Thank you so much for making this. I've been following your Ben showcases for weeks now, since I keep looking online for build ideas for him, so getting such a detailed breakdown like this of what you're doing and how to play the team is so, so helpful. Much appreciated
Thanks. I am actually in process of building him for Shiyu defense so this guide help alot to confirm my own ideas for him. I already cleared it with him still level 50 and low skill levels. It's gonna be fun when he's fully built.
THIS is the stuff I love to see. Screw the meta, we play whats fun in this house! I've always genuinely had more fun playing mid to low tier characters and forcing them into roles they're not "Supposed" to be in. Theres something just satisfying about playing a game "Wrong". Especially when you find that niche moment all the Meta characters struggle with, but yours counters.
thank you for this guide!! my dps ben has been coming along well thanks to your previous help, and now my gameplay can improve too. keep up the great work! :)
I can definitely vouch for this Ben guide, he's the #1 Ben and the recent Deadly Assault proves he's way better than my Zhu Yuan team. Yeah. I'm crying. ;-;
This video is actually amazing, I would of never considered using the Steel Cushion, but after you explained it sounds like a good option! Also, are u going to make a video about a Lighter team with ben when he comes out?
Wish I pulled Cesar, waiting for lighter... I'll settle for Lucy Nicole team in the mean time. Also I'm pulling sub stats as often as I can but I can't get crit damage over 140 😭 and my rate is 60 🤦♂️😂 the damage ones never seem to get the +2 lol I'll keep grinding and enjoy these videos in the meantime 👍
DPS Ben Bigger needs more recognition, he's so fun to build and play. I hadn't considered using non-signature Wengines for him before so I'll mess around with that. Also Anthemics music spotted 👀
Hello. Thank you for making this. I saw you replied to someone that you would make this guide but I didn't expect to be this fast! I have been inspired by ur vids on Ben since the 1st day
Thank you! I'm glad to help! The crit ratio is pretty ideal, but you should try to replace those pen disks if you want to fully optimize. Pen% is almost always less effective than DMG%, so there is room for improvement, even if you lose a few crit rolls in the process. I suggest farming for Woodpecker and Soul Rock as those are the best 2pc options with Inferno Metal, and potentially work towards a 4pc Woodpecker set.
Thx for the guide! I was literally just looking for smth like this a couple days ago lol I happened to get Steel Cushion but idk whether to fully commit since I’m running 4 fire + 2 def (Def for slot 5&6) w his sig engine, I feel like I would have to change his slot 5 to fire damage & 6 to atk if I were to use the Steel Cushion, I have the resources since I haven’t rlly pulled for many characters so I might just make a couple sets for him and test around lol, anything for Ben ❤
Well, until Big Cylinder and M2 gets fixed, that set basically just for base attack. You could benefit a lot from Steel Cushion for higher base attack and crit if you work on the other set.
Rest of playerbase gonna be pulling Lighter for Miyabi. The few of us here pulling Lighter for Ben. 🐻💪Just to confirm on 7:02, is this really only for the follow-up EX? So the initial block is ok to use if we have energy to spare?
Yeah, it's generally good practice to have enough energy ready for the EX follow-up for whenever it's needed or optimal, rather than spend it asap and potentially not be able to use EX specials.
how well do you think burnice works with him? I was planning on having them together but once i found out that burnice is more specialized in disorder comps, ive just been using him as a regular stunner. i would really like to try him as main dps though
Would you still say to go Woodpecker over Inferno even with Ben, Lucy & Burnice? Ben on Neko's sig. Lucy with her sig R5, & Burnice with Sig. As i'm confused how the 18% attack that you get from woodpecker beats out 28% crit in a scenario where you can ensure 100% uptime, the only downside i can imagine is that you can get too much crit? I can't really see him struggling with attack values either, I'm pretty sure that team should have more than enough burn application, that you are probaly even hitting the ICD and wasting your applications. Eventually there is also rocketboo to add for this team, surely with that 100% uptime on burn should be possible? Burnice could also probaly even go for Hyperburn here, herself. Definetely a team i consider building once i finish my other character. Love your vids and thanks for the breakdown!
That team should work and Inferno Metal would be a good choice for that team to an extent. At a certain point, crit rate becomes less valuable the closer you get to 100%. For example, let's assume Ben starts with 3300 attack. Ben at 4600 ATK (2 stacks + Cheer on!) and 75:150 crit ratio, would start to perform better than Ben at 3900 ATK (no stacks + Cheer On!) and 100:150. The Combat attack from woodpecker starts to outweight the crit rate from inferno metal in that scenario. In other words, Inferno Metal is strong if you have low crit rate.
I hadn't heard of the concept of crit value before, that is really interesting! I want to ask, how does the attack stat factor into it? I have a few agents that have what could be good crit value, but their attack is on the 1600 to 2000 range
Attack is somewhat affected by diminishing returns, but that also means it also can bring a larger improvement than DMG% multipliers at lower values. For example, the damage improvement from 2000 and 2400 is 20%, but the improvement from 3000 and 3400 is 13%. You want to increase your attack stat until it would be better to focus on improving your damage multipliers instead, like crit value. If you can supply plenty of attack for your main DPS in combat through supports, it's okay to have a low base attack and high crit value.
Awesome ben guide, im stuck with Bunny Band engine the moment and using Ben as a sub dps Sub dps ben still uses 4 piece Infernal right? I kinda feel maybe could use triple two pieces for biggest counter attacks like using Harmone, Infernal, Soul Rock or Puffer
@@olisupertan715 4pc inferno could work if you can proc burn often enough, but you might benefit more from using a support set like swing jazz or proto punk with good dps stats. Otherwise, you could try 4pc chaos jazz for maximizing EX special damage with 2pc inferno metal. 4pc sets will almost always be better than three 2pc sets.
Sorry if I write something wrong, I'm using the translator... Could you make a short, a video or a post in the community section of your channel with the discs that should be used with CA W-Engine? I don't speak English very well and it would be helpful for me to have a general reference.
as much as i wanna build ben, there is no way i'm removing riot supressor from my c1 zhuyuan. i do have an unused steel cushion but it still feels wrong putting an attack w-engine 🤣
I got steel cushion yesterday after 80 pulls and got super sad and dissapointed... Now I see you recommending it in this video. Is it decent? I believe it is more oriented for physical units...
The crit rate alone makes it worth using and averages higher damage overall compared to Big Cylinder because damage multipliers scale better than base attack.
If you're using him like a burst stunner, this build should be fine, though fire damage slot 5 would be stronger. Swing Jazz is good but I recommend having Proto Punk on the team to further support this playstyle.
this said, it would be interesting for mixing in the future considering ben himself has low base impact, so the impact 6 would have diminishing returns... might have to rebuild my ben, might be into cooking smtn
I rarely find content creators who use Ben DPS.. Life for Ben❤
Thank you so much for making this. I've been following your Ben showcases for weeks now, since I keep looking online for build ideas for him, so getting such a detailed breakdown like this of what you're doing and how to play the team is so, so helpful. Much appreciated
really good tutorial!! its honestly so rare to see a video that isnt 90% rehashing info, even rarer that its on bens dps!
Wow! This is information-dense and super helpful. I'll have to watch it a few times to absorb everything. 🐻
Thanks. I am actually in process of building him for Shiyu defense so this guide help alot to confirm my own ideas for him. I already cleared it with him still level 50 and low skill levels. It's gonna be fun when he's fully built.
THIS is the stuff I love to see.
Screw the meta, we play whats fun in this house!
I've always genuinely had more fun playing mid to low tier characters and forcing them into roles they're not "Supposed" to be in. Theres something just satisfying about playing a game "Wrong". Especially when you find that niche moment all the Meta characters struggle with, but yours counters.
thank you for this guide!! my dps ben has been coming along well thanks to your previous help, and now my gameplay can improve too. keep up the great work! :)
Yes, More love for Ben!! Thank you for making this!
The day I find your channel, this releases. Thank you for the guide 😆
The secret Weapon Ben has been exposed. Hehehe as a Ben enjoyer myself... Ben made Ambush node 5 a cake walk for i dont have Caesar.
im gonna revisit this video in probably a year when i get bored and actually wanna build Ben Bigger cuz it would be funny. Pretty great guide!
Damn, great guide. This makes me want to try DPS Ben, it actually looks fun.
ok you deserve a sub and a like for going off meta and I luv it. now I can go somewhere with my m6 ben
I can definitely vouch for this Ben guide, he's the #1 Ben and the recent Deadly Assault proves he's way better than my Zhu Yuan team.
Yeah. I'm crying. ;-;
This video is actually amazing, I would of never considered using the Steel Cushion, but after you explained it sounds like a good option! Also, are u going to make a video about a Lighter team with ben when he comes out?
Thank you! I will definitely be including Lighter in my Ben team when he comes out.
Wish I pulled Cesar, waiting for lighter... I'll settle for Lucy Nicole team in the mean time. Also I'm pulling sub stats as often as I can but I can't get crit damage over 140 😭 and my rate is 60 🤦♂️😂 the damage ones never seem to get the +2 lol
I'll keep grinding and enjoy these videos in the meantime 👍
Thank you for this guide ❤❤
Feelin goofy and im lacking any kind of DPS other than Phys. This looks fun
DPS Ben Bigger needs more recognition, he's so fun to build and play. I hadn't considered using non-signature Wengines for him before so I'll mess around with that.
Also Anthemics music spotted 👀
ben enjoyer myself :3
and the fact that I COMPLETELY RECOGNIZE THAT MUSIC is sayin somethin-
Yesss thank youu 😻😻😻
NO NOT THE WAY I RECOGNIZED THE MUSIC INSTANTLY 😭
glad to know it wasn't just me lol
Valleywards ❤
Great guide
Hello. Thank you for making this. I saw you replied to someone that you would make this guide but I didn't expect to be this fast!
I have been inspired by ur vids on Ben since the 1st day
Thank you! I'm glad to help! The crit ratio is pretty ideal, but you should try to replace those pen disks if you want to fully optimize. Pen% is almost always less effective than DMG%, so there is room for improvement, even if you lose a few crit rolls in the process. I suggest farming for Woodpecker and Soul Rock as those are the best 2pc options with Inferno Metal, and potentially work towards a 4pc Woodpecker set.
Im building him alongside Billy + Corin, a shame he doesn't trigger the team bonus, but hes still good
My team at the moment is ben, koleda (M2) and lucy
Im having great results!
What if Ben has a brother named neb smaller and instead of being fire defense he’s ice support wouldn’t that be crazy fr fr (also skinny💀)
i told you not to hit the blunt before going on internet micgi
@@digadeh and instead of working for a construction company he works a office job
Skinny polar bear
@@tripplesouth see this guy gets it
I AM TODAYS YEARS OLD FINDING OUT THAT YOU CAN GIVE CHARACTERS W-ENGINES THAT DON'T MATCH THEIR CLASS WHAT
Thx for the guide! I was literally just looking for smth like this a couple days ago lol
I happened to get Steel Cushion but idk whether to fully commit since I’m running 4 fire + 2 def (Def for slot 5&6) w his sig engine,
I feel like I would have to change his slot 5 to fire damage & 6 to atk if I were to use the Steel Cushion,
I have the resources since I haven’t rlly pulled for many characters so I might just make a couple sets for him and test around lol, anything for Ben ❤
Well, until Big Cylinder and M2 gets fixed, that set basically just for base attack. You could benefit a lot from Steel Cushion for higher base attack and crit if you work on the other set.
@@rakaruk02 oh is cylinder & his m2 bugged? I haven’t noticed, I’ll for sure try him on steel cushion and the other set tho
Rest of playerbase gonna be pulling Lighter for Miyabi. The few of us here pulling Lighter for Ben. 🐻💪Just to confirm on 7:02, is this really only for the follow-up EX? So the initial block is ok to use if we have energy to spare?
Yeah, it's generally good practice to have enough energy ready for the EX follow-up for whenever it's needed or optimal, rather than spend it asap and potentially not be able to use EX specials.
how well do you think burnice works with him? I was planning on having them together but once i found out that burnice is more specialized in disorder comps, ive just been using him as a regular stunner. i would really like to try him as main dps though
You certainly could use Burnice with Ben as a support to improve the Inferno Metal set, but I don't recommend pulling her for that alone.
Why is no one mentioning 6:23 🤣😭
Would you still say to go Woodpecker over Inferno even with Ben, Lucy & Burnice? Ben on Neko's sig. Lucy with her sig R5, & Burnice with Sig.
As i'm confused how the 18% attack that you get from woodpecker beats out 28% crit in a scenario where you can ensure 100% uptime, the only downside i can imagine is that you can get too much crit? I can't really see him struggling with attack values either,
I'm pretty sure that team should have more than enough burn application, that you are probaly even hitting the ICD and wasting your applications. Eventually there is also rocketboo to add for this team, surely with that 100% uptime on burn should be possible?
Burnice could also probaly even go for Hyperburn here, herself.
Definetely a team i consider building once i finish my other character.
Love your vids and thanks for the breakdown!
That team should work and Inferno Metal would be a good choice for that team to an extent. At a certain point, crit rate becomes less valuable the closer you get to 100%. For example, let's assume Ben starts with 3300 attack. Ben at 4600 ATK (2 stacks + Cheer on!) and 75:150 crit ratio, would start to perform better than Ben at 3900 ATK (no stacks + Cheer On!) and 100:150. The Combat attack from woodpecker starts to outweight the crit rate from inferno metal in that scenario. In other words, Inferno Metal is strong if you have low crit rate.
I hadn't heard of the concept of crit value before, that is really interesting! I want to ask, how does the attack stat factor into it? I have a few agents that have what could be good crit value, but their attack is on the 1600 to 2000 range
Attack is somewhat affected by diminishing returns, but that also means it also can bring a larger improvement than DMG% multipliers at lower values. For example, the damage improvement from 2000 and 2400 is 20%, but the improvement from 3000 and 3400 is 13%. You want to increase your attack stat until it would be better to focus on improving your damage multipliers instead, like crit value. If you can supply plenty of attack for your main DPS in combat through supports, it's okay to have a low base attack and high crit value.
@@rakaruk02 that actually helps a lot, thank you!
Awesome ben guide, im stuck with Bunny Band engine the moment and using Ben as a sub dps
Sub dps ben still uses 4 piece Infernal right?
I kinda feel maybe could use triple two pieces for biggest counter attacks like using
Harmone, Infernal, Soul Rock or Puffer
@@olisupertan715 4pc inferno could work if you can proc burn often enough, but you might benefit more from using a support set like swing jazz or proto punk with good dps stats. Otherwise, you could try 4pc chaos jazz for maximizing EX special damage with 2pc inferno metal. 4pc sets will almost always be better than three 2pc sets.
Sorry if I write something wrong, I'm using the translator...
Could you make a short, a video or a post in the community section of your channel with the discs that should be used with CA W-Engine? I don't speak English very well and it would be helpful for me to have a general reference.
How are you using a different Ben bigger skin??
playing on PC, using skin mods.
@@diggydawg463 oh it's a mod. Thanks for letting me know
as much as i wanna build ben, there is no way i'm removing riot supressor from my c1 zhuyuan.
i do have an unused steel cushion but it still feels wrong putting an attack w-engine 🤣
I got steel cushion yesterday after 80 pulls and got super sad and dissapointed...
Now I see you recommending it in this video. Is it decent? I believe it is more oriented for physical units...
The crit rate alone makes it worth using and averages higher damage overall compared to Big Cylinder because damage multipliers scale better than base attack.
Opinions on ben with tusks of fury, 4pc swing jazz 2pc woodpecker electro, 4 on Crit 5 on Atk% and 6 on Impact?
If you're using him like a burst stunner, this build should be fine, though fire damage slot 5 would be stronger. Swing Jazz is good but I recommend having Proto Punk on the team to further support this playstyle.
@rakaruk02 thought about fire dmg 5, but at the same time i believe i would be neglecting the physical part of his damage output
this said, it would be interesting for mixing in the future considering ben himself has low base impact, so the impact 6 would have diminishing returns...
might have to rebuild my ben, might be into cooking smtn
bro how did you get the ben alt skin?
Does Ben have an alt skin? I’m confused
nice :)
omg
Why ben black?
why yer ben not white jacket?
cosmetic mods
how ben black fer you how?
Do anyone know how to mod in mobile(nake ben🗿)
;-; nice voice
🫡🫡🫡
Isn't riot suppressor and brimstone for attackers...
Only taking advantage of the high base atk + crit stat
Just build him like a crit dps and play as normal. Not much to it.