Match-Fixing, the Oligarch and the Ivy League: Inside the Most Corrupt Sport at the Olympics | PTFO
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- We tumble down the rabbithole of the global match-fixing scandal that’s quietly tearing apart the U.S. Olympic fencing team, ahead of their trip to Paris this month. And we investigate how it all connects to a spiraling refereeing crisis that takes us from Harvard and Princeton to the very top of the International Olympic Committee - and Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Where one of the world’s 100 richest people, Alisher Usmanov, has allegedly exported a culture of bribery and corruption that’s scared pretty much everybody in sabre fencing away from talking, on the record. Until now.
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I've been trying to shed some light on this issue for a while now but mainstream journalists seem really reluctant to dig into the subject. Thank you for this piece and thanks to Marcus for his bravery in coming out.
The crazy thing is that this rabbit hole goes even deeper.
Thanks for linking this video I probably wouldnt have found it
the journalists are not reluctant, their bosses/companies are paid not to allow stories about it
What's crazier is that all of this was 50 min long and didn't even cover Alshamlan & Luigi Tarantino, the depth of this corruption is insane
Thank you, Pablo. I've been fencing and refereeing in this sport for 30 years and this is the only way we can fix the sport
I am an FIE Sabre referee and I spoke about this in the testimony regarding other athletes.
THIS is journalism. You can just feel all these people squirming after he shined a light on them.
Nope. It's not. At least 50% of it is absolute bias and fake story. Everything related to Coach Stetsiv and Mitchel is BS.
I am one of a very small group of international referees that does not coach, fence competitively, nor have a current club affiliation. Thank you, Andrew, for discussing this. The wearing of different hats works against not only other fencers due to bias but also against referees who have no affiliation ("protection") with someone or some club who has power or status
I am an epeeist but like many fencers starting I watched Andrew's Channel and was even motivated to start my own, thank you for being an example of integrity and bravery many people including myself look up to you. Marcus is an absolute Chad with his comments "they don't have the balls to do it".
Thank you for making this video, fencing is my life and it pains me to see Sabre this way.
Jesus wept you know who calls people 'chads?' Incels. Please dont.
Thank you Pablo. I, along with several other people have been trying to shine light on this issue for quite some time.
It's very gratifying to see non-fencers giving us support and empathy, since our community's size sometimes makes us feel quite alone and defenseless against this power structure. I can only hope that you're the first of many to help us in this struggle, and I appreciate the work and care you've taken on our behalf.
Damn, what a story... *All* of the respect for your guests shining a light on the insane degree of corruption in their sport. I hope they're eventually able to get justice and can help rescue fencing from itself.
Great work Pablo. Never thought I’d care about fencing.
I’m tuning into Sabre fencing at the Olympics purely for the scandal 🤺🤺
Thats the spirit
@@MichaelSilverMedia pathetic. I suggest to skip it. Watch baseball.
@@drysabre2242 nah let’s see how it unfolds you dork
@@katelu_co hell ya
The kid whose parents bought him tons of lightsabers was rigged to win? I only ever had 1 😢
sigh.. sadly sounds tat way... this kind of thing puts other peopple off the sport...
This conversation is bias against Mitchel. Mitchel us a great fencer and has nothing to do with this dirt. Chasing these amazing g young people- Mitchel and Tatiana is a shame.
@@drysabre2242 Oh look we playing this on astroturf
Wow. I sincerely thought we couldn't top the Marcus Jordan and Larsa Pippen episode but here we are. 👏👏👏
Award-worthy episode today.
Thanks for shining a light on the sport that made up most of my days for 14 years
The leadership has always been a mess, but this is worse than usual.
There's way more than what is covered here but it's a fantastic spot to begin
The funniest part of the Nazlymov video is that while the refs are throwing her points her grandfather, the famed coach Vladimir Nazlymov, is mock-refereeing the points and giving every point to her opponent
Thank god for outside coverage, just a step closer to actually fixing these huge problems
Thank you for using your platform to highlight this issue. This means so much for the fencing community
@@Donomon2461 he's using platform to make money. At the very beginning he said he doesn't give sh!t about fencing. F him.
8:12 Andrew says everybody knows everybody which is funny cause I trained with Mitchel for a short time and I have a Snapstreak with Andrew lol. Oleg Stetsiv once coached me at a NAC when my main coach couldn’t make it
Great. And do you think too that Mitchel doesn't deserve his spot at Olympics? Allegations against him and Stetsiv is total bs.
Mark, I know you too. Your coach has been smeared by Pablo (and Andrew helped him a lot).
@@drysabre2242 damn I’ve been recognized. Haven’t even been on the scene in 3 years. Who is this?
I don’t know Mitchel that well. I started training at Bergen on the weekends just a month or two before he went off to Harvard so when I say a short time I really mean it.
What a fascinating story! Thank you Pablo for bringing it to us.
Just started the video but I'm guessing now that Mitchell Saron, Tatiana Nazlymov, and Alshamlan are all getting called out (Fikrat and Milenchev too).
@@chizzmaster How Mitchel and Stetsiv are related to Fikrat's case? Do you really think Stetsiv has any interest in Tatyana?
Unfortunately even they talking about this are missing the point, it’s not the referees it’s not the Russian oligarch that’s the problem, it’s the sport… you cannot call yourself a sport if the referee has such a big impact on the sport or in some cases like the saber more than the athletes themselves. Catching them or ousting them will not change a lot but either changing the rules or implementing AI referring would be the only solution. The conditions right now will always create a suitable situation for cheating in the whole sport.
Finally at least one sober comment. This f*n Pablo smears Mitchel and Stetsiv to get more views, and I hope Oleg will file a lawsuit against this idiot. Chip popularity comes eaysy. Yes, sabre need changes. One possibility is to get rid of right of way, and turn it to slashing epee. Not a big dill, will solve all the problems. The other - yes - AI,. I think this is more realistic, since sabre community strongly resists the idea of abandoning right of way. Meanwhile, live the kids alone. Bulling Tatyana and Mitchel is a shame. They, as athletes, has nothing to do with anything potentially wrong. Shame on Pablo, and I can't be happy with Andrew at all when it comes to smearing Mitchel.
there may be a way to fix the sabers blades and take away some of the referees impact over the point call and return it back to the elect. score box lights ....
@@marvindixon-vc7qf What are you talking about? Another expert...
Karen’s taking down the Russian Mafia is definitely a movie!
@@christopherdukes2476 How Stetsiv can qualify for being a Russian Mafia member?
I just looked at the USA fencing team going to Paris … both qualified as number 3 … so both are taking an innocent persons spot in the team …
As a gambler I’ll be backing both these two to win thank you for this
Thanks Pablo I love this sport and it’s nice to see this come to light.
This is a really good conversation that lots of Olympics fans need to see. The Olympics is just a platform to sell Coca Cola and State Farm commercials.
Tell that to Olympians. Fantastic how bunch of losers trying to smear top young fencers. Tatyana and Mitchel more or less were always on top since their Y10 events. Very well desrveed spots for US national team and Olympics. This f*n Pable at the very beginning said that he doesn't give a sh!t about fencing at all, and this is trus. He is a shi!t digger.
Pablo undermining the dude with his almost exact background does seem in character, there can only be one haha
Nobody wants to be dirty and see a true reporter.
Keep pushing Pablo. The Sports World needs you and what you’re doing right now. Bravo.
"I'm not afraid".
"They don't have the balls".
Braver man than me 😅
Wait until you research the 'technical rules' (the ones that tell you what the equipment/technology should do) and find out there are unwritten rules that equipment has to comply with that no one tells you about.
Been in fencing for a while. You see these at every level !
Will we allow new technologies to help us make better decisions?
Maybe, the tip of a Sabre blade is the fastest thing in the Olympics so tech can only go so far
I may have a way to fix this ,,,, with some what new tech ... I have set up my 7 sabers with it and it works very will and will last a long time and can stand up to anything saber can do to a sabre blade .....
Great vid to pass time while I'm up in the am sick. Thank-you Pablo
Thanks Andrew and Pablo. Just a side note. Cheating in fencing has always been there. Long before Usmanov. Federation used to be ruled by French and Italians. Same thing. I quit fencing after the Seoul Olympics, because 5 Russian directors never let me win a direct elimination bout. Dry fencing in that. After the bout they were arrogant enough to tell me that letting me win would have cost them too much financially. And I was just strong enough to win the gold. I lost interest in sabre afterwards.
Oh. And I have been directly told to cheat by officials in the International community.
Harvard still bragging about their USA Sabre Fencing team
I've been putting my friends on to this podcast for months and stories like this are exactly why. Thank you!
Wake up babe, Pablo Torre is about to find out
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Thank you so much for this episode. You and your team are really doing great work!
Need more true journalism like this in the world. Great work pablo, and thank you to those willing to speak out. Hope this improves the integrity of the sport (which I didn’t care about an hour ago but am truly invested in now)
small insular hierarchies ALWAYS devolve into this, add in some Russian patronage culture and Ivy League elitism and voila; a toxic stew.
Wouldn’t be surprised to find out a transaction has been already made for the saber team to “get” a medal
Saron is 3rd
Incredible work.
"Something fishy has been going on since 2023..."
This indicated you've only been watching since 2023, and not literally any other time.
You should look into the boxing. Some really dodgy calls in the last Olympics
This is not surprising at all. It’s like the SAT scandal with all the Hollywood celebrities.
This is why Epee is better. Can't cheat the sensors (queue the next video where Pablo tells me someone is cheating the sensors in Epee.)
Awesome work, well done Marcus full suport!
I haven't seen anything about fencing. This is my first exposure to fencing probably ever? Outside of knowing it exists of course. That sucks. If you're a fan of the sport, it must suck that the only attention you're getting from non-fencing fans is about its corruption
Damn, another one bites the dust! Olympic Boxing Heavywieghts are very rigged. Rus vs Uzbek
Great job. Thanks Andrew being so brave
It's good to see USA fencing raised the alarm all the way to the FIE
I just thought of this. This is the closest thing to Real Sports that was on HBO in the 90s. Real journalism.
Awesome stuff! These issues need to be addressed or Sabre fencing is done for
Usmanov...
Is there a sports book offering lines on fencing anywhere?
Great work! You really explained this topic really well! I have never watched fencing before and know I feel like I know everything! A side note is that I don’t really like the explanation part with the animation, it’s just to much for me. But keep up the work ❤
NO it doesn't, and your know nothing about fencing. I think that Pablo may face a serious lawsuit for smearing coach Stetsiv's reputation. It is total BS, when it comes to Mitchel and Stetsiv. I am curious, what was the reason and who is behind this attack on Mitchel. Kind of can guess, but not interested in digging in this dirty laundry.
oh and basic cavalry drill - points beats edge...poke poke poke
DAMN PABLO! What a story, great job man. I'm truly impressed by your skills on this one.
Fascinating ep, absolute banger
That’s why epee is better. No right of way bs and relying on a judge to decide it.
Great insight
Yo these episodes just fly by. Amazing work as always. I'm legit impressed by the quality consistency.
Also, fuck these fencing regulations. What the hell!
So many broken dreams, a very sad story
Hut ab vor Marcus Schulz!
About time 🍿🍿🍿
Great episode.
Shultz return from retirement… beep
Princeton Coaching Job… beep
Collision Course… beep
As a fencer I'm gonna enjoy this. (Foil tho not saber. Saber is stinky ) 😅
lmao
This is so fascinating. Bravo Pablo!
Wasn't fencing also one of the sports involved in the US college admissions scandal a few years ago?
It was. I have a question in my turn: Is fencing the only sport that has scandals time by time? Actually, only one that you mentioned, because this one is BS. It's all about views and likes. While problem exists, this f*n Padlo has no clue about what he's talking when it comes to Mitchel and his coach. I hope Coach Stetsiv will file a lawsuite against f*n Padlo.
Yes. That the only thing that is interesting if fencing
Hear me out…real swords in the mf
LFG Pablo, great report!
heck yeah!
Horrible that politics can take over sport.
Horrible that bloggers distort a reputation of Mitchel and his coach Stetsiv.
Never thought a sport dirtier than boxing could exist 😂
you are still right, plus many others before fencing ....
Fencing is a great sport . Pablo is an a$$hole. Andrew care about his channel more than about anything else.
Woah. Feels surreal.
Wow
Why don't people want to work to get good friends, instead of all too often quickly settling for bad friends?
..."recently"?
The corrupt Sochi Olympics including the womens figure skating controversy comes to mind.
Gymnastics, Figure Skating, Boxing...track and field doping scandals... This is nothing comparing to Mitchel qualifying for Olympics. Bravo Padlo!
Excellent work Pablo!!!
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At the end there is a total lie about Stetsiv. First, Stetsiv is still coaching for Princeton. Second, Stetsiv always ran his own private club, before joing Princeton coaching stuff, and third - live him alone. Do at least small percentage of what he did as a coach.
No surprise - this kind of "investigations", a pseudo-journalism by people making living on inflating scandals, attack those "presumed guilty", on this occasion by reason of their nationality/origin, which in different context will be labeled by the same "journalists" as racist, hate, bigotry, etc.
So this isn't actually a sport its a hobby got it.
For Pablo. For tens of thousands in US only it is a sport.
@@drysabre2242 no offense but this sounds too incestuous to be taken seriously at the highest levels. Any governing body with a 'Soviet mindset' is problematic to say the least.
@@geoffnaggie961 you can't offend me. And USFA is managed on a its own model. I don't want to speak politics here, and sorry for not coversing with you anymore. I am furious because this idiot Padlo smears the entire sport. F him.
@@geoffnaggie961no offense, but you Padlo and Andrew care about their channel first. You, I guess has nothing to do with our sport and your opinion doesn't matter.
@@drysabre2242 i don't care about their channel. But if what they said is true then yeah it's barely a sport. I actually watched some sabre today with my wife. All the flailing and flexing for the judges is kinda adorable 🤣
I can't agree more with Pablo. He doesn't give a sh!t about fencing, and he knows nothing about fencing. But he messes around with statistics.
In the video there is a reference to US Fencing, actually denying "statistical proof" of cheating .... beside that statistics cannot produce cause-effect proof at all
Entitled rich millenials playing some stupid sport nobody cares about crying that they lost. Who could’ve seen this coming?
Man the Olympics suck.
Are you stupid?
Yawn
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Thank you for making this and helping to spread the information.