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You’d have loved it even more with so much more character building and world building for fellowship. React to the movie all over again extended edition. Remember that it was never meant to be cut up like this. Let me explain why in my next comment.
Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
Very pleased you decided to watch the Extended Edition. You would have lost scenes like the Trees showing up at Helm's Deep, Aragorn explaining how old he is,, Aragorn calming and then freeing Brego the Horse...etc.
The third movie is going to leave you gobsmacked. It won 11 Oscars - including Best Picture - for good reason. It had professional movie critics saying things like "I don't know what to say. For the first time in my career I am speechless."
@molonlabe1509 well, I LOVE those movies and consider them the greatest cinematic achievement ever. But the ending of ROTK DOES fake you out several times with all those fadeouts to black and white. Myself, I was ALWAYS glad when a new scene started and I could stay in Middle Earth longer.
@@Mcvthree3 completely 100% agree with you, my friend. I think Jackson did it right, but it also would have been at least acceptable with any one of the fadeouts. Tying it up and ending it with Sam though, as the book did, was perfection
Tolkien was in the Battle of the Somme. It lasted from July 1-Nov. 13, 1916. They bombarded each others lines before they “went over the top” into “no man’s land”. The Dead Marshes is what no man’s land looked like craters filled with water with dead soldiers that couldn’t crawl out having been wounded.
15:36 Eomer and Eowyn are the children of Theoden King's youngest sister, Theodwyn. Their father Eomund was the Third Marshal of the Riddermark (Rohan's third highest military title), the same position Eomer now holds, except that the job is a lot bigger for Eomer, both because the times are darker and because currently there is no effective First or Second Marshal. The First Marshal is the king, who obviously isn't doing his job, and the Second Marshal was Theodred, the king's son. Theodred and Eomer have been working together to protect Rohan, without their king's help, for about a year now, but when Theodred died doing that, no one was appointed to replace him, so the whole task fell on Eomer's shoulders, which is why he's still trying to do it even though (in the movie) he's been banished. 21:20 "Ringwraith" is another word for Nazgul or Black Rider. It refers to the person riding the winged creature, not the winged creature itself. That said, you're right that the winged creature is not actually a dragon. It's a fell beast, probably related to dragons, but MUCH smaller and weaker than real dragons. Real dragons went extinct about 78 years ago, or at least the last one known to exist died then. That's why they don't play a role in this war. 28:07 I think Hama knew exactly what he was doing when he let Gandalf bring his staff into Meduseld. The line about "parting an old man from his walking stick" just gave him a semi-plausible excuse. I think he was hoping Gandalf would be able to do something about Theoden's condition, or at least Wormtongue's presence. 33:15 "Three hundred lives of Men" is quite cryptic, but estimating a human lifespan and multiplying by three hundred gives a length of time much longer than the two thousand years or so that Gandalf has been visiting Middle-earth as a Wizard, and more than twice as long as even the seven thousand years of the history of the race of Men in Middle-earth. It seems Gandalf has to be referring to the entire time since he first set foot on "this earth" -- when he was helping to create it, before the Elves or the Ents existed, let alone Dwarves or Men or Hobbits. That would make this line the only time in the movies that Gandalf gives even the slightest hint of his true - top secret - identity. 36:30 No, there is nothing romantic between Eowyn and Theodred. Not only are they cousins, but his father took her and Eomer into the family as his own when Eowyn was only seven, meaning that she grew up thinking of Theodred basically as her oldest brother. So the love you see her showing at his bedside is the love of a little sister, not of a romantic partner.
Hama even holds the other guards back when Gandalf approaches Theoden, while Grima's guys get in the fight with Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli. He knew exactly what was going on.
I think The Two Towers probably is the one that hooks people the most into the movies. I see very few that really love The Fellowship of the Ring more than The Two Towers and Return of the King.
Guardian- I like FotR best, lol, but I love world building and deep dives into the why and who and where the action and relationships going forward are built on. Mind, the trilogy as a whole is wonderful and a perfect total balance. But if I had to choose it is the first where you start the journey into this world.
Rest in Peace Bernard Hill aka King Theoden 5/5/24 Favorite quote of his character "Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?" 🕊👑
48:00 Elrond does indeed know the pain of a lost love. His wife Celebrian (Galadriel and Celeborn's daughter) was kidnapped and tortured by orcs. Their twin sons (who don't appear in the films, unfortunately) rescued her but the trauma was too great and in order to not die of grief she sailed to the Undying Lands, leaving her husband and children behind. Arwen choosing mortality means she'll never be able to reunite with her mother, or the rest of her family. Elrond still had his duty to Middle Earth so he could not go with Celebrian, so for centuries he was effectively a mourning widower.
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Idk if you guys are still looking at these, but King Theodin’s actor was approached in a store by an older woman who had heard he had been casted into this role. She connected especially with that character because she had lost a child. The line “no parent should have to bury their child” came from her
You can't blame Frodo for pitying Gollum as they've both had the Ring. Frodo needs to believe Gollum can be redeemed so that there's hope for himself. In the extended version of _Fellowship of the Ring_ during Frodo's discussion with Gandalf in Moria, Gandalf gives exposition on Gollum. Frodo basically just regurgitates everything he heard from Gandalf. Grima is basically working with Saruman to disable Rohan's army which operates on a Three-Marshal system. Theoden, the king, is the First Marshal, responsible for mustering and preparing Rohan's military for war. The king's son Theodred and the king's nephew Eomer are Second and Third Marshals, respectively. Their roles are not defined and are based on the tasks given to them by the First Marshal. By taking over Theoden's mind, Saruman ensures no one can replace the king in the role of First Marshal. As Theoden is 66 years old, his extreme aging and absence of mind could have been seen by the people of Rohan as the result of natural causes. By killing Theodred and exiling Eomer (in the book, Eomer is imprisoned), Grima & Saruman effectively ensure there is no one to mobilize Rohan's military, so that Saruman's eventual invasion would be met with little to no resistance. That is, until Gandalf arrives with Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli and heals the king. Theoden can't kill Grima, although I don't like the change that Peter Jackson makes in having Aragorn being the one to convince the king. As far as the people of Rohan know, Grima was very much loyal to the king. To kill him would raise suspicion. In the books, Theoden does offer Grima a chance at redemption - either ride to war alongside Rohan, or to go into exile. Aragorn doesn't say or do anything about it because he's not the king of Rohan. Theoden in the book does actually try to fight Saruman openly. He takes a force (including Aragorn) and rides directly towards Isengard. On the way, the king hears that the group defending the Fords of the river Isen has been defeated, so Gandalf advises him to seek refuge in Helm's Deep. The Men of Numenor, at the height of the island kingdom's power, had an average lifespan of 200 to 300 years. By the time of _The Lord of the Rings_ the blood of Numenor had waned significantly. Only very specific descendants, known as the Dunedain, had increased life - living 150 to 170 years. The thing about Helm's Deep is that it's never been defeated in Rohan's entire history. It's walls have literally never been breached. The people of Rohan have no reason to think there's any kind of weakness in the fortress's defense. Elrond has experienced the pain of losing his family before. Due to the deeds of his father Earendil at the end of the First Age, both Elrond and his twin brother Elros were given the choice to either be couinted among Elves or to live as mortal Men. Elrond chose to remain an Elf, while Elros chose be a Man. Elros would eventually found the island kingdom of Numenor, serving as its first king and living to 500 years old. Aragorn is a distant descendant of Elros. Technically, this means Arwen and Aragorn are related, just many times removed. Make of that information what you will. The movies are not good about portraying this, but Saruman and specifically Sauron are very clever strategically. While the focus is on Helm's Deep, there are battles happening on multiple fronts. While it's optimistic of Aragorn to advise the king to look for aid, Theoden is right that no one would come. The Elves at Helm's Deep is a Peter Jackson change meant to demonstrate that all the Free Peoples of Middle-earth have their own battles to fight, but imo it undermines Helm's Deep as the first real instance of why Sauron fears Aragorn and that the race of Men is indeed strong as - with Aragorn's leadership - they win against overwhelming odds. The Ents attacking Isengard is probably the most important event in this movie. Sure, the Men of Rohan survive the defense of Helm's Deep, but if the Ents don't do anything, Saruman could just build another army and attack at any time. Without the Ents, the next movie happens VERY differently.
[enter Shadowfax] Gandalf: "This is Bill the Pony. He also got an upgrade. It was for helping me fight the Balrog. Bill didn't run off like the rest of you."
Hama, the doorwarden of Meduseld wasn't an idiot. :) He was true to Theoden. He knew it was Grima's command that kept weapons out of the hall. He let Gandalf in with his staff on purpose, even though he didn't say it.
@@Big_Texin the books he wasn’t. He was epic. Heck, even Éomer had alot more presence in the third book compared to the films. Same with Elronds twin sons. Heavily present in that battle and the black ships plot
Yeah, and just minutes later, we see him stop the other Rohan soldiers from aiding Grima. He let Gandalf in because he knew Gandalf was the only person who could help free Theoden and save Rohan. The man is one of those unsung heroes of LOTR.
The Fellowship was made up of 1 ring bearer. 4 warriors (elf, man, dwarf, direct descendent of ancient high men), 1 wizard (essentially angel in Tolkien's lore), and 3 best friends. Putting skill, divine help, and friendship all on the same footing. You need all 3 to make it. You can't do it with either alone. Amd Sam 's loyalty is about as pure as you can imagine.
I’ve never been able to tell if this is true or just a joke that Sam’s knots are bad. In the books they never explicitly mention this ability. But it could just be “elven magic” so who knows. If someone has does, please share haha
@@WickhaamSam's knots were actually really good it was just the magical properties in the elven rope pretty much everything the elves touch is imbued with it, its the same with their elven cloaks
I’m a lifelong musician and film lover and every time I revisit these films I’m flabbergasted by how perfectly the music not only captures the thematic motion of the films but enhances it. It’s masterful filmmaking
Definitely true. I understand why they made this choice in the films, however. If Faramir was as unaffected by the ring as in the book, it would undermine the threat of the ring in the story. Same as if they’d included Tom Bombadil.
Just before The Battle of the Hornburg took place at the mountain fortress of the Hornburg in the valley of Helm's Deep in Rohan, Aragorn is seen talking with the youthful "Haleth, son of Háma" encouraging him by saying: " There is always hope". Háma was Théoden's Door Guard at Edoras when Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli arrived to meet with the king. It was Háma who allowed Gandalf to enter with his staff. In the movie, Háma is killed by the first Warg-rider scout when Théoden and his people are ambushed on the road to the Hornburg. In the book Háma was present at the Battle of the Hornburg, and died defending the gates of the Hornburg. He was buried at Helm's Deep after the battle.
The sword Gandalf wielded caused the Balrog’s primordial sword to burst into a rain of molten lava in an almost majestic way. It too belong to high elven king Turgon of the great hidden realm of Gondolin, surrounded by tallest mountains. Named Glamdring; meaning “Foe Hammer”. Gandalf broke the balrog’s unholy weapon. Epic right? His original staff broke when he let some of his true powers show to grant a miracle from his own life force. This is the same thing for how the elves do “magic” Galadriel herself tells Frodo and Sam that things elves do may seem like magic but they don’t really use such a word since they are one with the world, symbiotic with it if the world perished so would they. Just so you know; the balrog and Gandalf fought for 10 days straight. Then eldrich terrors(nameless things) assailed them both and they begrudgingly fought them off together and Gandalf resumed his chase of the balrog up the endless stairs of Dúrin’s Tower where they fought up at the top of ZirakZigil. Gandalf was given the ring of fire (Narya) by one of the oldest remaining elves from the first clans to wake beneath the stars before the sun and moon ever existed; at the Cuiviènen river named Círdan. Its best attribute was it raises the spirits of those who wear it. Bolstering internal strength and so forth. He knew it would aid Gandalf in his quest from the Valar and Eru Îlluvatar (the one AllFather) themselves to bolster the spirits of the free peoples of middle earth and to sow seeds of hope within the hearts of Men, Elves and Dwarves alike.
Pretty sure he acquired Glamdring in The Hobbit in the Troll den at the same time Bilbo found Sting! Neat detail tying the stories together. I haven't read it in a while, but I'm pretty sure that's where he got it. Also, if you pay attention you end up seeing all three Elvish Rings at the end of RotK. Right as they're boarding to leave The Grey Havens and sail West, you can see them on Galadriele, Elrond and Gandalf's hands. I believe you can see Galadriele's in TFotR too.
I stumbled on you guys looking for some "Frieren" reactions. Enjoyed them a lot, kept coming to see more, and now I'm looking forward to them every time. Then I saw the LOTR video, went in to check it just for fun, and somehow sat there for the whole duration, craving for more. 💀 Really glad you guys decided to go for full trilogy! One of the best react channels, with actual genuine reactions and attention to the shows and small details throughout the episodes/movies. You got a new fan! P.S. "My Dress Up Darling" videos had me rolling, some of the best ones! 🤣
At 27:33 you say, "This looks so cool!" Edoras was built in the middle of a remote nature reserve on the South Island (the interior scenes were shot in the studios at Wellington). It's a beautiful spot, but it is also a natural wind tunnel--none of the wind blowing Eowyn's hair or the flag is fake! At one point the wind blew Peter Jackson's glasses off his face and down the slope. After the shooting was over, by agreement the producers restored the scenery to its original appearance, and today there's no trace left of Edoras and the Golden Hall of Meduseld.
Faramir might be one of my favorite LotR characters of all time honestly, the way he mirrors Boromir's character arc was genuinly such a nice piece of writing. Him constantly being compared to the great achievements of his brother, always falling short, only to then resist the One Ring (sth. that Boromir in the end failed to do) is such a statisfying moment. The flashback of Boromir, Faramir and their father Denethor was really necessary to truely graps this dynamic IMO, such a shame it was cut from the theatrical release honestly. Looking forward to Return of the King, glad to see two more people join the ranks!
The movies are great but Jackson does a few characters no justice in his adaptation and Faramir probably gets it the worst. While Faramir does eventually resist the ring, he's a petty and lesser man in the movies. He's essentially throwing Boromir's death in their father's face with that message he's planning to send along with the ring. Don't care for this version of Denethor either but it's hard to really get into that before the third movie.
Bernard Hill was meant to be playing as King Theoden of Rohan, and thank God he did, " I go to my fathers, in whose mighty company, I shall not now feel ashamed ", RIP Bernard,
I literally just watched the extended versions at the cinema for the last 3 days. ❤ I’ve seen these about 50 times each and watched the original releases 3 times each at the cinema.
Cara is right about Elrond. He has seen lots change in Middle Earth. He was born at the end of the First Age, son of the greatest hero in history, and has lived through the Second Age, and now the Third Age. (Galadriel is even older.)
Frodo knew about Gollum because Gandalf told him (in Moria in the movie, in the book he did so still in the Shire, and more at Elrond’s Council). Now where did Gandalf get the info? Knowing Bilbo’s story about getting the ring from Gollum in his cave (for more watch The Hobbit movies), Gandalf figured Gollum would finally come out looking for Bilbo. When he did, Gandalf heard rumors of him, and sent Aragorn to hunt for Gollum. Aragorn captured him, and Gandalf interrogated him for his backstory. They turned Gollum over to Legolas’s people for safekeeping, but he escaped. So really, before Frodo ever sees Gollum, Gandalf, Aragorn, and probably Legolas had all spent time with him. Recent news is that Peter Jackson is returning to make a movie about all that - “The Hunt for Gollum”!
Frodo knows about smeagol because gandalf tells him about him while they are sitting in the mine of moria. Gandalf cant remember which direction to go so they are waiting for him to remember. Thats when frodo sees gollem following them and he tells gandalf
You may discover this later, but that's not a talking tree. He even said, "I am no tree. I am an ent." They are sentient, plant-like beings that herd and shepherd forests like cattle.
_The Rings of Power_ is Amazon Prime's show that is in the same world (and takes place thousands of years before) as _The Lord of the Rings_ but not nearly as good and completely ignores the source material. While Peter Jackson did change things in his movies, nothing he did is nearly as egregious as the liberties Amazon took.
It’s worse than you imagine - Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team. PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien, its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men. The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age. Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 300 years before or after the rings of power era. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar. The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool. (Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this. Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video. I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. ) There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. And they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings. They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it. The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups. I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example. PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices…. Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… “tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like. Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍 fact they downplayed Elendil, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
@@Makkaru112 Trust me. I watched it. Granted it was in a watch party with people who have never read the books. I was kicking and screaming after the first episode, while being told, "You're in it with the rest of us now. We can't stop until we've finished."
To better understand Arwen & Elrond (& Aragorn by extension) we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, their choice is because of their parents; (Eärendil & Elwing), both “half elven” made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age. Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand. After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died. But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children. Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤ Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there! When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West. Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter! They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh • By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them). but if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does. Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them ! Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 2500 year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(Oldest Elf in the world but even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father. And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm ! Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.) Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it. The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤ Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother) The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron, Radagast the Brown (you meet him in the Hobbit) are all ethereal beings sent to middle earth to guide the races. They are forbidden from interfering but they can offer council, guidance. Basically, they are angels who inhabit human form. Sauron corrupted early on and that's what brought the 5 wizards to middle earth. The other 2 of the 5 wizards live in the East, are blue and you never hear about them except in the writings outside of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
Gandalf (Olórin) is the same species of being as the Balrogs/Sauron before twisted by Melkor[Morgoth]. They are all Maiar (primordial spirits) created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will & individuality. He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf & lived among them whilst they were unknowing & he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar❤️ He could have very well dwelled with the elves far earlier just do to his curiosity & simple desire to explore and be around the firstborn (TheElves) Gandalf The Grey/White Estimated at 15,000 years old (following his quote "300 lives of men, I have walked this earth"), It says that Gandalf was the wisest of the Maiar besides Melian herself. There were a lot of Maiar that were considered really great and powerful. 300 lives of men, according to Tolkien, the average life span of a man is 70 years. So, 300 x 70 is 21000 years. (For his full ainur age but before the dawn of Arda Gandalf was ancient and timelessly so. Counting his time in Valinor it’s closer to 70,0000 years old. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) & the other Istari (the order sent around the same time & of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is & a student of the Vala by the name Nienna & Lorien(Irmo). Gandalf was one of the Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being & Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” & basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife; sadness; and longing. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea “Arien” is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon. Of which that other Maia was “Tillion” Galadriel herself not only witnessed this but as a student of Aulë and the other Valar she obviously had involvement in helping create the hallowed objects that housed the final flower of the silver tree Telperion that was the father of the moon and the mother of the sun was Laurëlin the golden tree and prior to the sun and moon they too used to wax and wane!
Fun Fact: After filming Viggo Mortenson (Aragorn) Bought the horse playing Brego and he (Brego) only passed away recently. A Note about Gondorians: As a people who had settled in Middle Earth after the destruction Numenor, they had the habit of sometimes committing their high-ranking dead to special boats, to drift out to sea and to when they sink to be reunited with the land they had left so long before. That Aragorn did so shows his knowledge of his people AND the high regard he had for Boromir.
The Nazgûl’s flying mount is not a dragon, but rather some kind of prehistoric species kept alive past its time by the dark powers. Tolkien refers to it as a “fell beast”, so people have come to call it a fellbeast. To see a Tolkien dragon, you’ll need to watch The Hobbit movies!
I always took the term “fell beast” to be the equivalent for the eagles that orcs became from the elves. They were twisted and perverted by the dark powers to make them what they were in LOTR
@@charlesedwards2856 Maybe so, and Tolkien's not definitive. I looked up the account where they land in the Pelennor Fields: ..."A creature of an older world maybe it was, whose kind, lingering in forgotten mountains cold beneath the moon, outstayed their day..."
25:45 IIRC, in the extended cut of Fellowship the conversation between Gandalf and Frodo in Moria goes into more detail about Smeagol, including his original name.
33:19 Gandalf is much more older than 10 thousand years. He's an Istar ("Wizard"), but Istari were all Maiar (spirits who existed long before the world itself). They took part in the Music where the world was sung and its story built.
30:20 One of Tolkien's themes is "pity" (we may say "mercy" these days). You saw it when Gandalf and Frodo speak about Gollum. Sparing Wormtongue's life is an act of mercy. "Do no be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends".
Gandalf casted Sauroman (sorry if spelled wrong) out of King Theoden's (sorry if spelled wrong) body, whom he had possessed. He had turned him into an weak old man before his time in order to try and rule his kingdom. I always liked when they talked of haven't hope throughout the movie. With Aragone riding with them they have hope. Hope is the meaning of Aragon's Elvish name.(He grew up in Rivendale with the Elves and got his Elfin name there).
A bog like that is a very dangerous place to traverse. There are places the look like solid ground, but really are just plants growing on the surface of the water so you step on them and down you go. Also, the water is deprived of nearly all oxygen, so there are no fish, and dead bodies do not decompose. The one they went through in this movie is where the big battle you see in the prologue took place.
Frodo learned who Smeagol was from Gandalf in an extended edition only scene in the first film. The same scene that Frodo said that Bilbo should've had pity and put Gollum out of his misery years before when he took the ring from him, and Gandalf said that pity stopped Bilbo from killing Gollum, and that he felt Gollum still had a larger role to play in all of this. That exchange, plus Frodo's hope that even Gollum [and by extension, himself] could be redeemed from the effects of the ring, are why he gives Gollum so much leniency when they first meet.
Éowyn’s FULL SONG in Rohirric Eotheod language + English translation below/ at Thèodred’s “funeral”•’Now dear Théodred lies in darkness, most loyal of fighters. The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior; nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup, nor good hawk swing through the hall, nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard. An evil death has set forth the noble warrior A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld That noble cousin, who always held me dear Now is held in darkness, enclosed.’ (Now in in the language of the Èitheod)❤ Nú on théostrum licgeth Théodred se léofa hæ´letha holdost. ne sceal hearpan sweg wigend weccean; ne winfæ´t gylden guma sceal healdan, ne god hafoc geond sæ´l swingan, ne se swifta mearh burhstede beatan. Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost. She sings this part in the movie: Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost. Éowyn is only heard singing the last four lines of the song, ending with the word Bealo, which in Old English meant "evil" or "harm". The first of those lines ("Bealocwealm hafað...") originates from the epic poem Beowulf, line 2265.) Dirge sung by Éowyn of Rohan about her uncles son who passed away. Hargander instruments play whilst her voice remains clear and true and resolute but full of longing and mourning, a flute plays in the mix as well but it’s normally chipper melody turns sorrowful as to show how Théodred was bright when he was alive, but now he passes away into the heavens Éowyn’s Lament Of Théodred
At 20:29 you say, "Oh, a dragon!" Well, not exactly--the creature the Black Rider is riding on is referred to as a Fell Beast, though that's more a description than a name. Tolkien's description is graphic: "The great shadow descended like a falling cloud. And behold! it was a winged creature: if bird, then greater than all other birds, and neither quill nor feather did it bear, and its vast pinions were as webs of hide between horned fingers, and it stank. A creature of an older world maybe it was...And the Dark Lord took it, and nursed it with fell meats, until it grew beyond the measure of all other things that fly; and he gave it to his servant to be its steed." There aren't any dragons in LOTR, but if you read The Hobbit or watch the Hobbit movies, you'll encounter Smaug, a truly terrifying dragon.
Legolas asking Gimli if he wanted a box to stand on has to be the best exchange in the whole trilogy, slightly behind their competition in the next one of which I will say no more for fear of spoilers. :P
The scene where Gollum is talking to himself going from Smeagel to Gollum got a round of applause in the theater when I saw it first release. A scene where a MoCap character carried a scene by himself had never been seen like that on screen before. Of course the great Andy Serkis fathered in a new wave of respect for the new MoCap technology in film making. I hope one day soon the academy finally gives this dude his flowers while he is still alive.
Excellent reaction! You two picked up on all the important points and your insights were dead on. It's quite enjoyable to see LOTR newbies get so excited by this amazing tale.
22:25 how long they fought? A total of 10 days, close to 48h fighting on that peak (the Balrog at first tries to flee, with Gandalf running behind him for 8 days lol)
Gandalf was the one who told Frodo about Gollum/Smeagol’s life back when they were in Moria in the first movie. I can’t remember if it was a scene only in the Extended Edition or not, but Gandalf gives Frodo a whole little tale about Sméagol’s past and why Bilbo pitied and spared him.
Guys amazing detail.. Look at 1:00:34.. You didnt show that scene for us but you saw it .. While Haldir is greeting Aragorn, Elvish soldiers didnt respond anything..But..While Legolas and Haldir greet each other, at that exact moment Elvish soldiers return to them and do respectful military standing salute. Because Legolas is the son and heir of King Thranduil. He is the prince of the Elven kingdom of Mirkwood. And the elves have great respect for the dynasty
Extended scenes at risk of being missed from Fellowship: 1• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin! (An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.) 2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time. 3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer. 4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall. 5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books). 6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel). That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn! 7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
When Gimli says "three days and nights pursuit" he's not lying. In three days he, Legolas & Aragorn ran on foot 45 leagues/217 kilometers/135 miles to keep up with the Uruk-hai. In the book it astonished Éomer so much he looked at Aragorn and said "Strider does not fit, I shall name thee Wingfoot and such a journey must be sung in every hall across the Riddermark"
This movie is SO much better in the extended edition. It's not just the extra scenes, but the re-edited and re-ordered scenes make, especially the Rohan part, so much more comprehensible.
25:55 Back when Bilbo left the Shire, including the Ring, Gandalf knew that the ring felt odd because of its effect on kind Bilbo, but Gandalf didn't know it was THE RING. So Gandalf left for 17 years to track the story of the ring Bilbo had. That means going back to the Misty Mountains and tracking Gollum, its previous owner. Then tracking how Gollum found the ring in the river Anduin. There in Anduin was where Isildur, Aragorn's ancestor, died. Once Gandalf was almost certain that it was THE RING, he went to Gondor to find notes written by Isildur, and discovered how to "test" that it was THE RING: by throwing it into the fire. Gandalf heads back to the Shire to do the test, then retell the Ring's entire story to Frodo, including Gollum's backstory. Funny you should ask how Frodo knows about Smeagol/Gollum's story, because right now, there are talks of another film trilogy that will be about "The Hunt for Gollum", pertaining to Gandalf, Aragorn, and even Legolas, hunting and tracking Gollum for those 17 years, then finding out more about Gollum's backstory. Peter Jackson (and the other leaders of this trilogy) shall return as the backbone. Andy Serkis himself will both star as Gollum and direct. Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn) and Sir Ian McKellen (Gandalf) both said they'd be willing to come back to Middle Earth, especially since Peter is leading. I do wonder if they'll go full dark and gory with it? Peter Jackson toned down Gollum's past to sell his grey side in this trilogy. But Gollum did a lot of things that would never garner him sympathy. Also, there's an incoming anime about Rohan! Philippa Boyens, one of the screenwriters/writers in this trilogy, is a producer of the anime. Miranda Otto (Eowyn) reprises her role, probably as narrator. A chance to see other Shield Maidens of Rohan! Also, prayers for Sir Ian McKellen. He was just hospitalized for an accident in one of his theater performances :(
Two Towers builds off of Fellowship of the Ring. Without Fellowship you don’t know how they get to Two Towers. 🤷🏾 When will people stop saying “Let’s go” ❤😂
Rings of Power is absolutely awful. Not worth it. The Hobbit tho, even though more made for a younger audience, is still such a fun group of movies. Def would recommend the extended versions of those films much like the Lord of the Rings!
Great reaction! The mire in the books was based on Tolkien's experiences at the Battle of the Somme during World War One. The battle had been fought, and a bloody and gruesome one it had been, and then rains came, downpours, that flooded all the low lying areas of the battlefield and left soldiers of both sides lying under water, some so obviously torn up that there was no doubt that they were dead and others looking almost unwounded, as if they were sleeping silently under the waters that covered their lifeless forms. Absolute nightmare fuel I'm sure, but it certainly fed the images of the silent soldiers (coincidentally from some of the battles depicted at the start of the first movie when Sauron was defeated) lying under the water and waiting for the living to come too close... As I remember, each of the extended edition DVDs I own came with a 'making of' DVD which was filled with all kinds of incredible information. Like the fact that each of the three runners chasing the Uruk-Hai were dealing with injuries. Viggo the aforementioned broken toe, Orlando had damaged ribs I think, and the short stand-in for Gimli had been injured in his leg I believe. There were quite a few injuries in these movies but, for the most part, the actors just powered through them all like legends. Hama, the door guard who let Gandalf keep his staff, knew what he was doing, absolutely. His king was unwell, and since nothing else could help him, Hama thought that perhaps the wizard could. And did. If you notice when Gamling goes to draw his sword as Gandalf moves toward Theoden, Hama grabs his hand and keeps him from doing so. Hama was hoping that Gandalf could help the king and was willing to risk the displeasure of Grima Wormtongue to allow him to try. His king was all but lost already. How could the situation get worse? Bernard Hill, in a cast of amazing actors doing amazing work, has always stood out to me for his work as Theoden, King of Rohan. It was easy to believe that he was Theoden. He played every aspect of the character brilliantly. Whenever I read the books my mental images now are of this excessively awesome cast as the characters they portrayed. To the point that I can't even remember how I used to picture Aragorn, Gandalf, Saruman, and Theoden before. My late father started reading these books to me and my little sister as a bedtime story nightly over the course of a year or so when I was ten and my sister was six. It has been 46 years since I was ten, and I can still remember lying in bed and picturing everything as he read. All the stuff that Grima tells Saruman is stuff he already knows, but it just confirms it all. Saruman is older even and was wiser even than Gandalf, which is why he was the leader of the five wizards. Unfortunately once he began relying on the Palantir for information, Sauron was able to corrupt him and twist him toward madness, driving him away from his purpose and making him a willing tool and ally of one who views him in the same way Saruman viewed the wild men who he sent to torch the Westfold. Useful but expendable. But Saruman's purpose is that he is almost as clever as Sauron, and so after corrupting Grima he uses Grima's knowledge to confirm what he believes to be true. "I can fight!" "NO! You must do this. For me." It's not a cage, it is a responsibility. With the king's son's death and Eomer's banishment and uncertain status, Eowyn is effectively the last of the royal family. She HAS to stay with the people just in case Theoden falls in this battle, because her people MUST have one of the royal family with them to follow. I suppose in some ways it is a cage, but it is one of blood obligation. As the only present heir to the throne, she has to be the one to lead her people to safety. Yes, the five wizards (of which we only see two, and only one other, Radagast the Brown, is briefly talked about in the books) are, for all intents and purposes, angels. Sent by the greater powers, their purpose was to help the free peoples of Middle Earth to become strong enough to stand against evil on their own. Which is also why they rarely use their powers, otherwise the free peoples will become reliant on the wizards and become even weaker. Wizards are, like the elves, effectively immortal and while they can be killed, as Gandalf was in the battle against the Balrog, they are usually wise enough to not put themselves into a position where that is likely to happen. Gandalf had little choice as the Ringbearer chose Moria and Gandalf fought an agent of evil as powerful as Gandalf to both their deaths. It sucks, but it had to be done so the movie wouldn't be even longer. Denethor, father of Boromir and Faramir, has more issues than just being a dick. He was less disposed towards Faramir in the books because his beloved wife died in childbirth with Faramir, and Faramir was more interested in the things that the old wizard who occasionally came to Gondor (Gandalf) would teach him than he was in the warfare and such that his father stressed. But the biggest problem Denethor had was that he had a Palantir that he tried to use to spy on Sauron, to know what Sauron was planning and doing so he could fight him more effectively. Unfortunately, as Sauron had corrupted the Palantiri, all Denethor saw was what Sauron wished him to see, and Sauron gradually corrupted his mind and drove him mad. And that is why he was such a hateful dick, because he was insane, though he could still (barely) do the job he was expected to do. And because of this Boromir was pressured so much that he was easily tempted by the ring, and Faramir was relegated to useless duties by his hateful father. But to put all this backstory into the movie would have added an hour or so to an already long movie, so no go. I've heard multiple people say that everyone needs a Sam in their life, but it is also true, as one reviewer said, that everyone should also try to be a Sam in someone else's life. God bless all the Sams in the world. 🙂
Respectfully, I think you’ve forgotten how great the first film is. That whole Moria sequence, Gandalfs Fall, and Boromir’s redemption. Of all the films, it feels the most like an adventure. I think you should rewatch it with the extended edition.
The first film is my favourite too, for more or less the same reason, the sense of wonder and honest adventure was more palpable but I know many people who like the subsequent releases more because of the higher-octane action. Just people being people.
There is no way that this video will NOT get 1,500k likes so I hope you just watch the next movie soon so we can get it sooner too. I'm so excited. Love the reaction, especially Cara's so much.
Frodo knew about Smeagol because in the first one while in Moria, Gandalf realized that Gollum was following them and told Frodo about him and how Bilbo spared his life. Also, I don't know if you noticed - during the scene with Smeagol/Gollum arguing with each other...his pupils change depending on who is speaking at the time. Large pupils are Smeagol, small pupils are Gollum, and it continues throughout the movie as well. I really hope you guys read the books as well at some point. The part with Gimli and Legolas keeping score is also in the book and it is so hilarious because it'll just pop up every so often, one of them will call out a number, then it'll go into another thread of the story and come back a few chapters later and they're still keeping track lol!
In the 1970s cartoon adaptation of Lord of the Rings they thought people would get confused by Sauron/Saruman, so they changed his name to ''Aruman''. xD
At 1:00:00 Gimli's ill-fitting chain mail is a little throwaway gag, not repeated. In the book, Gimli already wore chain mail of Dwarf make, better than anything Rohan could offer. He did accept a helm, though, and a shield. Note that Weta Workshop had two guys working full time cranking out real chain mail made of plastic rings, each ring fitting into four others. In the process they wore off their fingerprints!
The book was intended to be a single book divided into six sections/acts. The publisher convinced Tolkien to just divide it into 3 books as it was quite long. They later ended up publishing an edition as a single book divided into 3 sections. It's worth noting that many fantasy series today are longer per book with way more books in the series, and some individual books are nearly the length of the entire LotR trilogy.
Gondor didn't have any troops to spare either, they were preoccupied with defending their boarders from Mordor, including Osgiliath and Cair Andross at the north-western boarder to Rohan.
At 25:52 you ask, "Can you guys explain why or how Frodo knew who Smeagol was?" In FOTR, Gandalf explains Smeagol's story to Frodo in the Mines of Moria. In the book, the explanation occurs very early in the story, when Frodo and Gandalf are still at Bag End.
The explanation occurs earlier in the movie too. It opens with Bilbo finding the ring and then Gandalf explains the reason they have to leave The Shire is because Gollum told Sauron about Baggins having it
Gandalf 'magic' you'll notice is limited mostly to fire, like heating up Aragorns sword, lighting up Moria, and fireworks. His mission is to "light a fire in the hearts men." His main power is in his counsel. He doesn't force people to do things but advises them.
The part about the dead marshes includes Legolas’s Father; Thranduil, & Thranduil’s father Oropher, were to join the Last Alliance in from a different angle to achieve a certain war tactic but Oropher and others got waylayed by orcs & many corrupted men which lead to eventually Oropher dying there, this loss effected Legolas’s father so very deeply forevermore. The bond between he and his son is the same bond Thranduil has with Legolas. And the braid he wears is to honour his grandfather. I believe after his death braids became less common. A sort of respect thing I believe. Both his father and Grandfather lived in Doriath(Elu Thingol’s domain[Elwë], which was heartbea of middle earth; Aside from Gondolin which held this mantle until it’s secret location was given up by a tortured elf who was the son of a very important mother who was the sister of the high king Turgon). All on a landmass called Beleriand that sunk under the sea after a set of disastrous events that lead to many greater outcomes much later on in the legendarium. This here is a whole set of stories of which also includes a quite a bit of Galadriel too but moreso other characters during this era. Of Beren And Lùthien comes to mind and Children Of Hurin!! You’ll fall in love even more after the third movie. Then you can enter into the lore videos like Moviejoob and OmarioRPG have done reaction videos too. Amazing stuff. One thing to add though is this scene resembles a lot from the other battle Tolkien was involved in called The Battle Of Somme. Look into it and tell me your thoughts. I’ll add something here though: that clan of elves really didn’t like being under the command of anyone else so they went ahead without the order and let’s just say it didn’t end well. That and they weren’t fond of the Ñoldor… huge history there as to why that is. That and the Sindar subgroup of these clans were a tiny bit more isolationist. But there are many amazing Sindar in the legendarium too Elrond and his two sons and daughter are connected to all of the main clans of men and elves through the union of his half elf father and full elf(quarter goddess) mother. Who essentially played a huge role in saving the world from the original dark lord Morgoth. Gained the Favour Of Valinor. Which subsequently lead to Numenor being a gift from the sea to the men who helped. Becoming blessed. Their land existing within the light of Valinor as it was situated closely to The Undying Lands. (The same ancestry Aragorn has that Èowyn spoke of while they were travelling to Helm’s Deep! (Elrond’s Twin Brother became the first king of Númenor. His name becoming Tar-Minyatur, and those faithful to Eru, the elves and the natural world all of this line carried Tar before their name! Ar for Aragorn is the word meaning Noble in his tongue called Adúnaic. That too is a fleshed out language Tolkien created too. Elvish languages also were placed into the official list of world languages too!
I know I say this every time I watch LOTR reactions but here goes: the creatures ridden by the Nazgul are not Dragons. Though not formally named in the books, they are referred to as "Fell Beasts," a generic term used by Tolkien which includes any dark, monstrous creature. Furthermore, the Wizards are not human, they are eternal immortal beings called Maiar, the equivalent of Angels, who serve The Valar, or Gods (The Valar in turn serve Eru, The One, whom the Elves call Illuvitar). Some of these Maiar were sent to Middle Earth in the guise of wise old men to aid the peoples of Middle Earth, & advise them in their struggles against Sauron. Sauron & the Balrog Gandalf fought in Moria are also Maiar, albeit it fallen Angels. Loving your reactions guys! 😄
Of all the characters, of all the actors in this movie... I like Grima Wormtongue the most. His enunciation, timbre and position of power is downright amazing. I'd pay so much money to hear Brad Dourif voice over an audiobook.
Gríma actually played a major role in the story of The Lord of the Rings prior to his first appearance in The Two Towers. In Unfinished Tales, Tolkien writes that on September 20 in 3018 Gríma was captured by the Nazgûl in the fields of Rohan, while on his way to Isengard to tell Saruman of Gandalf's arrival at Edoras. He was interrogated and divulged what he knew of Saruman's plans to the Nazgûl, specifically his interest in the Shire and its location, revealing the wizard's two-facedness towards the Dark Lord Sauron. Previously, the location of the Shire had been unknown to the Nazgûl, but they knew it to be the home of "Baggins," whom they thought still had the Ring. Wormtongue was set free, for the Lord of the Nazgûl saw that he would not dare tell anyone of their meeting and he guessed that he would be of much use to the Dark Lord (being a capable opportunist), while doing harm to the turncoat White Wizard in the future. The Nazgûl set out immediately for the Shire. Had the Ringwraiths not captured Gríma, they would instead have pursued Gandalf into Rohan, and possibly not have found the Shire until much later, giving the Hobbits and then the Fellowship of the Ring a considerable head start.
Gandalf it´s one of the five Istari... sent to the middle earth by the Valar. With Saruman, it´s also Gandalf, Radagast and the two blue wizards. Saruman was the white because he was chosen as the leader of all them. When he turned to evil... the God Ilúvatar chose a new leader.... returning Gandalf as Gandalf the white.
I think it's really understated just how important the short scene of the mother reuniting with her children at helms deep is. If it weren't for that glimmer of hope the battle for helms deep would be so much more of an emotional slog
John Rhys Davies, the actor who plays Gimli, is 6'1" and he plays a dwarf, hilarious! The orc killing contest between Gimli and Legolas are in the books!
It’s only covered in the books and not the movies, but the reason why Frodo knew about Sméagol’s name is because after being captured by Mordor, Gollum was captured and interrogated a second time by Aragorn and Gandalf, and kept in the custody of Legolas’s people. Gandalf had managed to uncover his backstory, which he then filled Frodo in on. That’s actually why Legolas was in Rivendell, to report to Gandalf that Gollum had escaped captivity.
I'm going to make a running list of commentary. Full disclosure, I've not read the books I've just listened to a lot of people who have 1) Grima was released to see where his loyalty was. He was told to choose, ride to war with your people or go to your boss 2) Frodo feels sorry for Gollum because he was a ring bearer like him. He understands why Gollum is what he is and he fears it. Frodo has hope that Gollum will be ok because he wants to believe he will be ok 3) you are correct. The wizards are not human. They are closer to a demigod and we're put there to do a job. Because Saruman isn't doing his, Gandalf has been sent back to do it instead 4) Elrond certainly has been through spending eternity without his love. His wife was captured by orcs and tortured to the point she never recovered. She went to the undying lands a long time ago (side note. The undying lands are what the elves get instead of an afterlife. Mortals die and go back to the Middle Earth version of god. Elves live forever and go to the undying lands when they are done with Middle Earth) 5) a massive theme through these films is answering the call to change. Not for the sake of blood or honour, but because you have to. Especially the Hobbits. Frodo only wanted to go home after taking the ring to Rivendell. But he saw that the only way was for him to do it. Makes a lot of sense given when these books were written
The beings that Gandalf, Saruman, and yes even Sauron, are called Maiar. They were essentially angel-like beings hence why they’re so powerful and able to live for so long. When Gandalf and Saruman were sent to Middle Earth by the Valar (essentially much higher angel-like beings; basically like Arch Angels) they took on the forms of old men and had their powers and memories reduced greatly. There were 3 others sent along with them, Radagast the Brown, and 2 unnamed Blue Wizards. Their mission was to support, guide, and advise the races of Middle Earth in fighting against Sauron. (Sauron has been on Middle Earth for a far longer time than any of the wizards and has done a lot more crazy shit long before he made the One Ring.) Like I said, Sauron used to be a Maiar like the wizards, but an evil Valar named Melkor/Morgoth corrupted Sauron and many other Maiar (which he actually turned into Balrogs; that demon thing Gandalf fought in Moria). After Morgoth was long defeated Sauron took up the mantle as his successor. The thing about these beings is that even if their physical bodies are damaged/destroyed their spirits can still live on and wander the world for many many years until they’re able to regain another physical body, which is what happened to Sauron after he lost the One Ring.
Bilbo met Gollum in his adventures in "The Hobbit." (I don't recommend the movies). This is briefly touched on in the prologue of the Fellowship. Biblo wrote about his adventures and told Frodo. That's why in the first movie, Frodo says "It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill him when he had the chance." And then in this movie, Frodo reminds Gollum that he had seen Sting (the sword) before, because that was Bilbo's sword.
Some major changes from the book that I don't agree with: * Gimli as comic relief. In the book he is just as serious, heroic and capable as everyone else * Faramir as a carbon copy of Boromir. In the book the whole point is that Faramir is a better man than his brother. He recognises and rejects the Ring's temptation right away
What a fun reaction! I love the investment and enthusiasm 😃 It's certainly possible Gríma poisoned Théodred (the king's son) in the movies, but Théodred didn't even make it back to Edoras in the books; he died on the battlefield where Éomer found him. Also, Éomer and Éowyn are the children of Théoden's sister, Théodwyn - he didn't have a brother 🙂
By the way.. The voice of Treebeard are John-Rhys Davis voice. And he is the actor who played Gimli. His voice was so deep and on point that they didn't need to change it by the computer
Frodo knows about Gollum because Bilbo had his interactions with him in the past. The first movie partly opened with Bilbo finding the ring in Gollums cave. And later on in the first movie Gandalf explains to Frodo that the reason they have to escape the Shire is that Gollum kinda snitched on where the ring was, because he knew a Baggins had it. And when they where in Moria they saw Gollum following them, Gandalf also told Frodo about that then
The love on the first movie was INSANE thank you guys! We're actually doing the extended versions now so hopefully that's something😭
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You’d have loved it even more with so much more character building and world building for fellowship. React to the movie all over again extended edition. Remember that it was never meant to be cut up like this. Let me explain why in my next comment.
Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in the theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result.
Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons.
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Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart.
But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again.
The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️).
Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film.
It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!”
It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad. Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
The version is extended. My delight is splendid.
Very pleased you decided to watch the Extended Edition. You would have lost scenes like the Trees showing up at Helm's Deep, Aragorn explaining how old he is,, Aragorn calming and then freeing Brego the Horse...etc.
The third movie is going to leave you gobsmacked. It won 11 Oscars - including Best Picture - for good reason. It had professional movie critics saying things like "I don't know what to say. For the first time in my career I am speechless."
The third one has 5 of the best endings EVER
@@Mcvthree3 can't tell if sarcasm....but either way, yes lol
@molonlabe1509 well, I LOVE those movies and consider them the greatest cinematic achievement ever. But the ending of ROTK DOES fake you out several times with all those fadeouts to black and white.
Myself, I was ALWAYS glad when a new scene started and I could stay in Middle Earth longer.
@@Mcvthree3 completely 100% agree with you, my friend. I think Jackson did it right, but it also would have been at least acceptable with any one of the fadeouts. Tying it up and ending it with Sam though, as the book did, was perfection
@@Mcvthree3 awesome! :)
Tolkien was in the Battle of the Somme. It lasted from July 1-Nov. 13, 1916. They bombarded each others lines before they “went over the top” into “no man’s land”. The Dead Marshes is what no man’s land looked like craters filled with water with dead soldiers that couldn’t crawl out having been wounded.
Intéressant à savoir, une info insolite. 🎉
Tolkien went into no man's land and the swampy craters looking for his friend, Jeffery, assisted by his own manservant
15:36 Eomer and Eowyn are the children of Theoden King's youngest sister, Theodwyn. Their father Eomund was the Third Marshal of the Riddermark (Rohan's third highest military title), the same position Eomer now holds, except that the job is a lot bigger for Eomer, both because the times are darker and because currently there is no effective First or Second Marshal. The First Marshal is the king, who obviously isn't doing his job, and the Second Marshal was Theodred, the king's son. Theodred and Eomer have been working together to protect Rohan, without their king's help, for about a year now, but when Theodred died doing that, no one was appointed to replace him, so the whole task fell on Eomer's shoulders, which is why he's still trying to do it even though (in the movie) he's been banished.
21:20 "Ringwraith" is another word for Nazgul or Black Rider. It refers to the person riding the winged creature, not the winged creature itself. That said, you're right that the winged creature is not actually a dragon. It's a fell beast, probably related to dragons, but MUCH smaller and weaker than real dragons. Real dragons went extinct about 78 years ago, or at least the last one known to exist died then. That's why they don't play a role in this war.
28:07 I think Hama knew exactly what he was doing when he let Gandalf bring his staff into Meduseld. The line about "parting an old man from his walking stick" just gave him a semi-plausible excuse. I think he was hoping Gandalf would be able to do something about Theoden's condition, or at least Wormtongue's presence.
33:15 "Three hundred lives of Men" is quite cryptic, but estimating a human lifespan and multiplying by three hundred gives a length of time much longer than the two thousand years or so that Gandalf has been visiting Middle-earth as a Wizard, and more than twice as long as even the seven thousand years of the history of the race of Men in Middle-earth. It seems Gandalf has to be referring to the entire time since he first set foot on "this earth" -- when he was helping to create it, before the Elves or the Ents existed, let alone Dwarves or Men or Hobbits. That would make this line the only time in the movies that Gandalf gives even the slightest hint of his true - top secret - identity.
36:30 No, there is nothing romantic between Eowyn and Theodred. Not only are they cousins, but his father took her and Eomer into the family as his own when Eowyn was only seven, meaning that she grew up thinking of Theodred basically as her oldest brother. So the love you see her showing at his bedside is the love of a little sister, not of a romantic partner.
Excellent comment!
Hama even holds the other guards back when Gandalf approaches Theoden, while Grima's guys get in the fight with Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli. He knew exactly what was going on.
Another little detail the boy Aragorn talks to on the steps in helms deep was Hama’s son, just a cool tie in
The 300 lives of men thing is just nonsense by the writers of the films. Gandalf in his various forms has been around over 50,000 years
@@dmc1605the Dunedain had a lifespan of about 150-170 years, making movies Gandalf's claim of living over 300 lifetimes of men correct.
"this one has made me like LOTR" we got another one boys and girls!
*and girls
I think The Two Towers probably is the one that hooks people the most into the movies. I see very few that really love The Fellowship of the Ring more than The Two Towers and Return of the King.
Guardian- I like FotR best, lol, but I love world building and deep dives into the why and who and where the action and relationships going forward are built on.
Mind, the trilogy as a whole is wonderful and a perfect total balance. But if I had to choose it is the first where you start the journey into this world.
Unpopular opinion; two towers is the best of the three. My all time favourite
a predictebla outcome if i may say so :)
Rest in Peace Bernard Hill aka King Theoden 5/5/24
Favorite quote of his character
"Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this?"
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He was perfect in this role
Hail the victorious dead!
Where was Gondor when......
48:00 Elrond does indeed know the pain of a lost love. His wife Celebrian (Galadriel and Celeborn's daughter) was kidnapped and tortured by orcs. Their twin sons (who don't appear in the films, unfortunately) rescued her but the trauma was too great and in order to not die of grief she sailed to the Undying Lands, leaving her husband and children behind. Arwen choosing mortality means she'll never be able to reunite with her mother, or the rest of her family. Elrond still had his duty to Middle Earth so he could not go with Celebrian, so for centuries he was effectively a mourning widower.
His brother also chose to be mortal, thousands of years ago
I just want so say its been such a joy watching Cara come around to loving the movies.
Glad you enjoyed!
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Idk if you guys are still looking at these, but King Theodin’s actor was approached in a store by an older woman who had heard he had been casted into this role. She connected especially with that character because she had lost a child. The line “no parent should have to bury their child” came from her
You can't blame Frodo for pitying Gollum as they've both had the Ring. Frodo needs to believe Gollum can be redeemed so that there's hope for himself. In the extended version of _Fellowship of the Ring_ during Frodo's discussion with Gandalf in Moria, Gandalf gives exposition on Gollum. Frodo basically just regurgitates everything he heard from Gandalf.
Grima is basically working with Saruman to disable Rohan's army which operates on a Three-Marshal system. Theoden, the king, is the First Marshal, responsible for mustering and preparing Rohan's military for war. The king's son Theodred and the king's nephew Eomer are Second and Third Marshals, respectively. Their roles are not defined and are based on the tasks given to them by the First Marshal. By taking over Theoden's mind, Saruman ensures no one can replace the king in the role of First Marshal. As Theoden is 66 years old, his extreme aging and absence of mind could have been seen by the people of Rohan as the result of natural causes. By killing Theodred and exiling Eomer (in the book, Eomer is imprisoned), Grima & Saruman effectively ensure there is no one to mobilize Rohan's military, so that Saruman's eventual invasion would be met with little to no resistance. That is, until Gandalf arrives with Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli and heals the king.
Theoden can't kill Grima, although I don't like the change that Peter Jackson makes in having Aragorn being the one to convince the king. As far as the people of Rohan know, Grima was very much loyal to the king. To kill him would raise suspicion. In the books, Theoden does offer Grima a chance at redemption - either ride to war alongside Rohan, or to go into exile. Aragorn doesn't say or do anything about it because he's not the king of Rohan.
Theoden in the book does actually try to fight Saruman openly. He takes a force (including Aragorn) and rides directly towards Isengard. On the way, the king hears that the group defending the Fords of the river Isen has been defeated, so Gandalf advises him to seek refuge in Helm's Deep.
The Men of Numenor, at the height of the island kingdom's power, had an average lifespan of 200 to 300 years. By the time of _The Lord of the Rings_ the blood of Numenor had waned significantly. Only very specific descendants, known as the Dunedain, had increased life - living 150 to 170 years.
The thing about Helm's Deep is that it's never been defeated in Rohan's entire history. It's walls have literally never been breached. The people of Rohan have no reason to think there's any kind of weakness in the fortress's defense.
Elrond has experienced the pain of losing his family before. Due to the deeds of his father Earendil at the end of the First Age, both Elrond and his twin brother Elros were given the choice to either be couinted among Elves or to live as mortal Men. Elrond chose to remain an Elf, while Elros chose be a Man. Elros would eventually found the island kingdom of Numenor, serving as its first king and living to 500 years old. Aragorn is a distant descendant of Elros. Technically, this means Arwen and Aragorn are related, just many times removed. Make of that information what you will.
The movies are not good about portraying this, but Saruman and specifically Sauron are very clever strategically. While the focus is on Helm's Deep, there are battles happening on multiple fronts. While it's optimistic of Aragorn to advise the king to look for aid, Theoden is right that no one would come. The Elves at Helm's Deep is a Peter Jackson change meant to demonstrate that all the Free Peoples of Middle-earth have their own battles to fight, but imo it undermines Helm's Deep as the first real instance of why Sauron fears Aragorn and that the race of Men is indeed strong as - with Aragorn's leadership - they win against overwhelming odds.
The Ents attacking Isengard is probably the most important event in this movie. Sure, the Men of Rohan survive the defense of Helm's Deep, but if the Ents don't do anything, Saruman could just build another army and attack at any time. Without the Ents, the next movie happens VERY differently.
"I am Aragorn, son of Arathorn. This is Gimli, son of Gloin. And Legolas, son of ... the Woodland Realm and we'll leave it at that, 'kay?"
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[enter Shadowfax]
Gandalf: "This is Bill the Pony. He also got an upgrade. It was for helping me fight the Balrog. Bill didn't run off like the rest of you."
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Hama, the doorwarden of Meduseld wasn't an idiot. :) He was true to Theoden. He knew it was Grima's command that kept weapons out of the hall. He let Gandalf in with his staff on purpose, even though he didn't say it.
Loved that character, too bad he got eaten by a warg 🤣
Much can be and has been said of the reactors though, using the same or similar words. 😂😅❤
@@Big_Texin the books he wasn’t. He was epic. Heck, even Éomer had alot more presence in the third book compared to the films. Same with Elronds twin sons. Heavily present in that battle and the black ships plot
The boy Aragorn talks to in Helm's deep is Hama's son.
Yeah, and just minutes later, we see him stop the other Rohan soldiers from aiding Grima. He let Gandalf in because he knew Gandalf was the only person who could help free Theoden and save Rohan. The man is one of those unsung heroes of LOTR.
The Fellowship was made up of 1 ring bearer. 4 warriors (elf, man, dwarf, direct descendent of ancient high men), 1 wizard (essentially angel in Tolkien's lore), and 3 best friends. Putting skill, divine help, and friendship all on the same footing. You need all 3 to make it. You can't do it with either alone. Amd Sam 's loyalty is about as pure as you can imagine.
Let this be the hour when we draw swords together. Fell deeds awake. Now for wrath! Now for ruin! And a red dawn!
Fourth Eolingas!!”
*Forth
Death!!!!
The Elvish rope is magic and sort of just "knows" to untie when you need it.
I’ve never been able to tell if this is true or just a joke that Sam’s knots are bad. In the books they never explicitly mention this ability. But it could just be “elven magic” so who knows. If someone has does, please share haha
@@WickhaamSam's knots were actually really good it was just the magical properties in the elven rope pretty much everything the elves touch is imbued with it, its the same with their elven cloaks
I’m a lifelong musician and film lover and every time I revisit these films I’m flabbergasted by how perfectly the music not only captures the thematic motion of the films but enhances it. It’s masterful filmmaking
"No parent should have to bury their child" aaaaaaalways immediately brings on the tears.
Faramir does NOT abuse Gollum or go to Osgiliath in the book. He is a man of deep deep integrity.
They did my boy so dirty.
@@iron-thorneyeah, and all that smeagol abuse always makes me go "cmon man!"
I like how this implies that going to Osgiliath violates his integrity.
Sam makes a cheeky nod to this in the movie. "By rights, we shouldn't even be here" -Sam
Definitely true. I understand why they made this choice in the films, however. If Faramir was as unaffected by the ring as in the book, it would undermine the threat of the ring in the story. Same as if they’d included Tom Bombadil.
the final credits of the 3rd movie deserve to be watched. The song by Annie Lennox is beautiful, it won the Oscar.
Many don’t even listen ever so it’ll be quite cool if they do. I mean the one with so and so and Amber did with enya and they were blown away.
Yes, this! I love watching the credits to all three, but especially the third
All the title credit tracks are great, for all 3 movies!
Just before The Battle of the Hornburg took place at the mountain fortress of the Hornburg in the valley of Helm's Deep in Rohan, Aragorn is seen talking with the youthful "Haleth, son of Háma" encouraging him by saying: " There is always hope".
Háma was Théoden's Door Guard at Edoras when Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli arrived to meet with the king. It was Háma who allowed Gandalf to enter with his staff. In the movie, Háma is killed by the first Warg-rider scout when Théoden and his people are ambushed on the road to the Hornburg. In the book Háma was present at the Battle of the Hornburg, and died defending the gates of the Hornburg. He was buried at Helm's Deep after the battle.
4:03 .. It's actually EXTREMELY important gift from Galadriel .. one that saves something very VERY important in books but it's not shown in movies ;)
The sword Gandalf wielded caused the Balrog’s primordial sword to burst into a rain of molten lava in an almost majestic way. It too belong to high elven king Turgon of the great hidden realm of Gondolin, surrounded by tallest mountains. Named Glamdring; meaning “Foe Hammer”. Gandalf broke the balrog’s unholy weapon. Epic right?
His original staff broke when he let some of his true powers show to grant a miracle from his own life force. This is the same thing for how the elves do “magic” Galadriel herself tells Frodo and Sam that things elves do may seem like magic but they don’t really use such a word since they are one with the world, symbiotic with it if the world perished so would they.
Just so you know; the balrog and Gandalf fought for 10 days straight. Then eldrich terrors(nameless things) assailed them both and they begrudgingly fought them off together and Gandalf resumed his chase of the balrog up the endless stairs of Dúrin’s Tower where they fought up at the top of ZirakZigil.
Gandalf was given the ring of fire (Narya) by one of the oldest remaining elves from the first clans to wake beneath the stars before the sun and moon ever existed; at the Cuiviènen river named Círdan. Its best attribute was it raises the spirits of those who wear it. Bolstering internal strength and so forth. He knew it would aid Gandalf in his quest from the Valar and Eru Îlluvatar (the one AllFather) themselves to bolster the spirits of the free peoples of middle earth and to sow seeds of hope within the hearts of Men, Elves and Dwarves alike.
Pretty sure he acquired Glamdring in The Hobbit in the Troll den at the same time Bilbo found Sting!
Neat detail tying the stories together.
I haven't read it in a while, but I'm pretty sure that's where he got it.
Also, if you pay attention you end up seeing all three Elvish Rings at the end of RotK.
Right as they're boarding to leave The Grey Havens and sail West, you can see them on Galadriele, Elrond and Gandalf's hands.
I believe you can see Galadriele's in TFotR too.
I stumbled on you guys looking for some "Frieren" reactions. Enjoyed them a lot, kept coming to see more, and now I'm looking forward to them every time.
Then I saw the LOTR video, went in to check it just for fun, and somehow sat there for the whole duration, craving for more. 💀
Really glad you guys decided to go for full trilogy!
One of the best react channels, with actual genuine reactions and attention to the shows and small details throughout the episodes/movies. You got a new fan!
P.S. "My Dress Up Darling" videos had me rolling, some of the best ones! 🤣
Thank you so much! This comment genuinely made our day knowing you enjoyed multiple shows from us!❤️
At 27:33 you say, "This looks so cool!" Edoras was built in the middle of a remote nature reserve on the South Island (the interior scenes were shot in the studios at Wellington). It's a beautiful spot, but it is also a natural wind tunnel--none of the wind blowing Eowyn's hair or the flag is fake! At one point the wind blew Peter Jackson's glasses off his face and down the slope. After the shooting was over, by agreement the producers restored the scenery to its original appearance, and today there's no trace left of Edoras and the Golden Hall of Meduseld.
Faramir might be one of my favorite LotR characters of all time honestly, the way he mirrors Boromir's character arc was genuinly such a nice piece of writing. Him constantly being compared to the great achievements of his brother, always falling short, only to then resist the One Ring (sth. that Boromir in the end failed to do) is such a statisfying moment. The flashback of Boromir, Faramir and their father Denethor was really necessary to truely graps this dynamic IMO, such a shame it was cut from the theatrical release honestly.
Looking forward to Return of the King, glad to see two more people join the ranks!
Many things show he was meant to be in Rivendell/Imladris. He had way more dreams and visions than Boromir ever did.
The movies are great but Jackson does a few characters no justice in his adaptation and Faramir probably gets it the worst. While Faramir does eventually resist the ring, he's a petty and lesser man in the movies. He's essentially throwing Boromir's death in their father's face with that message he's planning to send along with the ring. Don't care for this version of Denethor either but it's hard to really get into that before the third movie.
Maybe the best example of editing in a long film ever. The way the stories are woven together is masterful.
Bernard Hill was meant to be playing as King Theoden of Rohan,
and thank God he did,
" I go to my fathers, in whose mighty company, I shall not now feel ashamed ", RIP Bernard,
My only regret is that I can like this post just once.
I literally just watched the extended versions at the cinema for the last 3 days. ❤ I’ve seen these about 50 times each and watched the original releases 3 times each at the cinema.
Sam's speech is wonderful. Lots of people really needed to hear it these last few years.
Cara is right about Elrond. He has seen lots change in Middle Earth. He was born at the end of the First Age, son of the greatest hero in history, and has lived through the Second Age, and now the Third Age. (Galadriel is even older.)
Frodo knew about Gollum because Gandalf told him (in Moria in the movie, in the book he did so still in the Shire, and more at Elrond’s Council). Now where did Gandalf get the info? Knowing Bilbo’s story about getting the ring from Gollum in his cave (for more watch The Hobbit movies), Gandalf figured Gollum would finally come out looking for Bilbo. When he did, Gandalf heard rumors of him, and sent Aragorn to hunt for Gollum. Aragorn captured him, and Gandalf interrogated him for his backstory. They turned Gollum over to Legolas’s people for safekeeping, but he escaped. So really, before Frodo ever sees Gollum, Gandalf, Aragorn, and probably Legolas had all spent time with him. Recent news is that Peter Jackson is returning to make a movie about all that - “The Hunt for Gollum”!
Frodo knows about smeagol because gandalf tells him about him while they are sitting in the mine of moria. Gandalf cant remember which direction to go so they are waiting for him to remember. Thats when frodo sees gollem following them and he tells gandalf
Yes, but that conversation is shorter in the theatrical cut, so they missed it.
You may discover this later, but that's not a talking tree. He even said, "I am no tree. I am an ent." They are sentient, plant-like beings that herd and shepherd forests like cattle.
_The Rings of Power_ is Amazon Prime's show that is in the same world (and takes place thousands of years before) as _The Lord of the Rings_ but not nearly as good and completely ignores the source material. While Peter Jackson did change things in his movies, nothing he did is nearly as egregious as the liberties Amazon took.
It’s worse than you imagine - Amazon waited until Christopher Tolkien died early in the production of its DumpsterFire, his "demand" was that Amazon could use the Appendices to make the show, but they couldn't change the lore. As soon as Christopher died, Amazon delayed the show for reshoots, fired Tom Shippey who was the lead Tolkien scholar & friend of Tolkien himself; they wanted Jackson on the team.
PeterJackson asked for the scripts then they ghosted him. Then later when asked about it he basically told them good luck.. You can blame this garbage show on Simon Tolkien, its stink doesn't reach Christopher. Firstly: they merge events (from thousands of years of history & build up towards several events but puts them all into one moment as if it’s happening in the same few years without time jumps or anything.) Guyladriel the murderous one dimensional girlboss heroine version of Galadriel never met Miriel(one of Aragorn’s ancestors) because, as an elf, she would have been sacrificed to Morgoth by the King's Men.
The hobbits and Gandalf never met in the 2nd Age because Gandalf was in Valinor till the 3rd Age.
Miriel wasn’t even born yet. She was born 300 years before or after the rings of power era. Also Elendil would never say “forget the past and toss it aside.” That’s the whole thing about the Faithful Númenoreans!!! Faithfulness to what’s good. To their elf friends. To the Valar, to Eru Îlluvatar. The way Galadriel acts like Fëanor when he isn’t seeing straight such as how she threatened bloodshed in the highest court of Númenor! The way she isn’t tall, the way she fights rookies doesn’t make her look strong. Should have had her spar with Elendil who was greater than Miriel in many ways even as far as lineage goes too! Have her spar with those greater Numenoreans and let the rookies laugh at their masters being vested by an elf woman holding back from actually hurting them! Now that’d be cool.
(Remember. Their whole mantra was to write the book Tolkien never wrote”. Also watch them fake super fans. And then watch their social media that had nothing Tolkien on it ever. Like…. It’s painfully obvious what’s going on here. Same formula towards other titles. They’re just trying to bank on the brand of which that’s the only reason they did this.
Just watch Peter Jackson’s new movie coming out and the War of the Rohirim. You’ll see that Brian Cox is involved In it along with Philipa Boyens as well as Actor for Èowyn named Miranda Otto. Fran Walsh I also believe is Involved as well! Watch George The Giant Slayer’s first video regarding the war of the rohirrim. It was beautiful. And he has a wonderful soul too. When I say first video.
I don’t mean very first uploaded video though lol. )
There was also no Adar. No poppy. No Nori. No fake Gandalf who literally didn’t come the way he was supposed to which introduces Círdan. And since they screwed up the themes and lore so badly they have to dig in their heels. And they are also being sued by multiple people and groups and companies actually. The rings were forged last and not first. They were not in his sights or touch nor did he even know about them. And also guyladriel wasn’t a murderous Fëanorean either. But the note of the elven rings.
They were made last and without the knowledge of Sauron. His touch never got to them. Made in secret so that whole story is thrown out the window as well. And making them first and having the obvious Sauron figure who wasn’t an elf to just be there when they’re making them and have his eye show up in the forge which wasn’t even the worst of it.
The greatest of elven smiths still around which is Celebrimbor doesn’t even know what alloying is. Not to mention all their environmental scandals on top of bad CGI stuff. Full of copy past crowds and plagerisms up the wazoo. It’s also getting sued by several people and groups.
I’ll also remind you that they just ran an old sick horse til it died of cardiac arrest and then only had a ten min coffee break to loosely honour this horse. Not to mention Tolkien loved animals in a deep way. They also have been causing environmental damage one of which being King Charles ancient forest to make a set. It’s scandal after scandal. And the fire in studio that took four hours to put out with firemen for yet another example.
PS they don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion nor anything much of the second age let alone the first. Only the trilogy books and their appendices….
Remember that they also plagiarized tonnes of films in nontasteful instead of true a homage way… “tempest in me” but when threatening Fëanorean level bloodshed in the court of Numenor was from Cate Blanchett’s Elizabeth role which was done with grace and poise of a veteran actress(which doesn’t even sound like anything those of the great chill house of Finarfin would even act like.
Again it’d be best to put Elrond there due to Elros. But ooook let’s make girlboss do everything. Even if it continues to make zero sense. )😍
fact they downplayed Elendil, Gil-Galad and Finrod is beyond infuriating and not explaining Elwing, Elronds mother beyond just showing her as a swan was pure LOLism. Like. What’s worse is Grandpabimbor…. Let’s not forget good ol’ Guyladriel either. The LOTR version of Star Wars’ Rey! Guyladriel the Female Fëanor without any of his charms and subtleties and wit… just the bloody violent rages…
@@Makkaru112 Best review of the Amazon Rings of Power crap I ever read!!!
@@Makkaru112 Trust me. I watched it. Granted it was in a watch party with people who have never read the books. I was kicking and screaming after the first episode, while being told, "You're in it with the rest of us now. We can't stop until we've finished."
Yeah that show is a disgrace
Yes, Rings of Prime is horrific. Best to stick with the books and Jackson movies.
To better understand Arwen & Elrond (& Aragorn by extension) we must look at Elrond’s Twin Brother Elros, their choice is because of their parents; (Eärendil & Elwing), both “half elven” made a great sacrifice and went to Valinor to ask for help against Morgoth(who was making everything worse than a living hellscape for 100s of generations) which lead to the greatest events in the early first and second age.
Instead of being punished, the valar listened to them, that led to a great hosts of Valar and Maiar And Vanyar Elves went to Middle Earth that laid waste to Beleriand.
After the War Of Wrath, the valar rewarded them for their sacrifices. They can choose to be elf or men, including their children. They chose immortally, but never return to Middle Earth because they thought that their twin sons had died.
But they didnt die. Elrond chose to be immortal while his twin brother Elros chose to be mortal. He founded the Kingdom of Numenor. He lived in Numenor Island and blessed with a long life that include his descendants Those men who fought for the war were rewarded a long life but not their families or children.
Only the family of Elrond can choose to be immortal or mortal in which Arwen did. Aragorn is the direct descendant of Elros, thats why he has a long life. The average lifespan of a Numenorean at their height was 500 years maximum! Now remember too that half elves are a common thing and whenever they did come together it was always significant !❤❤❤
Remember this is the SHORT version, there are so many moving parts that will make you want to dive into the books or the audio books or even do reaction videos to the famous lore videos by the biggest lore channels out there!
When you’re done the trilogy try doing reaction videos just like Moviejoob did now with the lore recently as well as OmarioRPG. I recommend videos by GirlNextGondor and The Red Book, and Tolkien Untangled and especially Men Of The West.
Many other cool ones I’ll recommend in the comments section of those reaction videos you do from Tolkiens Legendarium lore videos. They are super engaging. You’ll be in love. Nothing would have existed if Tolkiens works never hit the light of day as they were meant to stay private and sometimes be shared with his children and so on. No Game Of Thrones. No Skyrim. No ElderScrolls, No World Of Warcraft, no Dungeons&Dragons. None of it. Not even Star Wars. Not even Harry Potter!
They took inspiration from his works which were souly to give back a forgotten history of the Anglo Saxons that had their culture & history destroyed as the larger empires were riding around them. His works reflect the Elder Edda(Norse) The Kalevala(Finnish) and the Welsh people from Wales as well as Irelands cultures of the Tuatha De Danaan as well! His languages are fully fleshed out too resembling Finnish & Welsh
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By the way Elrond is around 6870-8000 years old & nearly a full Elf year (as they age very very differently to Men) is close to 144 man years(solar years for them).
but if you want a more true age you must realize that he may be 8000 but in human years after the sun and moon were created from the flower from of the two trees of Valinor as well as one fruit from the other of the two trees; they experience the TIME and the way men experience it but their clock is different! They live as long as the world/Arda/Ëa does.
Essentially. Which is why they are so in synch with the world around them and the nature responds to them !
Think of when Legolas walked ontop of all that snow on the Mountain of Caradhras!! They continue to endure as long ad the world itself does. (Arda) and speaking of age, Legolas is also 3000+years old by the time he becomes a member of The Fellowship Of The Ring! If you look back on the original trilogy movies: The fellowship had a 2500 year old Elven PRINCE in their party. And a clandestine angelic being who was Gandalf originally known Olòrin to those such as Galadriel who knew him when she lived in Valinor, Elrond also knew would be one of the only others who’d know this save Círdan The Shipwright(Oldest Elf in the world but even he was a few generations down from the original elvish peoples to awake to the stars) & kin to Thingol who also is a semi distant cousin to Legolas as Legolas’ grandfather was the close cousin to Thingol(same with Galadriel’s Husband Celeborn through his father, their capital within Lothlòrien was named after his father(Caras Galadhon) Galadhon being the name indicating that which belongs to the father.
And a 87 year old Númenorean man named Aragorn!, a 335 year old Dwarven Prince named Gimli. And as a microcosm they resembled the coalition of all the races of middle earth uniting under one banner which is another reason it sort of metaphysically set into motion the world uniting at the macrocosm !
Galadriel's Phial (gift to Frodo) is something really special. light & dark have a spiritual dimension in Tolkien. way back before the First Age Valinor was lit by two very special Trees that waxed & waned in opposition to each other. a master craftsman Elf named Fëanor fashioned three gems that captured their light, the Silmarils. (And it’s same power and light was drawn into it from the very firmament where it now stands amongst the stars as Eärendil himself (Elrond’s father stands watch over The Doors Of Night where Melkor still is held until fate holds him no longer.)
Everyone who saw them was captivated by them, even the Melkor(Morgoth); the first Dark Lord. Wars were fought over them called the Kinstrife after Morgoth had the Trees destroyed the Silmarils were the only light from them left and he stole them as you may remember, they changed hands a few times & eventually one was left after one fell into the sea & another was lost in a pit of magma. a Half Elf named Eärendil (the first one! Who was Elrond’s father.) came into its possession & sailed it to Valinor as a gift to the Valar to ask for their help in defeating Morgoth, which they did. the Valar turned it into a star & hung it in the sky with Eärendil as its guardian. the fountain of Galadriel's
Mirror is lit by light captured from the star Eärendil & her Phial has water from the fount. I've left out about 90% of the story but it's quite important & central to the story of Middle Earth. for her to give the Phial to Frodo is quite extraordinary. its light does burn & blind Shelob (that's the spider's name) but doesn't kill her outright. oh also, before he was put in the sky to guard the last Silmaril Earendil had two children, Elrond & his brother Elros the first King of Numenor. Tolkien's lore is deep & vast & the Silmarils are at the center of it.
The Star of Eärendil is the light that shines in the horizon both in the morning and the evening. It consists in a boat raised by the Valar and led by Eärendil, who carries a shining Silmaril while watching the Doors of Night. The Door of Night was a portal in the distant Uttermost West that leads to heaven, and/or the Void. Eärendil's ship Vingilot was taken by the Valar from the rim of the world, passed through the Door and was lifted into the "oceans of heaven". PS: Eärendil is ELROND’s half Vanyar Elf half human father, that father was the son of the great Tuor of the great stories of The Children Of Húrin book!❤❤❤❤
Aragorn is a CLOSE descendant of a direct bloodline to Elros(Elrond’s Twin Brother)
The title of half elven (Peredhel) was due to the combined history of Beren&Lúthien, his mother Elwing was the granddaughter of Lùthien! Eärendil was the husband of Elwing. The true half elf; son of the best elvish women ever who rescued hundreds from the highest of elvish kingdoms(Gondolin); her name is Idril & one of the best most powerful men around named Tuor. Who later on when they went to Valinor together through their own way lead to him choosing to be counted as One Of The Eldar for Idril. Eärendil did the same for Elwing. ❤
Gandalf, Saruman, Sauron, Radagast the Brown (you meet him in the Hobbit) are all ethereal beings sent to middle earth to guide the races. They are forbidden from interfering but they can offer council, guidance. Basically, they are angels who inhabit human form. Sauron corrupted early on and that's what brought the 5 wizards to middle earth. The other 2 of the 5 wizards live in the East, are blue and you never hear about them except in the writings outside of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
Gandalf (Olórin) is the same species of being as the Balrogs/Sauron before twisted by Melkor[Morgoth]. They are all Maiar (primordial spirits) created by Eru’s Thought (extensions of Eru Îlluvatar himself whilst they had their own free will & individuality.
He essentially got the chance to experience and study other parts of himself through this.) among the other Ainur before the Years of the Lamps roughly 9,000+ years before arriving in Middle-earth; In Valinor he was known as Olórin.(Remember though he formally existed before the world existed and his form becoming Gandalf hadn’t happened yet. He was sent to Middle-earth in human form around the year 1000 of the Third Age.
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So his many forms had different ages in length of existing. He’s very cool right! Could he get any cooler!? 😎❤️ Another thing is when he arrived in middle earth he was disguised as an elf & lived among them whilst they were unknowing & he became to be known as Mithrandir to the Quendi/Eldar❤️ He could have very well dwelled with the elves far earlier just do to his curiosity & simple desire to explore and be around the firstborn (TheElves)
Gandalf The Grey/White
Estimated at 15,000 years old (following his quote "300 lives of men, I have walked this earth"), It says that Gandalf was the wisest of the Maiar besides Melian herself. There were a lot of Maiar that were considered really great and powerful. 300 lives of men, according to Tolkien, the average life span of a man is 70 years. So, 300 x 70 is 21000 years. (For his full ainur age but before the dawn of Arda Gandalf was ancient and timelessly so. Counting his time in Valinor it’s closer to 70,0000 years old.
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However, there is a much longer answer. Like Sauron(former name is Mairon) & the other Istari (the order sent around the same time & of which he was appointed leader but he being who he is & a student of the Vala by the name Nienna & Lorien(Irmo).
Gandalf was one of the Maiar, an angelic spirit created by Eru at the beginning of time and therefor one of the many Ainur who sang the world into being & Eru just helped their creation take shape and basically stated “behold YOUR creation” & basically what happens in that world goes sort of preordained as by that song eons ago so really only the ages after Dagor Dagorath will truly be an age that isn’t full of strife; sadness; and longing.
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Also. These lamps are what were before even the two trees. These were Giant mountains but also like light houses but housing a great power but it may have also been where two special Maia lived that helped in the creation in the sun and moon after Melkor With eldrich terror Ungoliant killed the trees, so yea “Arien” is the Maia who basically exists with the sun and her brother and or lover of sorts is the one who wanders with and guides the moon. Of which that other Maia was “Tillion”
Galadriel herself not only witnessed this but as a student of Aulë and the other Valar she obviously had involvement in helping create the hallowed objects that housed the final flower of the silver tree Telperion that was the father of the moon and the mother of the sun was Laurëlin the golden tree and prior to the sun and moon they too used to wax and wane!
Fun Fact: After filming Viggo Mortenson (Aragorn) Bought the horse playing Brego and he (Brego) only passed away recently.
A Note about Gondorians: As a people who had settled in Middle Earth after the destruction Numenor, they had the habit of sometimes committing their high-ranking dead to special boats, to drift out to sea and to when they sink to be reunited with the land they had left so long before. That Aragorn did so shows his knowledge of his people AND the high regard he had for Boromir.
“The return of the King”… so much emotion, so many tears…
The Nazgûl’s flying mount is not a dragon, but rather some kind of prehistoric species kept alive past its time by the dark powers. Tolkien refers to it as a “fell beast”, so people have come to call it a fellbeast. To see a Tolkien dragon, you’ll need to watch The Hobbit movies!
I always took the term “fell beast” to be the equivalent for the eagles that orcs became from the elves. They were twisted and perverted by the dark powers to make them what they were in LOTR
@@charlesedwards2856 Maybe so, and Tolkien's not definitive. I looked up the account where they land in the Pelennor Fields: ..."A creature of an older world maybe it was, whose kind, lingering in forgotten mountains cold beneath the moon, outstayed their day..."
In Western folklore, the fell beast would be close to a 'Wyvern' - similar to a dragon but has two fewer legs.
25:45 IIRC, in the extended cut of Fellowship the conversation between Gandalf and Frodo in Moria goes into more detail about Smeagol, including his original name.
OMG! I can't wait for you to watch the last movie!! It is a masterpiece!
Srsly? You don't get how it being "Real Elvish Rope" plays into it coming undone in an unexpected way when they needed it to?
There was no romance between Eowyn and her cousin. She was raised by the king, so her cousin was like a brother to her.
it was gandalf who told frodo about gollum's real name during the first movie. When they were taking a break in the mines.
33:19 Gandalf is much more older than 10 thousand years. He's an Istar ("Wizard"), but Istari were all Maiar (spirits who existed long before the world itself). They took part in the Music where the world was sung and its story built.
That iconic noise is „The Wilhelm Scream“
30:20 One of Tolkien's themes is "pity" (we may say "mercy" these days). You saw it when Gandalf and Frodo speak about Gollum. Sparing Wormtongue's life is an act of mercy. "Do no be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends".
Gandalf casted Sauroman (sorry if spelled wrong) out of King Theoden's (sorry if spelled wrong) body, whom he had possessed. He had turned him into an weak old man before his time in order to try and rule his kingdom.
I always liked when they talked of haven't hope throughout the movie. With Aragone riding with them they have hope. Hope is the meaning of Aragon's Elvish name.(He grew up in Rivendale with the Elves and got his Elfin name there).
A bog like that is a very dangerous place to traverse. There are places the look like solid ground, but really are just plants growing on the surface of the water so you step on them and down you go. Also, the water is deprived of nearly all oxygen, so there are no fish, and dead bodies do not decompose. The one they went through in this movie is where the big battle you see in the prologue took place.
Frodo learned who Smeagol was from Gandalf in an extended edition only scene in the first film. The same scene that Frodo said that Bilbo should've had pity and put Gollum out of his misery years before when he took the ring from him, and Gandalf said that pity stopped Bilbo from killing Gollum, and that he felt Gollum still had a larger role to play in all of this. That exchange, plus Frodo's hope that even Gollum [and by extension, himself] could be redeemed from the effects of the ring, are why he gives Gollum so much leniency when they first meet.
Éowyn’s FULL SONG in Rohirric Eotheod language + English translation below/ at Thèodred’s “funeral”•’Now dear Théodred lies in darkness, most loyal of fighters. The sound of the harp shall not wake the warrior; nor shall the man hold a golden wine-cup, nor good hawk swing through the hall, nor the swift horse stamp in the courtyard. An evil death has set forth the noble warrior
A song shall sing the sorrowing minstrels of Meduseld
That noble cousin, who always held me dear
Now is held in darkness, enclosed.’
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Nú on théostrum licgeth Théodred se léofa
hæ´letha holdost.
ne sceal hearpan sweg wigend weccean;
ne winfæ´t gylden guma sceal healdan,
ne god hafoc geond sæ´l swingan,
ne se swifta mearh burhstede beatan.
Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended
giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende
on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære
his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost.
She sings this part in the movie: Bealocwealm hafað fréone frecan forth onsended
giedd sculon singan gléomenn sorgiende
on Meduselde thæt he ma no wære
his dryhtne dyrest and maga deorost.
Éowyn is only heard singing the last four lines of the song, ending with the word Bealo, which in Old English meant "evil" or "harm". The first of those lines ("Bealocwealm hafað...") originates from the epic poem Beowulf, line 2265.)
Dirge sung by Éowyn of Rohan about her uncles son who passed away. Hargander instruments play whilst her voice remains clear and true and resolute but full of longing and mourning, a flute plays in the mix as well but it’s normally chipper melody turns sorrowful as to show how Théodred was bright when he was alive, but now he passes away into the heavens
Éowyn’s Lament Of Théodred
At 20:29 you say, "Oh, a dragon!" Well, not exactly--the creature the Black Rider is riding on is referred to as a Fell Beast, though that's more a description than a name. Tolkien's description is graphic: "The great shadow descended like a falling cloud. And behold! it was a winged creature: if bird, then greater than all other birds, and neither quill nor feather did it bear, and its vast pinions were as webs of hide between horned fingers, and it stank. A creature of an older world maybe it was...And the Dark Lord took it, and nursed it with fell meats, until it grew beyond the measure of all other things that fly; and he gave it to his servant to be its steed." There aren't any dragons in LOTR, but if you read The Hobbit or watch the Hobbit movies, you'll encounter Smaug, a truly terrifying dragon.
Legolas asking Gimli if he wanted a box to stand on has to be the best exchange in the whole trilogy, slightly behind their competition in the next one of which I will say no more for fear of spoilers. :P
The scene where Gollum is talking to himself going from Smeagel to Gollum got a round of applause in the theater when I saw it first release. A scene where a MoCap character carried a scene by himself had never been seen like that on screen before. Of course the great Andy Serkis fathered in a new wave of respect for the new MoCap technology in film making. I hope one day soon the academy finally gives this dude his flowers while he is still alive.
Serkis should've won an Oscar for that scene.
"He's probably experienced that himself" Yes Elrond is intimately familiar with the lifespan of men measured against that of elves.
Excellent reaction! You two picked up on all the important points and your insights were dead on. It's quite enjoyable to see LOTR newbies get so excited by this amazing tale.
22:25 how long they fought? A total of 10 days, close to 48h fighting on that peak (the Balrog at first tries to flee, with Gandalf running behind him for 8 days lol)
Gandalf was the one who told Frodo about Gollum/Smeagol’s life back when they were in Moria in the first movie. I can’t remember if it was a scene only in the Extended Edition or not, but Gandalf gives Frodo a whole little tale about Sméagol’s past and why Bilbo pitied and spared him.
Guys amazing detail.. Look at 1:00:34.. You didnt show that scene for us but you saw it .. While Haldir is greeting Aragorn, Elvish soldiers didnt respond anything..But..While Legolas and Haldir greet each other, at that exact moment Elvish soldiers return to them and do respectful military standing salute. Because Legolas is the son and heir of King Thranduil. He is the prince of the Elven kingdom of Mirkwood. And the elves have great respect for the dynasty
Extended scenes at risk of being missed from Fellowship: 1• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin!
(An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.)
2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time.
3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer.
4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall.
5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books).
6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel).
That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn!
7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
And Gandalf telling Frodo about Gollum/Smeagpl...
When Gimli says "three days and nights pursuit" he's not lying. In three days he, Legolas & Aragorn ran on foot 45 leagues/217 kilometers/135 miles to keep up with the Uruk-hai. In the book it astonished Éomer so much he looked at Aragorn and said "Strider does not fit, I shall name thee Wingfoot and such a journey must be sung in every hall across the Riddermark"
This movie is SO much better in the extended edition. It's not just the extra scenes, but the re-edited and re-ordered scenes make, especially the Rohan part, so much more comprehensible.
25:55 Back when Bilbo left the Shire, including the Ring, Gandalf knew that the ring felt odd because of its effect on kind Bilbo, but Gandalf didn't know it was THE RING. So Gandalf left for 17 years to track the story of the ring Bilbo had. That means going back to the Misty Mountains and tracking Gollum, its previous owner. Then tracking how Gollum found the ring in the river Anduin. There in Anduin was where Isildur, Aragorn's ancestor, died. Once Gandalf was almost certain that it was THE RING, he went to Gondor to find notes written by Isildur, and discovered how to "test" that it was THE RING: by throwing it into the fire. Gandalf heads back to the Shire to do the test, then retell the Ring's entire story to Frodo, including Gollum's backstory.
Funny you should ask how Frodo knows about Smeagol/Gollum's story, because right now, there are talks of another film trilogy that will be about "The Hunt for Gollum", pertaining to Gandalf, Aragorn, and even Legolas, hunting and tracking Gollum for those 17 years, then finding out more about Gollum's backstory. Peter Jackson (and the other leaders of this trilogy) shall return as the backbone. Andy Serkis himself will both star as Gollum and direct. Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn) and Sir Ian McKellen (Gandalf) both said they'd be willing to come back to Middle Earth, especially since Peter is leading. I do wonder if they'll go full dark and gory with it? Peter Jackson toned down Gollum's past to sell his grey side in this trilogy. But Gollum did a lot of things that would never garner him sympathy.
Also, there's an incoming anime about Rohan! Philippa Boyens, one of the screenwriters/writers in this trilogy, is a producer of the anime. Miranda Otto (Eowyn) reprises her role, probably as narrator. A chance to see other Shield Maidens of Rohan!
Also, prayers for Sir Ian McKellen. He was just hospitalized for an accident in one of his theater performances :(
Two Towers builds off of Fellowship of the Ring. Without Fellowship you don’t know how they get to Two Towers. 🤷🏾
When will people stop saying “Let’s go” ❤😂
The cloaks and leaf pins were gifts from galadrial. The cloaks have power to blend In with the surroundings
Rings of Power is absolutely awful. Not worth it. The Hobbit tho, even though more made for a younger audience, is still such a fun group of movies. Def would recommend the extended versions of those films much like the Lord of the Rings!
Great reaction!
The mire in the books was based on Tolkien's experiences at the Battle of the Somme during World War One. The battle had been fought, and a bloody and gruesome one it had been, and then rains came, downpours, that flooded all the low lying areas of the battlefield and left soldiers of both sides lying under water, some so obviously torn up that there was no doubt that they were dead and others looking almost unwounded, as if they were sleeping silently under the waters that covered their lifeless forms. Absolute nightmare fuel I'm sure, but it certainly fed the images of the silent soldiers (coincidentally from some of the battles depicted at the start of the first movie when Sauron was defeated) lying under the water and waiting for the living to come too close...
As I remember, each of the extended edition DVDs I own came with a 'making of' DVD which was filled with all kinds of incredible information. Like the fact that each of the three runners chasing the Uruk-Hai were dealing with injuries. Viggo the aforementioned broken toe, Orlando had damaged ribs I think, and the short stand-in for Gimli had been injured in his leg I believe. There were quite a few injuries in these movies but, for the most part, the actors just powered through them all like legends.
Hama, the door guard who let Gandalf keep his staff, knew what he was doing, absolutely. His king was unwell, and since nothing else could help him, Hama thought that perhaps the wizard could. And did. If you notice when Gamling goes to draw his sword as Gandalf moves toward Theoden, Hama grabs his hand and keeps him from doing so. Hama was hoping that Gandalf could help the king and was willing to risk the displeasure of Grima Wormtongue to allow him to try. His king was all but lost already. How could the situation get worse?
Bernard Hill, in a cast of amazing actors doing amazing work, has always stood out to me for his work as Theoden, King of Rohan. It was easy to believe that he was Theoden. He played every aspect of the character brilliantly. Whenever I read the books my mental images now are of this excessively awesome cast as the characters they portrayed. To the point that I can't even remember how I used to picture Aragorn, Gandalf, Saruman, and Theoden before.
My late father started reading these books to me and my little sister as a bedtime story nightly over the course of a year or so when I was ten and my sister was six. It has been 46 years since I was ten, and I can still remember lying in bed and picturing everything as he read.
All the stuff that Grima tells Saruman is stuff he already knows, but it just confirms it all. Saruman is older even and was wiser even than Gandalf, which is why he was the leader of the five wizards. Unfortunately once he began relying on the Palantir for information, Sauron was able to corrupt him and twist him toward madness, driving him away from his purpose and making him a willing tool and ally of one who views him in the same way Saruman viewed the wild men who he sent to torch the Westfold. Useful but expendable. But Saruman's purpose is that he is almost as clever as Sauron, and so after corrupting Grima he uses Grima's knowledge to confirm what he believes to be true.
"I can fight!"
"NO! You must do this. For me."
It's not a cage, it is a responsibility. With the king's son's death and Eomer's banishment and uncertain status, Eowyn is effectively the last of the royal family. She HAS to stay with the people just in case Theoden falls in this battle, because her people MUST have one of the royal family with them to follow.
I suppose in some ways it is a cage, but it is one of blood obligation. As the only present heir to the throne, she has to be the one to lead her people to safety.
Yes, the five wizards (of which we only see two, and only one other, Radagast the Brown, is briefly talked about in the books) are, for all intents and purposes, angels. Sent by the greater powers, their purpose was to help the free peoples of Middle Earth to become strong enough to stand against evil on their own. Which is also why they rarely use their powers, otherwise the free peoples will become reliant on the wizards and become even weaker. Wizards are, like the elves, effectively immortal and while they can be killed, as Gandalf was in the battle against the Balrog, they are usually wise enough to not put themselves into a position where that is likely to happen. Gandalf had little choice as the Ringbearer chose Moria and Gandalf fought an agent of evil as powerful as Gandalf to both their deaths.
It sucks, but it had to be done so the movie wouldn't be even longer. Denethor, father of Boromir and Faramir, has more issues than just being a dick. He was less disposed towards Faramir in the books because his beloved wife died in childbirth with Faramir, and Faramir was more interested in the things that the old wizard who occasionally came to Gondor (Gandalf) would teach him than he was in the warfare and such that his father stressed. But the biggest problem Denethor had was that he had a Palantir that he tried to use to spy on Sauron, to know what Sauron was planning and doing so he could fight him more effectively. Unfortunately, as Sauron had corrupted the Palantiri, all Denethor saw was what Sauron wished him to see, and Sauron gradually corrupted his mind and drove him mad. And that is why he was such a hateful dick, because he was insane, though he could still (barely) do the job he was expected to do. And because of this Boromir was pressured so much that he was easily tempted by the ring, and Faramir was relegated to useless duties by his hateful father. But to put all this backstory into the movie would have added an hour or so to an already long movie, so no go.
I've heard multiple people say that everyone needs a Sam in their life, but it is also true, as one reviewer said, that everyone should also try to be a Sam in someone else's life. God bless all the Sams in the world. 🙂
Respectfully, I think you’ve forgotten how great the first film is. That whole Moria sequence, Gandalfs Fall, and Boromir’s redemption. Of all the films, it feels the most like an adventure.
I think you should rewatch it with the extended edition.
The first film is my favourite too, for more or less the same reason, the sense of wonder and honest adventure was more palpable but I know many people who like the subsequent releases more because of the higher-octane action. Just people being people.
I had said this once before and I'll say it again here, we all can use a great friend like Sam. No matter what he always has frodo's back.
There is no way that this video will NOT get 1,500k likes so I hope you just watch the next movie soon so we can get it sooner too. I'm so excited. Love the reaction, especially Cara's so much.
Frodo knew about Smeagol because in the first one while in Moria, Gandalf realized that Gollum was following them and told Frodo about him and how Bilbo spared his life. Also, I don't know if you noticed - during the scene with Smeagol/Gollum arguing with each other...his pupils change depending on who is speaking at the time. Large pupils are Smeagol, small pupils are Gollum, and it continues throughout the movie as well. I really hope you guys read the books as well at some point. The part with Gimli and Legolas keeping score is also in the book and it is so hilarious because it'll just pop up every so often, one of them will call out a number, then it'll go into another thread of the story and come back a few chapters later and they're still keeping track lol!
Saw this in the cinema at release. Was without a doubt the greatest cinematic experience in my life. Nothing comes even close
In the 1970s cartoon adaptation of Lord of the Rings they thought people would get confused by Sauron/Saruman, so they changed his name to ''Aruman''. xD
At 1:00:00 Gimli's ill-fitting chain mail is a little throwaway gag, not repeated. In the book, Gimli already wore chain mail of Dwarf make, better than anything Rohan could offer. He did accept a helm, though, and a shield. Note that Weta Workshop had two guys working full time cranking out real chain mail made of plastic rings, each ring fitting into four others. In the process they wore off their fingerprints!
Eomer is theoden's nephew Eowyn's his niece and Eomer's sister. Theodred was theoden's only son he is the one who died
The book was intended to be a single book divided into six sections/acts. The publisher convinced Tolkien to just divide it into 3 books as it was quite long. They later ended up publishing an edition as a single book divided into 3 sections. It's worth noting that many fantasy series today are longer per book with way more books in the series, and some individual books are nearly the length of the entire LotR trilogy.
Gondor didn't have any troops to spare either, they were preoccupied with defending their boarders from Mordor, including Osgiliath and Cair Andross at the north-western boarder to Rohan.
“I want to visit a place like this”. You can literally take a tour in New Zealand of a lot of the movie locations.
At 25:52 you ask, "Can you guys explain why or how Frodo knew who Smeagol was?" In FOTR, Gandalf explains Smeagol's story to Frodo in the Mines of Moria. In the book, the explanation occurs very early in the story, when Frodo and Gandalf are still at Bag End.
The explanation occurs earlier in the movie too. It opens with Bilbo finding the ring and then Gandalf explains the reason they have to leave The Shire is because Gollum told Sauron about Baggins having it
Gandalf 'magic' you'll notice is limited mostly to fire, like heating up Aragorns sword, lighting up Moria, and fireworks. His mission is to "light a fire in the hearts men." His main power is in his counsel. He doesn't force people to do things but advises them.
The part about the dead marshes includes Legolas’s Father; Thranduil, & Thranduil’s father Oropher, were to join the Last Alliance in from a different angle to achieve a certain war tactic but Oropher and others got waylayed by orcs & many corrupted men which lead to eventually Oropher dying there, this loss effected Legolas’s father so very deeply forevermore.
The bond between he and his son is the same bond Thranduil has with Legolas. And the braid he wears is to honour his grandfather. I believe after his death braids became less common. A sort of respect thing I believe. Both his father and Grandfather lived in Doriath(Elu Thingol’s domain[Elwë], which was heartbea of middle earth; Aside from Gondolin which held this mantle until it’s secret location was given up by a tortured elf who was the son of a very important mother who was the sister of the high king Turgon).
All on a landmass called Beleriand that sunk under the sea after a set of disastrous events that lead to many greater outcomes much later on in the legendarium. This here is a whole set of stories of which also includes a quite a bit of Galadriel too but moreso other characters during this era. Of Beren And Lùthien comes to mind and Children Of Hurin!! You’ll fall in love even more after the third movie. Then you can enter into the lore videos like Moviejoob and OmarioRPG have done reaction videos too. Amazing stuff.
One thing to add though is this scene resembles a lot from the other battle Tolkien was involved in called The Battle Of Somme. Look into it and tell me your thoughts.
I’ll add something here though: that clan of elves really didn’t like being under the command of anyone else so they went ahead without the order and let’s just say it didn’t end well. That and they weren’t fond of the Ñoldor… huge history there as to why that is. That and the Sindar subgroup of these clans were a tiny bit more isolationist.
But there are many amazing Sindar in the legendarium too Elrond and his two sons and daughter are connected to all of the main clans of men and elves through the union of his half elf father and full elf(quarter goddess) mother. Who essentially played a huge role in saving the world from the original dark lord Morgoth. Gained the Favour Of Valinor.
Which subsequently lead to Numenor being a gift from the sea to the men who helped. Becoming blessed. Their land existing within the light of Valinor as it was situated closely to The Undying Lands. (The same ancestry Aragorn has that Èowyn spoke of while they were travelling to Helm’s Deep! (Elrond’s Twin Brother became the first king of Númenor.
His name becoming Tar-Minyatur, and those faithful to Eru, the elves and the natural world all of this line carried Tar before their name! Ar for Aragorn is the word meaning Noble in his tongue called Adúnaic. That too is a fleshed out language Tolkien created too. Elvish languages also were placed into the official list of world languages too!
10:04 "Saruman is like: these guys are idiots; I'll just use them to do my dirty work" Gee, reminds me of a politician in America
I know I say this every time I watch LOTR reactions but here goes: the creatures ridden by the Nazgul are not Dragons. Though not formally named in the books, they are referred to as "Fell Beasts," a generic term used by Tolkien which includes any dark, monstrous creature.
Furthermore, the Wizards are not human, they are eternal immortal beings called Maiar, the equivalent of Angels, who serve The Valar, or Gods (The Valar in turn serve Eru, The One, whom the Elves call Illuvitar). Some of these Maiar were sent to Middle Earth in the guise of wise old men to aid the peoples of Middle Earth, & advise them in their struggles against Sauron. Sauron & the Balrog Gandalf fought in Moria are also Maiar, albeit it fallen Angels.
Loving your reactions guys! 😄
Of all the characters, of all the actors in this movie... I like Grima Wormtongue the most. His enunciation, timbre and position of power is downright amazing. I'd pay so much money to hear Brad Dourif voice over an audiobook.
Gríma actually played a major role in the story of The Lord of the Rings prior to his first appearance in The Two Towers. In Unfinished Tales, Tolkien writes that on September 20 in 3018 Gríma was captured by the Nazgûl in the fields of Rohan, while on his way to Isengard to tell Saruman of Gandalf's arrival at Edoras. He was interrogated and divulged what he knew of Saruman's plans to the Nazgûl, specifically his interest in the Shire and its location, revealing the wizard's two-facedness towards the Dark Lord Sauron. Previously, the location of the Shire had been unknown to the Nazgûl, but they knew it to be the home of "Baggins," whom they thought still had the Ring.
Wormtongue was set free, for the Lord of the Nazgûl saw that he would not dare tell anyone of their meeting and he guessed that he would be of much use to the Dark Lord (being a capable opportunist), while doing harm to the turncoat White Wizard in the future. The Nazgûl set out immediately for the Shire. Had the Ringwraiths not captured Gríma, they would instead have pursued Gandalf into Rohan, and possibly not have found the Shire until much later, giving the Hobbits and then the Fellowship of the Ring a considerable head start.
Gandalf it´s one of the five Istari... sent to the middle earth by the Valar. With Saruman, it´s also Gandalf, Radagast and the two blue wizards. Saruman was the white because he was chosen as the leader of all them. When he turned to evil... the God Ilúvatar chose a new leader.... returning Gandalf as Gandalf the white.
I think it's really understated just how important the short scene of the mother reuniting with her children at helms deep is. If it weren't for that glimmer of hope the battle for helms deep would be so much more of an emotional slog
John Rhys Davies, the actor who plays Gimli, is 6'1" and he plays a dwarf, hilarious! The orc killing contest between Gimli and Legolas are in the books!
It’s only covered in the books and not the movies, but the reason why Frodo knew about Sméagol’s name is because after being captured by Mordor, Gollum was captured and interrogated a second time by Aragorn and Gandalf, and kept in the custody of Legolas’s people. Gandalf had managed to uncover his backstory, which he then filled Frodo in on. That’s actually why Legolas was in Rivendell, to report to Gandalf that Gollum had escaped captivity.
I'm going to make a running list of commentary. Full disclosure, I've not read the books I've just listened to a lot of people who have
1) Grima was released to see where his loyalty was. He was told to choose, ride to war with your people or go to your boss
2) Frodo feels sorry for Gollum because he was a ring bearer like him. He understands why Gollum is what he is and he fears it. Frodo has hope that Gollum will be ok because he wants to believe he will be ok
3) you are correct. The wizards are not human. They are closer to a demigod and we're put there to do a job. Because Saruman isn't doing his, Gandalf has been sent back to do it instead
4) Elrond certainly has been through spending eternity without his love. His wife was captured by orcs and tortured to the point she never recovered. She went to the undying lands a long time ago (side note. The undying lands are what the elves get instead of an afterlife. Mortals die and go back to the Middle Earth version of god. Elves live forever and go to the undying lands when they are done with Middle Earth)
5) a massive theme through these films is answering the call to change. Not for the sake of blood or honour, but because you have to. Especially the Hobbits. Frodo only wanted to go home after taking the ring to Rivendell. But he saw that the only way was for him to do it. Makes a lot of sense given when these books were written
The beings that Gandalf, Saruman, and yes even Sauron, are called Maiar. They were essentially angel-like beings hence why they’re so powerful and able to live for so long.
When Gandalf and Saruman were sent to Middle Earth by the Valar (essentially much higher angel-like beings; basically like Arch Angels) they took on the forms of old men and had their powers and memories reduced greatly. There were 3 others sent along with them, Radagast the Brown, and 2 unnamed Blue Wizards. Their mission was to support, guide, and advise the races of Middle Earth in fighting against Sauron. (Sauron has been on Middle Earth for a far longer time than any of the wizards and has done a lot more crazy shit long before he made the One Ring.)
Like I said, Sauron used to be a Maiar like the wizards, but an evil Valar named Melkor/Morgoth corrupted Sauron and many other Maiar (which he actually turned into Balrogs; that demon thing Gandalf fought in Moria). After Morgoth was long defeated Sauron took up the mantle as his successor.
The thing about these beings is that even if their physical bodies are damaged/destroyed their spirits can still live on and wander the world for many many years until they’re able to regain another physical body, which is what happened to Sauron after he lost the One Ring.
Bilbo met Gollum in his adventures in "The Hobbit." (I don't recommend the movies). This is briefly touched on in the prologue of the Fellowship. Biblo wrote about his adventures and told Frodo. That's why in the first movie, Frodo says "It's a pity Bilbo didn't kill him when he had the chance." And then in this movie, Frodo reminds Gollum that he had seen Sting (the sword) before, because that was Bilbo's sword.
Every reactor that watches the scene with Aragorn entrance into helms deep love it lol. He looks bad ass in that entrance 🔥💪🏾
Some major changes from the book that I don't agree with:
* Gimli as comic relief. In the book he is just as serious, heroic and capable as everyone else
* Faramir as a carbon copy of Boromir. In the book the whole point is that Faramir is a better man than his brother. He recognises and rejects the Ring's temptation right away
What a fun reaction! I love the investment and enthusiasm 😃
It's certainly possible Gríma poisoned Théodred (the king's son) in the movies, but Théodred didn't even make it back to Edoras in the books; he died on the battlefield where Éomer found him.
Also, Éomer and Éowyn are the children of Théoden's sister, Théodwyn - he didn't have a brother 🙂
SOOOOO worth the wait! Your reactions, especially Caras (the girl lol), you guys are SUPERIOR. I wish you had more content that was to my tastes!!!
By the way.. The voice of Treebeard are John-Rhys Davis voice. And he is the actor who played Gimli. His voice was so deep and on point that they didn't need to change it by the computer
Frodo knows about Gollum because Bilbo had his interactions with him in the past. The first movie partly opened with Bilbo finding the ring in Gollums cave. And later on in the first movie Gandalf explains to Frodo that the reason they have to escape the Shire is that Gollum kinda snitched on where the ring was, because he knew a Baggins had it. And when they where in Moria they saw Gollum following them, Gandalf also told Frodo about that then