9:22 if they can record longer than a certain length of time, they get taxed as video cameras. Back in 2006, the EU controversially decided to classify high-end digital cameras as video recorders, which attached a customs duty of 5-12% for digital cameras imported into Europe. The classification was decided not just based on digital cameras' improving abilities to record video through its lens and sensor, but their ability to record direct input from external sources like televisions. A home video recorder tax would theoretically offset money lost from users recording movies off broadcast television or cable onto digital devices, though the EU has never been very clear on the tax's intent. The tax's consequence, though, has been felt in every digital camera user looking to use a DSLR in place of a camcorder, as camera manufactures would rather limit recording capability in software than raise the price of its cameras (or lower their margins). www.tested.com/tech/photography/44445-why-digital-cameras-have-a-30-minute-video-recording-limit/
Camcorder hands down. Optical Image stabilization, color accuracy and better lense. (and has better built in mic too, let alone ability to add external microphone, lights, etc). Chasing after babies, pets, concerts or sport event will show you why. Using DSLR for video shooting has its limitations. The image sensor will be damaged due to prolonged opened sensor while capturing video. DSLR is meant to have an instant burst exposure to the sensor. You'll need a big budget to go through sets of DSLRs. The only benefit is the ability to manually change lense, focal or color settings.
Did you try comparing the three cameras (camcorder, SLR and smartphone) in a studio environment and using artificial light? One thing you might want to check out, can you shoot with manual settings using your camcorder? I'm not familiar with you camcorder, but it looks to me like a consumer-grade camcorder that may have some manual settings. You should check the menus on your SLR looking for something like Meter Timer (that's what it is called on my Canon 5D Mark III.) In that menu you should be able to increase the amount of time you can record video on your SLR in the Video Mode. The biggest problem you may face is that you may run out of battery life. If you run into that, AC adapters are available. Realistically, shooting a 30 minute scene for example is way too long but it's nice to have longer time available.
No offense but the Camcorder just destroyed your samsung s7, 4K doesn't mean anything there. I use a Canon HF R800. And i mean, for the asking 200 dollars, you can do worse. It has OIS, 1080p@60fps which is all i want/need and that huge zoom is absolutely perfect for macro shots with shallow DOF (which btw, some phones can't even do close ups). I do believe it is better than most (if not all) smartphones despise having no """4K""". Thanks to the many features it has and especially the zoom (despise the shit quality lens with color fringing). I do still want to get into Mirrorless or semi-pro camcorders (because of way better low light y shallow DOF) but for the price for 200, is decent
I still own one. I especially appreciate the long range, recording duration and Carl Zeiss lense. I didn't buy my phone for video. I got it to play music and communication.
All the videos on my channel were done on my Nexus 5X smartphone. They are ok, but video quality is not too good. The video I did last weekend in low blue light just wasn't what I wanted. Working with my fat fingers and the phone touch screen was always very frustrating. I almost bought a DSLR at about $500, Nikon D3500, when all I really need is a camcorder. Just tonight, I bought a Canon VIXIA HF R800 on sale for $220 US in Florida. Super happy that I went with a camcorder for many of the reason that you mention in the is video. $17 for a card that gives me hours of recording time. I will eventually still get a DSLR, but for now, all I need is a camcorder. Great vid man. And excellent points about pros and cons of camcorders. Thanks!
How don't you have more subs? The edits and everything were amazing takes a lot of skill to do that. Amazing review I subscribed to help people notice you. And cause the review was good I was thinking of getting one
The simple thing is that a "decent" camcorder is actually designed to shoot video with all the relevant controls to hand along with complete control of focus/exposure/sound amongst other things, also they can fit into a pocket and offer good value for money. A conventional SLR type camera was not designed to shoot video and is not comfortable to use hand held for any length of time especially with big lenses, also having no cooling fans they can get overheated in a short time. Smartphones can shoot good video footage and are very handy as most people own and carry them about with them all the time , however to make decent films with them takes a bit more than just hand held "point and shoot" and stick on the internet. The only people that normally produce "decent" videos with a phone probably understand how a conventional camera works and basic film language So yes all three are "capable" of producing a decent video, it's just that a camcorder is easier and better for the job.
The time limit on dslr cameras is due to taxes. By limiting it to 29 mins and 59 seconds, companies can avoid having to register it as a video camera which I guess they’d have to pay higher taxes for? Not sure how it works exactly, I just know it’s taxes lol. Certain countries don’t have this restriction and therefore their versions of the camera don’t have the time limits. Great vid btw, tempted to pick up a camcorder just for the heck of it lol
There a time limits imposed on digital cameras for video recording because if the time goes longer than a certain point that is classified as a video camera which is taxed at a higher rate when it’s imported into the country
Just subbed! You really need more subscribers, came across you channel when researching camcorders... still have fond memories for my canon dv tape camcorder back in the day.
Not everybody has a smartphone do they? Oh, just me then!! These phones are so very small to be using for a video camera, they have no weight to them, I should imagine shooting hand held would be practically impossible if you want shake free footage.
4k is just for to fit a bigger screen size like a screen that's 24 inches and bigger and there are cheap cameras the cost around 20 dollars and record in 4k but the video looks blurry and if you watch a 4k phone video on a tv you will see the how blurry it looks but if you watch it on a phone it will look different
Thanks for the vid. My own experience wholly agrees with what you explain here. You are true, concise and clear in what you say. I use DSLR, mirrorless, and I use my camcorder also. It's a delight while filming, a little less when examinig the footage, but still useful.
@@lostsaint i use the video camera for live viewing because there's no need adjust the settings unlike the DSLR you have to adjust the shutter speed aperture and the iso in order to make your video look good unlike the video camera it's Automaticliy set and it has a wide depth of field and it has a large LCD screen with HD veiw and melenials say that the video camera is the thing of the past and they can only see it in horror movies well the most larges number of generations who used the video camera to this day is the Boomer's and there's some young people nowadays who are still using camcorders but only a few of young generations used and owned a video camera those are the people who were born in the on the days were camcorders were still widely used like the 90s and early 2000s those are the kids who knows how to operate and used the camcorder from the oldest bulky heavy grey coloured model to small lightweight high tech and easy to use pocketable high variable HD zoom lens using the video camera is timeless
I'll take my Sony Handycam any day of the week for shooting video over using a phone. I plan on getting another video camera soon that has higher resolution, just not sure which one to get yet. But the Sony video camera has been fantastic the entire time I've had it- no complaints really. And Sony just seems to make things that are very intuitive and easy to use. From the remote controls for their tvs, and their video cameras as well.
Of course it depends on the use if you are just a one-off camera user or video recorder user then yeah phone is adequate but if you are recording sporting events you know your kitty games and or doing longer videos- the camcorder. First off if you are recording went outside the temperature will basically have that phone charge decrease dramatically you won't get through the whole game your phone will not have any power. Second speed and efficiency of use is so much better with a camcorder you turn it on it is ready to record... the where that camcorder will be the where you store it the where you have it was always going to be more ready than a personal phone. Also the zoom on the camcorder will destroy the attempt that a personal phone will make. Personal phone camera is not designed to do anything intense they and improve it but it's going to have limits. So it comes down to who is using it and why-if it's average people a phone is fine if it's people who record more than just a one-off moment...camcorder.
Great vid ! id like your advice .. Im looking for a camera to record my self Boxing (mainly just hitting the heavybag) i currently use the camera on my MacBook pro which is very poor quality and the vids take up a lot of storage..I record my self in my garage and the lighting is not great at all .. i don't need anything fancy.. only special feature id like is if it can record 4K maybe.. Can you suggest any 200$ or less ..
The colours looked natural tho on the camcorder Im actually quite afraid on the shutter count life span on DSLRs where people submitted when they had failed so im like i need an investment which last longest since im a school photographer so far with 60K SC after 3years so alot of hell but im prolly gonna move out and quit and do for personal projects which could prolong lifespan of the DSLR So im Looking at all options but to have no artistic on the camcorder bummer
many of my favorite memories are on miniDV, and the video quality isn't the worst. i still own my family's miniDV handycam from back in the day. thought about making a video about it, but we'll see.
The form factor keeps makes the dslr susceptible to over eating. The longer it runs the more heat builds up. So it will shut itself off to cool down or else it will catch on fire
I think consumer camcorders are largely pointless. However, for professional applications, camcorders still have their place. Professional camcorders are well suited for event coverage and news gathering. There are prosumer camcorders that blur the lines, and I could see those having value. The Sony AX700 is one of those prosumer models. It has a 1" type sensor, which falls somewhere between the Handycam and the DSLR. There are serious drawbacks to a camera like the Nikon D3400, but a lot of those drawbacks have been addressed in newer mirrorless cameras. You can get XLR adapters for professional audio. Many mirrorless cameras now have electronic viewfinders, in-body image stabilization, fully articulating screens, and headphone jacks, unlike the D3400. A camera like the Canon EOS R7 is a much better video tool than the D3400 for reasons beyond the 4K resolution. Some professional camcorders are cinema cameras with large, DSLR-style sensors and interchangeable lenses. They're really the best of both worlds for shooting video if you don't mind the high costs and the bulk.
There's no way a lens the size of a zit can substitute for a proper video lens on a camcorder. Cellphones take terrible looking video in comparison. I have an S7 edge too and no, it doesn't take 4k video. It's 1920x1080 at its max resolution.
The direction goes to photo camera with video recording ! So you don't need both a camera AND a camcorder anymore ! BUT you alwas need to compare with same price in 4K UHD 24/25/30p and unlimited recording time. The bottleneck for an all in one device is at the moment law and politics. Most cameras are limited to 29 minutes video recording (only the very expensive ones aren't), to not be declared as camcorder which have much higer taxes in EU. Politicians need to change laws imo, because this suppots less energy waiste ressources waiste electronic waiste and space waiste. Why 2 devices (camcorder and camers) if you can have all in one ?
9:22 if they can record longer than a certain length of time, they get taxed as video cameras.
Back in 2006, the EU controversially decided to classify high-end digital cameras as video recorders, which attached a customs duty of 5-12% for digital cameras imported into Europe. The classification was decided not just based on digital cameras' improving abilities to record video through its lens and sensor, but their ability to record direct input from external sources like televisions. A home video recorder tax would theoretically offset money lost from users recording movies off broadcast television or cable onto digital devices, though the EU has never been very clear on the tax's intent. The tax's consequence, though, has been felt in every digital camera user looking to use a DSLR in place of a camcorder, as camera manufactures would rather limit recording capability in software than raise the price of its cameras (or lower their margins).
www.tested.com/tech/photography/44445-why-digital-cameras-have-a-30-minute-video-recording-limit/
shophet125 just one more reason I'm glad I don't live in Europe.
That's not true anymore, thank goodness.
I think it's very interesting the fact that the carecorder gave the impression of faded film. I love that!
Camcorder hands down.
Optical Image stabilization, color accuracy and better lense. (and has better built in mic too, let alone ability to add external microphone, lights, etc).
Chasing after babies, pets, concerts or sport event will show you why.
Using DSLR for video shooting has its limitations. The image sensor will be damaged due to prolonged opened sensor while capturing video. DSLR is meant to have an instant burst exposure to the sensor. You'll need a big budget to go through sets of DSLRs. The only benefit is the ability to manually change lense, focal or color settings.
Did you try comparing the three cameras (camcorder, SLR and smartphone) in a studio environment and using artificial light? One thing you might want to check out, can you shoot with manual settings using your camcorder? I'm not familiar with you camcorder, but it looks to me like a consumer-grade camcorder that may have some manual settings. You should check the menus on your SLR looking for something like Meter Timer (that's what it is called on my Canon 5D Mark III.) In that menu you should be able to increase the amount of time you can record video on your SLR in the Video Mode. The biggest problem you may face is that you may run out of battery life. If you run into that, AC adapters are available. Realistically, shooting a 30 minute scene for example is way too long but it's nice to have longer time available.
No offense but the Camcorder just destroyed your samsung s7, 4K doesn't mean anything there.
I use a Canon HF R800. And i mean, for the asking 200 dollars, you can do worse.
It has OIS, 1080p@60fps which is all i want/need and that huge zoom is absolutely perfect for macro shots with shallow DOF (which btw, some phones can't even do close ups).
I do believe it is better than most (if not all) smartphones despise having no """4K""". Thanks to the many features it has and especially the zoom (despise the shit quality lens with color fringing).
I do still want to get into Mirrorless or semi-pro camcorders (because of way better low light y shallow DOF) but for the price for 200, is decent
Handycam masterrace checking in.
I still own one. I especially appreciate the long range, recording duration and Carl Zeiss lense. I didn't buy my phone for video. I got it to play music and communication.
All the videos on my channel were done on my Nexus 5X smartphone. They are ok, but video quality is not too good. The video I did last weekend in low blue light just wasn't what I wanted. Working with my fat fingers and the phone touch screen was always very frustrating. I almost bought a DSLR at about $500, Nikon D3500, when all I really need is a camcorder. Just tonight, I bought a Canon VIXIA HF R800 on sale for $220 US in Florida. Super happy that I went with a camcorder for many of the reason that you mention in the is video. $17 for a card that gives me hours of recording time. I will eventually still get a DSLR, but for now, all I need is a camcorder. Great vid man. And excellent points about pros and cons of camcorders. Thanks!
How don't you have more subs? The edits and everything were amazing takes a lot of skill to do that. Amazing review I subscribed to help people notice you. And cause the review was good I was thinking of getting one
The simple thing is that a "decent" camcorder is actually designed to shoot video with all the relevant controls to hand along with complete control of focus/exposure/sound amongst other things, also they can fit into a pocket and offer good value for money. A conventional SLR type camera was not designed to shoot video and is not comfortable to use hand held for any length of time especially with big lenses, also having no cooling fans they can get overheated in a short time. Smartphones can shoot good video footage and are very handy as most people own and carry them about with them all the time , however to make decent films with them takes a bit more than just hand held "point and shoot" and stick on the internet. The only people that normally produce "decent" videos with a phone probably understand how a conventional camera works and basic film language So yes all three are "capable" of producing a decent video, it's just that a camcorder is easier and better for the job.
I would like to add that a DSLR depending on the brand can have overheating issues when doing video
Took an old one out, i would say they are worth it if you want something easy and fun to use and that people you film are more relaxed too
smartphones also usually have much less efficient encoders, so the file size is insanely high for the quality of the image
The time limit on dslr cameras is due to taxes. By limiting it to 29 mins and 59 seconds, companies can avoid having to register it as a video camera which I guess they’d have to pay higher taxes for? Not sure how it works exactly, I just know it’s taxes lol. Certain countries don’t have this restriction and therefore their versions of the camera don’t have the time limits. Great vid btw, tempted to pick up a camcorder just for the heck of it lol
That law no longer exists, so newer cameras can have longer record times. But then you get into issues of overheating, depending on the camera.
This video cleared my doubts about the usage of camcoder and its uses. Great info !!!
DSLR can be very heavy and intrusive as well. Camcorders are designed for video
Well presented, no ego or acting up, just refreshing and informative content like most of us want. Thanks
Great video! Thank for sharing your knowledge and experience, It's a shame you don't have more followers, you really deserve.
I still use one :)
Camcorders are going to be always up and ready over the years of use then a phone
Just came across your channel, good stuff.
What a great video. Good job guy!!!
What camcorder do you prefer for me im a beginner vlogger
There a time limits imposed on digital cameras for video recording because if the time goes longer than a certain point that is classified as a video camera which is taxed at a higher rate when it’s imported into the country
Just subbed! You really need more subscribers, came across you channel when researching camcorders... still have fond memories for my canon dv tape camcorder back in the day.
keep making videos!! you’re great for youtube
Thank You my brother. Good and educative video, ever. Keep this up.
Not everybody has a smartphone do they? Oh, just me then!! These phones are so very small to be using for a video camera, they have no weight to them, I should imagine shooting hand held would be practically impossible if you want shake free footage.
For me I use my Pixel 2 XL for taking pictures and my Panasonic camcorder for recording videos. Enough said
4k is just for to fit a bigger screen size like a screen that's 24 inches and bigger and there are cheap cameras the cost around 20 dollars and record in 4k but the video looks blurry and if you watch a 4k phone video on a tv you will see the how blurry it looks but if you watch it on a phone it will look different
Thanks for the vid. My own experience wholly agrees with what you explain here. You are true, concise and clear in what you say. I use DSLR, mirrorless, and I use my camcorder also. It's a delight while filming, a little less when examinig the footage, but still useful.
Totally, less common definitely doesn’t always mean less useful. Thanks for watching!
@@lostsaint i use a DSLR camera and a video camera
fumpa umpa I use both interchangeably as well. Really depends on the type of film i'm trying to get
@@lostsaint i use the video camera for live viewing because there's no need adjust the settings unlike the DSLR you have to adjust the shutter speed aperture and the iso in order to make your video look good unlike the video camera it's Automaticliy set and it has a wide depth of field and it has a large LCD screen with HD veiw and melenials say that the video camera is the thing of the past and they can only see it in horror movies well the most larges number of generations who used the video camera to this day is the Boomer's and there's some young people nowadays who are still using camcorders but only a few of young generations used and owned a video camera those are the people who were born in the on the days were camcorders were still widely used like the 90s and early 2000s those are the kids who knows how to operate and used the camcorder from the oldest bulky heavy grey coloured model to small lightweight high tech and easy to use pocketable high variable HD zoom lens using the video camera is timeless
Tthumps up! Is it possible, to film 3 hours?
With a Powerbank, loading? Or double bigger Akku?
I'll take my Sony Handycam any day of the week for shooting video over using a phone. I plan on getting another video camera soon that has higher resolution, just not sure which one to get yet. But the Sony video camera has been fantastic the entire time I've had it- no complaints really. And Sony just seems to make things that are very intuitive and easy to use. From the remote controls for their tvs, and their video cameras as well.
What’s this camcorder call and does it have a classic vhs old retro camera style or film
I have the same Sony camcorder handy cam, what model is the charger for it because I lost mine and I can’t used it until I get a charger, do you know?
Hey so it’s me b day in a month and I want a camera. I want to know if I should buy a camcorder or a GoPro hero 7 black? Plz respond
personally it really depends on what kinds of videos you'll be making. Hero 7 would be much more useful in most scenarios though, in my opinion
Of course it depends on the use if you are just a one-off camera user or video recorder user then yeah phone is adequate but if you are recording sporting events you know your kitty games and or doing longer videos- the camcorder.
First off if you are recording went outside the temperature will basically have that phone charge decrease dramatically you won't get through the whole game your phone will not have any power.
Second speed and efficiency of use is so much better with a camcorder you turn it on it is ready to record... the where that camcorder will be the where you store it the where you have it was always going to be more ready than a personal phone.
Also the zoom on the camcorder will destroy the attempt that a personal phone will make. Personal phone camera is not designed to do anything intense they and improve it but it's going to have limits.
So it comes down to who is using it and why-if it's average people a phone is fine if it's people who record more than just a one-off moment...camcorder.
Great vid ! id like your advice .. Im looking for a camera to record my self Boxing (mainly just hitting the heavybag) i currently use the camera on my MacBook pro which is very poor quality and the vids take up a lot of storage..I record my self in my garage and the lighting is not great at all .. i don't need anything fancy.. only special feature id like is if it can record 4K maybe.. Can you suggest any 200$ or less ..
Hey there, just wondering what lens did you use with your Nikon DSLR to vlog this in?
Thank you so much man this really help me out a lot
What are your thoughts on a camcorder vs iphone X for picture stills? How much would you need to spend on the camcorder?
The colours looked natural tho on the camcorder
Im actually quite afraid on the shutter count life span on DSLRs where people submitted when they had failed so im like i need an investment which last longest since im a school photographer so far with 60K SC after 3years so alot of hell but im prolly gonna move out and quit and do for personal projects which could prolong lifespan of the DSLR
So im Looking at all options but to have no artistic on the camcorder bummer
I still use miniDV...
many of my favorite memories are on miniDV, and the video quality isn't the worst. i still own my family's miniDV handycam from back in the day. thought about making a video about it, but we'll see.
It has a nice look
very well done and informative, but please stop the terrible background music. better use no music or make your own, which is very easy these days...
camcorders dominate imo, especially 4k camcorders by a good brand
Camcorder should have bigger megapixel and high capacity batery and can link with smartphone to share it++ nightvision now it will worth it
Just subscribed
I agree
Yeah that's what I'm looking for for is better Zoom trying to step up my UA-cam channels game a little bit you did a really good review here
The form factor keeps makes the dslr susceptible to over eating. The longer it runs the more heat builds up. So it will shut itself off to cool down or else it will catch on fire
You are Better than the handy cam bro.
man the camera in my Phone looks like rice, camcorders for the win
I just subscribed to your channel.
Keith
Hey mate to make you happy I'm gonna get one for Christmas
thanks you're excellent i'm buying a camcorder then!! :))))))))))))))))
Camcorder is useless unless you are willing to buy more than 1000$
I think consumer camcorders are largely pointless. However, for professional applications, camcorders still have their place. Professional camcorders are well suited for event coverage and news gathering. There are prosumer camcorders that blur the lines, and I could see those having value. The Sony AX700 is one of those prosumer models. It has a 1" type sensor, which falls somewhere between the Handycam and the DSLR.
There are serious drawbacks to a camera like the Nikon D3400, but a lot of those drawbacks have been addressed in newer mirrorless cameras. You can get XLR adapters for professional audio. Many mirrorless cameras now have electronic viewfinders, in-body image stabilization, fully articulating screens, and headphone jacks, unlike the D3400. A camera like the Canon EOS R7 is a much better video tool than the D3400 for reasons beyond the 4K resolution.
Some professional camcorders are cinema cameras with large, DSLR-style sensors and interchangeable lenses. They're really the best of both worlds for shooting video if you don't mind the high costs and the bulk.
There's no way a lens the size of a zit can substitute for a proper video lens on a camcorder. Cellphones take terrible looking video in comparison. I have an S7 edge too and no, it doesn't take 4k video. It's 1920x1080 at its max resolution.
the dslr is like a movie camera and the camcorder is like a sports camera
It's done. Only good to record sporting events.
Camcorder looked better
The direction goes to photo camera with video recording ! So you don't need both a camera AND a camcorder anymore ! BUT you alwas need to compare with same price in 4K UHD 24/25/30p and unlimited recording time. The bottleneck for an all in one device is at the moment law and politics. Most cameras are limited to 29 minutes video recording (only the very expensive ones aren't), to not be declared as camcorder which have much higer taxes in EU. Politicians need to change laws imo, because this suppots less energy waiste ressources waiste electronic waiste and space waiste. Why 2 devices (camcorder and camers) if you can have all in one ?
Get your eyes checked mate; NOTHING about the phone was better than the video camera
Yes,they are because I only give shit about zoom