Somehow...Marvelous Videos has tapped into the recesses of my brain and used it to make their channel. I say this because they seem to cover almost every pop culture niche that I personally have enjoyed over the course of my life. From martial arts movies, to comics, to horror anthologies...it's scary how spot on they are with my interests lol
I feel that. I guess that's why I subscribed. It's a crime that their thumbs-ups are so low compared to other channels. I suspect that it's because they might just be relatively new compared to them.
In the later books . It's speculated that the baron gains weight intentionally as a ding of power and to inspire disgust . , and he pleasure in disturbing people. Also a sign of his greed . He is like jabba the hut , he is do powerful he doesn't need to move. , he also got a kick out of . Forcing beautiful people to be with his grotesque. ( beauty and the beast)
If you go with the books by the original author, you are correct. If you go by the bastardization novels that Herbert's son wrote and that this channel seems to love, then he was infected by a Reverend Mother....
Thank you both, for I thought my memory was slipping, lol! I was thinking, "Were they BOTH, though?", but the original, it was a VERY deliberate thing.
Yes but in the old books / encyclopedia. Reverend mother mohiam is Jessica's mother as well . But its a dark family secret. Leto mentioned the name of Jessica's mother in god emporer. But it was an assumed name . .
Idk. In the original books its clear that he was infected/manipulated by a bene gesserit after he raped her or something. She got her revenge by "cursing" his body. I think speculating further than the original books doesnt go anywhere of significance. So it wasnt his choice and probably the sole reason why he hates the bene gesserit that much. He had excellent genes and pretty much looked like Feyd Rautha when he was young. Thats why the bene gesserit wanted his sperm for their breeding program. Its all logical connected in the original books, so I wouldnt speculate with the later books.
@@Greenalex89 that's in the extended Brian Herbert books , he is the father in the original Canon, the baron sampled many pleasures in his youth, and once allowed himself to be seduced, ( by a woman) , Duncan and moneo discussed the baron in God emporer,
In the prequel novels he is made sick after assaulting Mohiam and that's why he starts putting on weight. Once he realizes that he won't find a cure he starts acting like a glutton to create an image that he decided to be fat because he didn't want anyone to know it was inflicted upon him. He was very vain before he was infected, that was why Mohiam chose that disease to give him, she knew it would strike at the heart of his vanity. The Bene Gesserit keep a few diseases latent through their control over thier bodies so that they can infect people if they need to. Biological weapons and atomics were strictly taboo but by carrying the sicknesses in their systems the Sisterhood could get around it because no one knew they had such control over their bodies they could cure themselves of pretty much any illness
Yes, Piter and the baron are sadistic. Rabban . Yes, it is bloodthirsty or a brute. Although I suspect he enjoys the pain of others, he oversaw all the slaves owed by house harkonen, I believe. And enjoys whipping people.
Rabban was a brute, maybe lesser of a threat for it. Piter if i remember was already addicted to some substance before meeting the Harkonnens. however Feyd scared me the most, he had the potential to be worse than the baron even if not exactly blood related
The 1984 one is good because it a had good scene of the navigator which they failed twice now to portrait in the new movies, there is little way to understand any of the movies without studying the lore, the universe is too complex for movies to explain much of whats going on politicaly, Its like trying to make game of thrones as 2.5 hour movies. They also dont explain well the secret fighting style of paul except kinda when he fights feyd, he does like a horizontal spin. In 1984 they adapted his special style into a secret sonic weapon that wasnt part of the books- they shout maudib into a microphone thar causes explosions, but the true style is used in melee combat- the fremen are impressed by. Look up dune weirding way.
He didn't just molest slaves; he preferred young boys/teens. It is also mentioned he found Paul attractive. He was almost assassinated by a male sex slave, that's why he had his nephew Feyd Rutha kill his harem for the plot. Of course this isn't PC so shouldn't be mentioned in a 30+ min about the Baron.
He is a central character but only made it through one book before being killed. The fact he was Alia's Grandfather and took her over is not him being around. The Fremen destroyed the Harkonans by the time Alia went insane.
Yeah, he was on the fence about killing Paul because he wanted him sexually ….he conveyed his disappointment but he realized that he needed to destroy the entire house so that the landsradt wouldn’t find out and rally behind Paul
It was definitely implied in Lynch’s film and definitely shown in the SciFi miniseries, albeit in a PG sort of way. The cultural climate being what it is right now, I doubt it will be included in part 2 of Villeneuve’s film.
The Vladimir Harkonnen from the books was described as extremely fat, barely able to even open his eyes in his baby face. He had no twisted face features, he would have been too fat to see any jaw or bone twists. And he is by far the most sinister, evil, vicious and sadistic fictional villian Ive ever seen/read about.
He was blackmailed into conceiving a child with Helen. He was disguised by being a gay man. When Helen returned to conceive another child he assaulted her as payback. She retaliated by giving him an incurable disease.
Great video, thanks.... I love the Dune story since reading the books..... I hope that the second film this year investigates the place that women cannot go the key to Paul's ultimate power.
You would think the emperor would go against the Harkenen but I guess he was betting against their incompetence compared to Latos competence and following of all other families
The Emeperor wasn't scared of the Baron, he could deal with him. Duke Leto was getting too popular within the Landsraad and had been building up his military.
It's hard for me to hear you pronounce his name without the hard O in it. Not this right or wrong, it's just it's already been ingrained in my head that way. LOL
Baron Harkonnen in the Dune 2021 movie almost resembles Reverend Sullivan Knoth, the sadistic and zealous cult leader of the Testament of the New Ezekiel, the fanatical tyrant of Temple Gate in the rural Arizona desert, and one of the main villains of Outlast 2.
I always believed the line of logic of “I’m gonna destroy my enemy with this plan” plan doesn’t work, lots of people die “eeerrrrrgggg our plan failed, now we must get revenge” is so stupid but also hilarious, like Mfer you started this shit lmao
Not ONE mention of the battle of Corinn! Thats where the true hatred comes from. An a Atreides banished a Harkonnen at the battle for cowardice I think, I forget the reason but that's where the feud comes from. Fuck
Why you use footage from the movie? To this date, the miniseries version is the most accurate version that is ever portrayed, and most of the Dune fans had become wary of the movie, because is devoid of any world building and context, as barren as the Star Wars sequels.
Man the 80s version gave him these gross oozing pustules on a skin I would have liked to see some of that for this film version other than that love it
From your description you made it sound like the baron hated the Atreides because they were asked to oversee the spice duties on arrakis, that’s not the case, the Atreides family ruled over caladan and the dude began before that.
A long ago Duke Atreides public showed a Baron as a total coward publicly, and humiliating the Harkonan clan. The hatred of the Atredies long precedes the move to Dune. The Emperor was scared of Duke Leto because he was afraid he'd take his throne from him with his popularity, so supported the Baron Vladmir secretly to get rid of Leto. Dune was a "trap" for the Duke, and was used to destroy House Attredies. That didn't work our so well for the Emperor of course.
@@tessierashpoolmg7776 I don't think he did a good job sticking with the source material. You are right. All the good shots were basically stolen from the Lynch Dune. Then there's the Keynes gender swap that was pointless and only done to insert modern day ideologies of women. Which ruins the Fremen culture as well as the Fishspeakers of Leto II.
Somehow...Marvelous Videos has tapped into the recesses of my brain and used it to make their channel. I say this because they seem to cover almost every pop culture niche that I personally have enjoyed over the course of my life. From martial arts movies, to comics, to horror anthologies...it's scary how spot on they are with my interests lol
I feel that. I guess that's why I subscribed. It's a crime that their thumbs-ups are so low compared to other channels. I suspect that it's because they might just be relatively new compared to them.
To quote The Baron : "Never trust a traitor... even one you create. "
In the later books . It's speculated that the baron gains weight intentionally as a ding of power and to inspire disgust . , and he pleasure in disturbing people. Also a sign of his greed . He is like jabba the hut , he is do powerful he doesn't need to move. , he also got a kick out of . Forcing beautiful people to be with his grotesque. ( beauty and the beast)
If you go with the books by the original author, you are correct. If you go by the bastardization novels that Herbert's son wrote and that this channel seems to love, then he was infected by a Reverend Mother....
Thank you both, for I thought my memory was slipping, lol! I was thinking, "Were they BOTH, though?", but the original, it was a VERY deliberate thing.
Yes but in the old books / encyclopedia. Reverend mother mohiam is Jessica's mother as well . But its a dark family secret. Leto mentioned the name of Jessica's mother in god emporer. But it was an assumed name . .
Idk. In the original books its clear that he was infected/manipulated by a bene gesserit after he raped her or something. She got her revenge by "cursing" his body. I think speculating further than the original books doesnt go anywhere of significance.
So it wasnt his choice and probably the sole reason why he hates the bene gesserit that much. He had excellent genes and pretty much looked like Feyd Rautha when he was young. Thats why the bene gesserit wanted his sperm for their breeding program. Its all logical connected in the original books, so I wouldnt speculate with the later books.
@@Greenalex89 that's in the extended Brian Herbert books , he is the father in the original Canon, the baron sampled many pleasures in his youth, and once allowed himself to be seduced, ( by a woman) ,
Duncan and moneo discussed the baron in God emporer,
the spice does not fold space,it enables navigators to foresee obstacles in the flightpath.
As they don't have computer technology to do this
Yes. No A.I. @@BongoWongoOG
@@BongoWongoOG Well.. until book 5 that is 😉
In the prequel novels he is made sick after assaulting Mohiam and that's why he starts putting on weight. Once he realizes that he won't find a cure he starts acting like a glutton to create an image that he decided to be fat because he didn't want anyone to know it was inflicted upon him. He was very vain before he was infected, that was why Mohiam chose that disease to give him, she knew it would strike at the heart of his vanity. The Bene Gesserit keep a few diseases latent through their control over thier bodies so that they can infect people if they need to. Biological weapons and atomics were strictly taboo but by carrying the sicknesses in their systems the Sisterhood could get around it because no one knew they had such control over their bodies they could cure themselves of pretty much any illness
The Baron was clearly sadist, but Piter was even more sadistic meanwhile Rabban was more bloodthirsty than him.
Yes, Piter and the baron are sadistic. Rabban . Yes, it is bloodthirsty or a brute. Although I suspect he enjoys the pain of others, he oversaw all the slaves owed by house harkonen, I believe. And enjoys whipping people.
Rabban was a brute, maybe lesser of a threat for it. Piter if i remember was already addicted to some substance before meeting the Harkonnens. however Feyd scared me the most, he had the potential to be worse than the baron even if not exactly blood related
That's why they called him "The Beast" Rabban
Not in the original books though.
@@martiedoherty5765 are you speaking about rabban ( in the original books ) ?
Im 40, and have never heard of dune... when i watched the new movie on HBO out the blue.... i was fucking BLOWN AWAY
Dude, it goes DEEEP. Read the books too! Welcome!
Paul is a hero!!!!
The 1984 one is good because it a had good scene of the navigator which they failed twice now to portrait in the new movies, there is little way to understand any of the movies without studying the lore, the universe is too complex for movies to explain much of whats going on politicaly, Its like trying to make game of thrones as 2.5 hour movies. They also dont explain well the secret fighting style of paul except kinda when he fights feyd, he does like a horizontal spin. In 1984 they adapted his special style into a secret sonic weapon that wasnt part of the books- they shout maudib into a microphone thar causes explosions, but the true style is used in melee combat- the fremen are impressed by. Look up dune weirding way.
The house rivalry was started when the Harkonnens fled an ancient battlefield and the atredies called them cowards.
I was absolutely scared and nauseated by the baron in the 84 original... used to have nightmares about an evil floating screaming fat man!
He didn't just molest slaves; he preferred young boys/teens. It is also mentioned he found Paul attractive. He was almost assassinated by a male sex slave, that's why he had his nephew Feyd Rutha kill his harem for the plot. Of course this isn't PC so shouldn't be mentioned in a 30+ min about the Baron.
Thank you . I’m like so we just leap frog around the fact he was a pedo
He is a central character but only made it through one book before being killed.
The fact he was Alia's Grandfather and took her over is not him being around.
The Fremen destroyed the Harkonans by the time Alia went insane.
Yeah, he was on the fence about killing Paul because he wanted him sexually ….he conveyed his disappointment but he realized that he needed to destroy the entire house so that the landsradt wouldn’t find out and rally behind Paul
It was definitely implied in Lynch’s film and definitely shown in the SciFi miniseries, albeit in a PG sort of way. The cultural climate being what it is right now, I doubt it will be included in part 2 of Villeneuve’s film.
Expert Level Character! Thanks for the content guys!
Vladimir Harkonnen looks like a white Abdullah The Butcher.
They really toned him down for the movie.
The Vladimir Harkonnen from the books was described as extremely fat, barely able to even open his eyes in his baby face. He had no twisted face features, he would have been too fat to see any jaw or bone twists. And he is by far the most sinister, evil, vicious and sadistic fictional villian Ive ever seen/read about.
damn john wick and dune lore in one day. what a day to be alive
Hark-oh-nen. Damnit.
I thought I was the only one who went berserk over this haha.
The author stated that he didn't give af about pronunciation so why are you so important?
I know right! It's so distracting to hear it mispronounced
I read he took Jessica's mother by force, G.A.M bene gesserit...and she punished him by giving him diseases she had carried and chose to use.
He was blackmailed into conceiving a child with Helen. He was disguised by being a gay man. When Helen returned to conceive another child he assaulted her as payback. She retaliated by giving him an incurable disease.
Adaption? The empire is a figure? tyrinnical? Descraptions? His feud is feeled? House Harnoken? Abonimation? Errekiss?
IKR? I’m a copy editor and this video gave me a headache. 😢
'Peddisha'
Fantastic video!
Crazy how harkonnen hate the Atraties when they have fought side by side during multiple wars agonist other houses
I like how he reads like old news /war reel
Oh, I believe he was a master chess player in his youth and a talented singer. And he murdered his mother.
Why do you guys continually horribly butcher names?
Oh no. Poor guy. Why don't you apply for a full refund?
I think the Baron looks like Darth Vader. Without the mask obviously. 9:01
Great video, thanks.... I love the Dune story since reading the books..... I hope that the second film this year investigates the place that women cannot go the key to Paul's ultimate power.
Ian McNeice played up an awesome portrayal of Baron Harkonnen. The miniseries is still my favorite, the new one has big shoes to still fill.
Does AI write the scripts for your content?
I think that's the majority of this type of content now unfortunately.
the baron in the 80's movie was so disgusting, it was hard to watch
Crazy how Oscar Isaac kind of stays in the sand …Apocalypse , Moon Knight, Poe Dameron . And how he went from a Spice runner to a Spice manager . Lmao
Damn I don’t recall this episode of My 600lb Life
Each Great House would want to kill the Harkonnens. 😂
an infinity?
AFFINITY
I think it's a text to voice. ( AI ) program.
Hearing the name pronounced Harkinin……ugh
Excellent video many thanks
You would think the emperor would go against the Harkenen but I guess he was betting against their incompetence compared to Latos competence and following of all other families
The Emeperor wasn't scared of the Baron, he could deal with him. Duke Leto was getting too popular within the Landsraad and had been building up his military.
It's hard for me to hear you pronounce his name without the hard O in it. Not this right or wrong, it's just it's already been ingrained in my head that way. LOL
I didn’t know that the Harkonnens were actually called the “Harknens”, thanks !!
HAR-KOH-NEN. Not Har-Keh-nen.
I thought same until i heard some chars in 2 say harkehnen
You sound like the voice actor that voiced Piter in the audiobook book of Dune.
Baron Harkonnen in the Dune 2021 movie almost resembles Reverend Sullivan Knoth, the sadistic and zealous cult leader of the Testament of the New Ezekiel, the fanatical tyrant of Temple Gate in the rural Arizona desert, and one of the main villains of Outlast 2.
All fat philosophers clad in simple black clothes are based on Colonel Kurtz form Apocalypse now. Extra points if they’re bald
What a marvellous video Marvelous Videos
I always believed the line of logic of “I’m gonna destroy my enemy with this plan” plan doesn’t work, lots of people die “eeerrrrrgggg our plan failed, now we must get revenge” is so stupid but also hilarious, like Mfer you started this shit lmao
The quality of your content is awesome but there is something about the background music that doesn't add your demeanor and complexity of topic
Not ONE mention of the battle of Corinn! Thats where the true hatred comes from. An a
Atreides banished a Harkonnen at the battle for cowardice I think, I forget the reason but that's where the feud comes from. Fuck
@matheous: Relax bro!
House Heineken is so wild
thumbs down for never pronouncing the name correctly once.
Another video said his lower half was a sandworm. Now I don’t know what to think.
He just has a long robe. He floats because he's too fn fat to move.
Thanks
The thumbnail looks like John Goodman.
That's Meatloaf on the thumbnail...
Why you use footage from the movie? To this date, the miniseries version is the most accurate version that is ever portrayed, and most of the Dune fans had become wary of the movie, because is devoid of any world building and context, as barren as the Star Wars sequels.
I think he is supposed to be just over 400 pounds.
Yup, he's stated as being 200 standard kilos in the novel, so around 440 pounds. He's a big boy.
He fat.
Is this a version of Pyter from the audiobooks???
Tell the Reverend mother put a mental suggestion to make him eat all the time what is physically wrong it was just in his mind
Man the 80s version gave him these gross oozing pustules on a skin I would have liked to see some of that for this film version other than that love it
From your description you made it sound like the baron hated the Atreides because they were asked to oversee the spice duties on arrakis, that’s not the case, the Atreides family ruled over caladan and the dude began before that.
A long ago Duke Atreides public showed a Baron as a total coward publicly, and humiliating the Harkonan clan.
The hatred of the Atredies long precedes the move to Dune. The Emperor was scared of Duke Leto because he was afraid he'd take his throne from him with his popularity, so supported the Baron Vladmir secretly to get rid of Leto.
Dune was a "trap" for the Duke, and was used to destroy House Attredies.
That didn't work our so well for the Emperor of course.
No, he never had sexual relations with Mohiam. Brian's fanfic is an insult to his father's memory
I love this channel for fiction origins I had to stop watching comics explained when he mixed politics into his content.
I reckon the Ordos origins stems back to the xixipigs.
House Harnokken?
Pretty much Sith, no?#
I wonder in this world, who would he be...
How many different ways can u say Har-koh-nan wrong? Harkinin, harnikin, harkenin? Jesus man
Great 👍
Adaption is not a word. AI voiceover sucks.
Hes just misunderstood
What have They done to there bodies are they still human why is there skin pale
House Harnokan
Also the president of Lucas film
Jabba the hut is a trope
huh kinda sounds likes most of our poitions in america
Harkinin
tRump
I can't stand how stupid The Baron is in Denis' Dune.
Unfortunately pt1 was the Lynch plot line with up to date eye candy. DV better come with a nuke for pt2.
@@tessierashpoolmg7776 I don't think he did a good job sticking with the source material. You are right. All the good shots were basically stolen from the Lynch Dune.
Then there's the Keynes gender swap that was pointless and only done to insert modern day ideologies of women. Which ruins the Fremen culture as well as the Fishspeakers of Leto II.
Video sucks. Content is good. Do better bruh
Its almost like he's describing war criminal Putin, except for the fat part hahaha
48mins ago. Damn i was early for this one
He’s basically your average American
Yep all that genetically modified wheat and pesticides makes for one very sickly population
Apparently where you live...