Im from the UK and my friends who do this ended up spending most of their time in Hong Kong, as they was pretty much banned from every bookmaker everywhere else!
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If all your stakes are to the nearest cent, for e.g. $25.46 then this tells the bookmakers you are using an arbitrage system. Usual punters' bets are more rounded off, e.g. $25 or $25.50
Bookmakers also know which games are being targeted by arbitrage betting and it is easy to see one playing a majority of those games. The bet number doesn't matter nearly as much as the games you are playing.
Ahhh. This explains it. The way he said it, it seemed like Ladbrokes banned him simply for winning too often and not because they found out about him doing arbitrage betting.
i remember i had this idea when i was a kid, wasn't able to figure it out until i was in highschool and when i tried to do it looking at only one bookmakers odds i was super disappointed. This has seriously opened back up my curiosity into this subject
Man, I went years trying to figure out how to TRADE in opposite directions to have a "can't lose" situation. I've tried mixing Nadex binaries with spreads, Mixing things from different platforms, I've tried very complex setups that always have an exposed area.... It was so frustrating! The only way I've come up with as far as "can't lose" is if you trade in one direction & it goes a bit in your favor. Then you Do the opposite on a different strike. You can have a situation where you win one & lose the other, and still come out on top... or win BOTH & make a nice amount. I'm still searching for that golden strategy. That's why I love this video. It's great to hear someone beat the system, even if it did get them banned. 😁
The rules are mostly the same around the world If you are losing and losing regularly - The bookmakers or Casinos love you, if you are winning and placing certain types of bets on certain handpicked events after a while your data footprint will give you away and they will either ban you or massively restrict your stake that isn't worth while staying with them. The end, Now place your bets, No more bets please.
Once they notice someone making a hell of a lot more than they’re putting in. First your account will be restricted to low max bets then you will be banned shortly after. Win fast
Generally, no. You as the player (or arber in this case) might win more than you're putting in but you're doing it at different bookmakers and it is sufficiently expected that not every arbitrage will collect the winning bet from the same bookmaker. Unless the bookmakers share their data on you the player and your bets, they will generally not have a reason to suspect you of doing arbitrage betting and even then, not all bookmakers care.
@@ejreob “not all bookmakers care”, is that so? They are all for-profit companies, they all care. Only difference is their tolerance threshold for a winning player. But none, 0 of them, will stand to lose money for too long.
I was doing this back in 2002 from the US where its hard to participate in online gambling, even more-so now. One of the problems I had was getting my money in and out of the betting sites and back into the US. If I lived in a country that was more favorable toward online sport book then I'd still be doing this, it was fun.
@@aadisaha9762 lol already accepted mentally I lost a week ago But been regaining confidence since michigan supreme court just today admitted there was significant fraud and found constitutional issues. Which means this along with ga and pa go to scotus as well. There goes biden's lead I'm kinda hyped now.
great story. a slow way to make money considering the maximum bet for these events. and as you allude, you don't want to do this unless odds are fixed at time of bet placement. The other insight is to apply this technique via a syndicate with one partner better, and place bets in a manner that makes it more difficult for the bank to identify an individual customer's profit. i.e. one individual will take the favorite bet randomly, and randomly change the betting agent it is placed with. the other individual will take the opposing bet with the alternative betting agent.
@@NewMoneyUA-cam Bookmakers now operate like high frequency trading platforms, as soon as one shortens the odds, all the rest do so as well, instantly, it's impossible to get mathematical advantage now except for their low bet special offers.
The hometown from where a quote tennis player, boxer, racehorse or whatever is always going to have the shortest odds to win so you don't have to look everywhere for the shortest odds only the hometown. This is known as hometown bias something the maker of this video doesn't even realize.
I used to work in pubs, and late on a weeknight there was often no people in the bar so I used to watch the TAB. There were ALOT of times in a greyhound race where the favourite was priced so short that every other dog was paying more than $3.50 to place. If there was 8 dogs in the race, that means there’s a 2nd and 3rd dividend, so for a $7 investment, the least you would make back was $7 if you just backed every roughy for a place. If the favourite got checked and all three that placed were roughies, you’d get back even more. Sometimes the odds might come a bit shorter after you place your bet, but very rarely would it come shorter than the $3.50 each
odds and payouts change wildly as betting goes along leading up to an event. you could do way better by placing bets early on huge favorites, as the odds spread out and they get wider to compensate then you can place on the underdog for a wider spread.
Exactly. Only way to remain profitable is to pay others to use their accounts (which is completely legal done in the right way), but still makes this difficult. Punters should be given a fair go.
as the house lost its money already before banning you, they lose. against smart people. in general they win, but not because of a 100% concept, but as of people who buy crappy odds.
Funny you bring this up, I once thought I was the smartest sports better with same idea.😂 I never attempted it because I thought there had to be a catch I was missing. Thx for video!
I was sportsbetting fulltime a few years ago, for years and years there's been bots doing this ahead of players. Unless you have accounts on the large chinese and us bookies (or at least it was like that in my time), the potentials for arbitrage is for very small amounts, and even when you're on the bigger sites, the pending-procedures of the bets make it close to impossible. Calculating the rake the house takes is an advantage, but i would not advocate that anyone try to do this, as even the pros find it extremely difficult (if not impossible, in the long run)
What happened to me at least was they waited for my last bet to go through (lost) then sent me an email saying I was banned from all promos. I was able to withdraw money by making a call to customer support but couldn't withdraw via browser/app.
I was doing this back in the very early 2000's and the biggest problem you run into is that sites limit the amount you can bet. Also to get the right match up you have to sign up to some lesser known betting sites and some of those suddenly stop answering when you go to get a pay out.
Damn, congrats! I saw this in my financial management course. You basically discovered a method that is used frequently by financial managers to hedge their funds all by yourself!
Its not possible anymore (Maybe some not developed country or so) but we did it in good old days on the university, after a month they stop to pay us profits and cancel some bets. They now use same software , so no more arbitrage:-)
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There is something that I don't understand: You always win when you combine different bookies - as explained; but it does not mean that you always win in the same bookie. So, why would a certain bookie ban you?
It’s because he used the same bookie with the $2 round up odds for favourite - given favourite would win most times (and unluckily in his case all the time) he probably had a 100% win streak on his account which looked “odd” to them
He was banned because of the amount he won on one specific promotional event. Ladbrokes was rounding up odds to $2 which let him earn a lot since he was betting on favourites who usually won. He only got banned from Ladbrokes too, botany other platform.
I once bet both sides during the same NFL game on the same sportsbook and was not flagged. Team A was down by 6 points with 2-3 mins left in the game but had a good QB and offense and I had a feeling they would drive down the field and score a TD, which they did. So at the start of the drive, the odds were like +200 for them to win and I placed my bet at this time. Then after they took the lead, there was still like :50 left in the game and the odds shifted to like +350 for Team B to win, so I bet on Team B to win with these odds at a lower money wager (they only needed a FG to win), which worked out to where I couldn't lose money no matter who won the game. Team A ended up hanging on to win, but my bet on Team B covered me in case my original bet on Team A lost.
The first time I'd encountered this was in one of the Myth Adventure books where the characters bet in ONE town for the favourites to LOSE and in the other town for their favourites to lose.
If you want a profitable bet but also the risk/variance, then take an arbitrage bet, and flip a coin and bet on team A if lands on Heads, and bet B if lands on tails. The equity is the same as betting on both, but the variance is higher.
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Hi Robert. I can tell you that arbitrage betting does work. I won nearly $30000 in just over two years. However, what the gentleman above may not realise is that the way to win really big money is betting on Overs and Unders in basketball, because with a situation like Under 161.5 with one bookmaker, and Over 160.5 with another, you can win on both sides if the total happens to be EXACTLY 161. Or if you have Under 161.5 with one and Over 161 with another, if the score happens to be 161, you win with the first bookmaker and get your money back with the second. That's how I won most of my money. Unfortunately, thanks to the Aussie government putting pressure on overseas bookmakers, arbitrage betting has become overwhelmingly more difficult. And yes, I've been banned and restricted by many bookmakers. It does work....but it does have a Use By date.
That does not work when the bets are -110 on both sides. Yea you can get super lucky to hit a perfect number to win both ways but it will never cover the 10% juice on both sides.
@Saz Stellar Why are you so salty? It's an actual betting strategy called middle betting. Look into it. Bookmakers design their over and unders betting to be a 50/50 chance. They fall between those under and over middles more often than you think
Not a smart strategy given you intention to win both sides means you need to land on exactly 161 total, always risk small for big gains, if you betting on under/overs priced $1.90 you will not see growth in your account.
There are different ways to look at this, arbing can be seen as betting across just 2 outcomes. Dutching can be multiple bets. Arbitrage as per your definition is bookmakers v exchange and Dutching across bookmakers only. Dutching happened before exchanges existed, so there is probably some historical context between the various different definitions.
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I do this w LIVE betting.. when one team is ahead and it's over +200 I bet it.. then the other team +200 I bet.. it happens more often that you think. Especially baseball.. and basketball "game of runs"
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Very well explained. Argitrage is hard work. Betting odd amounts will alert bookies (ie betting $24.71 as opposed to $25 or $30). However, these rounded up figures will cost you your advantage. Read fine print for each bookie, because they all differ, particularly in tennis matches if a competitor retires for whateve reason. You will need to set up numerous bookie accounts with at least a few hundred dollars in each account. You will need at at least $20,000 to seriously begin. The most critical, which is not mentioned, how do you compare multiple bookies odds at the same time????? Opportunity is there, but how do you identify it?
I just made a video on this 😂. I know how to not get banned man. You need to do certain things like bet real close to the game rather than days before.
also if you're going to arb live bet especially NBA it is good to have 2 accounts to do it on and bet 1 ML on 1 acc and the other on the other acc and keep switching weekly for taking the stronger ML lean on 1 acc..... example 1 ml on 365 and other on bookmaker take your stronger lean on 365 for a week and weaker on bookmaker then next week take stronger lean on bookmaker and weaker on 365 that way you can keep rotating which accounts you are winning and losing on and books won't know that you're smoking them in arbs
Arbitrage betting sounds great, the only problem is, I feel there are very few reliable bookies, I’m not sure which ones I can trust. Where did you place most of your bets?
Everybody has a system, some work but most fail. Hope problem gamblers don't get a dopamine spike listening to this...Good on you though for taking some money back out of the system
As a general rule of thumb, if it is too easy it will have already been exploited and deemed useless. If you are into sports betting you will have to invest time to study the fundamentals.
This has sadly been made impossible in my country through taxation. On sports betting, we lose quite a lot through taxes, there's one that's 5% on all the money that we bet (e.g. if you put 100 dollars on a ticket, you're actually putting 95 since 5% got cut through that tax) and then, there's 10% tax on total returns. Making arbitrage betting almost impossible, or at least I have not found a way around it. If anyone manages to find a solution, please let me know, but I'm not optimistic. I knew I already was living in a ridiciolous country, but didn't even know this until recently.
I have checked the bookers in Kenya to look for opportunities like this and they are very difficult if not impossible to find, I got excited watching the video but that has changed very quickly
@@harrisonkiprotich2859 Do you have a different view? which booker's do you use to implement this idea, I have checked sportybet,betika,1xbet, odibet and their odds do not offer me the arbitrage
@@harrisonkiprotich2859 Even before the taxes, the odds for one game should differ between the bookers to create the arbitrage, for the ones I mentioned, it's like the odds are being set in one office, so applying the trick presented in this video will not work.
@@bethwelodero1096 maybe do some more research and than be patient. If the example with the tennis match works, you only need a few of this differences to make at least some money in a few months.
This is pretty interesting actually. A lot of people have done this before but you get banned quite quickly. Especially when the bookies talk to each other and find out what you are doing. I've been banned before but not too fussed.
I am not understanding the banning. You say they kicked you because the house didn't win. That can't possibly be true. The same betting site isn't always the one paying you. Sometimes the long shot wins. But even if it didn't, why would they suspect if you always bet on the sure bet? The only way they could catch you if the same company owns both sites and sees you betting in both sites. I imagine the $73.46 raises alarm flags too, but just winning shouldn't even be noticeable.
Its not about being suspect, Its not illegal to do the arbitrage betting method, and ladbrokes likely didnt know he was doing that, but what did happen is that he per chance, won alot on there, and as its a private company they have the right to refuse service, they dont want you to make money, they want all of yours, If you win a lot of money consistently dont be surprised if you get banned
@@clemfandango274 but he'd have to be betting 1000s of dollars to make any real money. For $100 he made 4. He would have to be betting 10000 or more before he starts 'winning big'. They won't even notice if he won 40 bucks ($1000 bet, and remember it is also split). I still have no idea what he did that even caught their attention.
No, with the promotional offers he get's really good arbitrage profit margins. The problem is, the bookies have software that analyzes how you play, they're quite efficient at finding out if people are arbitrage betting (usually people will bet higher than usual or bet their full cash roll). He could've won like a couple grand over some time, without losing any. This is certainly enough for them to kick him out. This is why many arbitragers purposely lose money and try to also make stupid bets or the like, to confuse the system.
@@2Athenewins You are saying 'without losing', but he is losing.. on every event, and that loss won't be with the same betting site every time. It depends on who is giving the best odds on each player. And, if one site is always the one losing, then they suck at setting the odds and will be losing to everyone every time. Like I said, unless one site is aware of what anyone is betting on OTHER sites, then they have nothing to determine whether someone is arbitrage betting or not other than the amount that they bet. And again, if on a good margin he can make 4%, he would have to be betting 1000s of dollars regularly in order to ultimately profit a couple thousand dollars, and this dude is working at a gym while going to school... he ain't gonna have 1000s of dollars to continuously bet with. In order to profit $2000 from this, assuming he makes 5% each time, which I would assume would be the upper end of profit, he would have to bet $1000 40 times. And, who you get profit from would be spread across multiple sites. If he evaluated 4 sites, then the average amount he would pull from any site would only be $500 over 10 bets, and some of those he would have lost. The technique is absolutely real, and you can win money. But I just don't see how he could possibly get to an amount reasonably that would catch their attention and ban him.
Doug Sholly if you heard him state, ladbrokes ran a friday promotion, hence he won considerable amounts off the $2 promo, resulting in the ban. Yes, not the same platform will always pay, hence harder to detect, however obviously with this specific promo he capitalised and was identified quickly.
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I have 8 accounts on different betting sites across Europe, and I never ever saw the necessary conditions for this to happen. It's a good strategy, but since odds move accordingly with the market and the flow of betting, this would only be possible in the first 5 min of the event being open for bets... Don't do this, you'll lose money. Just bet a fixed stake a try to win the weekly bonus, your accounts will grow over time. If you don't know where to bet, find tipsters online and stick with just one! JUST THE ONE!
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This doesn't almost ever work since the spread between two book's odds will seldom be large enough to arbitrage profit. This is particularly hard with sports betting since bookies typically are making 3%+ margins, allowing virtually no room to arbitrage.
Not true. I coded a program on Python that checks for arbitrage opportunities and there are actually tons. Of course the percentage is usually small, but you get surprises if you navigate many betting sites and consider different types of events.
Literally thought the same thing 🤣. My issue was trying to figure it out on the same book, not using the strategy with different books. Glad I stumbled on this 💪🏼
I know this video is 1yo but how did the first site know you were doing arbitrage? From their side of things, they only saw multiple bets on the promotion, something to be expected. How did they prove you were betting opposite on other sites?
since people looks so impressed with that basic video, for you all here is another simple trick: imagine a soccer match, or any 3 possible outcome bet (team A wins or team B wins or a draw) imagine the odds are: A wins /Draw/B wins= 2/3/2.5 if you want to bet a double chance event, for instance A wins or draw. The fair odds for this event is 1.2 because if I spread my bet, lets say 10$, in two bets giving the same winning, I will put 6$ on first odd 2 to win 12 if A wins, and put 4$ on second odd 3 to win 12 if draw. so the fair double chance odd is 1.2. HOWEVER, in the european bookmakers I use, they will most often offer odds below that number, like 1.15 .... so spread your bet in two bets when you double chance rather going for the one double chance bet offered by the house to have a better odd.
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Another risk is if a head to head (2 way) market becomes a draw (or not include extra time in the match like golden point in certain sports), one bookmaker might just refund your money, but the other might treat it as a loss, you have to look at terms and conditions to be sure. I created a 3 way (win-draw-win) market arbitrage calculator in excel so I could arbitrage bet on soccer/football and test cricket, just to eliminate that risk. I think it's harder for them to ban you for arbitrage betting when you aren't betting on simple head to head (2 way) markets.
Meaning if you placed the bet with the same place there is no chance of you winning. "The house" aka that company, always wins. Like the 2.7% and 4.9% shown.
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Im from the UK and my friends who do this ended up spending most of their time in Hong Kong, as they was pretty much banned from every bookmaker everywhere else!
Not the kind of video i want to go viral
whys that?
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@@MiamiConfusion seems fair enough
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This video should be called : Bookmakers hates him, learn how to win free money with one simple trick
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Thanks. Many asian women on seem to promote this MGB bet site as some investment and specifically "the lottery" part of it. What is going on here? Smells like a scam from USA. Can you give some info about it. Thanks
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@@XtraaMints haha you muppet, i'm not even old. You're just one of the dumbasses who wasn't intelligent enough to figure this out for yourself.
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If all your stakes are to the nearest cent, for e.g. $25.46 then this tells the bookmakers you are using an arbitrage system. Usual punters' bets are more rounded off, e.g. $25 or $25.50
Bookmakers also know which games are being targeted by arbitrage betting and it is easy to see one playing a majority of those games. The bet number doesn't matter nearly as much as the games you are playing.
Ahhh. This explains it. The way he said it, it seemed like Ladbrokes banned him simply for winning too often and not because they found out about him doing arbitrage betting.
mmmh yes but it'll needs a program to do this i think..
Very good point.
Books been shutting down arbers for years. Can still get away with it in some places.
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Congratulations, it's great to see people who can pass the system
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Lol
like arbitrage betting is some sort of well kept secret lol.
...makes risk-free money doing so.
I like the idea
i remember i had this idea when i was a kid, wasn't able to figure it out until i was in highschool and when i tried to do it looking at only one bookmakers odds i was super disappointed. This has seriously opened back up my curiosity into this subject
Man, I went years trying to figure out how to TRADE in opposite directions to have a "can't lose" situation. I've tried mixing Nadex binaries with spreads, Mixing things from different platforms, I've tried very complex setups that always have an exposed area.... It was so frustrating! The only way I've come up with as far as "can't lose" is if you trade in one direction & it goes a bit in your favor. Then you Do the opposite on a different strike. You can have a situation where you win one & lose the other, and still come out on top... or win BOTH & make a nice amount. I'm still searching for that golden strategy. That's why I love this video. It's great to hear someone beat the system, even if it did get them banned. 😁
The rules are mostly the same around the world
If you are losing and losing regularly - The bookmakers or Casinos love you, if you are winning and placing certain types of bets on certain handpicked events after a while your data footprint will give you away and they will either ban you or massively restrict your stake that isn't worth while staying with them.
The end,
Now place your bets, No more bets please.
Once they notice someone making a hell of a lot more than they’re putting in. First your account will be restricted to low max bets then you will be banned shortly after. Win fast
Generally, no. You as the player (or arber in this case) might win more than you're putting in but you're doing it at different bookmakers and it is sufficiently expected that not every arbitrage will collect the winning bet from the same bookmaker. Unless the bookmakers share their data on you the player and your bets, they will generally not have a reason to suspect you of doing arbitrage betting and even then, not all bookmakers care.
I totally agree bovada did me that way...max bet went from 2500 to 375.00 in 6 months..and they will flat bet u
@@ejreob “not all bookmakers care”, is that so? They are all for-profit companies, they all care. Only difference is their tolerance threshold for a winning player. But none, 0 of them, will stand to lose money for too long.
I was doing this back in 2002 from the US where its hard to participate in online gambling, even more-so now. One of the problems I had was getting my money in and out of the betting sites and back into the US. If I lived in a country that was more favorable toward online sport book then I'd still be doing this, it was fun.
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Yeah also placing a bet of $73.46 isn't suspicious at all..
That's why you're meant to round your numbers!!
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depends on the bet. 73.46 is quite a normal amount for a bet that returns a percentage with multiple selections.
This would’ve been great when the election odds were out. Both trump and Biden reached 6.5 within 5 hours
Bettings markets move super quick though, and they have their own software to ensure that they’re not too exposed to these arb situations
I had a field day arbing which party won the different states, still waiting for the Georgia pay out though...
Put my savings on trump
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@@aadisaha9762 lol already accepted mentally I lost a week ago
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a slow way to make money considering the maximum bet for these events.
and as you allude, you don't want to do this unless odds are fixed at time of bet placement.
The other insight is to apply this technique via a syndicate with one partner better, and place bets in a manner that makes it more difficult for the bank to identify an individual customer's profit.
i.e.
one individual will take the favorite bet randomly, and randomly change the betting agent it is placed with.
the other individual will take the opposing bet with the alternative betting agent.
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Arbitrage doesn't work anymore, because the odds are so close, it is not interesting anymore. Your example of 0.6/0.8 difference you not see anymore.
I have noticed it's very hard to find good opportunities!
@@NewMoneyUA-cam Bookmakers now operate like high frequency trading platforms, as soon as one shortens the odds, all the rest do so as well, instantly, it's impossible to get mathematical advantage now except for their low bet special offers.
Max bet doesn't help either
You can just using different methods
The hometown from where a quote tennis player, boxer, racehorse or whatever is always going to have the shortest odds to win so you don't have to look everywhere for the shortest odds only the hometown. This is known as hometown bias something the maker of this video doesn't even realize.
I used to work in pubs, and late on a weeknight there was often no people in the bar so I used to watch the TAB.
There were ALOT of times in a greyhound race where the favourite was priced so short that every other dog was paying more than $3.50 to place. If there was 8 dogs in the race, that means there’s a 2nd and 3rd dividend, so for a $7 investment, the least you would make back was $7 if you just backed every roughy for a place.
If the favourite got checked and all three that placed were roughies, you’d get back even more.
Sometimes the odds might come a bit shorter after you place your bet, but very rarely would it come shorter than the $3.50 each
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Naming odds in dollars and cents..
Congrats mate, you managed to beat them at their own game with your wits.
Finally someone can actually explain this and I totally understand, thanks
be careful of possible "draws" in a match as well which in the case both bets will go unreturned
Playing game who can't draw then
Take 1x and V2 in those case and the problem is resolved.
how about if u are relying on 1x and 2x respectively
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odds and payouts change wildly as betting goes along leading up to an event. you could do way better by placing bets early on huge favorites, as the odds spread out and they get wider to compensate then you can place on the underdog for a wider spread.
Really like this one, never thought of it.
Brilliant. I’m definitely going to try this. Thanks man
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only best part of 20 years behind automated API's doing just this....
Obviously u r not doing this. You’re just making uninformed comments.
In the end... the house does win (by banning you, lol)
Exactly. Only way to remain profitable is to pay others to use their accounts (which is completely legal done in the right way), but still makes this difficult. Punters should be given a fair go.
as the house lost its money already before banning you, they lose. against smart people. in general they win, but not because of a 100% concept, but as of people who buy crappy odds.
They did not win. They just avoided losing
365 likes. Coincidence? I think not.
just shows that the majority loses as they do not know how to beat them. this is all about knowledge.
Why he got banned because he wasnt winning all the time on one bookmaker? 🤔 He would one win one side and lose on the other.
This has seriously opened back up my curiosity into this subject
clever young kid... hope you discover all the arbitrage stuff in the stock market world so u dont have to sell your lifetime called work for someone!!
I hope so too!
arbitrage in a liquid market is a lot harder to capture. you are competing against bunch of stat/cs phds lol.
against AI now...
Tell me more o wise one
Tell us more please. Any money I make off of your advice I will give you 10%.
Funny you bring this up, I once thought I was the smartest sports better with same idea.😂 I never attempted it because I thought there had to be a catch I was missing. Thx for video!
Same here! 😂 I was like "I have to be missing something huge here, everyone would obviously do this so there's no point, definitely a catch"
Do you have some odds
When our children complain about learning math just point them to this video.
Starts at minute 03:20
This literally happens in Derivatives Trading in financial markets. There are traders being paid all year to find arbitrage opportunities
Hes talking about an iron condore basically correct?
@@dxxolive1830 nope, just differences in prices between exchanges
I was sportsbetting fulltime a few years ago, for years and years there's been bots doing this ahead of players. Unless you have accounts on the large chinese and us bookies (or at least it was like that in my time), the potentials for arbitrage is for very small amounts, and even when you're on the bigger sites, the pending-procedures of the bets make it close to impossible. Calculating the rake the house takes is an advantage, but i would not advocate that anyone try to do this, as even the pros find it extremely difficult (if not impossible, in the long run)
Why it's math use an equation wtf are you talking about ?
I got banned from Ladbrokes for doing what you did back in 2016. Thumbs up!
Do you lose money in your account when you get banned? Or can you just withdraw it all?
Pretty much all bookies will do that, or limit stakes to ridiculous 5 bucks per match.
Same with me. I got banned from William Hill in England after making £3000. I have a video on it on my channel if you fancied taking a look.
What happened to me at least was they waited for my last bet to go through (lost) then sent me an email saying I was banned from all promos. I was able to withdraw money by making a call to customer support but couldn't withdraw via browser/app.
and arbitrage betting or matched betting are both extremely popular and have been for years
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I was doing this back in the very early 2000's and the biggest problem you run into is that sites limit the amount you can bet. Also to get the right match up you have to sign up to some lesser known betting sites and some of those suddenly stop answering when you go to get a pay out.
do you think this method works?
This is indeed very tricky, depending on where you are.
Damn, congrats! I saw this in my financial management course. You basically discovered a method that is used frequently by financial managers to hedge their funds all by yourself!
Everyone knows this lol
@@ssanj17 Okay guy, you making millions from sports betting right now? Good returns? Quit your day job?
Jackass
Its not possible anymore (Maybe some not developed country or so) but we did it in good old days on the university, after a month they stop to pay us profits and cancel some bets. They now use same software , so no more arbitrage:-)
@zucker berg that's a lol from me
Very good video mate, great disclaimer at the end, big ups
We were banned by many bookies too 😉
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There is something that I don't understand: You always win when you combine different bookies - as explained; but it does not mean that you always win in the same bookie. So, why would a certain bookie ban you?
my thoughts exactly!
Some may share same data base, some track win rate, some may ban otherwise
It’s because he used the same bookie with the $2 round up odds for favourite - given favourite would win most times (and unluckily in his case all the time) he probably had a 100% win streak on his account which looked “odd” to them
Bookies often know which contests are subject to Arbitrage and will be able to tell who is only betting in those events.
He was banned because of the amount he won on one specific promotional event. Ladbrokes was rounding up odds to $2 which let him earn a lot since he was betting on favourites who usually won. He only got banned from Ladbrokes too, botany other platform.
This is such an Australian story, love the way you tell it haha.
I once bet both sides during the same NFL game on the same sportsbook and was not flagged. Team A was down by 6 points with 2-3 mins left in the game but had a good QB and offense and I had a feeling they would drive down the field and score a TD, which they did. So at the start of the drive, the odds were like +200 for them to win and I placed my bet at this time. Then after they took the lead, there was still like :50 left in the game and the odds shifted to like +350 for Team B to win, so I bet on Team B to win with these odds at a lower money wager (they only needed a FG to win), which worked out to where I couldn't lose money no matter who won the game. Team A ended up hanging on to win, but my bet on Team B covered me in case my original bet on Team A lost.
did you ever consider making meaningless bets guaranteed to lose inbetween your arbitage bets to not throw up a flag in their system?
He didn't get kicked for arbitrage betting. He got kicked for only betting the promos, which happens all the time.
The first time I'd encountered this was in one of the Myth Adventure books where the characters bet in ONE town for the favourites to LOSE and in the other town for their favourites to lose.
Ohh you publish this video on my birthday day 😊
Day day..
If you want a profitable bet but also the risk/variance, then take an arbitrage bet, and flip a coin and bet on team A if lands on Heads, and bet B if lands on tails. The equity is the same as betting on both, but the variance is higher.
Another Adelaide boy. Love your videos.
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Banned from ladbrokes for winning? An exclusive club of thousands
LOL! Over the whole planet, probably millions!
Thousands of losers ' that's what they want
Ladbrokes are scum to winners
They ban arb betters fast belive it or b
Not
Ladbrokes = Broke lads
Hi Robert. I can tell you that arbitrage betting does work. I won nearly $30000 in just over two years. However, what the gentleman above may not realise is that the way to win really big money is betting on Overs and Unders in basketball, because with a situation like Under 161.5 with one bookmaker, and Over 160.5 with another, you can win on both sides if the total happens to be EXACTLY 161. Or if you have Under 161.5 with one and Over 161 with another, if the score happens to be 161, you win with the first bookmaker and get your money back with the second. That's how I won most of my money. Unfortunately, thanks to the Aussie government putting pressure on overseas bookmakers, arbitrage betting has become overwhelmingly more difficult. And yes, I've been banned and restricted by many bookmakers. It does work....but it does have a Use By date.
Never thought of this, absolutely genius idea
That does not work when the bets are -110 on both sides. Yea you can get super lucky to hit a perfect number to win both ways but it will never cover the 10% juice on both sides.
LMAO...that was a bit harsh
@Saz Stellar Why are you so salty? It's an actual betting strategy called middle betting. Look into it. Bookmakers design their over and unders betting to be a 50/50 chance. They fall between those under and over middles more often than you think
Not a smart strategy given you intention to win both sides means you need to land on exactly 161 total, always risk small for big gains, if you betting on under/overs priced $1.90 you will not see growth in your account.
This isn't Arbitrage Betting. This is the dutching method. Arbs are a bookmakers back odds vs a exchange lay odds.
Yeah another guy said that too! Shows you how inexperienced I am at sports betting :P
There are different ways to look at this, arbing can be seen as betting across just 2 outcomes. Dutching can be multiple bets. Arbitrage as per your definition is bookmakers v exchange and Dutching across bookmakers only. Dutching happened before exchanges existed, so there is probably some historical context between the various different definitions.
I was waiting for someone with sense to mention this.
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thank you ..for telling the world ..now every bookie is watching this clip on youtube
Absolute zero chance of working out arbitrage system after 13 pots. In fact I wouldn't even be able to pronounce it.
A great video and a great yarn! Cheers.
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Really good story Brandon, also profitable, you beat the house, well done!
I've started to like you bro.. your maths easily understood
I do this w LIVE betting.. when one team is ahead and it's over +200 I bet it.. then the other team +200 I bet.. it happens more often that you think. Especially baseball.. and basketball "game of runs"
Nice bro could you explain a bit more?
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I think it took the first gambler ever about 10 seconds to work this out.
Yet almost no one does it still
Very well explained. Argitrage is hard work. Betting odd amounts will alert bookies (ie betting $24.71 as opposed to $25 or $30). However, these rounded up figures will cost you your advantage. Read fine print for each bookie, because they all differ, particularly in tennis matches if a competitor retires for whateve reason. You will need to set up numerous bookie accounts with at least a few hundred dollars in each account. You will need at at least $20,000 to seriously begin. The most critical, which is not mentioned, how do you compare multiple bookies odds at the same time?????
Opportunity is there, but how do you identify it?
i made a software for comparing bookies in real time lol
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You don't need 20 000 fucking dollars wtf are you talking about
I just made a video on this 😂.
I know how to not get banned man. You need to do certain things like bet real close to the game rather than days before.
Sneaky, someone tag them in here ;)
also if you're going to arb live bet especially NBA it is good to have 2 accounts to do it on and bet 1 ML on 1 acc and the other on the other acc and keep switching weekly for taking the stronger ML lean on 1 acc..... example 1 ml on 365 and other on bookmaker take your stronger lean on 365 for a week and weaker on bookmaker then next week take stronger lean on bookmaker and weaker on 365 that way you can keep rotating which accounts you are winning and losing on and books won't know that you're smoking them in arbs
@@combat_sportsbuff2637 Yeap
do you round the numbers too? It looks a little bit suspect if you bet a weird rounded number like in the video 73.46/26.54 lol
@@Matedogswe Yes!
Arbitrage betting sounds great, the only problem is, I feel there are very few reliable bookies, I’m not sure which ones I can trust. Where did you place most of your bets?
Spot on. In england the top bookmakers will ban you very quickly. Not really worth doing anymore
Everybody has a system, some work but most fail. Hope problem gamblers don't get a dopamine spike listening to this...Good on you though for taking some money back out of the system
Yeah true. I did feel proud of myself when I beat the system :)
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@BilkoPoker77 those near misses killed most accounts, if you put 1K and you have 5% each time you can calculate the potential profit.
I am so desensitized that I dont get any rush at all
Amazing when I see ppl going crazy on a game they aren't even betting on
As a general rule of thumb, if it is too easy it will have already been exploited and deemed useless. If you are into sports betting you will have to invest time to study the fundamentals.
This has sadly been made impossible in my country through taxation. On sports betting, we lose quite a lot through taxes, there's one that's 5% on all the money that we bet (e.g. if you put 100 dollars on a ticket, you're actually putting 95 since 5% got cut through that tax) and then, there's 10% tax on total returns. Making arbitrage betting almost impossible, or at least I have not found a way around it.
If anyone manages to find a solution, please let me know, but I'm not optimistic. I knew I already was living in a ridiciolous country, but didn't even know this until recently.
@@lukasstaudter4034 Croatia. Do you guys have the same thing maybe?
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Taxing the amount bet instead of just the return is ridiculous, nothing else is treated that way
I have checked the bookers in Kenya to look for opportunities like this and they are very difficult if not impossible to find, I got excited watching the video but that has changed very quickly
It's impossible..?
@@harrisonkiprotich2859 Do you have a different view? which booker's do you use to implement this idea, I have checked sportybet,betika,1xbet, odibet and their odds do not offer me the arbitrage
@@bethwelodero1096 too bad I checked too...
Plus taxes also you can get much out it
@@harrisonkiprotich2859 Even before the taxes, the odds for one game should differ between the bookers to create the arbitrage, for the ones I mentioned, it's like the odds are being set in one office, so applying the trick presented in this video will not work.
@@bethwelodero1096 maybe do some more research and than be patient. If the example with the tennis match works, you only need a few of this differences to make at least some money in a few months.
Where is the calculator?
This is pretty interesting actually. A lot of people have done this before but you get banned quite quickly. Especially when the bookies talk to each other and find out what you are doing. I've been banned before but not too fussed.
If you had two people/bank accounts doing it it would be unnoticable over time.
@@Illegiblescreamhow does that make it unnoticeable?
@@moxine_ different identities attached to the bets
I am not understanding the banning. You say they kicked you because the house didn't win. That can't possibly be true. The same betting site isn't always the one paying you. Sometimes the long shot wins. But even if it didn't, why would they suspect if you always bet on the sure bet? The only way they could catch you if the same company owns both sites and sees you betting in both sites. I imagine the $73.46 raises alarm flags too, but just winning shouldn't even be noticeable.
Its not about being suspect, Its not illegal to do the arbitrage betting method, and ladbrokes likely didnt know he was doing that, but what did happen is that he per chance, won alot on there, and as its a private company they have the right to refuse service, they dont want you to make money, they want all of yours, If you win a lot of money consistently dont be surprised if you get banned
@@clemfandango274 but he'd have to be betting 1000s of dollars to make any real money. For $100 he made 4. He would have to be betting 10000 or more before he starts 'winning big'. They won't even notice if he won 40 bucks ($1000 bet, and remember it is also split). I still have no idea what he did that even caught their attention.
No, with the promotional offers he get's really good arbitrage profit margins. The problem is, the bookies have software that analyzes how you play, they're quite efficient at finding out if people are arbitrage betting (usually people will bet higher than usual or bet their full cash roll).
He could've won like a couple grand over some time, without losing any. This is certainly enough for them to kick him out. This is why many arbitragers purposely lose money and try to also make stupid bets or the like, to confuse the system.
@@2Athenewins You are saying 'without losing', but he is losing.. on every event, and that loss won't be with the same betting site every time. It depends on who is giving the best odds on each player. And, if one site is always the one losing, then they suck at setting the odds and will be losing to everyone every time.
Like I said, unless one site is aware of what anyone is betting on OTHER sites, then they have nothing to determine whether someone is arbitrage betting or not other than the amount that they bet.
And again, if on a good margin he can make 4%, he would have to be betting 1000s of dollars regularly in order to ultimately profit a couple thousand dollars, and this dude is working at a gym while going to school... he ain't gonna have 1000s of dollars to continuously bet with. In order to profit $2000 from this, assuming he makes 5% each time, which I would assume would be the upper end of profit, he would have to bet $1000 40 times. And, who you get profit from would be spread across multiple sites. If he evaluated 4 sites, then the average amount he would pull from any site would only be $500 over 10 bets, and some of those he would have lost.
The technique is absolutely real, and you can win money. But I just don't see how he could possibly get to an amount reasonably that would catch their attention and ban him.
Doug Sholly if you heard him state, ladbrokes ran a friday promotion, hence he won considerable amounts off the $2 promo, resulting in the ban.
Yes, not the same platform will always pay, hence harder to detect, however obviously with this specific promo he capitalised and was identified quickly.
Thanks for the video
Sometimes i wonder how people get rich at these days.
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I have 8 accounts on different betting sites across Europe, and I never ever saw the necessary conditions for this to happen.
It's a good strategy, but since odds move accordingly with the market and the flow of betting, this would only be possible in the first 5 min of the event being open for bets...
Don't do this, you'll lose money. Just bet a fixed stake a try to win the weekly bonus, your accounts will grow over time. If you don't know where to bet, find tipsters online and stick with just one! JUST THE ONE!
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Didn’t get any of that just looked at you and thought you look kinda like a Aussie George Ezra
This doesn't almost ever work since the spread between two book's odds will seldom be large enough to arbitrage profit. This is particularly hard with sports betting since bookies typically are making 3%+ margins, allowing virtually no room to arbitrage.
There are a ton of arbitrage opportunities, especially with all the online books now offering live odds.
Not true. I coded a program on Python that checks for arbitrage opportunities and there are actually tons. Of course the percentage is usually small, but you get surprises if you navigate many betting sites and consider different types of events.
Literally thought the same thing 🤣. My issue was trying to figure it out on the same book, not using the strategy with different books. Glad I stumbled on this 💪🏼
Same here lol
Still, i checked three different bookmakers now and cant seem to find an arbitrage, their numbers are just too similar
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Whaittt I’ve had this strategy mate 😂 I’ve made the Mathematical stuff, but it still seemed wrong. I’m really bad at maths 😒😒.
Same 😅😂
Do a breakdown with moneyline (US) style betting lines.
I know this video is 1yo but how did the first site know you were doing arbitrage? From their side of things, they only saw multiple bets on the promotion, something to be expected. How did they prove you were betting opposite on other sites?
since people looks so impressed with that basic video, for you all here is another simple trick:
imagine a soccer match, or any 3 possible outcome bet (team A wins or team B wins or a draw)
imagine the odds are: A wins /Draw/B wins= 2/3/2.5
if you want to bet a double chance event, for instance A wins or draw.
The fair odds for this event is 1.2 because if I spread my bet, lets say 10$, in two bets giving the same winning, I will put 6$ on first odd 2 to win 12 if A wins, and put 4$ on second odd 3 to win 12 if draw. so the fair double chance odd is 1.2.
HOWEVER, in the european bookmakers I use, they will most often offer odds below that number, like 1.15 .... so spread your bet in two bets when you double chance rather going for the one double chance bet offered by the house to have a better odd.
how good are you bro at betting. Like you win daily?
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I assume the 1.6k dislikes are from the bookmakers 🤣
Fuck bookmakers
How did you come up with 73$ and 26$ respectively
Another risk is if a head to head (2 way) market becomes a draw (or not include extra time in the match like golden point in certain sports), one bookmaker might just refund your money, but the other might treat it as a loss, you have to look at terms and conditions to be sure. I created a 3 way (win-draw-win) market arbitrage calculator in excel so I could arbitrage bet on soccer/football and test cricket, just to eliminate that risk. I think it's harder for them to ban you for arbitrage betting when you aren't betting on simple head to head (2 way) markets.
Please could you share on three way top (win draw win)
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You should totally put that on your CV alongside how much money you made off it. Impressive stuff
What do you mean “the house”? One bookmaker or all the bookmakers combined? Cause for this system you loose at one end and win at the other
Meaning if you placed the bet with the same place there is no chance of you winning. "The house" aka that company, always wins. Like the 2.7% and 4.9% shown.
You....think the bookie keeps the money you lose?
@@mikerotcherson They're probably paying a fee to the website, but yes, they keep the rest.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 That's not how bookmaking works. You're on UA-cam, look it up.
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