woah! lots of opinions about the warning at the beginning. each person’s gotta make their own choice about they interact with the situation. like I said, there are a lot of people who don’t want to hear Elliott’s voice anymore, especially associated to Tighnari. if the VO doesn’t bother you, all good! Just want to give people the choice. personally, I can’t hear his voice without thinking of all the horrifying screenshots I’ve seen on twitter. yes, the VA is not the character, but the association is there for me regardless. your opinions are just fine, what I won’t tolerate in my comment section is invalidation of the victims.
As someone who is struggling with their sexuality after being gaslit into thinking I was gay... The screenshots of what Elliot Gindi did on twitter brought back memories of physical abuse I didn't want to relive. Thank you for the warning Dish, my prayers are with all of the victims in this situation.
as you said at the beginning of the video about Tighnari VA , i’m absolutely disgusted, if i can say that, for what he did and i hope the victims can be happy again. That said, nice video about the Abyss and our queen Lisa
When the news first broke my initial thoughts were that, even if you were to give him the benefit of the doubt, he needs to be replaced and get help. I decided I could believe that with the information provided that maybe, just maybe, his apology was accurate and that he was genuinely going to step down and get help; that a step down from the position he abused would open up a path of healing for the victims and prevent further incidents. That changed very quickly when more information came out and it was clear his apology was fake on almost every point. All it took was one more person to do this, yet the number of victims who came out with their stories tripled in a matter of a few days. More messages were revealed and more manipulation was uncovered so quickly I could barely keep up. There is not one statement made by him that holds any ground at all anymore. At this point it seems almost like this was his plan all along before he even got any roles as a VA. I no longer think that him getting replaced and getting help would be sufficient for me, he's an outright criminal and needs to be arrested. I hope justice comes quickly and that his victims can find at least some peace with the result.
Agreed but i'm not going to let his voice bother me after all it's a video game Tighnari voice isn't the problem the voice actor is the issues and yes disgusting.
@@annaairahala9462 honestly, i always felt he was a little sus. i assume he was putting on an internet persona, maybe he did at one time but became so comfortable playing an asshole that he became an asshole, or maybe there never was a persona and he is always an asshole. i don't know, but it reinforce my dislike and red flag for sussy persona... but at the same time, i don't think the director or dish need to apologise for tighnari. no one can foresee this. and using tighnari is not an endorsement for the VA. but then i also don't play in english voice.
Fun fact about the "frog slowly boiling in water" thing, it actually does not work on normal frogs. the original guy who did the experiment, Friedrich Goltz, could only get a frog to stay in a slowly boiling pot if he removed its brains. Frogs with their brains still intact just jumped out when it got too hot lol
the warning just feels like a considerate thing to do, it's essentially just a trigger warning if you'd warn someone before discussing issues like self harm, suicide or sexual assault, why wouldn't you warn someone that they might hear the voice of a know predator? thank u ms dish, sending strength and serenity to fellow survivors
Honestly, I'm not one of the victims and I didn't have anything to do with that scumbag, but after this whole situation hearing his voice triggers sth in me. Like an anxiety... So I'm really glad dish put that warning at the beggining
Thanks for adding that message regarding Tighnari's voice actor. Could you imagine his voice being played by Zhongli's voice actor -- like a nerdy version of Zhongli.
maybe they can take the time to make Tighnari sound more like his Asian counterpart... Tighnari should feel very soft spoken. Zhongli VA is way too dominating
There’s rumors going around that he’ll be voiced by Bryce Papenbrook. Best to take it with a grain of salt. Personally, I’m not sure if Bryce would match Tighnari? Yes, he’s got the sass, but Tighnari is a mostly calm, soft-spoken character and Bryce’s voice is very distinct.
From the statement that they gave to news outlet they are trying to find one as quick as possible. It’s a lot to redo just hope they can get at least part of it done before 3.5!
Wouldn’t it be easier to just not use tighnari? I mean like I’m just saying switching the voice seems like a harder thing to do than benching him for a few monthsz
@@rainblue4789 I mean downloading a new voice pack literally just wastes space and especially if you plan on switching back once he gets a new VA. If you just bench him you don’t have a useless file sitting around.
Im so disgusted and upset by Tighnari's Eng VA. He was so perfect for tighnari but he ruined it. im so happy the victims spoke up cuz now he gets what he deserves. still i hope tighnari gets the VA he deserves. and im deeply sorry to every victim he had. i hope the best for you
Yeah he was in a great position - awesome character, awesome game, awesome fans - and he tossed it all in the trash. Nobody needed this treatment, especially not the victims.
It wasn’t that he ruined it.. he was always a bad person, he just hadn’t shown it yet. People don’t just do What he did out of the blue. It sickens me to think that so many people trusted this guy and admired his work, including myself, and never knew What he was really like until the victims started speaking up.. He was just a predator passing as human. He always had these sick, twisted thoughts and ideas, people just didn’t know until he was in a position that he could abuse to act on those thoughts. It’s just… sickening.
@@Da_Swifta So true. i tend to forget that people like this have always been a bad person. luckily hoyoverse are planning to give him a new En VA so i hope it helps the victims to know he isnt gonna be in the game soon
@@33melonpaws77 I feel so bad for the victims. especially before they spoke up because they saw him rise and it must have hurt. im happy they spoke up so we can all see how he is a terrible person
@@EyvvieVT Same, I imagine witnessing him get fame and praise would have made them feel isolated and burdened. I'm glad we found out what he did and lost all respect for him.
Thank you so much for the warning, as it really is quite triggering, that poor character's reputation is now quite ruined, and it's even more bad knowing what happened in real life, but regardless I do hope to those who were affected and its victims gets to heal and were fine to all of this... 💗 Also just the thumbnail but waah NPC La Signora is love, the closest thing will ever have at this point... 😭
Tighnaris reputation hasnt been ruined, Dish and many others just dont want to hear Eliot Gindis voice (and potentially trigger someone). Please learn how to seperate fictional characters and their VAs 🙌🏻
@@reynray6249 and all others! Of course, but inevitably speaking, it still and will have its negative connection no matter how hard we renounce and erase that fact and is now vulnerable to mostly anything bad about it too, just saying the sad reality of it is all... Real good thing though is that they're slowly but surely starting changing those, in which it already does In-Game, now I just need them to do the same thing in the Archon Quests, his Story Quests and other dialogues, to their promotional announcements at twt, and even change its youtube vids about it too... Then perhaps starting that, things might get better soon... 😔
Thanks for the warning, Dish! I main Tighnari but after everything came out, I haven’t been able to use him without thinking of all the disgusting things his VA did. I considered switching dubs but I really enjoy a lot of the English cast. It’s great that MHY are already in the process of finding someone else for him and phasing out his voicelines. I hope the victims of his abuse can find a little peace from this as they heal and hopefully soon he’ll face more serious consequences for his actions and the hurt he’s caused. Let’s support those who need their voices heard the best we can. ❤
After reading everything and watching things unfold on twitter, I feel absolutely disgusted by Elliot’s actions. My heart goes out to the victims and hope they can heal peacefully.
I honestly didn't even know that Elliot had done that until you said that. I looked into it more and I just want to say thank you for the warning and I am truly disgusted.
After being through something similar as the victims of tighnaris va i dont even wanna hear his name anymore i‘m so sorry for everyone he did this to and yall are brave for speaking up I wish you all nothing but the best
I'm proud of you for being open about it, and for being here, today. You made my day better reminding me there's people like you who've fought/fight everyday to stay alive. Hope you have a great day!
Thank you for the warning at the beginning! What Elliot did shocks me and I am absolutely disgusted that he took advantage of his fans like that. I pray for healing for all the victims. We stand with you.
early (14th) Happy valentine’s day, dish! and i’d like to say something regarding the situation with elliot - I hope all victims have a fast and smooth recovery. It’s heartbreaking to see somebody that people actually look up to ruin their own reputation like that. Happy valentines, let’s hope the new tighnari VA will know better.
the frog thing is that frogs adjust their body temperature based on the water they're in! their habitats are swamps and ponds and lakes so they have an ability to adjust their body temperature based on their surroundings. so the analogy of the boiling water vs slowly-heated water is true!
Thank you so much dish for the heads up! I’m 100% his VA will be completely replaced so we can all enjoy the character tighnari again. The VA isn’t tighnari but I completely understand how you feel and how others feel, so happy for the victims to stand up and not be afraid to speak out. Hopefully Mihoyo will replace him very very soon. Anyways thank you so much for this amazing video
transcript of the warning because some people were having a hard time seeing it: "Heads up, this video was filmed on February 1st, before news broke that the English voice actor for Tighnari, Elliot Gindi, had been engaging in [sexually] explicit and deeply manipulative conversations with minors. I know many people, including myself, no longer want to hear his voice, so this is a heads up that the English voiceover for the game was active during this abyss run and you will hear Tighnari [with Elliot Gindi's voice lines] a few times. I'm proud of the victims for coming forward and wish safety and healing for all of them."
9:22 I have the same thing! Finally theres someone else with this weird allergen problem. I love steamed carrots and broccoli but cant eat them raw either. I also cannot eat a lot of fruits like apples, cherries or bananas raw.
someone else in the comments mentioned something called PFAS! (Pollen Food Allergy Syndrome) -- they said it has a large spectrum of what foods you're affected by (fruits, vegetables, and some tree nuts) and what symptoms. It centers around raw food, so maybe look into it!! :)
@@wichiku That actually might be it. I looked into it and It says that you usually only develop this type of allergy at a teen age, which is when those allergies first started for me. Tysm for the info! I will look into it more, perhaps there is a way to desensitise against it.
I honestly cant even explain the sadness i felt from Elliott doing what he did, honestly, he was honestly one of my favorite streamers and i think i even watched his stream earlier that very same day the news came out. I dont think i'll ever truly be able to hate him, i feel shitty for his victims honestly but i dont think i'll ever completely be able to realise that he actually did that, that its the exact same person who voices one of my favorite characters, is part of my favorite cast and has some of the funniest interactions. But still i hate him from the bottom of my heart for what he caused to others, he said it himself, he was weak. I dont know whether or whether not hes going into therapy but i hope he gets everything back to the closest he can get to normal.
The guy needs to go to JAIL, not therapy. The screenshots that the victims have provided are absolutely disgusting and unforgivable. He is a danger to society who grooms little 12 year old girls one second and then threatens them and insults them the next.
I agree i do think he needs to go to jail, tho to be fair i havent been catching up to the latest and smaller details but from what i understood he rejected minors, the victims were adults. It was still disgusting blackmailing, manipulation and just downright the acts of a shitty person.
@skaryie yea, he confirmed the screenshots and multiple people were minors. Also the whole blackmailing thing wasn't great. At the time his statement was made, i think only one minor talked about it. But multiple people brought it up later
This is so sad to hear about Elliot man and I really did like him and tignarhi too but it was really wrong for him to do such things, I’m hoping he will realize this and become a better person.
i hate that the trigger warning was necessary (though it's very much appreciated). i main tighnari, and i haven't been able to use him since, not even after switching to a different language. i miss the english voices, and i miss tighnari, but i just can't bring myself to switch until they replace the voice actor. i almost wish they would just mute his english voice for now ;-;
Remember that Tighnari is not Elliot. Nari is just a bunch of pixels and Elliot's role as his voice actor is now the least important thing compared to what he did to real life people
@@Komachichuu in this whole situation people think too much about Tighnari and not enough what happened to living people. The option of changing languages is still there. And Elliot hurted people as Elliot
@@lorelikesthings Yes, I learnt it the hard way 😭 accidentally pushed Ayato's ult, then YaoYao's, accidentally switched to Tighnari and wasted her ult :')
I also used my c0 Ayato (with hid weapon tho) on the second half and its so satisfying to play Ayato on this abbys! Used Al Haitham ob the first half!n thid abbys was hotties gameplay.
im not a minor and something like that never happened to me (gladly), but there was a man in their 30’s who kinda harassed me when i was 20.. now i’m almost 22 but there are still men around that are not that nice. reading what elliot gindi did really made me incredibly sick. i hope the victims are recovering from this.
Im so sad cause Tighnari is my fav character and i cant stand to hear his voice rn. Cant wait for a new va Edit: I dont like reading subtitles and i wanna know what characters are saying so i wont be switching off english
@@SephTheHuntress in my opinion Japanese doesn't suit him, I actually found that I really like his Chinese voice - it really suits his personality as a character who really cares for others
@@SephTheHuntress yeah, but I decided to switch back. And try to separate the VA from the character in my mind, regardless of the voice. I tried Chinese for my alt, but since I've just got Hu Tao there and been trying to play her, I can't play in Chinese since I really don't like her Chinese voice for most of the lines (I guess it's the timber or something, I remember having a professor at university whose voice gave me literal headaches, Hu Tao isn't nearly as bad but still kinda uncomfortable) so... I'll stay with English for now
my boyfriend did the same, i was really not wanting to date anyone for a long time and he pursued me anyway patiently and now we live together and are getting engaged soon lol. cute to hear josh was the same
Aww I couldn't stop smiling at the part where you spoke about Josh! *Blushge* And while we're at it y'all should switch your Tighnari to Shuren man in da yo! It's the superior VA and it has always been all along.
I new in game like a month. Kaeya and beidou carrying me should I level up other character I don't have any 5 start. Should I level up heizou & ningguang & faruzan & rosaria ( my main character are all at lvl 60 but these are at lvl 20, having problem in. Abysss that's why asking for suggestions
If your mains are Kaeya and Beidou, Heizou, Ning, and Faruzan won’t be too much help, but Rosaria can (maybe) help depending on your team. Superconduct is good for phys dps Kaeya, but his burst already applies cryo really well
@@MonkeyDLuffy-gr2rd He, or any hydro applicator works well in a tazer team with Beidou, and he also works well for a freeze comp with Kaeya. Also, just as an fyi, Heizou + Kaeya burst = infinite swirl, so thats another team involving Kaeya
I had heard bad things about Tighnari’s VA when he first came out so I always avoided him but now that my suspicion was validated i feel so horrible for the victims Im sos sorry to people who have been in similar situations and the victims
Honestly, as long as you can build 2 hyperbloom teams or one hyperbloom for second half and something like Raiden national or any spread team for first half, it's not too bad. Idk, maybe I'm speaking as a person who has a lot of characters and many of them built but I did this abyss far more quickly than the last one
I had not heard of the situation what's so ever until the warning, so I did a little research and I'm traumatized. Prob not as traumatized as all the victims of Eliot, but this is disgusting. I hope everyone can find a time to heal. And to Eliot, you got a chance and failed, another, still failed. You use women as an object to toy with and breaks the hearts of, and none should be treated like this. You should be behind bars Eliot. Edit: I found out he also threatened suicide which is horrible, and suicide is a real thing that you can't just fake?!?!? More reason to be behind a meat room impossible to escape so he can't hurt anyone anymore. My heart goes to all the victims and their families.
those consecrated beasts kept stealing Haitham's blooms subsequently killing my runs and therefore, leaving me with little to no time for the Kinkys. I'd take the eremites any days but the consecrated beasts r the bane of my existence
We've seen Oz's CN VA get replaced, so im pretty sure thatll also happen! Itll probably take a long time though I hope it comes soon, because some of my favorite parts of nari was his voice, but here we are...
At the start of the video, it is horrible that tighnaris va did that, but as well all know, the character tighnari isn’t the one who did that, but it is going to change( I’m talking about all the voice parts
I try to do Lisa hyperbloom on my alt with Barbara + Collei (AR25, no wish account), I was surprised how well it works despite the fact that I still don't have good EM artifacts for Lisa
If you can’t eat carrots and broccoli uncooked, you might have pfas, search it up. I have it too, it’s basically and allergy to uncooked veggies and fruits, and it’s a large spectrum, so you could be affected by only some fruits and veggies, also the symptoms vary a lot.
Hey Dish I was watching your sumeru archon quests recently. And I watched almost all of them but couldnt find act 5 part 2 vod. I was wondering where's this video and will you upload it someday
There are some roads i dont usually play of Mario Kart 8, yesterday i put Super Bell Subway and, that it is!! For maybe someone with the same question :3
Idea, if any future video involves en Tighnari, I propose just slapping a loud ass fart noise over it 😅 very kind of you for the warning, I have eng va bc I’m ass at reading and adhd go brrr, I’ll be changing for stuff involving him of course. I hope the best for the victims and that the voice lines gets replaced soon 😢
Honestly, learning to separate the VA and their dealings from the characters they voice might be a better decision for mental health overall. I've decided to stick to the voiceover I understand because I couldn't stand Hu Tao, whom I recently got on my alt, where Tighnari is the strongest character I have, in Chinese. Like I like the song, but the other voicelines were...not for me. And I'm not a huge fan of Tighnari in Japanese, the voice doesn't suit the character, but I like the Chinese voice a lot more, so, I decided to download Chinese. Switched back to English though, even though I happen to prefer the Chinese voice of Kokomi (I like the English voice too but I like how in Chinese she's much lower-pitched). But on my main I don't really play Tighnari, I only got him shortly before Alhaitham, and Alhaitham is the guy I've been waiting for since the first 3.0 teaser haha And yeah, for me having a voiceover I understand is important even though I can read just fine. Recently I have been finding it hard to listen to voiceover I don't understand. I guess, I'm getting old haha
i hate that his actions have affected such a large community just by being a voice actor. and the whole character of tighnari has a worse reputation just because he had been associated with that man who has done horrible things
Exactly. A friend of mine also said he doesn't associate the personality of the VA and the stuff they did as a human being with the work the VA did. And I think it's a very mature decision. It was hard for me at first to the point of me downloading Chinese VO, but now I'm probably just gonna wait since I decided to switch back to English after a while and try to follow that friend's point of view
@@arreilaa4872 to some it might be hard and it's understandable. After all, VAs give life to the character through their voice. Maybe when hoyo brings a new VA for tighnari things might get easier. Hope you heal from this terrible experience.
Something i do to separate VAs from the character is to imagine them both in the same frame and see how different their personalities are. Someone made a fanart of tighnari slapping the sht out of gindi guy and i can totally imagine tighnari being disgusted and unforgiving to someone like elliot gindi. Watching trailers and other videos of tighnari in other languages might help too (i know changing the in game language might be bothersome so that's just an idea)
100%, but it's also understandable that people find his voice triggering. It should go both ways; don't judge people for using the character, but have empathy and understand that "separating" is not as easy as it seems
I’m really sick of people saying “the character isn’t the voice actor” every chance they get. You do realize that’s not the point, right? Like, nobody worth your time is going to legitimately think that you support predatory behaviour for liking a character in a videogame. The trigger warning was there for people who can’t handle hearing Tighnari’s current voice and I’m bery glad that Dish put that there! I just wish that more genshin fans rushed to empathy for the victims rather than empathy for a literal concept that is portrayed by a pretty fox boy. I apologize for the rant but I just wanted to get that off of my chest, I feel like I’ve been seeing too much of it.
Brahh use kuki e when there r seeds on the ground after u have used dendro and hydro. Thats it thats hyper bloom. Use every thing the kuki u dong even need any bursts its all e
woah! lots of opinions about the warning at the beginning. each person’s gotta make their own choice about they interact with the situation. like I said, there are a lot of people who don’t want to hear Elliott’s voice anymore, especially associated to Tighnari. if the VO doesn’t bother you, all good! Just want to give people the choice. personally, I can’t hear his voice without thinking of all the horrifying screenshots I’ve seen on twitter. yes, the VA is not the character, but the association is there for me regardless. your opinions are just fine, what I won’t tolerate in my comment section is invalidation of the victims.
it's better to have a warning rather than not and people who don't want to hearing his voice
@@venus_soupmy thought exactly
@@venus_soup frfr
you tell em ms dish
you did the right thing
it’s always a good time watching dish suffer in spiral abyss.
says wish (gambling addiction ensues)
@@heishikiwi3763 lmao
Tru dat tru dat
being a person who can't eat gluten at all hearing dish say she'd die not eating bread. I felt that hard
stay strong ✊🏼😔
@@dishh thank u
omg yeaaa, last year i got really sick after eating gluten, and haven't eaten it since TT gluten free bread gna kill me one day.
Does celiac go away or is it permanent? I don’ have it but I’m asking for a friend
@@cloudysupreme9859 it’s permanent. I have celiac and there is no real cure yet. You just can’t eat the gluten
i love how we're sitting around casually discussing the boiling of frogs
As someone who is struggling with their sexuality after being gaslit into thinking I was gay... The screenshots of what Elliot Gindi did on twitter brought back memories of physical abuse I didn't want to relive. Thank you for the warning Dish, my prayers are with all of the victims in this situation.
Remember, no gау.
@Bullet Sponge huh?💀💀
@@environmentaly7894 No "huh", gay is bad.
@@environmentaly7894 not huh it's yeah!
@@sanketsarkar4704 your face and personality ain't giving so stfu 😭😭💀💀💀
as you said at the beginning of the video about Tighnari VA , i’m absolutely disgusted, if i can say that, for what he did and i hope the victims can be happy again. That said, nice video about the Abyss and our queen Lisa
When the news first broke my initial thoughts were that, even if you were to give him the benefit of the doubt, he needs to be replaced and get help. I decided I could believe that with the information provided that maybe, just maybe, his apology was accurate and that he was genuinely going to step down and get help; that a step down from the position he abused would open up a path of healing for the victims and prevent further incidents.
That changed very quickly when more information came out and it was clear his apology was fake on almost every point. All it took was one more person to do this, yet the number of victims who came out with their stories tripled in a matter of a few days. More messages were revealed and more manipulation was uncovered so quickly I could barely keep up. There is not one statement made by him that holds any ground at all anymore. At this point it seems almost like this was his plan all along before he even got any roles as a VA. I no longer think that him getting replaced and getting help would be sufficient for me, he's an outright criminal and needs to be arrested. I hope justice comes quickly and that his victims can find at least some peace with the result.
Agreed but i'm not going to let his voice bother me after all it's a video game Tighnari voice isn't the problem the voice actor is the issues and yes disgusting.
@@annaairahala9462 honestly, i always felt he was a little sus. i assume he was putting on an internet persona, maybe he did at one time but became so comfortable playing an asshole that he became an asshole, or maybe there never was a persona and he is always an asshole. i don't know, but it reinforce my dislike and red flag for sussy persona...
but at the same time, i don't think the director or dish need to apologise for tighnari. no one can foresee this. and using tighnari is not an endorsement for the VA. but then i also don't play in english voice.
@@kelloveclub the other languages aren’t without drama… Oz’s Chinese va had to be replaced for grooming and adultery
@@kelloveclub I get paimon, but what did the other 3 do?
I wish the best for the victims, you are not alone ✊
Mhm
Huh
What did the VA of tighnari do?
@@KingCory07 look it up
@@KingCory07 go to @Genshin News the channel explains it well
Fun fact about the "frog slowly boiling in water" thing, it actually does not work on normal frogs. the original guy who did the experiment, Friedrich Goltz, could only get a frog to stay in a slowly boiling pot if he removed its brains. Frogs with their brains still intact just jumped out when it got too hot lol
the warning just feels like a considerate thing to do, it's essentially just a trigger warning
if you'd warn someone before discussing issues like self harm, suicide or sexual assault, why wouldn't you warn someone that they might hear the voice of a know predator?
thank u ms dish, sending strength and serenity to fellow survivors
Honestly, I'm not one of the victims and I didn't have anything to do with that scumbag, but after this whole situation hearing his voice triggers sth in me. Like an anxiety... So I'm really glad dish put that warning at the beggining
Dish: *almost dies*
Also DIsh: *starts beatboxing*
15:39
Thanks for adding that message regarding Tighnari's voice actor. Could you imagine his voice being played by Zhongli's voice actor -- like a nerdy version of Zhongli.
maybe they can take the time to make Tighnari sound more like his Asian counterpart... Tighnari should feel very soft spoken. Zhongli VA is way too dominating
There’s rumors going around that he’ll be voiced by Bryce Papenbrook. Best to take it with a grain of salt. Personally, I’m not sure if Bryce would match Tighnari? Yes, he’s got the sass, but Tighnari is a mostly calm, soft-spoken character and Bryce’s voice is very distinct.
i can't wait for mihoyo to replace that bastard Elliott
From the statement that they gave to news outlet they are trying to find one as quick as possible. It’s a lot to redo just hope they can get at least part of it done before 3.5!
@@Brenilla that’s my hope too. A recast in just a couple weeks and finishing all the recording and editing is alot though. Here’s to hoping 🤞
Probably 3.6, 3.5 is way too close.
@@Brenilla maybe it will be delayed? They can’t possibly do it without a new tignari va
I switched my game to japanese as soon as I heard about what happened. I wish all of the best things in the world for the victims!
Wouldn’t it be easier to just not use tighnari? I mean like I’m just saying switching the voice seems like a harder thing to do than benching him for a few monthsz
@@amara6599 how is benching a chara for months, better than just taking a few min to get another voice pack LMAO
@@amara6599 are you hearing yourself rn
@@rainblue4789 I mean downloading a new voice pack literally just wastes space and especially if you plan on switching back once he gets a new VA. If you just bench him you don’t have a useless file sitting around.
@@amara6599 you do have a point, but I like the japanese dub too, I only use English on the main quests sooo... It's a win-win for me 🤷
Im so disgusted and upset by Tighnari's Eng VA. He was so perfect for tighnari but he ruined it. im so happy the victims spoke up cuz now he gets what he deserves. still i hope tighnari gets the VA he deserves. and im deeply sorry to every victim he had. i hope the best for you
Yeah he was in a great position - awesome character, awesome game, awesome fans - and he tossed it all in the trash. Nobody needed this treatment, especially not the victims.
It wasn’t that he ruined it.. he was always a bad person, he just hadn’t shown it yet. People don’t just do What he did out of the blue. It sickens me to think that so many people trusted this guy and admired his work, including myself, and never knew What he was really like until the victims started speaking up..
He was just a predator passing as human. He always had these sick, twisted thoughts and ideas, people just didn’t know until he was in a position that he could abuse to act on those thoughts. It’s just… sickening.
@@Da_Swifta So true. i tend to forget that people like this have always been a bad person. luckily hoyoverse are planning to give him a new En VA so i hope it helps the victims to know he isnt gonna be in the game soon
@@33melonpaws77 I feel so bad for the victims. especially before they spoke up because they saw him rise and it must have hurt. im happy they spoke up so we can all see how he is a terrible person
@@EyvvieVT Same, I imagine witnessing him get fame and praise would have made them feel isolated and burdened. I'm glad we found out what he did and lost all respect for him.
Thank you so much for the warning, as it really is quite triggering, that poor character's reputation is now quite ruined, and it's even more bad knowing what happened in real life, but regardless I do hope to those who were affected and its victims gets to heal and were fine to all of this... 💗
Also just the thumbnail but waah NPC La Signora is love, the closest thing will ever have at this point... 😭
separate the VA from the character???
Tighnaris reputation hasnt been ruined, Dish and many others just dont want to hear Eliot Gindis voice (and potentially trigger someone). Please learn how to seperate fictional characters and their VAs 🙌🏻
Please learn how to seperate fictional characters and their VAs
@@reynray6249 and all others!
Of course, but inevitably speaking, it still and will have its negative connection no matter how hard we renounce and erase that fact and is now vulnerable to mostly anything bad about it too, just saying the sad reality of it is all...
Real good thing though is that they're slowly but surely starting changing those, in which it already does In-Game, now I just need them to do the same thing in the Archon Quests, his Story Quests and other dialogues, to their promotional announcements at twt, and even change its youtube vids about it too...
Then perhaps starting that, things might get better soon... 😔
@@reynray6249 the va used the character to get close to children and his voice is still a trigger
It’s always a good day when miss Dish posts, Happy Valentine’s Day !! ❤❤❤
Thanks for the warning, Dish! I main Tighnari but after everything came out, I haven’t been able to use him without thinking of all the disgusting things his VA did. I considered switching dubs but I really enjoy a lot of the English cast. It’s great that MHY are already in the process of finding someone else for him and phasing out his voicelines. I hope the victims of his abuse can find a little peace from this as they heal and hopefully soon he’ll face more serious consequences for his actions and the hurt he’s caused. Let’s support those who need their voices heard the best we can. ❤
i hope you can use Tighnari as Tighnari
Just change your language so Tignahri has a diffrent VA
@@ItsYou195re-read the comment
@@olof9487 Oh oops sorry
I rlly miss ur spiral abyss content haha, it's always funny to look ppl suffer from spiral abyss lol
After reading everything and watching things unfold on twitter, I feel absolutely disgusted by Elliot’s actions. My heart goes out to the victims and hope they can heal peacefully.
I honestly didn't even know that Elliot had done that until you said that. I looked into it more and I just want to say thank you for the warning and I am truly disgusted.
After being through something similar as the victims of tighnaris va i dont even wanna hear his name anymore i‘m so sorry for everyone he did this to and yall are brave for speaking up I wish you all nothing but the best
I'm proud of you for being open about it, and for being here, today. You made my day better reminding me there's people like you who've fought/fight everyday to stay alive. Hope you have a great day!
@@avi_69 thank you! Have a great day too :)
Thank you for the warning at the beginning! What Elliot did shocks me and I am absolutely disgusted that he took advantage of his fans like that. I pray for healing for all the victims. We stand with you.
Seeing genshin creators suffer in Spiral Abyss is such a calming thing to see whilst I suffer in our research proposal
“I do love carrots”
*Xingqui:* disgusting
this really felt like a FaceTime call the conversation is all over the place but i love it
early (14th)
Happy valentine’s day, dish!
and i’d like to say something regarding the situation with elliot -
I hope all victims have a fast and smooth recovery. It’s heartbreaking to see somebody that people actually look up to ruin their own reputation like that. Happy valentines, let’s hope the new tighnari VA will know better.
See him in 3.7 frfr...
the frog thing is that frogs adjust their body temperature based on the water they're in! their habitats are swamps and ponds and lakes so they have an ability to adjust their body temperature based on their surroundings. so the analogy of the boiling water vs slowly-heated water is true!
I like the part when Lisa is supposed to say "You're in deep trouble" but the enemy attacks her which causes her to say "You're in" 😏
Happy Valentine's day Dish and everyone else. I hope you guys have a good day whether or not you got asked out or not!!
Thank you so much dish for the heads up! I’m 100% his VA will be completely replaced so we can all enjoy the character tighnari again. The VA isn’t tighnari but I completely understand how you feel and how others feel, so happy for the victims to stand up and not be afraid to speak out. Hopefully Mihoyo will replace him very very soon.
Anyways thank you so much for this amazing video
Happy birthday Dish! And thanks for the warning in the beginning
tighnari will always be my main dps so that's why i changed the janguage to japanese for now
Dish's conversation with chat is so down to earth I love it
transcript of the warning because some people were having a hard time seeing it:
"Heads up, this video was filmed on February 1st, before news broke that the English voice actor for Tighnari, Elliot Gindi, had been engaging in [sexually] explicit and deeply manipulative conversations with minors. I know many people, including myself, no longer want to hear his voice, so this is a heads up that the English voiceover for the game was active during this abyss run and you will hear Tighnari [with Elliot Gindi's voice lines] a few times. I'm proud of the victims for coming forward and wish safety and healing for all of them."
9:22 I have the same thing! Finally theres someone else with this weird allergen problem. I love steamed carrots and broccoli but cant eat them raw either. I also cannot eat a lot of fruits like apples, cherries or bananas raw.
it so sad bc i really love raw carrots
someone else in the comments mentioned something called PFAS! (Pollen Food Allergy Syndrome) -- they said it has a large spectrum of what foods you're affected by (fruits, vegetables, and some tree nuts) and what symptoms. It centers around raw food, so maybe look into it!! :)
@@wichiku That actually might be it. I looked into it and It says that you usually only develop this type of allergy at a teen age, which is when those allergies first started for me. Tysm for the info! I will look into it more, perhaps there is a way to desensitise against it.
@@chrunch2647 Ofc!! I wish you the best !!
I honestly cant even explain the sadness i felt from Elliott doing what he did, honestly, he was honestly one of my favorite streamers and i think i even watched his stream earlier that very same day the news came out. I dont think i'll ever truly be able to hate him, i feel shitty for his victims honestly but i dont think i'll ever completely be able to realise that he actually did that, that its the exact same person who voices one of my favorite characters, is part of my favorite cast and has some of the funniest interactions. But still i hate him from the bottom of my heart for what he caused to others, he said it himself, he was weak. I dont know whether or whether not hes going into therapy but i hope he gets everything back to the closest he can get to normal.
The guy needs to go to JAIL, not therapy. The screenshots that the victims have provided are absolutely disgusting and unforgivable. He is a danger to society who grooms little 12 year old girls one second and then threatens them and insults them the next.
I agree i do think he needs to go to jail, tho to be fair i havent been catching up to the latest and smaller details but from what i understood he rejected minors, the victims were adults. It was still disgusting blackmailing, manipulation and just downright the acts of a shitty person.
@@skaryie No he did indeed message minors
@@strxberrymoo1812 oh
@skaryie yea, he confirmed the screenshots and multiple people were minors. Also the whole blackmailing thing wasn't great. At the time his statement was made, i think only one minor talked about it. But multiple people brought it up later
IM AWAKE MOTHER
omg first!1?1!1?1!1?1!
This is so sad to hear about Elliot man and I really did like him and tignarhi too but it was really wrong for him to do such things, I’m hoping he will realize this and become a better person.
i hate that the trigger warning was necessary (though it's very much appreciated). i main tighnari, and i haven't been able to use him since, not even after switching to a different language. i miss the english voices, and i miss tighnari, but i just can't bring myself to switch until they replace the voice actor. i almost wish they would just mute his english voice for now ;-;
Remember that Tighnari is not Elliot. Nari is just a bunch of pixels and Elliot's role as his voice actor is now the least important thing compared to what he did to real life people
@@nathho his voice and character can still be triggering to the victims. He did use the character to do what he did to them
@@Komachichuu in this whole situation people think too much about Tighnari and not enough what happened to living people. The option of changing languages is still there. And Elliot hurted people as Elliot
you could switch to japanese if you like it, that is
me playing without voiceovers cause always play relaxation backsound music. try that :)
dish i'm not sure if you know this already but yaoyao's extra bunnies on her burst will disappear once you swap characters D:
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@@lorelikesthings Yes, I learnt it the hard way 😭 accidentally pushed Ayato's ult, then YaoYao's, accidentally switched to Tighnari and wasted her ult :')
I honestly really did love his old VA - he was an amazing fit for Tighnari, but it is important that justice is served where it is needed.
the transitions are really smooth! and happy valentines and birthday miss dish!
I also used my c0 Ayato (with hid weapon tho) on the second half and its so satisfying to play Ayato on this abbys! Used Al Haitham ob the first half!n thid abbys was hotties gameplay.
im not a minor and something like that never happened to me (gladly), but there was a man in their 30’s who kinda harassed me when i was 20.. now i’m almost 22 but there are still men around that are not that nice. reading what elliot gindi did really made me incredibly sick. i hope the victims are recovering from this.
9:26 dish has a allergen to the anti freeze in carrots and broccoli saw a post on a Reddit thread and someone talked about it
Im so sad cause Tighnari is my fav character and i cant stand to hear his voice rn. Cant wait for a new va
Edit: I dont like reading subtitles and i wanna know what characters are saying so i wont be switching off english
Try Japanese instead
just try the other voice overs, they are all really nice too
@@SephTheHuntress in my opinion Japanese doesn't suit him, I actually found that I really like his Chinese voice - it really suits his personality as a character who really cares for others
@Atriya Koller try Chinese then until they change VAs :3
@@SephTheHuntress yeah, but I decided to switch back. And try to separate the VA from the character in my mind, regardless of the voice. I tried Chinese for my alt, but since I've just got Hu Tao there and been trying to play her, I can't play in Chinese since I really don't like her Chinese voice for most of the lines (I guess it's the timber or something, I remember having a professor at university whose voice gave me literal headaches, Hu Tao isn't nearly as bad but still kinda uncomfortable) so... I'll stay with English for now
I feel like every patch the spiral abyss is getting harder and harder and now whales are struggling 😭😭😭
my boyfriend did the same, i was really not wanting to date anyone for a long time and he pursued me anyway patiently and now we live together and are getting engaged soon lol. cute to hear josh was the same
So cute ^^ wish you two the best of the best
thank you for reminding me I would've procrastinated another day 😿
Aww I couldn't stop smiling at the part where you spoke about Josh! *Blushge*
And while we're at it y'all should switch your Tighnari to Shuren man in da yo! It's the superior VA and it has always been all along.
me trying to get hyperblooming circus achievement for several days only for dish to do it the first time she used a hyperbloom team
15:43 Exactly my reaction when my raiden almost got one shot by both bird and scorpion 🤣
These days I seem to never get past 12-2 😭😭 I’m just so glad I got that namecard ages ago when it was a bit easier lol
I can't get past 10-2 lol
I new in game like a month. Kaeya and beidou carrying me should I level up other character I don't have any 5 start. Should I level up heizou & ningguang & faruzan & rosaria ( my main character are all at lvl 60 but these are at lvl 20, having problem in. Abysss that's why asking for suggestions
If your mains are Kaeya and Beidou, Heizou, Ning, and Faruzan won’t be too much help, but Rosaria can (maybe) help depending on your team. Superconduct is good for phys dps Kaeya, but his burst already applies cryo really well
@@annie_kwok I got xingqiu yesterday should I use him?
@@MonkeyDLuffy-gr2rd He, or any hydro applicator works well in a tazer team with Beidou, and he also works well for a freeze comp with Kaeya. Also, just as an fyi, Heizou + Kaeya burst = infinite swirl, so thats another team involving Kaeya
I had heard bad things about Tighnari’s VA when he first came out so I always avoided him but now that my suspicion was validated i feel so horrible for the victims
Im sos sorry to people who have been in similar situations and the victims
Seeing her struggle with Abyss makes me wanna try FLoor 12 even less lol, Im good with my 27 Stars
Honestly, as long as you can build 2 hyperbloom teams or one hyperbloom for second half and something like Raiden national or any spread team for first half, it's not too bad. Idk, maybe I'm speaking as a person who has a lot of characters and many of them built but I did this abyss far more quickly than the last one
Honestly, I’d watch a Elemental Burst farts tier list. Good job editor!
Life without bread is no life at all. I will die on this hill.
not the drag race disclaimer at the start
Wdym drag race
IM AWAKE.
I feel terrible for both the victims and whoever Tighnaris new VA is- people are likely going to be suspicious of them because of the previous one
I had not heard of the situation what's so ever until the warning, so I did a little research and I'm traumatized. Prob not as traumatized as all the victims of Eliot, but this is disgusting. I hope everyone can find a time to heal. And to Eliot, you got a chance and failed, another, still failed. You use women as an object to toy with and breaks the hearts of, and none should be treated like this. You should be behind bars Eliot.
Edit: I found out he also threatened suicide which is horrible, and suicide is a real thing that you can't just fake?!?!? More reason to be behind a meat room impossible to escape so he can't hurt anyone anymore. My heart goes to all the victims and their families.
5:40 that's wholesome
Happy Valentine’s Day dish, and everyone else!
those consecrated beasts kept stealing Haitham's blooms subsequently killing my runs and therefore, leaving me with little to no time for the Kinkys. I'd take the eremites any days but the consecrated beasts r the bane of my existence
Loving the story time of Mrs Dish first meeting her husbando Josh (❁´▽`❁)
wait, this is the first time im hearing about tighnari's VA controversy... does that mean tighnari will get new VA?
We've seen Oz's CN VA get replaced, so im pretty sure thatll also happen! Itll probably take a long time though
I hope it comes soon, because some of my favorite parts of nari was his voice, but here we are...
I was really ready to 36* this abyss and then 12-1 happened and I- listen I’ll get there one day
I did not know of the tighnari VA situation. Thanks for making light of it.
At the start of the video, it is horrible that tighnaris va did that, but as well all know, the character tighnari isn’t the one who did that, but it is going to change( I’m talking about all the voice parts
What do people mean? Hyoerbloom is the most complex reaction in the game.
Yes but its not like any reaction is complex. besides, its just hydro then dendro then electro. isn’t that the same as Burgeon
lisa hyperbloom is shockingly good, just run on field lisa with full EM with XQ + Nahida
I try to do Lisa hyperbloom on my alt with Barbara + Collei (AR25, no wish account), I was surprised how well it works despite the fact that I still don't have good EM artifacts for Lisa
the slimes are honestly scary specially the cryo ones when u dont have pyro 😭
Hi Dish I loved your Lisa showcase! Can I ask what your Yaoyao build is please?
Happy birthday and valentine’s dish !
everytime a chat bubble pops up and the sound goes off, I just think it's the Grindr notification omfg.
If you can’t eat carrots and broccoli uncooked, you might have pfas, search it up. I have it too, it’s basically and allergy to uncooked veggies and fruits, and it’s a large spectrum, so you could be affected by only some fruits and veggies, also the symptoms vary a lot.
Dendro is good against hydro sheilds because leaves and plants absorb water
happy valentines day! Hope spiral abyss will be your daddy until the end of times.
Hey Dish I was watching your sumeru archon quests recently. And I watched almost all of them but couldnt find act 5 part 2 vod. I was wondering where's this video and will you upload it someday
He's been officially removed! W Hoyoverse
11:30 off topic, but i really need to know the name of the soundtrack that its here, its just so good!
There are some roads i dont usually play of Mario Kart 8, yesterday i put Super Bell Subway and, that it is!! For maybe someone with the same question :3
I'm not gonna pretend that the difference wasn't ayato but zhongli which I still don't have😭
It's all good new Tighnari VA is Zy0x 😂
Happy birthday Ms. Dish!
Great video miss Dish. Also, Happy Valentine’s Day and happy birthday to you 🎉🥳
That topic of frogs sure was interesting 🤣
hope everyone is doing well today, Happy Valentine’s Day ❤️
Idea, if any future video involves en Tighnari, I propose just slapping a loud ass fart noise over it 😅 very kind of you for the warning, I have eng va bc I’m ass at reading and adhd go brrr, I’ll be changing for stuff involving him of course. I hope the best for the victims and that the voice lines gets replaced soon 😢
Honestly, learning to separate the VA and their dealings from the characters they voice might be a better decision for mental health overall. I've decided to stick to the voiceover I understand because I couldn't stand Hu Tao, whom I recently got on my alt, where Tighnari is the strongest character I have, in Chinese. Like I like the song, but the other voicelines were...not for me. And I'm not a huge fan of Tighnari in Japanese, the voice doesn't suit the character, but I like the Chinese voice a lot more, so, I decided to download Chinese. Switched back to English though, even though I happen to prefer the Chinese voice of Kokomi (I like the English voice too but I like how in Chinese she's much lower-pitched).
But on my main I don't really play Tighnari, I only got him shortly before Alhaitham, and Alhaitham is the guy I've been waiting for since the first 3.0 teaser haha
And yeah, for me having a voiceover I understand is important even though I can read just fine. Recently I have been finding it hard to listen to voiceover I don't understand. I guess, I'm getting old haha
Im so happy i juat won my first 50 50 for Hu Tao and shes AMAZING
BTW- Love you and your vids i hope you win all your next 5050s ms. Dish
♡♡♡ -Ethan
i hate that his actions have affected such a large community just by being a voice actor. and the whole character of tighnari has a worse reputation just because he had been associated with that man who has done horrible things
yeah, the association is unfortunate. afaik hoyo is working fast to get a new VA and remove elliot from the game
@@dishh personally i was never a fan of elliot so when i hear his voice i only think of tighnari but ik for sone other people thats not the same case
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Happy birthday dish! I am devastated for the victims of Elliot, what he did was absolutely disgusting and i hope they get peace.
Remember players, dont associate the fictional character to the VA.
Exactly. A friend of mine also said he doesn't associate the personality of the VA and the stuff they did as a human being with the work the VA did. And I think it's a very mature decision. It was hard for me at first to the point of me downloading Chinese VO, but now I'm probably just gonna wait since I decided to switch back to English after a while and try to follow that friend's point of view
Easier said than done. I took Tighnari off my team because I couldn’t stop thinking about the horrible things Elliot has done
@@arreilaa4872 to some it might be hard and it's understandable. After all, VAs give life to the character through their voice. Maybe when hoyo brings a new VA for tighnari things might get easier. Hope you heal from this terrible experience.
Something i do to separate VAs from the character is to imagine them both in the same frame and see how different their personalities are. Someone made a fanart of tighnari slapping the sht out of gindi guy and i can totally imagine tighnari being disgusted and unforgiving to someone like elliot gindi. Watching trailers and other videos of tighnari in other languages might help too (i know changing the in game language might be bothersome so that's just an idea)
100%, but it's also understandable that people find his voice triggering.
It should go both ways; don't judge people for using the character, but have empathy and understand that "separating" is not as easy as it seems
1:12 villager dish is real
I’m really sick of people saying “the character isn’t the voice actor” every chance they get. You do realize that’s not the point, right? Like, nobody worth your time is going to legitimately think that you support predatory behaviour for liking a character in a videogame. The trigger warning was there for people who can’t handle hearing Tighnari’s current voice and I’m bery glad that Dish put that there! I just wish that more genshin fans rushed to empathy for the victims rather than empathy for a literal concept that is portrayed by a pretty fox boy. I apologize for the rant but I just wanted to get that off of my chest, I feel like I’ve been seeing too much of it.
Brahh use kuki e when there r seeds on the ground after u have used dendro and hydro. Thats it thats hyper bloom. Use every thing the kuki u dong even need any bursts its all e
I have always had it set in Chinese. That groomer made Tighnari sound too snide imo. The Chinese he just sounds blunt, not rude persay (again imo).
Man i rly love tighnari's en voice
Ah Ms. Dish, a fellow bread addict. Bread makes up 40% of my diet. :)