

      @@Greenalex89 that's in the extended Brian Herbert books , he is the father in the original Canon, the baron sampled many pleasures in his youth, and once allowed himself to be seduced, ( by a woman) ,
      Duncan and moneo discussed the baron in God emporer,

  • @davidbradley6040
    @davidbradley6040 Рік тому +37

    the spice does not fold space,it enables navigators to foresee obstacles in the flightpath.

    • @BongoWongoOG
      @BongoWongoOG 6 місяців тому +2

      As they don't have computer technology to do this

    • @waragainstmyself1159
      @waragainstmyself1159 6 місяців тому

      Yes. No A.I. ​@@BongoWongoOG

    • @Errtuabyss
      @Errtuabyss 6 місяців тому +1

      @@BongoWongoOG Well.. until book 5 that is 😉

  • @MrBynwah
    @MrBynwah 9 місяців тому +23

    In the prequel novels he is made sick after assaulting Mohiam and that's why he starts putting on weight. Once he realizes that he won't find a cure he starts acting like a glutton to create an image that he decided to be fat because he didn't want anyone to know it was inflicted upon him. He was very vain before he was infected, that was why Mohiam chose that disease to give him, she knew it would strike at the heart of his vanity. The Bene Gesserit keep a few diseases latent through their control over thier bodies so that they can infect people if they need to. Biological weapons and atomics were strictly taboo but by carrying the sicknesses in their systems the Sisterhood could get around it because no one knew they had such control over their bodies they could cure themselves of pretty much any illness

  • @sectorgovernor
    @sectorgovernor Рік тому +41

    The Baron was clearly sadist, but Piter was even more sadistic meanwhile Rabban was more bloodthirsty than him.

    • @shanenolan5625
      @shanenolan5625 Рік тому

      Yes, Piter and the baron are sadistic. Rabban . Yes, it is bloodthirsty or a brute. Although I suspect he enjoys the pain of others, he oversaw all the slaves owed by house harkonen, I believe. And enjoys whipping people.

    • @doomy330
      @doomy330 Рік тому +5

      Rabban was a brute, maybe lesser of a threat for it. Piter if i remember was already addicted to some substance before meeting the Harkonnens. however Feyd scared me the most, he had the potential to be worse than the baron even if not exactly blood related

    • @ericgardner3140
      @ericgardner3140 Рік тому +3

      That's why they called him "The Beast" Rabban

    • @martiedoherty5765
      @martiedoherty5765 Рік тому +3

      Not in the original books though.

    • @shanenolan5625
      @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +1

      @@martiedoherty5765 are you speaking about rabban ( in the original books ) ?

  • @ernestgary6812
    @ernestgary6812 Рік тому +15

    Im 40, and have never heard of dune... when i watched the new movie on HBO out the blue.... i was fucking BLOWN AWAY

    • @cameronbennett9586
      @cameronbennett9586 Рік тому +5

      Dude, it goes DEEEP. Read the books too! Welcome!

    • @twilightsunset
      @twilightsunset 7 місяців тому +1

      Paul is a hero!!!!

    • @roadsidebong6333
      @roadsidebong6333 5 місяців тому

      The 1984 one is good because it a had good scene of the navigator which they failed twice now to portrait in the new movies, there is little way to understand any of the movies without studying the lore, the universe is too complex for movies to explain much of whats going on politicaly, Its like trying to make game of thrones as 2.5 hour movies. They also dont explain well the secret fighting style of paul except kinda when he fights feyd, he does like a horizontal spin. In 1984 they adapted his special style into a secret sonic weapon that wasnt part of the books- they shout maudib into a microphone thar causes explosions, but the true style is used in melee combat- the fremen are impressed by. Look up dune weirding way.

  • @joeladeroute8663
    @joeladeroute8663 6 місяців тому +5

    The house rivalry was started when the Harkonnens fled an ancient battlefield and the atredies called them cowards.

  • @dustinnadeau5151
    @dustinnadeau5151 6 місяців тому +4

    I was absolutely scared and nauseated by the baron in the 84 original... used to have nightmares about an evil floating screaming fat man!

  • @thugix
    @thugix Рік тому +34

    He didn't just molest slaves; he preferred young boys/teens. It is also mentioned he found Paul attractive. He was almost assassinated by a male sex slave, that's why he had his nephew Feyd Rutha kill his harem for the plot. Of course this isn't PC so shouldn't be mentioned in a 30+ min about the Baron.

    • @moviegurl7420
      @moviegurl7420 Рік тому +10

      Thank you . I’m like so we just leap frog around the fact he was a pedo

    • @sigma80
      @sigma80 Рік тому

      He is a central character but only made it through one book before being killed.
      The fact he was Alia's Grandfather and took her over is not him being around.
      The Fremen destroyed the Harkonans by the time Alia went insane.

    • @acheronnchase6220
      @acheronnchase6220 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, he was on the fence about killing Paul because he wanted him sexually ….he conveyed his disappointment but he realized that he needed to destroy the entire house so that the landsradt wouldn’t find out and rally behind Paul

    • @allthingsnerd.4484
      @allthingsnerd.4484 10 місяців тому +2

      It was definitely implied in Lynch’s film and definitely shown in the SciFi miniseries, albeit in a PG sort of way. The cultural climate being what it is right now, I doubt it will be included in part 2 of Villeneuve’s film.

  • @po5100
    @po5100 Рік тому +9

    Expert Level Character! Thanks for the content guys!

  • @chrisorcsi7149
    @chrisorcsi7149 Рік тому +9

    Vladimir Harkonnen looks like a white Abdullah The Butcher.

  • @AYEcorolla
    @AYEcorolla Рік тому +5

    They really toned him down for the movie.

  • @Greenalex89
    @Greenalex89 Місяць тому +1

    The Vladimir Harkonnen from the books was described as extremely fat, barely able to even open his eyes in his baby face. He had no twisted face features, he would have been too fat to see any jaw or bone twists. And he is by far the most sinister, evil, vicious and sadistic fictional villian Ive ever seen/read about.

  • @mikepryor7467
    @mikepryor7467 Рік тому +6

    damn john wick and dune lore in one day. what a day to be alive

  • @davemoser8908
    @davemoser8908 Рік тому +11

    Hark-oh-nen. Damnit.

    • @verahamoen2742
      @verahamoen2742 7 місяців тому

      I thought I was the only one who went berserk over this haha.

    • @Gaybraham.Lincoln
      @Gaybraham.Lincoln 6 місяців тому +1

      The author stated that he didn't give af about pronunciation so why are you so important?

    • @dustinnadeau5151
      @dustinnadeau5151 6 місяців тому

      I know right! It's so distracting to hear it mispronounced

  • @johngreene7130
    @johngreene7130 7 місяців тому +2

    I read he took Jessica's mother by force, G.A.M bene gesserit...and she punished him by giving him diseases she had carried and chose to use.

    • @omarscarborough4274
      @omarscarborough4274 6 місяців тому

      He was blackmailed into conceiving a child with Helen. He was disguised by being a gay man. When Helen returned to conceive another child he assaulted her as payback. She retaliated by giving him an incurable disease.

  • @znotch87
    @znotch87 Рік тому +7

    Adaption? The empire is a figure? tyrinnical? Descraptions? His feud is feeled? House Harnoken? Abonimation? Errekiss?

  • @bobshackley3630
    @bobshackley3630 Рік тому +6

    Fantastic video!

  • @Sincere281
    @Sincere281 6 місяців тому +1

    Crazy how harkonnen hate the Atraties when they have fought side by side during multiple wars agonist other houses

  • @chrisrapelstapskirappe5367
    @chrisrapelstapskirappe5367 Рік тому +4

    I like how he reads like old news /war reel

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +4

    Oh, I believe he was a master chess player in his youth and a talented singer. And he murdered his mother.

  • @billcox8870
    @billcox8870 Рік тому +9

    Why do you guys continually horribly butcher names?

    • @Gaybraham.Lincoln
      @Gaybraham.Lincoln 6 місяців тому

      Oh no. Poor guy. Why don't you apply for a full refund?

  • @fastfreddy918
    @fastfreddy918 6 місяців тому +1

    I think the Baron looks like Darth Vader. Without the mask obviously. 9:01

  • @simonsmith7251
    @simonsmith7251 Рік тому +1

    Great video, thanks.... I love the Dune story since reading the books..... I hope that the second film this year investigates the place that women cannot go the key to Paul's ultimate power.

  • @brockdavid
    @brockdavid Рік тому +5

    Ian McNeice played up an awesome portrayal of Baron Harkonnen. The miniseries is still my favorite, the new one has big shoes to still fill.

  • @relevare33
    @relevare33 Рік тому +5

    Does AI write the scripts for your content?

    • @justingibson1629
      @justingibson1629 Рік тому +3

      I think that's the majority of this type of content now unfortunately.

  • @millsykooksy4863
    @millsykooksy4863 6 місяців тому +1

    the baron in the 80's movie was so disgusting, it was hard to watch

  • @bizzybrown5701
    @bizzybrown5701 6 місяців тому +1

    Crazy how Oscar Isaac kind of stays in the sand …Apocalypse , Moon Knight, Poe Dameron . And how he went from a Spice runner to a Spice manager . Lmao

  • @ndhickson3599
    @ndhickson3599 6 місяців тому +1

    Damn I don’t recall this episode of My 600lb Life

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
    @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 6 місяців тому +2

    Each Great House would want to kill the Harkonnens. 😂

  • @gridlock7425
    @gridlock7425 Рік тому +10

    an infinity?
    AFFINITY

    • @shanenolan5625
      @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +2

      I think it's a text to voice. ( AI ) program.

  • @juggernaught79
    @juggernaught79 6 місяців тому +2

    Hearing the name pronounced Harkinin……ugh

  • @soulreaver1983
    @soulreaver1983 Рік тому +5

    Excellent video many thanks

  • @capincrunch1184
    @capincrunch1184 6 місяців тому +1

    You would think the emperor would go against the Harkenen but I guess he was betting against their incompetence compared to Latos competence and following of all other families

    • @Kwisatz-Chaderach
      @Kwisatz-Chaderach 6 місяців тому +1

      The Emeperor wasn't scared of the Baron, he could deal with him. Duke Leto was getting too popular within the Landsraad and had been building up his military.

  • @RBickersjr
    @RBickersjr Рік тому +2

    It's hard for me to hear you pronounce his name without the hard O in it. Not this right or wrong, it's just it's already been ingrained in my head that way. LOL

  • @sanbollat_6816
    @sanbollat_6816 8 місяців тому +1

    I didn’t know that the Harkonnens were actually called the “Harknens”, thanks !!

  • @SaturnGrl
    @SaturnGrl Рік тому +10

    HAR-KOH-NEN. Not Har-Keh-nen.

    • @roadsidebong6333
      @roadsidebong6333 5 місяців тому

      I thought same until i heard some chars in 2 say harkehnen

  • @colinbeams5467
    @colinbeams5467 Рік тому +1

    You sound like the voice actor that voiced Piter in the audiobook book of Dune.

  • @davidcase8635
    @davidcase8635 Рік тому +1

    Baron Harkonnen in the Dune 2021 movie almost resembles Reverend Sullivan Knoth, the sadistic and zealous cult leader of the Testament of the New Ezekiel, the fanatical tyrant of Temple Gate in the rural Arizona desert, and one of the main villains of Outlast 2.

    • @taryncao8089
      @taryncao8089 Рік тому +1

      All fat philosophers clad in simple black clothes are based on Colonel Kurtz form Apocalypse now. Extra points if they’re bald

  • @balthazarasquith
    @balthazarasquith Рік тому +1

    What a marvellous video Marvelous Videos

  • @gavinvick3592
    @gavinvick3592 Рік тому +1

    I always believed the line of logic of “I’m gonna destroy my enemy with this plan” plan doesn’t work, lots of people die “eeerrrrrgggg our plan failed, now we must get revenge” is so stupid but also hilarious, like Mfer you started this shit lmao

  • @HybridMarco
    @HybridMarco Рік тому

    The quality of your content is awesome but there is something about the background music that doesn't add your demeanor and complexity of topic

  • @matheoustargaryen
    @matheoustargaryen Рік тому +2

    Not ONE mention of the battle of Corinn! Thats where the true hatred comes from. An a
    Atreides banished a Harkonnen at the battle for cowardice I think, I forget the reason but that's where the feud comes from. Fuck

    • @macruz8503
      @macruz8503 5 місяців тому

      @matheous: Relax bro!

  • @billygates7617
    @billygates7617 Рік тому +4

    House Heineken is so wild

  • @Pugiron
    @Pugiron 8 місяців тому +2

    thumbs down for never pronouncing the name correctly once.

  • @padistedor
    @padistedor Рік тому +2

    Another video said his lower half was a sandworm. Now I don’t know what to think.

    • @Kwisatz-Chaderach
      @Kwisatz-Chaderach 6 місяців тому

      He just has a long robe. He floats because he's too fn fat to move.

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +2

    Thanks

  • @tubian323
    @tubian323 5 місяців тому

    The thumbnail looks like John Goodman.

  • @immortaljanus
    @immortaljanus Рік тому +1

    That's Meatloaf on the thumbnail...

  • @TheKeyser94
    @TheKeyser94 Рік тому +1

    Why you use footage from the movie? To this date, the miniseries version is the most accurate version that is ever portrayed, and most of the Dune fans had become wary of the movie, because is devoid of any world building and context, as barren as the Star Wars sequels.

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +3

    I think he is supposed to be just over 400 pounds.

    • @vaeringjar1387
      @vaeringjar1387 Рік тому

      Yup, he's stated as being 200 standard kilos in the novel, so around 440 pounds. He's a big boy.

    • @bloodysimile4893
      @bloodysimile4893 11 місяців тому

      He fat.

  • @FIDDLESHORTS
    @FIDDLESHORTS Рік тому

    Is this a version of Pyter from the audiobooks???

  • @thehillbillygamer2183
    @thehillbillygamer2183 Рік тому

    Tell the Reverend mother put a mental suggestion to make him eat all the time what is physically wrong it was just in his mind

  • @KIRA-EL
    @KIRA-EL 6 місяців тому

    Man the 80s version gave him these gross oozing pustules on a skin I would have liked to see some of that for this film version other than that love it

  • @brandonjohnson2493
    @brandonjohnson2493 Рік тому +1

    From your description you made it sound like the baron hated the Atreides because they were asked to oversee the spice duties on arrakis, that’s not the case, the Atreides family ruled over caladan and the dude began before that.

    • @sigma80
      @sigma80 Рік тому

      A long ago Duke Atreides public showed a Baron as a total coward publicly, and humiliating the Harkonan clan.
      The hatred of the Atredies long precedes the move to Dune. The Emperor was scared of Duke Leto because he was afraid he'd take his throne from him with his popularity, so supported the Baron Vladmir secretly to get rid of Leto.
      Dune was a "trap" for the Duke, and was used to destroy House Attredies.
      That didn't work our so well for the Emperor of course.

  • @OwenBroadhurst
    @OwenBroadhurst 10 місяців тому +2

    No, he never had sexual relations with Mohiam. Brian's fanfic is an insult to his father's memory

  • @Lordlt82
    @Lordlt82 Рік тому +2

    I love this channel for fiction origins I had to stop watching comics explained when he mixed politics into his content.

  • @chichiboypumpi
    @chichiboypumpi Рік тому

    I reckon the Ordos origins stems back to the xixipigs.

  • @budgiefriend
    @budgiefriend 6 місяців тому

    House Harnokken?

  • @JT-si6bl
    @JT-si6bl 6 місяців тому

    Pretty much Sith, no?#
    I wonder in this world, who would he be...

  • @goodanytimej8688
    @goodanytimej8688 Рік тому +2

    How many different ways can u say Har-koh-nan wrong? Harkinin, harnikin, harkenin? Jesus man

  • @kevinbourke1847
    @kevinbourke1847 Рік тому

    Great 👍

  • @peachmelba1000
    @peachmelba1000 5 місяців тому +2

    Adaption is not a word. AI voiceover sucks.

  • @placeholder3853
    @placeholder3853 6 місяців тому

    Hes just misunderstood

  • @SmallPaul.
    @SmallPaul. 8 місяців тому

    What have They done to there bodies are they still human why is there skin pale

  • @channel-7848
    @channel-7848 7 місяців тому

    House Harnokan

  • @ThePhysicalReaction
    @ThePhysicalReaction Рік тому +1

    Also the president of Lucas film

  • @upgrade1015
    @upgrade1015 Рік тому

    Jabba the hut is a trope

  • @MegaCyberleader
    @MegaCyberleader Рік тому

    huh kinda sounds likes most of our poitions in america

  • @goodanytimej8688
    @goodanytimej8688 Рік тому

    Harkinin

  • @Roni62
    @Roni62 Рік тому +7

    tRump

  • @BaronFeydRautha
    @BaronFeydRautha Рік тому +2

    I can't stand how stupid The Baron is in Denis' Dune.

    • @tessierashpoolmg7776
      @tessierashpoolmg7776 Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately pt1 was the Lynch plot line with up to date eye candy. DV better come with a nuke for pt2.

    • @BaronFeydRautha
      @BaronFeydRautha Рік тому

      @@tessierashpoolmg7776 I don't think he did a good job sticking with the source material. You are right. All the good shots were basically stolen from the Lynch Dune.
      Then there's the Keynes gender swap that was pointless and only done to insert modern day ideologies of women. Which ruins the Fremen culture as well as the Fishspeakers of Leto II.

  • @Hunterphenia
    @Hunterphenia 22 дні тому

    Video sucks. Content is good. Do better bruh

  • @sharonlavery7656
    @sharonlavery7656 Рік тому

    Its almost like he's describing war criminal Putin, except for the fat part hahaha

  • @apexpredator9163
    @apexpredator9163 Рік тому +3

    48mins ago. Damn i was early for this one

  • @hackett152332
    @hackett152332 9 місяців тому +2

    He’s basically your average American

    • @paulatreides0777
      @paulatreides0777 6 місяців тому

      Yep all that genetically modified wheat and pesticides makes for one very sickly population

    • @dustinnadeau5151
      @dustinnadeau5151 6 місяців тому

      Apparently where you live...