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Ever since flamu stopped reviewing ships and started making ragebait rants I’ve needed a new channel for ship reviews and I’m loving the content so far!!
so true
Flamuu’s actually a pretty chill guy on stream and his streams are very enjoyable,people call him toxic because he doesn’t stand for anyone’s bullshit and hates incompetence.He’s said himself that he’s more of a twitch channel than youtube channel thats why he doesn’t review ships much anymore.He cares about his community(and takes measures to inform and help those who ask) so i would really appreciate if we could all stop calling him toxic and ragebait as it doesn’t really prove anything and just causes more negativity in the community,I get if you don’t like flamuu,but that doesn’t mean you have to insult him.Finally all and all i dont think people should be going to other content creators channels to spout hate about another content creator,just appreciate and talk about the content creator you enjoy/watch.thank you
@@botasterisk5163 People always try find an excuse to compare things to show what i will never know (maybe proving they're more superior intellectual person than anyone else).
Got it 2 days ago. Having the heal (yes, it’s not a mino heal) makes you stay in games where you should’ve been dead. Having both DM and Salem, I think I have more fun with DM in randoms hunting dds and with Salem, having it for 2 days, I have nearly 100k xp just playing ranked. Yes, you don’t tank those high caliber bbs too much, but it’s super fun anyways. Getting close and nuking a Petro or anything with lower dpm is just amazing.
It's the only ship I'm afraid of in the Petro. I can win the fight, but it will all but exhaust me to do it.
@@vaughnblaylock6069 AP to the turrets makes it real hard for that Petro to shoot back if you are within 6-7km of him
Me and my friend managed to put 4 citadel hit and a few pens and overpens and it's still alive...
@@vaughnblaylock6069 Burn the petro first then when he sits to tank ap bomb his turrets 😃
@@vaughnblaylock6069 napolit with 11km+ SAP secondaries and smokes is scarier
Thanks for starting this series! A bit of feedback with putting charts on the screen - it might be a little easier to digest if you limited the charts to a 'next nearest 2' style. Have the review ship in the middle, between better 2 above and worse 2 below. eg a ship rank 7th in a given metric:
...
5th: NEXT NEXT BETTER SHIP [bar graph]
6th: NEXT BETTER SHIP [bar graph]
7th: REVIEW SHIP [highlighted bar graph]
8th: NEXT WORSE SHIP[ bar graph]
9th: NEXT NEXT WORSE SHIP [bar graph]
...
or alternatively if it's important to give an indication of where it sits within the scale as a whole, perhaps replacing the first and last in the comparison to being the global best and worst. Same example but in this style would look like:
1st: BEST SHIP [bar graph]
...
6th: NEXT BETTER SHIP [bar graph]
7th: REVIEW SHIP [highlighted bar graph]
8th NEXT WORSE SHIP [ bar graph]
...
(worst #): WORST SHIP [bar graph]
Might help cut down on the amount of displayed information, whilst still providing a viewer enough information to give a decent comparison to the field (it's ranking, the raw figures and a comparison to it's closest rivals or best/worst in class). Hope it makes sense!
Or you could just pause and read not that hard to understand I could read all he was after in the time he had it on screen and I’m a slow reader!
I too have Salem. Great ship. Something I didn't hear you mention is the insane shell type switch speed (with John Doe admittedly). Less than 1 sec (config below). And yes. The radar is a joke. But, the Hydro with Mod 1 (17k coal) puts your duration out at 132 sec. Which is 2 min 12 sec. Pretty helpful with annoying torps around. Anyway, I am running John doe: GTG, GF, CE, AR, HAS, SI, TGG, and OUTN. As for equip: DC mod1 (coal), Hydro mod1(coal), Aim sys mod1, Propul mod 1, Conceal mod1 and Main batt3. I will most likely get DM. I am through the Buff. But have been working RB. Something to remember about Salem vs DM, since it is coal, it comes with perm camo and thus the economic percs. As well as sharing captains with other premiums. Maybe a small thing, but a heavy Coal/Priem focus leads to long term benefits. Currently, I have 1.5 bill cred. Mainly due to Coal etc ships. I don't buy ships either. Just food for thought.
That Heal is a blessing in disguise when having a DPM fight with other Crusiers, Just pop one when the fight starts and you would minimize dmg taken by a huge factor, i play salem in a brawl this way and this method have saved me almost everytime !!!
My favorite secret to the Salem brawl is a ramming flag plus the heal being able to heal 100% of ramming damage. Allows you to get away with some stupid stuff.
Nicely done with putting important info in text on screen, that way you don't get annoyed and us viewers still get the info. Much appreciated!
Salem Vs DM, it comes down to your play style. If you really like to sit behind the islands and hide all game, get the DM. If you like to push up when the time is right and smash some ships, get the Salem. It allows you to be more aggressive.
I totally agree 💯 I have both ranked out with avg 142k dmg with Salem in ranked, DM a better ship for randoms.
what is worth to buy Salem or yoshino?
@@damianmirek7541 If you like to battle up close and work the islands, salem, long range spammer thatvfoes lots of damage but never contritubes to wins, yoshino. I do have both. I like bith. Yoshino better for randoms, salem btter for ranked
Clanmate of mine has both DM and Salem and he says the same thing about the heal: it's not as impressive as it looks, and that makes the DM the better ship. It has more utility.
Got the Salem when she came out and was the only coal ship, so it was not even really a decision between ships to get her.
I don't have DM, but i think the heal is really nice in ranked, where 1v1 against cruisers happen more often and the distances are low enough to make use of that radar.
Overall I'm disappointed in every game i play, about how useless the heal is in most cases and yet everyone still says it's the British cruiser super heal on every reddit "what coal ship should I get?' post.
@@anidiot2818 Well the heal is great... if you wanna heal fire damage. I don't know the exact difference between this and for example the Mino heal, but Mino does heal a fair amount of AP dmg.
I play DM a fair bit, and I've wondered how much more survivability Salem really has, but I've never wanted to risk all that coal just to find out she wasn't worth it. 😄
I'm so glad you posted this as I have been on the fence about getting the Salem, but I think I will now. Keep the great content coming !!!!
Great review PQ! Salem was my first coal ship I bought when the armory came into the game. The super heal has bailed me out several times 🤣
This thing is fantastic. One of my first games was playing her in ranked. A Stalingrad and a Moskva decided to push into a cap that i was parked close to, showing me broadside. I then deleted both of them, with something like 15 + citadels. I unfortunately died quite quickly too, but within 3 or 4 Minutes or so i did 120k damage. That was the moment i was absolutely sold on this ship :D
The Salem was my first Coal ship. I enjoy playing it but I haven't figured out the angling nuances.... I get wiped usually. Doesn't stop me from playing it, though.... I have fun with it. Every once in a while I have a surprising game... that's what keeps me coming back to it
love it, this and the napoli are teaching me cruisers
Thanks for the video, really like this format. Would be nice if in each review you could also share your preferred Captain build/equipment.
I've only had the ship a couple days now and so far only been able to play with Rando's and have been left defending against multiple ships. But Salem holds her own. Especially when hugging an island. Such a fun ship. And if you have a team that will back you up it will cause so many openings and push opportunities.
Keep up the great work and awesome vids!! 🤘🏻
Des Moines was my first tier 10 ship. The guns are everything and more. Nothing better than reload mod and half your health gone to start truly farming some DPM
Thank you for your videos, always great! One of few creators i trust lately. Keep up the good work!
1:21 looked at the penetration for Stalin and Petro, started laughing, then started crying. They perform better than many BB-calibre guns.
I love the Graphs in the video!!! Great job to accentuate your points! I'm taking screen shots for future reference!
This is a great ship review! Lots of info and charts. I’m sure it’s a lot of work but I really appreciate the effort! Super awesome video!
Thanks for the review I was waiting for Salem review I might get the ship now that I have been gathering the coal for months
Have the Salem, and definately recommend it, but the Forrest Sherman is coming out soon, and migth be worth waiting for!😊
Moskva might be better if you already have Des mo, if you prefer more angling, crossfires and a bit of a longer ranged play style. If you like freisland you may also enjoy the forest Sherman which is coming out soon. It looks to be similar but with sap instead of AP.
I looove these shorter videos. Great work, and can't wait to get to see the full gameplay!
Thank you for the very detailed review. Two thumbs up.
Movies which started my naval enthusiasm at young age were the Final Countdown and the Battle of the River Plate, where the Salem played the Admiral Graf Spee.
So i HAD to get this ship.
Salem is the most fun cruiser for me ever since it's out. She even made me appear on Jingles.
Salem's different enough from legendary mod Des Moines to be worth it IMO. You trade the wiggle for the heal. I still prefer Des Moines to the utility it brings (hydro + radar) and it's ability to move around islands easier.
I love this ship, I play the game for fun and this is one of the most fun ships that I have played. Helped tremendously with my Yamamoto grind after I got my Zao. Also, some of my best games I have ever played have been in this ship as well.
Love the video. It would be great, if in future 5-minute reviews you could briefly show your ship and commander builds at the end of the video.
Interesting review, you need to do something about that Giant Wall O'Text (tm) at the 5:53 mark though, maybe with some kind of intro 10-15 seconds beforehand to the effect of 'sidenote GWOT incoming, pause if you want to read' and then leaving it up for 2-3 seconds instead of .5.
Hydro Salem > Radar Salem. As you say, the short range radar fools you into over-committing and getting yourself killed. With the hydro you can safely chase down DDs and delete them in seconds with your monster HE output.
Before Russian 2nd line, Des Moines was my jam. Just got Salem I. December, that heal is a game changer.
I love salem
These graphs are amazing btw
50% less post - battle repair cost camo on Salem makes huge difference between these two, let's not forget that ✌️
Always a great review please keep it up. Very informative.
excellent review! Well, i bought it because I wanted the similar play style as with my DM XD
Can you finish your map review videos? I found them very helpful in increasing my map awareness and my win rate.
Or could you do a series on CB strategies for the different maps?
5:54 AA explanation should be a splash at the beginning of each video
I got Salem as a lucky drop from one of those Gibraltar containers and don't have the DM yet. Now I doubt I have to continue the grind? Yes I'm tanking far more than I'm known to and it often surprises the enemy because they don't change position assuming you die in time but you don't. But hell the radar range and firing range are a handicap. But once I get close enough this thing deals in any way 50k minimum no matter how badly you or your team fcked up. Very enjoyable overall.
Like the short format - more please 🙂
Salem is a good ship because she's basically a Des Moines. However, because she is basically a Des Moines I think you are better off grinding for Des Moines and using the coal you get while grinding for a different ship with a different playstyle. Salem costs 150 days worth of resource containers and daily mission coal, less if you have the clan's upgraded coal port and a coupon. Still takes way longer than grinding the USN cruisers to tier 10.
For me, the reverse reasoning applied. Didn't have the Des Moines yet (still do not) and did have the coal... so I got the Salem.
Its one of the best spend coal (yet).
Gotta love that sweet DPM
another advantage of the Salem over the Des Moines is that the Salem has access to destroyer Damage con, which is a nice advantage in these nose to nose fights trying to knoch each other's guns out. Also the super heal prevents the need for healing flags, since you cant use the full potential of the super heal anyway.
But Legendary mod on the DM makes it way better, being able to dodge fire way better.
Im really digging this video format, u doin great PQ! Can you please do napoli next? I'd love to see that
Players forget, that ship has a 40 sec damage con
Also, shell flight time to 15km is 6.82 not 6.6
I love this ship, one of my highest earners. It does have its drawbacks as you stated however, they are minor compared to its earning potential.
I love the Salem,she's a fun ship!!!! I only wish WG would have put her logo on the sides of the forward superstructure!
Very good detailed videos thank you again.
Salem is definitely one of my favourite ships in the game. Yes, the radar on it isn't the greatest and you don't always get full use out of your heals, but the rate of fire and dpm alone definitely make up for it.
I dunked on a Marceau, Puerto Rico, and Napoli at the same time in my flank and still won. The superheal is a godsend when trying to brawl other ships. DM and Salem can even outgun BBs because of their extreme DPM potential.
I have a new found respect for the American Heavies. Now that I have played them, no way I am engaging in CQC with these guys because I know I can just get dunked on.
4:08 Got both steering gear mods, turns on a dime
I did not like play cruisers all that much (maybe except Myoko and Mino) until I go Salem. Now it’s my favorute ship for ranked (followed by Marceau and radar Mino).
I'll take my DM any day. Got 'em both but really Salem just has a super heal and that's it over DM.
PQ your channel has grown to the point where i feel like the viewers can start hitting you with the same stuff, which we use to annoy the other youtubers with, so have a good old fashioneed "actually Jingles" :3. Here goes: Actually PQ, the review is over 6 minutes long
Salem is a niche ship, it shines when you are getting HE spammed, you literally can absorb the damage and heal at the same time.
I can see Salem will absorb a lot of secondary damage from Schlieffen and might kill schliefen.
Better get Des Moines, better sibling and has access to the best Unique Upgrade
Now that FLAMU almost has given up on reviewing or updating his review, may pq can pick up the slack
Helpful thanks. I'll go for Des Moines in tech tree instead.
Trying to decide between Pommern and Marceau for my coal (very different, I know!).
Pommern 100%
My most played ship, went from meh cruiser player to fairly decent in my time with it. Still play it a ton nowadays even though i am very much a dd main :)
My friend asked me "How to jousting?"
It would make a great video since few explain how properly
i once fought Salem in my Minotaur when bowing in, the salem also did the same, we both tried to destroy each's other guns but i won XD, he broke my no.2 turret and i broke both of his bow guns, after that i just torped him lol
i was hoping to be killed by salem HE but he used AP alot on me, the shells were bouncing from my bow until he decided to break my guns XD
I like Moskva (spending coal) instead of Salem instead Des monie feels better in support and can play in medium ranges
I would've pointed out that Salem cannot have Hydro and Radar equipped. Whereas Des Moines can.
Unless it was somewhere in that wall of text lol
You trade radar range for heal, basically, so if you don't want to grind the US cruiser line, then get Salem
Its a really bad trade. Current meta most of the dmg is come from overmatch so superheal is not that good. The superheal is good if someone try to farm u.
Ok, dumb question here, PQ talks about the HE pen and DPM, but he is shooting AP in almost all of this video... so AP is really the way to go, but you can burn down angled ships with HE correct? I am an old man just trying to play the DM and possibly this ship the best way I can... thanks for any help with this dumb question all...
More reviews like this pls
My question. I will soon have the coal to buy something - Napoli or Salem. I am leaning towards Napoli right now
I'm planning on picking it up for Clan Battles, I just refuse to grind the US Heavy CA line
Will you be going over all coal ships? I will soon have enough to get my first one and I can't really decide...
I got Salem out of crates this Christmas, and I do have to say I prefer DM over it to begin with. DM's far better in terms of utility, and now knowing that the heal isn't even as good as I thought it was (I thought it was similar to the Mino heal, if not the Goliath's) just tanks Salem further in my eyes. Honestly, I think legmod Des Moines is a far better investment than Salem ever is.
I like it and the heal is good but prefer the Des Moines, I really miss the prenerfed Des Moines legendary module - it was awesome!
Oh, what camo is that??
Thx for the vid, great ship.
just picked up Salem....and good lord...i usually am able to hand out a couple cits per match in CoOp, even when playing USS DM...but with Salem im handing them out like Oprah handing out cars....Salem does seem easy to set ablaze though =\
dpm is really good if you can hit without retaliation, but I found that the amount of fires per minutes is rather disappointing
AA text is sad but true...
The best coal ship rigth now!
Change my mind!😊
Marceau … gg
The petro can kill DES M guns 12km. I do not think you can have any guns operational against petro.
i love dm so i thought the salem would be also fun but it lacks in to many parts and the heal isnt really as useful as in mino.
dm with 10km radar and hydro while salem 8,5km radar and no hydro makes salem a portqueen for me, i prefer and enjoy dm like ten times more .
Forget about the radar and go hydro IMO, at least that's how I play my Salem. You won't miss the radar that much and still dumpster dd's when they get spot.
Hey, could you do this type of video for the Yoshino?
I have the coal to buy a new ship and I want to make use of my coupon. Salem and Napoli appeal to me most. Are either worth it or should I just keep saving/ get a different ship?
Hard to say as it all depends on your playstyle. I have both and have the D.M. I don't find the Napoli that exciting and I like the Salem but because I have the Des Moines, I could live without it. I don't have it but hear (from my clan mates) the Carnot is a pretty good cruiser with strong AP. All of this is very subjective as one person will tell you one thing and another something else. I really wish Wargaming allowed us to "rent" a ship for a day...or even a couple battles to see if we like it. You may want to wait to see what other coal ships they bring in this year. Best bet is to watch video's on the ships your interested in...however if you watch Potato Quality (or guys like him), they all look OP....LOL. Good luck on your decision.
Get the Napoli. Thats an unique ship compared to Salem. Which a DM clone with superheal and nerfed radar.
I want to see Paolo Emilio review,please
I'm gonna give a bad critic of it, but while the format is perfect and the so are the graphs to explain the ships, the ships covered right now are ships we know (Salem, Marceau) of their capabilities.
Also another argument that could be made for people who want to buy it is well, she still exist up to this day (in pretty terrible shape, that I do admit, but still)
What? Your comment does not make any sense... Any new players here that does not know what a marceu or Salem is? Yeah, stop being a prik
How do I get this cool looking premium Camo? Mine on the DM and Salem looks different.
Hello, how do Salem and Tulsa compare? Also don´t have the des Moines yet.
THX
Every Salem player I've run into in Ranked has been the biggest liability to any team lol
Do i need Salem if i already have Marceu? Salem have more HP + Healing, but no torpedos.
Could you add some non premium ship reviews as well?
Its my favourit ship
cvs are needed
How does she (and Des Moines) compare to Tulsa?
Got the Alaska time ago and did not want to skill the Buffaloo, so Salem was a shortcut to those guns.
please do smolensk!
I like her
So if I have the Des Moines, I don't need to get the Salem, right?
i got the DM , iam set i guess
So what to get? Salem or Moskva or the new one...Brisbane?
bris is a totally different playstyle then Salem or Mosk.
mosk and Salem are DPM alone ships
Bris you get 34244 torps to drop each side as well
And legendary mod on DM ? not mentioned. Like compare to DM, but not mention it ... Radar diff is so big ...
here aftrr legends patchnotes
yashino next pls
I have the Worcester and I got Salem so I wouldn't have to grind DM