He also does this with FP SS4 goku, he never gives him his 18 ki which is the temporary stack then is flabbergasted when he takes damage the next rotation
Lr trio doesn't dodge during the entire fight: *silence* Lr trio dodges 1 time (doesn't even matter because teq ssj goku would revive): OMGGG GUYSS LET ME TWEET THAT, DODGE FOR LIFE SO COOL Jokes aside, dodge really is the better build for them, but still funny
28:23 What??? What is it with Datruth saying that EZA androids, LB vegito, and this trio is the top number 5 6 and 7 units in the game??? Where is: -Godku -Majunior -Z duo -Blue duo -SSj4 goku - Vegeta and trunks - WT goku - PHY ssj3 rose - Dark masked king - Teq fusion zamasu - 5th year anniversay EZA fusions - Sword of hope trunks - Carnival agl goku - birdku - 7th anniversary units A lot of these units are arguably easily better than this SSJ trio yet you put them above all of them with no justification lol
Of all the units you listed whining about top 7 units in the game and you list birdku? That fucker is outdated as hell. You could make a case for Majunior and 23rd wt goku but that's about it. V/T not good enough, Same with Godku, Z duo, Blue duo, Ssj4 with this current content can struggle, Rose and Masked king aren't doing what the top units are doing, Zamasu doesn't have enough around him, The blue fusions are vulnerable to aoes, SoH trunks is just G/V/T but worse, Kai Goku is fine but he's not anything special, My thoughs on birdku are at the start and the 7th anni units are just too old to be competing by this point. This list is comical.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 All of them can is many situations easily look better than this unit, thats why i picked them Birdku is better defensively, stacking, better for omega, and has a revive and can go slot 1. V/T not good enough? They are way better defensively, their active skill utility is incredible, and can go slot 1 Godku not good enough? Godku is the best tur he sh*t on most of the game, Godku is literally a unit that is better defensively than all the other TURs and then has a slappen on 60% chance to dodge on top of it LOL Z duos standby being able to slot 1 tank everything and then dish out a nuclear bomb when you need is arguably more useful than the ssj trios slot 2 role with still just goodish defense nothing incredible Blue duo is can go slot 1, and is one of the best slot 1 units in the game, then VB is utterly broken, SSJ4 goku literally has more defense and dmg reduction, as well as his UUB form is insane utility wise and ssj4 full power stomps on the ssj trio Fusion zamasu sh*ts on the ssj trio the first couple of turns, and then can get his domain and is invunrable to damage now The blue fusions arent that vunrable to Aoes, only the the fusion zamasu fight SOH is them but worse? SOH has no restrictions, unlike them, stacks up to have more defense than them by their second turn, does still do a crap ton of damage also, and his standby is one of the most powerful things in the game, he can many times look way better than the ssj trio Kai goku is better defensively, can go slot 1, has the ki nullifcation, and the heal too 7th year gogeta has 1million defense with 21% dmg reduction and 50% to nullify supers, i think when you compare that to the ssj trio who has 1million defense 30% damage reduction and no nullification, Gogeta ends up being better defensively, as well as they are better defensively turn 1 too The ssj trio is nothing special other than damage, they are a slot 2 unit making them already worse than a lot of the slot 1 units i mentioned, they don't even have that insane defense, and after turn 6 they become really mid. They really arent that special and in no way a definitive top 5 much less 10
@@thevipez8740 Birdku isn't a slot 1 unit anymore, as shown in this video, Fusion zamasu did 100k on aoe to a rainbowed birdku, If he gets superered in slot one he's taking a fuck load of damage, he isn't good enough defensviely anymore and He's not runnable on the best teams in the game due to a better revive being available so Birdku just doesn't cut it anymore V/T Takes a fuck load of damage from the dismal future red zone showing their primary weakeness, they're a slot 1 unit who's vulnerable early which is why their design isn't all it was ever hyped up to be. Godku just does less than the other big tur's Worse defensively and worse offensivly than Both LB Vegito and 23rd wt goku, And has less utility and damage than Majunior, there's no place that he excells that the others don't either, You complain that G/V/T is a slot two unit then defend the z duo for their standby when they're more vulnerable than G/V/T turn 1 where slot 2 units can struggle primarily due to aoes? Sure bud. Blue duo are slot one viable and that's literally it, If VB was guaranteed to come out then we could talk but if you get into the spot where their intro runs out and you're not vegito they're just worthless. SSj4 Goku can struggle the same way that V/T can, If the boss hits too hard too fast then he can't get to uub which means no Full Power while he also takes a bunch of damage. Fusion Zamasu as an individual unit is great but he has no team to run, His team is barely held together by duct tape and good luck if you as a player are missing even a single option for the barely put together team to begin with. The blue fusions were vulnerable to syn's aoes and they're vulnerable to Omega's too, they don't get dodge until they attack which means they just take a fuck load of free damage from aoes no matter what turn you're on. SoH trunks is like this unit where neither are exceptional defensively but they both dish out a fuck load of damage and that's their primary role except SoH is worse at it by dealing less damage. By the turn you're getting to Trunks' standby you're looking to end fusions zamasu's fight and You're trying to get through Omega just a few turns later so you're not even getting that much time in the standby Kai Goku does the same thing that V/T does Dies if the boss hits too hard too fast and his heal is just alright. You can't look at Phy 7th year Gogeta's peak turn as an example of why he's better, you'd be better off looking at averages where he's just worse in every metric. Does less damage, Worse defensively, Worse general link set, Worse leader skill, Worse SA effect. If we look at peak turns to compare what about G/V/T 1 turning bosses casually with just a little bit of set up? Who cares if you've got a million defense when you can just kill the boss instead. Sure they're nothing special except for damage which they far and away outperform every other unit by a mile. They're by far the most damaging unit in the game and it's not even close.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 Birdku is a slot 1 unit in the omega fight, that was my point. There is no better revive on movie heroes, super saiyans, goku family, earth bred fighters arguably, so what are you talking about? Vegeta and trunks takes a lot of damage? What are you talking about? Are you talking about a turn 1 slot 1 super, because in that case every unit takes a lot of damage from that, Bulma, future gohan, gt duo dies, this ssj trio gets one shot, etc. Vegeta and trunks on their first turn can go slot 1 as well as on the second turn they can easily go slot 1 with 700k start of turn defense and guard. as well as they dont need to be in slot 1 anyways, they can be in slot 3 and they would still be better defensively than this ssj trio "Godku just does less than the other big tur's Worse defensively " Thank you for telling me that you dont play the game ^^ Godku turn 1 has 500k defense and guard with 60% chance to dodge, WT goku is even comparable? Majunior is even comparable? And godku just gets stronger as the fight goes on too LOL Put majunior in slot 1 and lets see how he does LOL, also 300k from aoe normals LOL also wt goku is good offensively? After he revives sure, but pre revive he is literally doing like 3mil attack stats and sh*t lol Z duo is trash against AOEs but so is this ssj trio that takes 150k from fusion zamasus aoe, the z duo has type advantage so they actually take less. As well as their standby gives a lot more to the team than the slot 2 role of the ssj trio lol Vegito blue is rare? It literally is guranteed turn 7 so guranteed in the omega fight, or turn 5 under 70% which isnt uncommon at all. Also you seem to not get the point of my comment at all, as you are rambeling about things that have nothing to do with what we are talking about. My point was not arguing that all these units are by far better than the ssj trio, it was that the ssj trio is in no way definitively better than all these units as all these units can look a lot better than the ssj trio in many different scenarios, so you pointing out worst case scenarios for units has literally nothing to do with what we are talking about If the ssj trio is going to be definitively bettter than ALL of these units they need to be a slot 1 unit, which they are not, they NEED other units to do that role for them as they get destroyed in slot 1 as well as they. You can in no way call this unit definitively better than ALL of these units when the ssj trio is worse in many ways and looks worse in many scenarios
@@thevipez8740 While the ssj Trio CAN look worse than some of these units they are more often going to look miles better because of how much damage they just shit out for free with no issues. Godku is worse both offensively and deffensively than LB Vegito and 23rd wt goku Goku even without his revive has Super effective so he's going to deal more effective damage a lot of the time and then he leaps lightyears ahead in both categories once revive happens, Majunior is lightyears ahead offensively and then has the giant form for utility over Godku, This is not to say that Godku is bad by any means, It's just that the other top tur's have spots where they beat him out while Godku tries to do a little bit of everything so he ends up falling behind in other spots. The Z duo are vulnerable for the first few turns that is their primary problem that everyone complains about, They're not just vulnerable to aoes, they can't take the super either, Ssj trio is better at taking the super and better at taking the aoes. I specifically mentioned one of the most relevant parts of the game right now with dismal future redzone highlighting Vegeta and Trunks main weakness is that they're not all that great defensively for the first few turns, They are garbage against Red Zone Goku Black and First Form Cell for example. Some of these units in the right situations can for sure look better but that's the problem, they have to be in the right situation, We compare units between eachother and if a unit looks better 15/20 times then that unit is just a better unit, Because consistency is the single most important part of this game. If every good unit was a slot 1 unit they'd all get in eachother's way, Look at Vegeta and Trunks and Fpssj4 Goku, They're restricted to slot one and thus get in the way of one another, Having good slot one units and also good slot 2 units is necessary for your team to excel, if you have all Gamma 1's for example then your team will suffer because you can't get every one of them the hits they need and also you won't do enough damage to win the fight before you eventually just die, If your team is all gamma 2's then you'd likely die before turn 2. If you have Both Gamma 1 and Gamma 2 then you're going to be more successful 100% of the time.
One of the biggest problems with having such a high damage character on the team is the other characters like god Goku do not get their stacks in and get rolled and smoked in later phases
That’s why they have extra abilities. God goku specifically had guard and dodge (provided you could get it). Id say it’s a fair trade off as of right now.
I decided to calculate the damage numbers for these boys compared to the rest of the team, just to really show their impact with real data: Phy God Goku - 16,050,307 Str Future Goathan - 11,341,140 Teq Carnival Birdku - 8,163,054 and finally... Int Carnival Trio (friend) - 25,257,694 (including active skill) Int Carnival Trio (Truth's) - *62,740,588* (including active skill) see you all in 2 months when bosses will have 200,000,000 hp
Dokkan devs please update the friends system 😭 even if it's specifically for truths account let him use his unit as both leaders so we never have to ever hear him complain about the friend unit not having dodge, Pleaseeeeee
My boy you gotta switch PHY Super Magneto to a full dodge build. Its imperative to his survival if youre going to run that unit. BTW its crazy how often that friend unit was doing hidden potential additional normals with their 25 AA build. If I sunk that much into AA itd be driving me crazy seeing all those 50% chances going down the drain lol. There's a point with AA when they are doing all those AAs from passive that you don't need to hammer that nail so hard sinking all those points into AA. He could have given a few to dodge (or even crit) and it'd have rounded out the unit a lot better imo.
I like this unit but Dokkan has to stop with the characters that get good only post super. If you get both leaders on rotation you might as well forfeit.
If you're under 59% at the start of turn and TEQ Goku's on the rotation you revive with 59% HP if any character dies on that turn. You can only revive once per run.
I found it funny how everyone talks bad about the good units like god goku and these guys i never understood why people talk bad about good units just let them cook
Cool unit but I'm sleeping until they release a slot 1 unit like cmon what is this is the whole game supposed to be 'this unit can tank post super' or sometimes 'this unit can tank (normals) post super' it's so dumb. Like what do we have WT Goku and SSJ4 Goku who can actually tank pre-super in slot 1 so the rest of the units in the game we have to coin flip a dodge? They gotta put out units that can tank like come on...
@PhilLEFTnah he's better than mid imo. Mid means average, means you're not providing anything special to the team. But birdku has the revive and the attack break, so he's a bit better than mid I think.
@@sonodv1709 Yeah he has a revive and then he still gets slaughtered the next turn he's around by the scary bosses. His defense isn't good enough and that's all he relied on anyway. At 55% which a lot of people will have him out his defense isn't even enough to deal with int fusion zamasu comfortably. Truth's rainbowed ll10 goku took 100k from the aoe with his guard...
@@haydenmcqueen2503 yeah he took 100k from the aoe but the run would've literally been impossible without him. I also no itemed fusion zamasu with this team and Birdku hard carried, he revived turn 2 then turn 4 he attack broke zamasu's super. I have him 69% so he can't really take hits but he didn't need to, I just needed the reset with the revive and he provided that. He's not top 10 or even top 25 but he has stuff and I think that he's above average.
About them AoEing for your convenience. Probably because right before the turn starts out, the computer is picking its positions to hurt you, and you have no health, so it doesn't see you as a threat on this turn. Out-of-turn manual interventions like support items and revival are accounted for in their planning and the computer knows when you're out of options, but since they can't really tell whenever you'll use an item, you won't see them go crazy on trying to kill you until you've used out those options. All the enemy can do is work with what it already knows, and set you up to die in its best ability now or later.
The problem with this unit, to me, is that I have a new account (kinda new to the game), and it feels like what they do is put out insane dmg but thats it, not enough damage reduction or other support skills. Meaning, it looks like you really need to have a good team with them in order to survive. And with a new account I just dont have the characters to create said team. Also, if is about dmg Im guessing having them at 55% is not really gonna cut it. Sadly I think Im gonna have to skip them :/
11:20 I swear I have the same curse but only for this fight. I had the friend leader and my leader in the same rotation for 10 times in a row and it's so frustrating cause it's game ending.
@@HIHi-os1lr dude gohan makes the game extremely easy piccolo has only one good thing yes piccolo makes content from red zone red ribbon easier and older content but new content he dies easily
I think it’s time to reevaluate super vegito in the rankings, one of the few tur eza that doesn’t die to aoe pre super and only dies to supers (like 99% of the game)
@@b-trunksed5902 offense doesn’t mean shit in difficult content. Their dmg reduction isn’t nearly high enough to really be able to contend with future difficult content that is only getting harder. They are good now, 6 month from now they likely wont be.
This unit can get up to 800k defense on their active skill turn with 30% DR. Only aoe bosses can neutralize them early. And lets be honest, will Omatsu make more AOE bosses for the newer hard events in the 9th year anniversary?
@@alolandonaldtrump8368 Offense doesn't mean anything huh?So that mean The GT duo is completely useless in the zamasu event when he can literally one turn the second phase by himself,same for Mirai gohan on active skill turn,for trunks on standby skill turn,or the Agl vegito on active skill turn or the Tec one?
Yeah, int characters nowadays are giga-buffed since people are FORCED and force-fed dodge on the character. I give atleast 3 dodge to every character, some units I will give more dodge than others, but if their sa effect is really strong, or if both the SA and passive benefit enough from it, I will prio add. over dodge. If I had lb ss4 vegito rainbowed, he would probably have like 15-ish dodge and additional(since that busted unit would definitely get my strongest equips like aa/dodge)
I'd say, a non Dokkanfest unit, with one banner per year, with somewhat low stats can perform better overall in this fight compared to the new LR makes me think that LB SSJ4 Vegito will age VERY WELL.
im not the biggest fan of this unit, i hate how their DR is only for the first 5 turns and i think that theyd be a lot better if it was for more then 5 turns. other then imo not being omg defensive and meant for slot 2, there good damage wise but i feel like theyll age out in due time
yea unless your ssbk since all we need is a good top celebration and he'll be one of the best eza's and insanely busted again IF we ever get a good TOP celebration and it has to be quite soon or else he'll age out @@BasedCritEnjoyer
if they changed it to a goku on the team theyd be so much better but nooooo dokkan had to dokkan a unit and make sure that they are mid on release @@BasedCritEnjoyer
That smirk that Trunks does in their intro gets me ADRENALINE EVERY SINGLE TIME. Sheesh their intro is so good.
And that theme 😩😩😩👌💦
Did you buss ?
and that OST too. What a banger!
@@GodPoohdiniyes i indeed bussed .
hi truth do you like lego fortnite
I’m truth alt account and I can confirm I like Lego Fortnite battle royale
truth doesn’t respond to comments anymore
It’s not him it’s his alt
This is truth’s second Alt account and yes I do love Lego Fortnite
An actual original top comment? Now that's how you do it
1:57 Oh you know there'll be those people who won't even activate that free 5 dodge just out of spite lmao.
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Its so clutch @nophotos_616
Nobody's doing that shot bro
wasn't that only a thing for lr ssj4 goku?
Yup I regret giving him the 5 dodge@@Colors82
2:30 Magnetto strikes again 💀
He’s not THE Super Magneto for nothing
22:10 Don't you know that Future gohan gets his 20% dmg reduction on 18ki, why didnt you give him it? Skill issue
He also does this with FP SS4 goku, he never gives him his 18 ki which is the temporary stack then is flabbergasted when he takes damage the next rotation
he want to heal lol
Yeah I was perplexed on why he took so much damage
Lr trio doesn't dodge during the entire fight: *silence*
Lr trio dodges 1 time (doesn't even matter because teq ssj goku would revive): OMGGG GUYSS LET ME TWEET THAT, DODGE FOR LIFE SO COOL
Jokes aside, dodge really is the better build for them, but still funny
Its the better build if for some weird reason you decided to not use items against the hardest boss in the game
SSJ Trio took the AOE decently but Fusion Zamasu still being the menace he is. The free dodge will help.
Being INT saved them, I can't lie.
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Bro has literally a cheat code for always being on top comment
@@b-trunksed5902 I’m not even top comment the user asking if Truth likes LEGO Fortnite is 💀
@@PhilUP Oups my bad but your still second
4:30 “Probably what we should do”
Like you got a choice lol 😭💀
28:23 What??? What is it with Datruth saying that EZA androids, LB vegito, and this trio is the top number 5 6 and 7 units in the game???
Where is:
-Godku
-Majunior
-Z duo
-Blue duo
-SSj4 goku
- Vegeta and trunks
- WT goku
- PHY ssj3 rose
- Dark masked king
- Teq fusion zamasu
- 5th year anniversay EZA fusions
- Sword of hope trunks
- Carnival agl goku
- birdku
- 7th anniversary units
A lot of these units are arguably easily better than this SSJ trio yet you put them above all of them with no justification lol
Of all the units you listed whining about top 7 units in the game and you list birdku? That fucker is outdated as hell. You could make a case for Majunior and 23rd wt goku but that's about it. V/T not good enough, Same with Godku, Z duo, Blue duo, Ssj4 with this current content can struggle, Rose and Masked king aren't doing what the top units are doing, Zamasu doesn't have enough around him, The blue fusions are vulnerable to aoes, SoH trunks is just G/V/T but worse, Kai Goku is fine but he's not anything special, My thoughs on birdku are at the start and the 7th anni units are just too old to be competing by this point.
This list is comical.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 All of them can is many situations easily look better than this unit, thats why i picked them
Birdku is better defensively, stacking, better for omega, and has a revive and can go slot 1.
V/T not good enough? They are way better defensively, their active skill utility is incredible, and can go slot 1
Godku not good enough? Godku is the best tur he sh*t on most of the game, Godku is literally a unit that is better defensively than all the other TURs and then has a slappen on 60% chance to dodge on top of it LOL
Z duos standby being able to slot 1 tank everything and then dish out a nuclear bomb when you need is arguably more useful than the ssj trios slot 2 role with still just goodish defense nothing incredible
Blue duo is can go slot 1, and is one of the best slot 1 units in the game, then VB is utterly broken,
SSJ4 goku literally has more defense and dmg reduction, as well as his UUB form is insane utility wise and ssj4 full power stomps on the ssj trio
Fusion zamasu sh*ts on the ssj trio the first couple of turns, and then can get his domain and is invunrable to damage now
The blue fusions arent that vunrable to Aoes, only the the fusion zamasu fight
SOH is them but worse? SOH has no restrictions, unlike them, stacks up to have more defense than them by their second turn, does still do a crap ton of damage also, and his standby is one of the most powerful things in the game, he can many times look way better than the ssj trio
Kai goku is better defensively, can go slot 1, has the ki nullifcation, and the heal too
7th year gogeta has 1million defense with 21% dmg reduction and 50% to nullify supers, i think when you compare that to the ssj trio who has 1million defense 30% damage reduction and no nullification, Gogeta ends up being better defensively, as well as they are better defensively turn 1 too
The ssj trio is nothing special other than damage, they are a slot 2 unit making them already worse than a lot of the slot 1 units i mentioned, they don't even have that insane defense, and after turn 6 they become really mid. They really arent that special and in no way a definitive top 5 much less 10
@@thevipez8740 Birdku isn't a slot 1 unit anymore, as shown in this video, Fusion zamasu did 100k on aoe to a rainbowed birdku, If he gets superered in slot one he's taking a fuck load of damage, he isn't good enough defensviely anymore and He's not runnable on the best teams in the game due to a better revive being available so Birdku just doesn't cut it anymore
V/T Takes a fuck load of damage from the dismal future red zone showing their primary weakeness, they're a slot 1 unit who's vulnerable early which is why their design isn't all it was ever hyped up to be.
Godku just does less than the other big tur's Worse defensively and worse offensivly than Both LB Vegito and 23rd wt goku, And has less utility and damage than Majunior, there's no place that he excells that the others don't either,
You complain that G/V/T is a slot two unit then defend the z duo for their standby when they're more vulnerable than G/V/T turn 1 where slot 2 units can struggle primarily due to aoes? Sure bud.
Blue duo are slot one viable and that's literally it, If VB was guaranteed to come out then we could talk but if you get into the spot where their intro runs out and you're not vegito they're just worthless.
SSj4 Goku can struggle the same way that V/T can, If the boss hits too hard too fast then he can't get to uub which means no Full Power while he also takes a bunch of damage.
Fusion Zamasu as an individual unit is great but he has no team to run, His team is barely held together by duct tape and good luck if you as a player are missing even a single option for the barely put together team to begin with.
The blue fusions were vulnerable to syn's aoes and they're vulnerable to Omega's too, they don't get dodge until they attack which means they just take a fuck load of free damage from aoes no matter what turn you're on.
SoH trunks is like this unit where neither are exceptional defensively but they both dish out a fuck load of damage and that's their primary role except SoH is worse at it by dealing less damage. By the turn you're getting to Trunks' standby you're looking to end fusions zamasu's fight and You're trying to get through Omega just a few turns later so you're not even getting that much time in the standby
Kai Goku does the same thing that V/T does Dies if the boss hits too hard too fast and his heal is just alright.
You can't look at Phy 7th year Gogeta's peak turn as an example of why he's better, you'd be better off looking at averages where he's just worse in every metric. Does less damage, Worse defensively, Worse general link set, Worse leader skill, Worse SA effect. If we look at peak turns to compare what about G/V/T 1 turning bosses casually with just a little bit of set up? Who cares if you've got a million defense when you can just kill the boss instead.
Sure they're nothing special except for damage which they far and away outperform every other unit by a mile. They're by far the most damaging unit in the game and it's not even close.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 Birdku is a slot 1 unit in the omega fight, that was my point. There is no better revive on movie heroes, super saiyans, goku family, earth bred fighters arguably, so what are you talking about?
Vegeta and trunks takes a lot of damage? What are you talking about? Are you talking about a turn 1 slot 1 super, because in that case every unit takes a lot of damage from that, Bulma, future gohan, gt duo dies, this ssj trio gets one shot, etc. Vegeta and trunks on their first turn can go slot 1 as well as on the second turn they can easily go slot 1 with 700k start of turn defense and guard. as well as they dont need to be in slot 1 anyways, they can be in slot 3 and they would still be better defensively than this ssj trio
"Godku just does less than the other big tur's Worse defensively "
Thank you for telling me that you dont play the game ^^
Godku turn 1 has 500k defense and guard with 60% chance to dodge, WT goku is even comparable? Majunior is even comparable? And godku just gets stronger as the fight goes on too LOL Put majunior in slot 1 and lets see how he does LOL, also 300k from aoe normals LOL also wt goku is good offensively? After he revives sure, but pre revive he is literally doing like 3mil attack stats and sh*t lol
Z duo is trash against AOEs but so is this ssj trio that takes 150k from fusion zamasus aoe, the z duo has type advantage so they actually take less. As well as their standby gives a lot more to the team than the slot 2 role of the ssj trio lol
Vegito blue is rare? It literally is guranteed turn 7 so guranteed in the omega fight, or turn 5 under 70% which isnt uncommon at all.
Also you seem to not get the point of my comment at all, as you are rambeling about things that have nothing to do with what we are talking about. My point was not arguing that all these units are by far better than the ssj trio, it was that the ssj trio is in no way definitively better than all these units as all these units can look a lot better than the ssj trio in many different scenarios, so you pointing out worst case scenarios for units has literally nothing to do with what we are talking about
If the ssj trio is going to be definitively bettter than ALL of these units they need to be a slot 1 unit, which they are not, they NEED other units to do that role for them as they get destroyed in slot 1 as well as they. You can in no way call this unit definitively better than ALL of these units when the ssj trio is worse in many ways and looks worse in many scenarios
@@thevipez8740 While the ssj Trio CAN look worse than some of these units they are more often going to look miles better because of how much damage they just shit out for free with no issues.
Godku is worse both offensively and deffensively than LB Vegito and 23rd wt goku Goku even without his revive has Super effective so he's going to deal more effective damage a lot of the time and then he leaps lightyears ahead in both categories once revive happens, Majunior is lightyears ahead offensively and then has the giant form for utility over Godku, This is not to say that Godku is bad by any means, It's just that the other top tur's have spots where they beat him out while Godku tries to do a little bit of everything so he ends up falling behind in other spots.
The Z duo are vulnerable for the first few turns that is their primary problem that everyone complains about, They're not just vulnerable to aoes, they can't take the super either, Ssj trio is better at taking the super and better at taking the aoes.
I specifically mentioned one of the most relevant parts of the game right now with dismal future redzone highlighting Vegeta and Trunks main weakness is that they're not all that great defensively for the first few turns, They are garbage against Red Zone Goku Black and First Form Cell for example.
Some of these units in the right situations can for sure look better but that's the problem, they have to be in the right situation, We compare units between eachother and if a unit looks better 15/20 times then that unit is just a better unit, Because consistency is the single most important part of this game.
If every good unit was a slot 1 unit they'd all get in eachother's way, Look at Vegeta and Trunks and Fpssj4 Goku, They're restricted to slot one and thus get in the way of one another, Having good slot one units and also good slot 2 units is necessary for your team to excel, if you have all Gamma 1's for example then your team will suffer because you can't get every one of them the hits they need and also you won't do enough damage to win the fight before you eventually just die, If your team is all gamma 2's then you'd likely die before turn 2. If you have Both Gamma 1 and Gamma 2 then you're going to be more successful 100% of the time.
One of the biggest problems with having such a high damage character on the team is the other characters like god Goku do not get their stacks in and get rolled and smoked in later phases
That’s why they have extra abilities. God goku specifically had guard and dodge (provided you could get it). Id say it’s a fair trade off as of right now.
@@carlos41519 gonna be pretty easy when both change type orbs, 1 wants the orbs for damage and the other needs them to survive.
God goku isn't really a def stats character anyways. Its either u get the orbs guard or dodge or hes not performing
@@Miles_Moraless sure a unit with stacking, guard and dodge isn't a defensively oriented unit
@@God_of_Bacon Not what he said.
Imagine an update where Hidden Potential was always a Super with 50% chance its an 18 Ki Super willing its on an LR…
I am back again to watch another Dokkan battle video.
10:25 NICE DODGE BUILD LMAOOOOOOO
in all seriousness that was just unlucky
Full dodge built, eh
1 thing I don't understand iss the carnival LR's still on the banner even if they're not featured like yellow coin or is it only featured
Got then back to back my first two summons with revival vegeta
A hidden option that people wouldn't consider bringing is Heart Virus Goku.
Defense is wayyyy too low to use. 60% dr and type advantage is great but 250k def isnt
Leader-friend 1st rotations are INFURIATING
I decided to calculate the damage numbers for these boys compared to the rest of the team, just to really show their impact with real data:
Phy God Goku - 16,050,307
Str Future Goathan - 11,341,140
Teq Carnival Birdku - 8,163,054
and finally...
Int Carnival Trio (friend) - 25,257,694 (including active skill)
Int Carnival Trio (Truth's) - *62,740,588* (including active skill)
see you all in 2 months when bosses will have 200,000,000 hp
Uh oh, don't curse us with that...
All that’s what’s needed to handle theses units dmg
Dokkan devs please update the friends system 😭 even if it's specifically for truths account let him use his unit as both leaders so we never have to ever hear him complain about the friend unit not having dodge, Pleaseeeeee
Ngl phy god goku has not been dodging well for me lately like he’s really been lacking
Truth has so much skill issue. I no itemd this event with ssj trio lead like 5 times
Seeing truth at 90 stones is extremely cursed
10:31What is this reaction 🤣
Did my man skip half the video? 💀 the video isn't even 10 minutes old.
@@luislazotheoof I'm just realizing that i use the 10 seconds skip a little too much....
@@luislazotheoof lil bro a skipper 💀
My boy you gotta switch PHY Super Magneto to a full dodge build. Its imperative to his survival if youre going to run that unit.
BTW its crazy how often that friend unit was doing hidden potential additional normals with their 25 AA build. If I sunk that much into AA itd be driving me crazy seeing all those 50% chances going down the drain lol. There's a point with AA when they are doing all those AAs from passive that you don't need to hammer that nail so hard sinking all those points into AA. He could have given a few to dodge (or even crit) and it'd have rounded out the unit a lot better imo.
Literally what I did… use him only for defense dodge is the way for magnetto
Fire pfp man💪
I was not expecting super magneto.. the magnet of super attacks
2:12 Forgot vegito gives Def on super. Could’ve saved you some HP.
im boutta put a ssj goku, vegeta and trunks into the friend system that has no dodge
Truth stop begging people to give their units dodge let ppl play the game they wanna play it im not giving my units dodge cope
Im going to touch you truth
Is LR Agl Base Goku on SSJ if not biggest shaft on a unit
11:05 I'll let Truth on this one. Vegito does literally no damage rn and his only problem is supers.
So dodge is a viable build for him
Yeah, I mean what other build would possibly be useful on him
@@DCDokkan His super attack effect adds to characters SA effect
@@crowofjudgement4718 He’s a floater character, so that ability is kinda useless.
I like this unit but Dokkan has to stop with the characters that get good only post super. If you get both leaders on rotation you might as well forfeit.
Who here knows how revive mechanics actually work? I’m new
If you're under 59% at the start of turn and TEQ Goku's on the rotation you revive with 59% HP if any character dies on that turn. You can only revive once per run.
I found it funny how everyone talks bad about the good units like god goku and these guys i never understood why people talk bad about good units just let them cook
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Cool unit but I'm sleeping until they release a slot 1 unit like cmon what is this is the whole game supposed to be 'this unit can tank post super' or sometimes 'this unit can tank (normals) post super' it's so dumb. Like what do we have WT Goku and SSJ4 Goku who can actually tank pre-super in slot 1 so the rest of the units in the game we have to coin flip a dodge? They gotta put out units that can tank like come on...
the friend would of lived if he didnt get floated btw
the three turn stack went away
Remember guys, this unit is better then fusion zamasu. They only take 750k from a super while doing similar damage 😬
Birdku still showing why he is the goat❗️❗️❗️
@PhilLEFTnah he's better than mid imo. Mid means average, means you're not providing anything special to the team. But birdku has the revive and the attack break, so he's a bit better than mid I think.
@@sonodv1709ppl say mid so much they done forgot what it is
By dying
@@sonodv1709 Yeah he has a revive and then he still gets slaughtered the next turn he's around by the scary bosses. His defense isn't good enough and that's all he relied on anyway. At 55% which a lot of people will have him out his defense isn't even enough to deal with int fusion zamasu comfortably. Truth's rainbowed ll10 goku took 100k from the aoe with his guard...
@@haydenmcqueen2503 yeah he took 100k from the aoe but the run would've literally been impossible without him.
I also no itemed fusion zamasu with this team and Birdku hard carried, he revived turn 2 then turn 4 he attack broke zamasu's super. I have him 69% so he can't really take hits but he didn't need to, I just needed the reset with the revive and he provided that. He's not top 10 or even top 25 but he has stuff and I think that he's above average.
i think the aoe works like a boss super attack with a countdown. So when you revive it goes to the last slot
are these guys even worth it?
This video is the definition of why dodge rules over the other two
Another dodge W, ya love to see it
They only take 100k per aoe with no support at all? Yeah they’re gonna cook this fight
Super vegito gives defensive support on super no?
About them AoEing for your convenience. Probably because right before the turn starts out, the computer is picking its positions to hurt you, and you have no health, so it doesn't see you as a threat on this turn. Out-of-turn manual interventions like support items and revival are accounted for in their planning and the computer knows when you're out of options, but since they can't really tell whenever you'll use an item, you won't see them go crazy on trying to kill you until you've used out those options. All the enemy can do is work with what it already knows, and set you up to die in its best ability now or later.
This is my main issue with the new goku vegeta trunks. Too reliant on RNG for dodging and getting super attacks and orb changing
The problem with this unit, to me, is that I have a new account (kinda new to the game), and it feels like what they do is put out insane dmg but thats it, not enough damage reduction or other support skills. Meaning, it looks like you really need to have a good team with them in order to survive. And with a new account I just dont have the characters to create said team. Also, if is about dmg Im guessing having them at 55% is not really gonna cut it. Sadly I think Im gonna have to skip them :/
Here's what you do
Save and buy them later
Then at that point you should have a team that works with them
@@existentguy8373 yes, thats what Im going to do actually. If the character seems still good down the line I'll get it later
They do well in defense tho? They still tank well pre spirit bomb but then get to 1M defense after the spirit bomb combined with 30% DR
Please next time us Power of Wishes team with Str Goku and Vegeta as a Lead. That team is the best for them to set them up and revive
when cell max fr
Broly is more toxic than zamasu, eh
11:20 I swear I have the same curse but only for this fight. I had the friend leader and my leader in the same rotation for 10 times in a row and it's so frustrating cause it's game ending.
when you revive, the attacks he was gonna do carry on the next turn
This video proves future gohan being the best LR in the game 🤭😤
Piccolo shts on him
@@ultraboost489no way piccolo isn’t on the same tier as gohan
@@noone-qt6lt u right orange piccolo is a tier above gohan
@@ultraboost489 Not at all
@@HIHi-os1lr dude gohan makes the game extremely easy piccolo has only one good thing yes piccolo makes content from red zone red ribbon easier and older content but new content he dies easily
Truth of course being the only person to brag about a dodge that didnt matter like always
Nah, I’d win
I think it’s time to reevaluate super vegito in the rankings, one of the few tur eza that doesn’t die to aoe pre super and only dies to supers (like 99% of the game)
One time I went the entire zamasu without getting hit with an aoe💀
Now that’s some shit💀
I'm really sorry that they're out now, I'm forced to skip them as they're such a fun unit
they are gonna age pretty quick honestly, fun unit but their kit is built where they will get passed pretty fast
@@alolandonaldtrump8368 When they are the best damage dealer in the game?I don't think so and the defense is not that bad
@@b-trunksed5902 offense doesn’t mean shit in difficult content. Their dmg reduction isn’t nearly high enough to really be able to contend with future difficult content that is only getting harder. They are good now, 6 month from now they likely wont be.
This unit can get up to 800k defense on their active skill turn with 30% DR. Only aoe bosses can neutralize them early. And lets be honest, will Omatsu make more AOE bosses for the newer hard events in the 9th year anniversary?
@@alolandonaldtrump8368 Offense doesn't mean anything huh?So that mean The GT duo is completely useless in the zamasu event when he can literally one turn the second phase by himself,same for Mirai gohan on active skill turn,for trunks on standby skill turn,or the Agl vegito on active skill turn or the Tec one?
they cooked
Yeah, int characters nowadays are giga-buffed since people are FORCED and force-fed dodge on the character. I give atleast 3 dodge to every character, some units I will give more dodge than others, but if their sa effect is really strong, or if both the SA and passive benefit enough from it, I will prio add. over dodge. If I had lb ss4 vegito rainbowed, he would probably have like 15-ish dodge and additional(since that busted unit would definitely get my strongest equips like aa/dodge)
I have had 6 instances of them shooting out 1 24 ki super and following up with 3 normals since LAST NIGHT, NOT a fan of this design
DaTrhuth use the most "second position" character in the most deadly event for "second position" character 💀
I'd say, a non Dokkanfest unit, with one banner per year, with somewhat low stats can perform better overall in this fight compared to the new LR makes me think that LB SSJ4 Vegito will age VERY WELL.
im not the biggest fan of this unit, i hate how their DR is only for the first 5 turns and i think that theyd be a lot better if it was for more then 5 turns. other then imo not being omg defensive and meant for slot 2, there good damage wise but i feel like theyll age out in due time
Offensive units always age out relatively quickly, unfortunately.
yea unless your ssbk since all we need is a good top celebration and he'll be one of the best eza's and insanely busted again IF we ever get a good TOP celebration and it has to be quite soon or else he'll age out @@BasedCritEnjoyer
@kiranikib42 TOP 17&18 release should've given him then help he needs, it's too bad they're pretty mid/bad 🫤
if they changed it to a goku on the team theyd be so much better but nooooo dokkan had to dokkan a unit and make sure that they are mid on release @@BasedCritEnjoyer
@kiranikib42 Dokkan doing what it does best, making mid filler dokkanfests.
Day 34 asking for Phy Xeno Trunks 200% showcase
???? Did he not upload that?
@@3einEye nope no one has besides the Masked Ningen I dont think
im ngl godku has been falling off for me ngl hes on fraud watch idc
Only one on fraud watch here is you not god goku LMAO
Nah bro
@PhilUP 🤖🤖🤖
@Full-Dodge 🤓🤓🤓
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