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Your statement, "This movie is poetry" is an insightful observation.
I'm with Chandra, the "Last March Of The Ents" moment is spine-tingling.
'cause: 2024+ BYE trees?
I watched all of these movies in-theater multiple times. The "Last March of the Ents" still stands out as the moment I got serious shivers down my spine, EVERY single time. Since then I've even watched these movies another dozen times in a local theater which airs them every year around Tolkien's birthday in January. It's a very special experience watching them with other fans, and I hope y'all get to experience that someday.
So, the Battle of Helm's Deep took 3 months to film, used 2,000 extras, they did it at night while it was raining plus they had to use some artificial rain on shots. The filming logistics had to be absolutely insane. I don't know if every single extra had the same level of makeup as an orc when close up, but on average it took 2-3 hours to apply the makeup for a single actor being an orc usually.
The ones wearing helmets in wide shots won't be wearing makeup
After filming on the battle was complete, everyone who worked on that part of the production got t-shirts, saying "I Survived The Battle Of Helm's Deep".
Tolkien made multiple languages, including several Elvish languages.
So in that sense it is a real language.
Yeah! All the best film/tv languages are real although not as deep as ones shaped over hundreds/thousands of years of use. Klingon is another good one. :)
Mir means jewel. Boro means faithful. Fara means adequate.
Functional vs real
You can tell when there is love put into a project, making this film is the best example of a labour of love that I can think of. 🙂
Peter Jackson and the other producers agreed to accept profit share so that their salaries wouldn't eat into the budget. When these movies were massively successful, the studio tried to avoid paying them by pretending that the production costs were massively higher than they really were. Fortunately, the studio lost in court.
One of the reasons why The Hobbit was stretched into 3 movies was because one of the LotR producers accepted his compensation as profit share in a theoretical future The Hobbit movie because there was no profit share left for him in the LotR movies. The studio's lawyers successfully argued that because his contract said Hobbit movie, singular, he would only receive profit share for the first movie.
@@kryptonianguest1903 what a bunch of disgusting pricks. I wonder how those corporate lawyers sleep at night knowing that they scam people who do the real work, in favor of a rich jerk who already has more than he could spend.
I love how this movie displays hopelessness. I couldn’t believe wthen the wall was blown to shreds. My heart stopped for a good second. But my moment of this movie is the speech of Sam. He’s the best.
There are many heroes in this trilogy. But Sam is THE hero.
All of the parts you described as "poetry" are moments lifted right out of the books, almost word-for-word, testament to the creative genius of JRR Tolkien. If you ever read the books you will find many passages that are just stunningly beautifully written. Edit. After a long break I have just reread the books and I have not changed my mind. I have read and enjoyed many fantasy books but I haven't found anyone that matches the epic writing style of Tolkien, especially in those key moments in the story.
Elvish sounds like a real language because it basically is. J.R.R. Tolkien was a philologist (study of languages) and made up entire languages for some of the peoples of Middle Earth following realistic rules and patterns of language. This is part of the reason why the names of characters and places have a kind of consistency and depth to them in the LOTR books.
Also called an “orthologist” and “linguist”. So many tools to create worlds and languages. Brilliant in imagination and intent!
He actually created the languages first, then wrote the stories to create a world for the languages to exist in.
Even more impressively, there are two completely distinct elvish languages used. Quenya is what the high elves and elvish scholars and learners would speak and what Saruman was chanting when he was manipulating the weather on the mountain pass, forcing them to go through the mines. Sindarin is like a common language used by all of the elves and is more of an example of what the common elves or lower class elves would be speaking, and is what Gandalf was chanting when he was battling Saruman in that same fight on the mountain.
So Saruman, who was the head of the council of the wise before he betrayed the others was using the language associated with wisdom and learning, and Gandalf was using the language of the common people, showing he was more down to earth and in touch with common folk.
@@Erin_J_ Huh, that is a detail I never knew. The language Gandalf and Saruman were using to cast their spells I mean. That was neat!
Most authors invent languages to give authenticity to the world they created.
Tolkien invented a world to give authenticity to the languages he created.
The king theoden speech about, "The days going down in the west, into shadow", hits differently for me in 2024 😢❤
well west has nobody else to blame and are getting their just deserts. and was never anything like rohan, however much think they are like that in fantasy and propaganda
One of the key scenes you wouldn't have seen if you hadn't watched the extended edition is the one with Boromir where you get to see the extreme pressure his father put on him to get the ring. It makes you realize how conflicted Boromir was about the ring, knowing he was part of the fellowship that came together to destroy the ring, while also knowing his father would never forgive him if he did help destroy the ring rather than bringing it back to his father and Gondor. It really explains Boromir's desperation to get the ring from Frodo as it wasn't just the power of the ring corrupting him but also his own father's demand he get the ring and its power for Gondor. It humanizes his brief moment of madness and makes his bravery and death more gut wrenching because you better understand his motive and also his deep regret for trying to take the ring from Frodo.
It also helps give a little bit of the lost depth to Faramir
At 6:09 you ask, "How did they make all this?" Helm's Deep is a combination of various scales of models, plus a series of sets modeled at various scales into the side of a quarry, plus the usual CGI. When the filming was done, they tore it all down and built the city of Minas Tirith in its place (you'll be seeing a lot of Minas Tirith in the next movie). Various pieces of THAT set were used for the fight on Weathertop, where Frodo was stabbed by the Nazgul. Waste not, want not...
On the extended DVDs and BluRays, there's a "Behind the scenes" piece called "Bigatures". Most of the landmark features were scale models, with Orthanc, the tower of Isengard, being massive. The rallying grounds around the tower measured 60 feet in diameter, with the tower standing at 15 feet in height.
Something I find interesting on rewatching is that we are introduced to Minas Tirith very early in the first movie whilst Gandalf is investigating the ring in the city library, but it's dimensions are cunningly hidden so that when we see it in the third movie it becomes a marvel.
In the movies Gimli is kinda of the relief character but don't get fooled, he's a great and fearless warrior.
"Many of these trees were my friends. A wizard should know better!"
The utter feeling of betrayal in those words always tears me up, great voice acting.
I only just now noticed, when Sméagol and Gollum, were talking to each other after Faramir’s men beat him up. Gollum was comforting Sméagol by stroking his shoulder/back with his hand
Another thing when Smeagol gets rid of Gollum, watch his pupils, how they are bigger on Smeagol and smaller, more evil, on Gollum.
Tolkien assures us the Hobbits smoked tobacco. But the novel was largely overlooked in the 50's when it came out, but gained a lot of popularity during the 60's hippie movement, at least partially because Tolkien called it "pipe weed," something that the stoners, I'm sure, found very appealing.
That and the story of different kinds of people banding together for a larger cause. For the hippies, it was protesting the Vietnam war, civil rights, etc. They found a connection to the fellowship. The Hobbits and Elves being very about the love of nature, the Elves with their long hair, and the dwarves with their beards. A lot lined up with the hippies.
Since Middle Earth isn't our Earth, I just figured Pipe weed was it's own thing that has a pleasurable effect. Not tobacco or anything else we have.
@@moon-moth1 I prefer to keep it left open to question.
(from CBR, quoting Tolkien) "They imbibed or inhaled, through pipes of clay or wood, the smoke of the burning leaves of a herb, which they called pipe-weed or leaf, a variety probably of Nicotiana." Nicotiana, of course, is a genus of plants that includes tobacco. Tolkien himself was an avid tobacco user and, particularly, enjoyed smoking his pipe.
But it's that "probably" that allows some wiggle-room. Tolkien almost certainly meant pipe weed was tobacco. But the movies, IMHO, subtly but clearly leaned in the opposite direction. Recall Saruman chiding Gandalf, "Your love of the Halflings' leaf has clearly slowed your mind."
@@terrylandess6072 That was my take when I read the books too. Fantasy plants. Leaving it open to interpretation.
The flashback scene of Boromir, Faramir and their father in Osgiliath is one of the scenes that are only in the Extended Edition. Another one is the funeral of Theodred (son of the King of Rohan), with the beautiful and heartbreaking burial chant of Eowyn.
Some of the scenes you were asking how they filmed it...Peter Jackson used something called bigatures. Very large and indepth minitures.if you can watch the behind the scenes its amazing!
So many great lines in the film. I gotta go with Éomer: "TO THE KING!!"
All that poetry you heard was Tolkien himself. He was a professor of Anglo-Saxon, and the Rohirrim spoke Anglo-Saxon and used Anglo-Saxon poetic forms.
Arwen- Daughter of Elrond, Elf in love with Aragorn. Eowyn- Niece of Theoden King of Rohan, also in love with Aragorn.
Me, a straight male from America, also in love with Aragorn.
@@anscules😂 facts.
The Arwen-Aragorn love affair is a sort of repeat of the tale of Luthien and Beren, which Aragorn sings to the Hobbits in the wilderness in FOTR. it's the story of an elf princess who saves a man from a dungeon and then gives up her immortality to marry the man. On the grave of Tolkien and his wife are themes Lithien and Beren.
Helm's Deep was built practically, in pieces (the wall, the gate, the keep) in a rock quarry. There was also a very large "miniature" built for the big, full establishing shots from afar.
I visited that quarry a few years ago. Looks like.. a quarry! A bit of an anticlimax 😂
@@chrisnielsen9885 Reality rarely matches our dreams.
@@magicbrownie1357 well true. I also visited the secret pool that Gollum was captured at. That is a fantastic little spot, down a long narrow winding path. I am left scratching my head as to how they got all the crew and equipment in without wrecking the place
2:50 Elvish IS actually a real language now. In fact, Liv Tyler still speaks it occasionally.
With no intent to diminish any other character, King Théoden of Rohan is one who has grown in my estimation in the quarter of a century since the movies came out, and in the nearly sixty years since first reading The Lord of the Rings. The aged King Théoden of Rohan recovered from sickness and despair to lead his people through great perils to miraculous victory. It was a bit of a shock to have recently lost Bernard Hill, the actor who so skillfully inhabited the character of Théoden for these films.
I've seen this movie many times. Never get tired of it. At @16:00 the acting is incredible and powerful.
The Orcs' vocal noises are those of wild animals recorded by the sound crew at a New Zealand zoo
That's so neat! I love how creative sound designers can be!
Yes, Aragorn is part Elf, but the connection is deeper and goes back to the First Age. One of his foremothers Melian the Miai, was a devine spirit who took the form of an Elven queen and married an Elven king, in Beleriand, a sub continent west of Eriador that was lost under the ocean during a war among the demi gods that sang the world into existence. Melian's half Elven half devine daughter Luthien married a mortal man. ( His father's ring is the one Saruman and Grima discuss in Two Towers). Their devine/ Elven/ human son's line crossed another human Elven line so at the end of the first age came the twin brothers Elrond and Elros. Because of their unique heritage they were allowed at anytime to choose mortality for themselves and so did Elrond's children. Elros chose to be mortal, but with his devine nature he and his direct descendants had life spans of hundreds of years. The deni gods gave Elros an island called Numenor, where he could rule the High Men who had befriended the Elves and assisted them in the Devine war. They got arrogant of course, which made them vulnerable to Sauron, and most died when Numenor was swept away by the sea. But nine ships carried The Faithful to Middle Earth and the colonies there. The right ruling line, who had been usurped in Numenor established Arnor and Gondor.
So Aragorn is dating his great great aunt?
@@steve716 I feel like an Ent now.
Elrond's Daddy , and Aragorn's remote ancestor, is in fact "Earendil, the "most beloved star" gift to Frodo that provides the blessed light in dark places. Galadriel is also Elrond's mother-in- law, and one of the oldest and most powerful elves still in Middle Earth.
@@steve716 Probably a hundred more greats in there, but yeah.
@@steve716 Technically Arwen is his first cousin about 80 times removed. Sh'es also like 1600 years older than him. Weird tho it may sound, at this point they're about as unrelated as like 40th cousins would be. So really any two people growing up in the same village together at most points in human history are probably more related to each other than Arwen and Aragorn are.
You should watch the making of and behind the scenes extras in the extended versions. It is fascinating and would answer a lot of your questions. The level of effort they went to to make every detail realistic will never be matched imo
Funfact: When the elves march in, notice they dont move until Legolas appear before them. Then they all instantly turn because they know who he is (royalty), and they stand at attention
These movies are absolute masterpieces of cinema. From casting. To story. To acting. To little background details. Everything is 10/10. Nothing has come close since.
Don't forget the source material. Without great source material it's hard to make a good movie. The world Tolkien created in his books are fantastic in itself and so detailed that the producers had this huge treasure chest of details to work with from start. And they did a hell of a good job yes!
24:50 IIRC, in the book, Haldir and the elves never showed up for the defense. This was a choice made for the movie to help show the cost of war, while also showing that Elrond was attempting to support the war in what small ways he could.
As others have mentioned, there is literally an entire book's worth of backstory and lore to these characters, lands, and people ~ it's called "The Silmarillion".
But what blew me away was when I started listening to the cast commentaries, and learned of the amazing behind-the-scenes details. Like how the hilltop location for the city of Edoras was chosen because it matched Tolkien's description of the city's location almost perfectly. Except for one little detail: that hill is actually located in the middle of a huge national park, with no roads in the area. Also, the government only agreed to let them use the park if they agreed to return it to it's original, natural state - which they did. So they actually built the gate, near the bottom, and all the buildings that you can see from the Golden Hall (they used the interior of the Golden Hall for offices, makeup, and the commissary). The rest of the city, typically only seen in long shots, was CGI. They filmed various scenes there for several months, and then, when shooting completed, they removed all the buildings, and as they promised, returned the land to it's natural beauty.
When you see the banner at the Golden Hall tear and fly off into the wind, that was unplanned. It was pure luck that they caught that on film. The Director decided to keep the shot, and added the one where Aragorn finds the banner in the grass.
In the scene where Gollum chases a fish down a stream, it snowed at the filming location the night before, and they had to bring in large heating fans to melt the snow around that stream location before they could do any shooting that day. But Andy Serkis still had to freeze his ass off, rolling around in the icy snow-melt water so they could get the shot and CGI Gollum in later.
Honestly, the more I learned about what it took to make these masterpieces, the more I'm in awe of them.
At 10:58, this scene between Faramir, Boromir, and their father Denethor is one of the main reasons Tolkien fans prefer the Extended version of the movie. This scene was cut from the Theatrical version, but it helps explain much of Boromir's behavior in FOTR. There is another important scene near the beginning of ROTK that should not have been cut from the Theatrical version--you'll recognize it when you see it.
The lady is right. Every aspect of these movies is amazingly good. Certainly not the least of which is Howard Shore's wonderful music. Even all the bit parts are great, like the little girl on the horse leaving her mother. Just A +++ all around.
"Just like D&D when you help someone". +1
The way Sting rolls out of Frodo's hand after threatening Sam, you can tell how well balanced the blade is.
Frodo is my favorite character, especially in the books, the amount of self sacrifice he endures for the world is truly incredible
Tolkien was a deeply Catholic man who smoked a pipe, and in LotR as written pipe weed is tobacco. In the 60's LotR was popular with the counter culture hippie types who were deep into using pot, and they asserted the pipe weed was actually weed. The movie kind of dances around both.
The dialog is so beautiful because of the author, JRR Tolkien. Most of it was read word-for-word by the actors. Nothing in fantasy comes close. Tolkien was a professor of languages at Oxford, so it makes sense he wrote well.
2:53 It is a real language. Tolkien created two Elven languages. Quenya, and Sindarin, a Dwarvish toungue, the language of Rohan, and the Black Speech of Mordor.
All had rules, grammar, and syntax.
JRR Tolkien himself stated in the books it was Sam’s fault Gollum fell short of redemption. There is a moment in the books where Sméagol is almost redeemed, but Sam accuses him of being sneaky and up to something when he approaches Frodo. It’s in that moment Gollum returns and Sméagol is gone for good.
Weird thing - Gandalf and whoever moaning about Theoden going to Helm's Deep - if he hadn't done that, Edoras would have got smashed and they'd all have been slaughtered! He was spot on! :)
I have read the books. These movies follow the books so well. Peter Jackson took lessons from Ray Harryhausen with the creature effects that required CG.
Tolkien wanted to write a story that England could adopt as its mythology. He succeeded!
I love all the characters in this phenomenal trilogy. But my man is Sam, hands down.
On a lot of the sets, rather than making miniatures, they made what you might call 'bigatures', miniatures that were big enough that they could put in AAALLL of those little details and have them hold up under extreme close ups of the camera. Also, yes, 'pipeweed' is tobaco, this is VERY clear in the books. In the Hobbit, (the book) Tolkien even called it Tobaco, but for the Lord of the Rings he wanted a less modern word.
One comment that is nice to know if you really pity elf deaths is taht they really don't "die". They return to the halls of the Valar, the gods, then resurrect in valinor, the undying land. So even when it's still sad, as they won't return for a time, it's not that bad haha
Legolas is a good sport, as that one shot that cut the rope and sent the whole ladder crew falling probably killed 20-40% of those on the ladder (the higher up the more likely of death). Guessing there were 50-70 Uruk hai on it then that shot killed 10 to 25. But as Legolas couldn’t count how many died for sure he kept that out of the competition tally.
Tolkien was a linguist and the Common Tongue of the Shire is meant to use only Anglo-Saxon words. Tobacco is a borrowed word from the New World. So to avoid using a borrowed word he invented the word "pipeweed" for tobacco. It's effect on getting the hobbits high or not, well... I'll leave that one up to you.
Guys amazing detail.. Look at 19:17 You didnt show us tish scene but you saw it already .. While Haldir is greeting Aragorn, Elvish soldiers didnt respond anything..But..While Legolas and Haldir greet each other, at that exact moment Elvish soldiers return to them and do respectful military standing salute. Because Legolas is the son and heir of King Thranduil. He is the prince of the Elven kingdom of Mirkwood. And the elves have great respect for the dynasty
Theoden's speech "where is the horse and the rider,,," is from the book but Tolkien took that from an ancient anglo-saxon poem, known as The Wanderer, word for word in parts. That poem is about 1200 years old. A lot of the script is actually directly from the books (including the non LOTR books, like the Silmarilion).
Orcs are far smarter and more organised than these movies give them credit for. Tolkien wrote of them: "Orcs made many useful and clever things, but no beautiful things". Theyre basically a race of military creatures. Again it doesnt show much in the movies but not only are they highly organised but they are also very regimented, owing loyalty only to their own regiments and commands and their chieftains and those leaders that can instil fear in them, which can only happen by using the compulsion of magic, because the Uruk Hai are not easily frightened. When you see the orc interactions - like the confrontation between saruman's uruk's and sauron's ordinary orcs who were sent to "help" (ie spy on) saruman, when they argue over eating pip and merry - you can see that they will quickly turn on other orcs who arent under the same command. Only fear of their leaders stops them from fighting and killing each other all the time. In the books all the orcs wear the livery of their regiments and garrisons on their armour, and they'll happily fight regiment against regiment over minor things.
There were no ents at Helm's Deep. Just the trees, who covered the river bed and banks for two days and departed in the night so that none saw them come or go, but no orc that entered that wood ever departed it.
Its tobacco. Saruman had many spies in the shire and they bought or stole a lot of the tobacco from the shire. If you remember, in FOTR, saruman tells Gandalf off for smoking the hobbit tobacco but in fact its also saruman's (secret) favourite tobacco - thats an easter egg for the books' fans. In the books the ending has a large section that I wont go into because its a spoiler and that section isnt in the movies, but it has to do with saruman, wormtongue, and the shire.
Gimli is my favorite, aside from the obvious choice of Aragorn. Gimli is a brave, gruff and tough warrior, but also he's a softy. He has the character development of letting that soft side show, letting his fears show but staying true, and finding friendship with and love for the elves when he started off very against them.
You mentioned you love the way they speak Elvish, like it's a real language. But it is. Tolkien was a linguist, and he probably did double or triple the work in preparation and world building before actually writing the books. He made the full Elvish language and could therefore include songs and poems in Elvish in the books.
In the books, Longbottom Leaf is tobacco.
But for the films its built up to be suggested as something more potent....
They filmed the battle of Helms Deep for 3 months at night in a quarry where they literally built a castle. Other cast members said the people who did the night shoots were like vampires and constantly walking around with bruises and cuts and stuff.
Boromir is my favourite. He is such a good man with a huge heart and love.
The last march of the Ents is one of the most beautiful moments of all time and way too short
Regarding favorite character. My 10 year old niese and I watched the movies during one weekend, and because her mum had in advanced told her that Aragorn was her favorite character and was the most hansome, my niese said she thought the same thing after the first movie. After seeing the third, I drove her home, she was so embarrassed, and felt she let her mum down when she had to tell her mother that her favorite character (and most hansome) was Legolas. My SiL and I both said we really thought it was for the best that she thought the 19-year old was better looking than the 45-year old. Seeing as she was 10.
Let me share about Elrond & his daughter Arwen (& Aragorn by extension) therefore we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, they both were half-elven brothers who can choose to be mortal or immortal because of their parents; (Eärendil & Elwing), both “half elven” made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age.
Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand.
After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤
Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there!
When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh
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By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). but if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 3000year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(Oldest Elf in the world but even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm !
Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.)
Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's
Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it.
The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤
Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother)
The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
“How the heck did they film this?” - the are mostly models. The landscape shots are real of course
Most if not all the time you see shots of little kids in all 3 movies, they are the directors kids. Especially the one girl with the really big eyes. the director, Peter Jackson, does a quick cameo in each movie as well. In the first movie you can quickly see a large, sinister, black bearded man when the 4 Hobbits enter Bree. In the Battle of Helm's Deep, Peter Jackson has a cameo appearance as one of the men on top of the gate, throwing a spear at the attacking Uruk-hai. In Return of the King, he is notably shot with an arrow during a slow point during a battle.
The line where Sam says, "By rights we shouldn't even be here." Is Jackson paying homage to the books and saying he knows that Frodo NEVER brought the ring to Osgiliath. Faramir released Frodo long before they ever got there. It was changed in the movie to make the timeline fit better. Faramir is actually my favorite character. He is more fleshed out in the books and he is a Ranger like Aragorn but much more just a normal dude.
Mir means jewel. Boro means precious. Fara means adequate.
it was filmed in NZ. Great reaction guys. I am am currently a Patreon but wanted to watch the youtube edit, the film is just too damm long 😊😊 Love your "Fallout" reactions
Some colleges/universities offer Tolkien’s Elvish language, as a major! He was an orthologist….similar to a linguist, but more specific to words than whole languages as a study, which allows one to invent their own!
My favorite is Sam, although he isn't at the forefront of big battles or anything. Across all three movies he is solid.
I guess I never really noticed before, not having much exposure to Theoden King, but pretty much since the death of his son, he has been in an extremely fatalistic mindset... One might even say, the man has a death-wish.
Haldir's death always gets me in the feels.
Fun fact: Those "adorable little kiddos" are Peter Jackson's children
Merry and Pippin are pretty equally my favourite characters. In the books you see more depth from them. They get a little robbed in the movies, but they’re still great. (They cut out Pippin killing a troll! Robbed I say).
At 17:25, the odds are stated as 300 against 10,000. Peter Jackson & Co. have inflated the odds to make a better movie. In the book, Rohan had about 2000 men, most of them seasoned warriors. The odds were long, but not as long as in the movie. Peter Jackson reportedly based the structure of T2T on "Zulu," a movie he particularly admired, where a small band of British redcoats battled an enormous army of Zulu warriors.
My favourite character will forever be Master Samwise Gamgee.
Fun fact: Aragorn is related to Elrond, who used to be human before being gifted the chance to become an elf from the gods for his deeds. Elronds brother remained a man but was gifted long life- a trait passed down their line all the way to Aragorn.
The first time I read the trilogy through it feel like every road, river and ruin the company passed had a story. Later, when I read The Silmarillian ( history as told by the Elves ) I realized it was true. With all the books that Christopher Tolkien has subsequently published of collections of his father's work, or sometimes, reworks or details and the UA-cam channels that break them down you really don't ever have to leave Middle Earth. Once it's been made.
by the way for 38:44 , I gotta say this (not spoiler).. Yes you shouldn't call them(ents) trees ..Because they are not tree.. I mean literally.. They just looks like tree.. They are different kind of souls, and they lived so many years the protect all plants and forests and animals, they became look like trees.. They could be tree form but they are so much different kin like elves like dworves, men, hobbits, maias etc..
Can't wait for the third one!
The frighteners is another really good Peter Jackson movie.
In response to the comment when you find out Aragorn is 87, so yes he’s part elf. Lord Elrond is half human and so his three sons and daughter Arwen are part human. I believe it was Elrond’s brother Elros who married a human woman millennia ago and their descendants are the Dunedain, which are also the royal line of Isildur. Having Elf ancestry allows the Dunedain to live for centuries. Also side note due to being part human part elf; beings like Elrond and Elros have the choice to live as a mortal or to live and be immortal as other elves do normally. Elrond chose immortality and Elros lived as a mortal king. Arwen had the same choice and in the first movie told Aragorn she chose a mortal life.
It also means Aragorn and Arwen are very VERY distantly related cousins, a couple hundred times removed lol
17:26 .. Aragorn.. You shouldn't tell the last sentence with english.. He spoke elvish but the last sentence , the punchline was english.. "I should die like one of them" :)) The others must be terrified
This is my favorite of the 3. Something about the battle of Helm's Deep hits different
I don't know if I would say I have a favorite character per se, but an interesting thing to consider as you finish watching the trilogy is that Tolkien considered Sam to be the main hero of the story, not Frodo.
Thanks guys great reaction
World-building is in the details.
You have 12+ hours of the Appendices (The Making of) footage to see! It will answer many questions!
No spoilers, I read the book several times before the movies premiered, so a lot was "spoiled" for me before the movies, and while I enjoyed Middle-Earth coming to life, I did think that the movies deviated more and more and starting in this second half of the Two Towers, many of the moments were increasingly "cringe" inducing. YMMV And I admit the movies are super popular with both new and old Tolkien fans. However, due to the financial success of the films, fans will probably never get another movie for another 50 years to contrast and compare what might have been.
No film has ever been 100% faithful to the book it came from. It's not realistic to think they should. Different media require different modes of story telling.
@@magicbrownie1357 That is entirely besides the point. I litereally said we could compare different choices, as in the Rankin animated films. And any film can have internally inconsistent cringe moments, such as these do. They are great movies otherwise.
@@eschiedler Not beside the point. Counterpoint.
Seeing as you mentioned DnD I’d strongly recommend watching Amazon prime’s animated series the legend of Vox Machina even if it’s just through Patron I don’t think you’ll regret watching it
He got stabbed already was my reaction too lmao
Hope you two are having an great and awesome day ❤
Interesting info ( NOT SPOİLER OF COURSE) .. the cute girl you're talking about at 20:00 is actually the director Peter Jackson's daughter.. She was at the fellowship of the ring too.. At the Bilbo's party, Bilbo told the story to little children..One of them was this cutie but she has curvy and shorter hair.. You can easily recognise her :))
How come it took all day and night for the Ents to say hello and say that Merry & Pippin were not Orcs but one Treebeard makes one scream and trees Ents and entire forest immediately are in sync and ready to go to war? Treebeard was trolling Merry and Pippin that whole time. 😂
(Pay attention. This is how us fans justify obvious plot holes 😊)
At 17:00 you say, "Wow, these caves are something else!" The battle in the book is rather different from the movie's version. In the book, the course of the battle forces Gimli into the caves. He later describes them to Legolas in one of the most lyrical passages of the book--not what you'd expect from the dour Dwarf. In later years Gimli brings his people there and becomes Lord of the Glittering Caves of Aglarond.
You said what are these locations at 9:33 .. Actually you can track all locations at film with an middle earth map... There is a giant middle earth map for All of our journey, all of our place, all of the place where they spoke about or where they are... I suggest you guys, open an middle earth map and look at it while this journey continue..I dont mean the general location (like which city where they are).. I mean exact locations where they are..Like gps.. The map has that much detailed :))
The greatest tragedy of these films is how Eowyn was portrayed. Jackson and Walsh made her such a flighty, weepy, and wide-eyed overly emotional mess in these movies compared to how stone-cold and badass she is in the books. (I won't blame Miranda Otto, though, because she's done exceptional work outside these films; it's very obviously the direction and writing, not the acting.)
There's room for debate on what precisely Longbottom Leaf is, but I think it's far more likely to be pipe tobacco than marijuana. Knowing how fond Tolkien was of smoking a pipe, it seems most likely it was a carry over of that.
There's always room for a little alternative thought, but the safest and most likely answer is that it's less "fun" than some want it to be.
11:30 Denathor was not quite that nasty. And no he did not, I don't know why Peter Jackson had that change to why Boromir went to Rivendell but no one who came there except Aragorn, Gandalf, and the Hobbits knew about the Ring being found. Boromir, Legolas and Gimli and their escorts had no idea.
13:54 another Peter Jackson alteration. Faramir was never tempted to take the ring, he never actually said so but there is a moment when speaking to himself he said "Not for anything would I take that Ring, it would only destroy me" Faramir, Boromir, and Aragorn are all descendants of the realm of Numenor. Boromir was the weakest of the 3 in resisting evil. Faramir was very much like Aragorn and released Frodo, Sam and Gollum in Ithillian where he captured them.
18:52 And the third major alteration to the plot. Haldir did NOT come to Helms Deep with an army of Elves. The elves had their own battle to fight protecting their own lands. Legolas was the only elf at Helms Deep. Haldir didn't even die, he lived on and likely sailed over the sea later though Tolkien did not specify what happened to him after the War of the Ring. Idk if Peter Jackson hates elves or what, but he just adds them here to have hundreds of them slaughtered in a battle they weren't even at.
Actually elfish is now a real language
Elvish
I speak fluent Selfish: "Gimme gimme gimmie! Me me ME!" 😃
Next The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition Of The Return Of The King Extended Edition
Next Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
The sets and "mini"atures are unbelievable, you should really look up some of the behind the scenes.
Hola aca estoy de nuevo en la parte 2 !! ajaj nos vemos en la 3
In the book, Faramir rejected the ring.
Aragorn messed up big time letting Grimma leave
yes what merry and pippin found was tobacco