Vinnie Politan Investigates: Case Against Stephan Sterns | Madeline Soto Murder
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty against Stephan Sterns, who is accused of sexually abusing and murdering 13-year-old #MadelineSoto. Court TV's Judge Ashley, guest host for Vinnie Politan, investigates the case against accused killer #StephanSterns.
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#CourtTV - What do YOU think?
Since you asked....he for sure needs to go to prison for forever & quite possibly so does she.
Rest in Peace Madeline 🕊
Waiting on Jenn’s arrest… 🚩🚩🚩
I'm not sure if he killed her, but at the very least he should be in prison for the rest of his life for the child abuse he bestowed on Madeline and others.
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@@veg2489Of course he killed her, who else would it have been, are you serious? He strangled her and moved her poor little body from place to place to avoid detection.
Even if mom is not directly involved, her complicity and naivety (telling them to sleep in the same bed together) is more than enough to hold her accountable
And the biological father? He also needs to be blamed. It was long years, he could've saved her. If he was a good father she would ask to live with him, or would tell him about it.
And a lot of single mothers just look for a father figure for their daughters.
It’s just sleep it’s not necessarily sex. Just like Michael Jackson. He was just sleeping with that children. Just innocent sleep. Everyone sleeps it doesn’t mean there doing stuff with they’re private parts . U people aren’t comprehending the situation very well. Sleeping is just a human function that everyone does and it has nothing to do with doing sex
I don’t think naivety is the right word. More like stupidity
She’s pretending to be naive
She knew how it would sound to investigators
NO WAY SHE DIDN'T KNOW. SHE FED HER TO THAT MONSTER
Every time I hear him say "shes a very good girl" My skin wants to crawl off my body!! 🤢
Same...!! That statement has always made me very....uneasy and uncomfortable
Yes, he only picked on good girls.
How much at fault are his parents?
Is it a good idea to medicate our children? Wouldn't it be better to investigate why child is acting out/in?
Everyone's medicated....maybe better nutrition and less meds?
I was very naive and a very good girl!
Omg. This is my worst cringe ever.
Ugh, same. Creepy nasty chomo.
The mother needs to be arrested and locked up for child endangerment leading to murder of her own daughter.
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Agree
Who the heck puts a 13 yr old to bed?
A pedo
@@vls3771 exactly 😢😢😢
No idea. I have watched my 13 year old nephew when his parents were out of town and he knew what time he needed to be in bed. My main responsibilities were to make dinner, check his homework, and make sure that he got up in the morning. I also brought him bowling and we played CoD and board games. Jenn served up her daughter to that pedo on a platter. Jenn needs to be held accountable.
HIS OWN BED. 😳😳😳
Or gets them ready for school 🙄
Vinnie I appreciate you bringing Grizzly True Crimes on your show. There are respectable true crime journalists here and your invitation to your show means a lot.
I totally agree! ❤
@@skeleton_wa_migraine1736 Yes ! We Love Her! Such a beautiful woman inside and out! I enjoy her channel so much! When I think of her the First thing that comes in mind is “ Oh My Word “ she says it so much!! lol
Couldn’t agree more!! She’s one of my favorite true crime channels! Always reports facts, presents everything so detailed and thoroughly, respects all the victims /their families and has the best personality!!
When I saw gray hughes, I stopped watching court tv and could not believe they let such a greedy and rude person on
@@Dustyp3ar He's the opposite of Gisela. she doesn't argue with her chat or constantly beg for money! Her mods are great, also. I'm glad I found her channel.
Considering that Gisela K of Grizzly True Crime is based in Switzerland, she has a knack for acquiring legal documents and only using factual information, not rumors, and is so respectful to the dignity of the victim and true concern for the families. Thanks for having her as your guest!
Exactly. She's amazing, no rumours, or misinformation, just the FACTS
I mean, she’s TOLD you she’s in Switzerland. And she very well may be. But honestly, does it matter where in the world she is???
@@agro2057 the person commenting is merely pointing out that G lives in Switzerland, yet she’s been able to gather, resource, and pay for court/cop records etc. You’re right to a certain extent, it doesn’t matter where G lives. But commenter is giving praise to her, for all the work she does. I’m a sub to G’s channel, but not a paying one, and I too, think she does amazingly with cases. No exploitation, no clickbait, no recycling other creators content. In fact 99% of G’s content is the “1st” airing of the information, because together with The Docket, and I think it’s 1 or 2 others, they pay a lot of money to receive the interviews, bodycam, photos, statements, and more. Then they will do their videos/lives relating to it all. It’s all the other channels who then use the content of these main 3-4 creators to make their own videos for their channel. Which really, in reality, means they’re making money and views off the “original purchasers of the information”. It can’t be helped, but it’s a little cheeky, as the main 3-4 creators, including G, spend 1000s of pounds obtaining the factual data straight from the cops/officials. Technology is amazing, but still, being able to provide what she does from Switzerland is very good. I’m in UK, and there’s certain news stations/articles I can’t read or watch, due to servers and not being aired in my country.
Grizzlies represent! Thank you for inviting our girl on for this. If anyone knows the case, it’s Gisela. She knows the facts inside and out while keeping respect for the victim and their memory at the forefront of every discussion. RIP, sweet Maddie. May you find the peace that you were denied here. I hope you know how loved you are.
G is on it per usual 🐾🐾🐻🐾🐾
@@wynterhardy9 love her so much!
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It was great seeing Gisela on!! She’s one of my favorite true crime channels and it’s been wonderful watching her grow from being a smaller channel, to getting close to 350k and the recognition she so greatly deserves!!
She has covered this case so thoroughly , but with such delicacy and care. Good to see her on here.
Listening to Stephan Sterns voice and looking at him just screams CREEPER.
He's so slimy 🤢
Wait till he gets to court. He’s going to play the traumatic brain injury defense.
Looking at him makes me nauseous. He definitely has that 'ick' factor.
Most punchable face in the U.S. atm.
This child endured years of trauma, debra sterns should diagnose her own son and leave Madeline alone
She is the ultra enabler.
Heck yeah! 💯
Gisela has really earned a spot on Court TV. Queen of True Crime! Go Gisela!!
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Maybe to you
There will be no justice for Maddie until her evil mother is charged!!
She ABSOLUTELY knew..
How could she be so cruel!!!
MADELINE!
@@user-se1ev7my6fok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
And the absent father
Absolutely! She was never emotional at all throughout the search days ...what a horrible mother, the abuser monster cried more than her!
Why does the mom keep shaking and moving like that??
Yeah, Gisela! Proud Grizzly here, and she's your best informed source on this tragic case. So glad you continue to bring her on your show. She deserves an even bigger audience. ❤
Gisela!! Definitely knows the case and has discussed it with much empathy, same time with assertiveness to lead for Madeline justice! 🙏🏽
Stephan had never had a job, 37 years old, living at home with his mommy and daddy who paid everything for him. He couldn't even clean his own room. Great parenting Debra and Chris Sterns!
No kidding! What parent would ever do that???!
I think he played on his brain injury a lot. I get the feeling that will be his defense strategy in court. It won’t work I hope.
@@DarkCriimesI think so too and the parents brought into it especially the mother , poor Stephan 🙄
He could drive a car but couldnt work even a simple job?couldnt deliver pizza?
I heard he worked at Disney for a while but not for long
Love Gisela's razor sharp recall of details and manner of explaining them is so amazing. Thanks for having her on, Court TV!
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Thank you Vinnie & court TV for having Gisela on
Justice for Madeline Soto to the fullest 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💜💚💜💚
The mother needs to be held responsible for her part in this.... She gave him free reign to do this... She needs to be in jail also
Yes, neglect at the very least. I think it goes beyond that but can it be proven...
The mom is so guilty
Too much awareness.. Everyone knows family and friends are the main molesters. All this moms fault
Definitely.
It's disgusting.
“Mom”
She’s an enabler. No excuse.
Chris Watts vibes in those TV interviews
Thank you for having Gisela on your program! She’s an incredible deep diver; doesn’t miss a thing! 🐻🐻🐻
Gisela K. is the best! She brings so much detail to her channel. Justice for Madeline Soto 🙏
It’s great she is being featured on CNN !
Grizzlys ❤
I was SO happy to see her face! She is great
@@vsanchez7158 CNN? you have link?
Love being a Grizzly. Gisela is always so thorough and respectful of victims.
Don't forget Stephan told detectives he "accidentally" reset his phone to factory settings. Not once, but twice that day.
The biggest red flag was the fact shes 13 and he was okay with sleeping alone with her.
What grown, normal 37 year old man would do that?!
Jenn had a king bed why wouldnt she get a "good" sleep with her daughter who has school in the am in bed with her?
Theyre both sickening individuals and both should be held accountable for failing Maddie
MADELINE!
@@user-se1ev7my6f ok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
@@user-se1ev7my6fok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
@@user-se1ev7my6fok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
Exactly 💯. My husband and I sleep in a king bed. We've got a huge amount of space.
What about Jennifer's behavior - laughing about her missing daughter not having any tattoos. Why was that woman laughing? If my daughter was missing I would be on the floor, screaming.
Her entire behavior was fake ...strange...cold...with no remorse... She is just evil
Gisela (pronounced giz-uh-luh) has been incredible on this case working every single day putting out videos and new information. She is seriously making the UA-cam true crime community a better place. She covers every case with respect and empathy for the victim. Proud to be a grizzly!🐻
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Thank you for having Gisela on your show, she is the best on You Tube! This case weighs so heavily on many hearts, I have to say I have never been an advocate for the DP, but this horrendous case has changed my mind. I hope to see the mother Jenn held accountable as well. She knows more than is being told IMO.I do believe she knew that her beautiful Maddie was deceased. "Gut feeling", "red flags".
Love being a part of the grizzlies. Gisela is just absolutely amazing with all the work she puts in. Her and the mods deserve all the recognition ❤
rumours say that one is not allowed to have another opinion than her..and you are getting blocked?
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Where did you hear that?
Why repeat a slanderous accusation if you aren't sure if its accurate.
@@kabra72nonsense. Must be a MAGA member tgat trued to convince Grizzlies that A.B., should get away with murder based on her political and/religious associations. Nobody wants to be conned into believing. Grizzlies don't drink Koolaid.
@@AntsyBRomanskix3 Gisela is the best!
Along with Stern’s, the mother also needs to be in prison. Her responses and body language is consistent with playing a role in her daughter’s abuse, neglect and death.
I agree , any mother would pick up on these signs, not send them to bed
I’m glad to see that Gisela is getting recognition for her expertise on this case. She is so professional and my Favorite’True Crime’ UA-camr.
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What expertise though? No disrespect but she’s not an expert
@@HenryJames-kb6uo 🐻 🐾🐾 written several books. What makes an expert?
And Stephan has the nerve to complain about jail conditions.....
He's so whiny and disgusting.
Gisela making her Grizzlies proud always🐻♥️. Justice for Madeline💜💚. This poor girl was failed by so many. Madeline you are seen and you are loved by so many.
Justice will be served when Jenn Soto is finally arrested and has to own up to being a horrific Mother.
No child should be sleeping in a room with a grown man!!
Sterns makes me sick. Rest in Paradise, Sweet Madeline 🕊
Love hearing & seeing Gisela on court tv! She has worked many hours on this case & many others💝
Grizzlies pray for justice for Madeline Soto🙏
Wow! I am in total agreement with Dr. Lieberman.
Jenn Soto should be charged with child endangerment, at the very least.
Hey G!
Please continue to have Gisela from Grizzly True Crime on your show!! 🐻
She's such a freak nobody normal should care about another counties murderers unless you are one. She's got so many skeletons in her closet and why is her face always sunburned
Absolutely, she knows this case inside and out! She has done a thorough investigation into this case as she does every case. She's very impressive and enjoys teaching us/you e everything that she knows! Hope to see you there :)
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Court TV THANK YOU for having our G on again‼️‼️ shes the best, and we’ve known it for a long time…so happy you are allowing many more to see her amazing skill‼️🤜🏼🤛🏼 (less visor boy would be awesome)
When the true crime UA-camr has better quality camera and lighting than the professional TV network show. 🤭😂
Great show again! Love seeing Grizzly True Crime on the case 💜🐻🐻💜
@gisela that lil giggle when they thank you for being there you can just see that you're bewildered it's you they're talking to! You deserve it! Love you all!
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She is so genuine ❤
Gisela is eloquent and informative ✅
I hate her
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I am missing her snark but I understand she is being professional 😂❤
❤ Justice for Maddie ❤
MADELINE!
@@user-se1ev7my6fok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
@@user-se1ev7my6fok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
@@user-se1ev7my6fok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
ok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
Love seeing Gisela on this channel! Justice for Maddie! ❤😢
G!! So great to see you here again! 🐻🐻🐻Grizzly here!
Cody is such a great producer. I enjoy listening to the whole court tv crew ♥️Thanks for the coverage. Justice for Maddie
Why are you referring to MADELINE as ‘Maddie’? Use her proper name, Please!
@@user-se1ev7my6f ok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
@@user-se1ev7my6fok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
ok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
@@user-se1ev7my6f ok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
I love it when Court TV has UA-camrs on. Way to embrace the new way news is done!!!
The Mom needs to be prosecuted, too. The video clip of her pleading for her daughter just doesn't feel right. Her responsibility is to keep her child safe at all costs.
Yeah Gisela! Great job! ❤❤❤❤
I’m so proud to be a part of the Grizzly family!! ❤❤❤❤
Justice for Maddie!! 😢😢
Gizela❤ 🐻 The Best to do it!!! Thank you for keeping us up to date with her case. Shoutout to court tv for having you. Justice for Maddie 💜🙏
Just a weirdo freak
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MADELINE!
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Stefan's own mom thought he killed Maddie and had her torso in the house!
torso???!
MADELINE!
@@user-se1ev7my6f ok "Jennifer Soto"you will be arrested soon...or if ur not Jennifer then you must be related to the disgraceful Soto family . Tell Jennifer Soto her day is coming soon...
@@kimdelgado651 his mom was cleaning his room and saw a torso male toy and instantly had fear it was madeline. She was cleaning his room couple days before they found madeline.
Very Similar to Jeff Dahmer. So creepy.
This makes me so sad. He did all this in return for a rent fee bunk with a bunch of men that may violate him like he did her. Such a punk.
What an awful crime that could have been avoided. Gisela is the best if the best! 💗 🐻
Proud to be a faithful Grizzly ❤. G is so intelligent and insightful and driven, more importantly, she has created a safe place for her Grizzlies ❤. Thank you for showcasing her in this case!
How can someone be so evil?????
For rent money.
Because they can, everyone has free will some choose to do bad, most choose to do good...
Just a shame Madeline was in a house hold with a mother who seemingly didn't care and her mother's ex who did things he knew he shouldn't be doing to a little girl... I feel for Jen to some degree, but she's at least guilty of child neglect and/or child endangerment...
@@21_f_aus What about Madelines free will?
@@21_f_aus She definitely could have said something
@@21_f_aus Don't talk about stuff you don't understand
What kind of mother has the energy to laugh and giggle at jokes when her daughter is missing?
I cannot understand how a mother could send her young daughter to sleep with mom's boyfriend in their home.
He is a monster, but she is just as bad. Poor Maddie had nobody to protect her at home. He deserves the death penalty, but the mother must also face the consequences.
Who could have a good sleep knowing their young daughter was in bed with their boyfriend?
Women are getting more and more disgusting and obsessing over men. They are loosing their brain and brain cells over a d**k, disgusting.
They were not together. They were broken up.
@@MM-ik7csyou must not be following this case… cuz this was NOT the first time she sent maddie to bed with him..
@@kimdelgado651 I said a total of 8 words and not one mention of how many times this happened. Not even a hint. He was no longer her boyfriend and hadn't been for a long time.
@@MM-ik7cs but you’re assuming this commenter was only talking about this perticular time.. they had only been broken up for mayb months not
even a year yet.. he had access and “ solo sleepovers “ with maddie for years
Mme Gisela Grizzly..your work is impeccable
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Kudos to CourtTV for consulting with the incredibly talented Gisela K. from Grizzly True Crime! There is no one more dedicated to seeking justice for victims and their families with integrity and heart. This case has my soul hurting for this beautiful young lady. She deserved better from the adults in her life. My mind cannot fathom why Jennifer did nothing to protect Maddeline from this animal. Thank you Gisela for all you do and I will remain a devoted Grizzly.
❤Gisela❤ You're The Best!
I hope they both rot in prison forever.
Rest In Peace Madeline 🕊
He "loved" her like she was my own. Past tense we didn't know she went home to Jesus yet.
plus he really did think she belonged to him
How dare vinnie take vacation 😂😂😂
So proud of our fearless leader Grizzly True Crime
Came to watch in support of G our Grizzly Mom 🐻 She has done such a deep dive into this in such a kind way ❤ RIP Maddie Soto ❤
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MADELINE!!
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It sends chills down my spine to hear Sterns describing Madeline and what a sweet girl she is and how much she means to him. Sickening!!!
Thanks for having Gizela on. She has really done her homework on this sad sad case:(
Him saying that she was so happy and happy that he came to stay with them 🤮
Great panel and thank you Court TV for throwing UA-camrs in the mix!
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The fact that they claim she was possibly taken, yet he threw her back back in dumpster where they lived. I'm glad he wasn't very smart!
Grizzly True Crime&CourtTV ❤❤❤I'm watching you from Poland and loving your work. I gave up Netflix and others because you are much more interesting.
Thank you for inviting our Mama Bear! Gisela is the best. We Grizzlies rely on Gisela for facts & her Snark! 🐻🤗
Why wasn’t mother charged in this horrific case? She allowed this to happen by bringing this monster into her house and sending her at night to sleep with him. This is horrible and so heartbreaking for poor Maddy I can’t imagine what she went through. This couple are truly sick and demented.
This is exactly why I can't follow this case ..I still gave PTSD.From that Adam Montgomery case earlier this year.
She encouraged it. She "sent" them up to bed! I can't believe she wasn't arrested!!
MADELINE!
Any good mother would sleep in the living room and maddie have a bedroom.
Yup and I’d lock it on the outside while there are men in my house but I’d never have men in my house but if I did. Lock it from the outside txt me when you gotta come out. I mean if I had a date or I wanted some privacy with my date type thing. Here’s my visa. Get door dash let me know when it’s here I’ll take it to you type thing. But you ain’t walking around until my company gone. And 2 hrs max. Hypothetically. I don’t even think I’d do that tbh. I don’t want no man in my home.
MADELINE!
Gisela!!!;I'm new to her channel and that woman is the real deal. By far the best channel covering this case with so much detail and respect.
Agreed. I actually discovered her via Court TV when she was on the last time. She's so respectful of Madeline and her coverage is so concise and easy to follow.
Grizzly True Crime is the best UA-cam channel for all cases true crime . I'm a proud Grizzly 💯🙏❤🇺🇸🐻🐾
I have heard rumours , it's a cult situation and no one is allowed to their own opinion on her channel, and you are getting blocked...
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@@kabra72absolutely not true…. We are very proud to remain adults, respectful even with different opinions and we do not victim blame ever. We often have families of victims in chat as well as attorneys and even judges reach out to thank us for G’s respectful coverage! if all that’s something you agree with come join us! We would love to have a new 🐻🥰🥰🫂🫂
@@kabra72 she welcomes and encourages dialogue but only if respectful of each other’s opinions.
@@kabra72 No, that's Gray Hughes. Gisela is very kind and doesn't argue with her chat.
Cody should read audiobooks. He has such a soothing voice. Discovered Gisela K through VPI. Love her Grizzlies
This poor excuse of a Mother needs to be held accountable for what she allowed to happen to her daughter. I think she knew exactly what was going on right under her nose.
'Leading a lamb to the slaughter' so you can get a good night's sleep.
Absolutely disgusting!!! Guilty as hell.
Its completely heart breaking. Maddie, didn't know what it was like, to live a normal life, without sa abuse. The mother, is very disappointing.
MADELINE!
@user-se1ev7my6f WE CAN CALL HER MADDIE IF WE WANT TO, GO DO SOMETHING WITH YOURSELF
@@kitoleummuelotik2411 😂. Go ahead and show more disrespect to this already murdered, victimized child if it makes you feel better about yourself because, I know, it’s really about You🙂
JS needs to be held accountable, at the very least, for child neglect. She doesn't deserve to be called a mom.
Awesome job, G. I am so proud to be a Grizzly. 🐻
Grizzly in the house. Justice for Maddie, RIP 💜💚
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MADELINE!
@@user-se1ev7my6fwhat's your problem with ppl calling her Maddie?
@@ddwm_mua it’s a Chinese bot
@@ddwm_mua my problem is I have yet to hear anyone refer to Madeline in any of these podcasts as ‘Maddie’/‘Maddy’. I just find it truly disrespectful for anyone who didn’t know Madeline to use a presumed nickname. This little girl has been debased enough by her ‘mom’ and the Monster. I feel using her proper name is possibly the last shred of dignity we strangers can bestow upon her.
The Queen of the Grizzlies and true crime, Gisela you deserve all the spotlight, your hard work and dedication to Maddie and this case is amazing, and thats the reason your grizzly crew is happy that we follow you❤ We appreciate you G❤
This case is so sad my heart just breaks for Maddie how could he be so evil 😢😢
MADELINE!
@@user-se1ev7my6f Can I ask why you keep replying this?
@@PomshkaI think they have a problem with everyone calling her "Maddie." And they have nothing better to do than to sift through every comment to correct them. As if that's the real issue at hand here.
Gisela is awesome!
So nice to see GISELA from GRIZZLY TRUE CRIMES on your show today. I’ve been watching her for several years now. She covers every aspect of crime stories. My heart goes out to Maddy. How horrific to be forced to be involved in all the terrific and horrific acts of SA! GOD bless her. ❤️🙏🏻 It’s very hard to believe the mother Jenn had no idea what was going on in her home with her precious daughter. 🥲
“Definitely not a smart guy” 100% correct
A 13 yr old doesn't need help getting ready for bed that's the proof right there
Just a grizzly here, irritated that law and crime can’t pronounce Gisela K correctly! Absolutely love to see her here!
@grizzlytruecrime pleasantly surprised to see you on yet another court tv episode! All your hard work and dedication to these horrendous crimes is admirable you earned this you are so loved and admired by all your 🐻🐻🐻🐻viewers. We are so proud 😊
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Gisela is fantastic. This case is so sad 😢
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Vinnie, thanks for sticking with this case. ❤
The experts are making excuses for SS. He knew right from wrong.
I haven't seen anyone making excuses for Sterns. That's disgraceful!
@@wingzofsteel it’s not making excuses. We’ve learned how childhood trauma shapes the mind and how monsters are made. It’s science. We can understand and maybe empathize with the child victim a perp once was without excusing current predatory behaviors.
@@Boo_kitty_kat Your last sentence? No punctuation or sense?
@@melissabenson6749 It absolutely makes sense and has proper punctuation. It may be “wordy” but is correct nonetheless.
@@melissabenson6749just because you can't understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.
Gisela K needs her own show! 🐻 🩷
These new details are sooooo disgusting and disturbing
This episode was so well crafted. It includes all of the lingering questions and discrepancies that those of us who are following this case have been mulling over. Thank you for doing a great job summarizing and addressing the over-arching themes in this case.
Yay Gisela!
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Jen ( won’t call her a mother ) is an enabler to the abuse there is no excuse how could you not know for YEARS
Love Gisela (Grizzly True Crime) & Court TV!!!
Love from all Grizzlies!
The mom needs to be arrested as well. PERIOD
The mom is guilty of neglecting her daughter ans endangering her safety by putting her in a bed of an abuser