10 Signs of a BAD Chinese Tutor
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Heya, Rita aka Fàn Lǎoshī is here! Time to talk about this job - teaching Mandarin Chinese as a second language (not as a native language!) and what makes a better one.
The value for you as a Mandarin learner to know what may make a bad Mandarin tutor/teacher, and a bad teacher in general, is to save your own time, energy, and avoid forming bad habits that can affect your future learning! Language learning is a time-consuming process, so we definitely want to do it smart and right!
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Having studied a few languages and being a language teacher myself (French), I think one of the best way to engage the learner and to make them profress is to ask them questions about themself (their experience, their life, their opinions, etc) and encourage them to challenge themself for the answers (while helping them if they struggle). It’s way more fun than reading a boring dialogue between 2 characters in a textbook, and it is more useful to the students as it is directly connected to their life.
My current Mandarin class is all in Chinese and the teacher does this a lot. There’s students from other countries and then our common language is Mamdarin. It’s cool because I get to learn about their lives and differences between our countries. It makes it way less boring than just normal textbook learning and has helped me a lot when learning to actually use grammar. Sometimes I get stuck and panic though. I feel like there’s a buffering sign above my head sometimes lol.
Thank you for pointing those out! As a trained Chinese teacher, I always hear people saying that you know how to teach the Chinese language as long as you are Chinese.😓 It is sad that people always neglect the teaching methodology behind teaching.
As a lifelong language teacher (adult esl) as well as a learner of Chinese, I must say that your assessment of good and bad teaching is spot-on. But I would like to add one more thing which in my experience is essential: a teacher must believe in their students, believe that they can learn and believe that they will learn, and give them the support and encouragement to make it happen. This is how you build a student's confidence and motivation. Many people are anxious and unsure about their ability when they begin the study of a strange new language. I had a few students who were terrified at first. Before any learning can take place you must convince them that they can learn. Then they blossom.
As both a language teacher and learner myself, I couldn't agree more! Yet another aspect of believing that you can learn would be interest in the thing that you are learning. Hence, a good teacher also needs to help provide conditions that can both spark and fuel students interest in the thing that they're learning.
Every time i watch videos of Fan Laoshi, i surprised how deep and clear her understanding about decent teaching methods and how high her professionalism. Thank you very much for such a great video! Especially I really like that you mentioned a problem of necessity to know foreign languages for teacher. The teacher who never experienced to learn another language, how he could understand which problems his student might face with?
As a French teacher in Beijing, I do share your point of view regarding these questionable "Chinese teachers". I studied Chinese at BLCU 速成学院 for 3 years and half and did a two-year master at 北语高翻. Reached HSK6 and has CATTI 二级 level. What I realised during my learning journey is that Chinese teachers tend to limit your learning process to a certain extent. As for professional teachers, the reason is they need to stick to the teaching material content. As for amateur teachers, they don't know what is useful to learn and what is not. A foreigner ends up learning a language that can be understood by the Chinese audience, but definitely lacks authenticity. The second problem encountered with most theses Chinese teachers is the inability to distinguish 语法 and 语感. Ninety-nine percent of the Chinese population don't know anything about 语法, because they never studied it at school, and because the concept of 语法 was originally brought from France by a Chinese scholar in the early 20th century. 语感 is what Chinese people are more familiar with, but unfortunately, 语感 is not taught in textbooks. Worst point is when Chinese teachers invoke 语感 when it is in fact 语法. Thanks to 双减政策, numerous amateur teachers are since forbidden to teach, since they don't have the diploma for that. Rita, your work is insightful, inspiring, and I hope you will continue providing excellent UA-cam content. Hope we will meet one day with Chris in Beijing, my second home. As always, you're always the best Rita !
这是第一次我看过“语感”这个术语
有意思！
It feels like something that needs to be acquired rather than taught, but it's interesting to hear that it can be taught!
Salut, je suis prof de français depuis peu et j'avais déjà Pékin dans mes objectifs avant le Covid. C'est toujours mort pour venir depuis la France ou ça s'améliore ?
@@hakkaa8688 Dans 99% des cas, on te demandera d’être sur place. Il existe toutefois des exceptions. Mais bon, tu devras payer le billet à 5000 euros, payer à tes frais les frais de confinement (14 jours maintenant) en RMB, les frais de logement (car plus presque plus personne ne dort dans les dortoirs), et d’autres petites subtilités. Un autre souci majeur pour toi, et qu’il n’existait pas avant, c’est de justifier obligatoirement de 2 ans d’expérience dans le job concerné (ils regardent tout, et se basent sur tes certificats de travail, qu’il faudra traduire en chinois au passage), et d’un Master en FLE ou sciences humaines en général. Ce n’est pas obligatoire, mais les autorités chinoises préfèrent également que tu parles chinois avec un bon niveau. Les salaires sur place ne sont pas nécessairement mirobolants non plus, car issus des universités (entre 8000 à 18000 RMB avant taxe). Tu comprendras donc que la Chine n’est pas nécessairement la première destination de choix pour un prof fraîchement diplômé, et qui ne parlerait pas chinois. Mais si tu trouves la bonne offre, la bonne université, et que tu peux encaisser tout ce que j’ai dit avant (ça ne changera pas avant quelques années), et bien je te souhaite la bienvenue en Chine.
@@Blessmywill Merci pour ta réponse ! Je parle chinois, j'ai un niveau HSK 4. Mais oui ça m'a l'air de plus en plus compliqué la Chine. C'est dommage, j'avais envie de revenir bosser là bas, moi qui aime cette culture.. Je vais attendre que Taïwan ouvre ses frontières je crois. Et encore avec la guerre qui approche c'est peut-être tout simplement mort pour moi 😢
My first Mandarin class was a weekly class in which each of the 3 students read from a child's textbook. We never conversed with each other and we just kept adding on more and more vocabulary without ever using it. After several months of this, myself and the other students all stopped taking classes as we felt overwhelmed. The next class was through our local university. After the Confucius Institute there was disbanded (taking a great teacher with it), that left one teacher for the whole program. We had 1 hour tutoring sessions each week. The teacher was clearly overwhelmed and was anything but encouraging to us. In fact, after all the students talked with each other and discovered that in, their private tutoring hour, the professor had made each one of us feel stupid and even yelled at one student. After that class, the next class I took was online and just reading vocabulary words and textbook dialogue. However, after all this, I hired a tutoring service based in Shanghai and LOVE how they teach. I have an hour class each week and homework that includes identifying grammar mistakes, finishing sentences, writing free form answers to questions and also freestyle discussion with my tutor. I couldn't be happier!
Not only can students learn so much, but also their teachers! Once again a great video! Thank you
Rita, I'm going to give your course a try. Hopefully the Lifetime membership will still be available.
Another excellent video! Very useful for both Chinese learners and Chinese tutors.👍
10 is definitely one which I personally feel is very important, and actually I even mostly look for teachers who have experience learning another language as an adult. Experience learning English in school is not totally irrelevant but often that involves ~10 years of study at varying levels of effectiveness and isn't really aligned with my Chinese learning goals. One of the best teachers I have met is a Chinese native speaker moved to Vietnam as an adult and spoke better Vietnamese than English (although I can't really verify this because I don't speak Vietnamese haha).
As someone living in China I find it quite sad when other foreigners who are teachers tell me stories about how they tried to learn Chinese and quit because it's too hard. If this is their experience living in China how can they encourage their students to learn English while not even having the language environment readily available to them?
Personally I like teachers with a positive view of language learning who believe that it is possible to learn another language to a high level at any stage in your life.
Thanks for a great video! It would be really helpful if you could share what you think the best Chinese-learning materials are.
Thank you for this video, it made me re-think my teaching process :)
I always have a 1 on 1 20-minute meeting with the new student, where I learn about student's level, ask about the motivation to learn Chinese and the goals.
With a bit more advanced students I would use the HSK4 or HSK5 books, because my students do want to pass the HSK, but I always add more stuff - current news, slang, or some songs or interesting video. If I didn't, it would be boring both for the students and me as well.
For begginers I couldn't find very suitable materials, so my friend and I are now creating our own "textbook" written for Czech native speakers. I would love to hear about your favorite materials!
And the pronunciation course - me being a teacher myself, with a pretty decent pronunciation (told by natives) find it super useful!
Speaking in class: For me the golden rule is: teacher speaks 20 % of the time, student 80 %, with the begginers it's harder, but it's good to keep this "rule" in mind.
And the native speaker thing - unfortunatelly many people think native speaker = good teacher. I saw it in China when any (mainly) white person could be a very well paid English teacher without having a clue about how English works, and then there are many excellent teachers from China, who have all the knowledge, but "don't look good (=foreign enough) at pictures with the kids", so they have shitty pay.
Sorry for the long comment. I love you Rita and that you open important discussions ❤
So, for beginners HSK 1 & 2
I think the 汉语水平series is a great foundation。
Lichao Chinese, Mandarin click, Chinese 4 Us and Zero to hero all have great platforms on UA-cam.
As for books, TEACH YOURSELF CHINESE, Tuttle Publishing's writing books, graded readers and books created for natives are awesome reads.
Everything but your t-shirt. I love it! Every lesson and strategy to get the right tones have changed my life. Keep it up! I'm looking forward to pass the HSK 2 this year!
Would love to hear your recommendations for Chinese learning materials!
Fire content, thanks fan lao shi! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I must ask where you get your Chinese language T-shirts! I love them!
Rita, I love your metaphors when you mentioned about lawyers and doctors. I agree with all of your points you brought up in this video.
My worst teacher printed song lyrics and that was the class material along with the actual song. I left after a few lessons like that and went elsewhere
I'm getting some ok feedback on my Chinese in my current course but it is hard with a range ability. I do like your course and the feedback has been super useful
Sticking to a textbook is important, because there is available material for a review. That being said, only using a textbook is, of course, a sin.
I'm very glad that my teacher is not like Rita pointed out in this video 🌞
In fact, I suppose I'm very lucky to get a decent one. She is so creative! For example, when the COVID started, she brought some printed new words and told us that we'rw going to watch some vlogs on COVID experiences of Chinese UA-camrs. She brings in authentic content while helping us to struggle with the most problematic parts.
What's even more important to me is that she brings in a Chinese native every week to discuss a certain predefined topic, like 租房子，结婚，国粹 etc.
I’ve been lucky to mostly only have pretty great chinese teachers but I did have one who only talked about random stuff. They were all great teachers and were really experienced teachers. I’ve never had a teacher say that’s just the way it is though. Even the teacher who never followed the lesson plan could explain things well when asked. This video made me realize how good they are at their jobs and how hard they worked to become proficient at teaching😅.
The middle of August or earlier , I plan to sign up.
Totally agree with 10. Drop them immediately if your Chinese tutor can't speak any other language.
Definitely want you as my chinese teacher :)
Hi Rita!! Love your channel!! I would like to know if you’re working as a Chinese teacher and if so how could I join your lessons!! Thanks!!!
I am taking a TESOL course right now on Coursera, and the main goal is to train people to become English teachers. Honestly, everything I've learned in that course specialization 1 can be summed up in this video.
The only difference is that the course is about training English-language instructors, not Chinese-language instructors.
But the concept is the same.
The goal of modern language teachers nowadays is to get students to become more communicative in the language, using the language efficiently and effectively in this globalised community.
I am going to use my TESOL credentials to teach online first, then pursue a graduate certificate at a local university, so then I can legitimately teach English here in the US in a regular classroom.
I wonder how would a person receive teacher training for Chinese language instruction.
I really want to take learning mandarin serious, so any resources you suggest would be appreciated.
omg I NEED THAT TEE SHIRT !!!! WHERE CAN I BUY THAT TEE SHIRT
I'm a 53 year-old Indonesia.
I understand 6 foreign languages : English, German, French, Arabic, Russian, and Mandarin with different levels of abilities.
I speak German pretty well, and been to Munich to learn German.
It was long time ago that I reached B2 level, nearly C1.
But it seems that my German deteriorates.
I also learned French and Russian, but I don't speak those languages very well like my German, and of course, my fluent English.
I started to learn Mandarin 2017 until a few time ago.
I believe my Mandarin reached A2 or B1 level, because I got Hsk-3 in October 2019.
The problem is maintaining the ability.
Once you get the B level, you start to be fed up with the language you have learned, unless you have a very high motivation and specific purpose to learn the language.
And after that the next question is whether you can maintain the level that has been attained.
I reached B2 or even almost C1 in German long time ago, but now it seems that I can only answer relatively correct the B1 level.
My German deteriorates.
My Mandarin flats.
now I try to listen to Chinese-speaking channels in YT, either from China, or from Taiwan.
Language is a matter of habits and habitation....
I would add one more point, that is setting realistic expectations. Chinese is not 'easy' and requires a serious time investment to get good at. Being able to keep students motivated (especially at the intermediate stage) when they feel like they are not progressing as quickly as they expected can be a serious issue. This is probably one of the biggest reasons why many students I studied with have given up on the language. It can also be motivating to know the limits of your language ability: I felt encouraged when I realized that native speakers also struggle to understand the local inhabitants speaking their heavily accented 普通话 (e.g. 川普), as I realized it's not simply a problem of my listening comprehension. Similarly, it's fine if I can't understand anything if I'm unfamiliar with a topic. I simply haven't studied the relevant vocabulary yet because I never encounter this topic.
我还要加出一项：管理学生对语言的期待和目标。说实话中文并不是个随便学好的语言。反而不管你是不是天才，中文需要许多的时间，耐心和努力。鼓励学生克服很久没进步的那个感觉确实很重要。这特别是在中级遇到的个困难。这真是在我周围放弃学中文的主要原因之一。并且我认为理解自我语言的缺点也能鼓励学生。比如说，我发现来自中国的外地人也平常听不懂当地人说普通话的口音（比如：川普) 时，这也鼓励了我一些。当时我才发现，不只是我听力的问题。同时学生完全听不懂不熟悉的一段话题也是理所当然的，ta就没学到相关的词汇。
范老师是一个多才多艺的人。
I started to learn Mandarin in an online course from a famous Chinese Institute. The last semester was so frustrating 😣 15 people in the group (a lot) and one who monopolized the exercises. We couldn't really practice and the teacher brought many additional content. She rushed and didn't really had time to really understand things before going to the next lesson. After that, I decided not to enroll for the next level, as it seems to be teacher's standard there, and look for a private teacher as soon as I find someone good and affordable.
Your shirt so cool , where I can buy that
Rita, can you review JJsays' Mandarin?
I am currently self studying with the Boya Chinese textbook (developed by 北京大学). I want to find a teacher to help with proper pronunciation. I have spoken to one Chinese guy and and he helped to correct my introduction, which the textbook taught. So some of the stuff may be a little outdated…
I would change the title of this to "Does your Chinese teacher suck? Here's how to tell!"
It doesn't presume the answer. It does challenge the viewer. It also empowers the viewer!
I know you don't mean your title as presumptive or disrespectful. I think you're focus is on how and why teachers / tutors suck as opposed to how to write good copy.
哇塞！！ 理他老师，你的英语很棒！学会了几年？
范老师，你好。我是一个汉语的意大利学生。你有没有一个 j q sh ch 发音的视频?谢谢
My chinese teacher yells at everyone in the classroom
That's very unfortunate...
你有一种口语的私人课吗。我的意思是我不想只联系发音而也想学会日常口语
When my tutor made fun of me for not being able to understand a motivational speech after 14 months of inconsistent study
I literally stopped studying by HSK level 2 and she expected me for me to understand a speech. 😂
#Badtutor
My wife is my Chinese teacher...she has no patience...ha ha!!!
你刚才发表的视频就是我原来心想的。大部分所谓中文老师don’t actually teach anything. 我渴望一名能够培养我的老师。在学习上我目前没什么具体的结构.. 我就学习随便的话题因为我找不到合适的老师。
glad you didn't keep it to 10 min
千万不要PUA您的学生🤣
this video is traumatizing
Mandarin Chinese? I understand you are trying to specify the dialect of Putonghua and since a lot of potential students in the English world call it Mandarin that's why you are using it too. However I think it is also a teacher's responsibility to explain what Mandarin is. It is a 17th Century Portuguese turned English word which later adopted by the Taiwanese government as official language. In Taiwan, Chinese is officially called Mandarin in English. Well the US recognized Taiwan as China until Jimmy Carter pledged One China Policy in 1978 so it kind of made sense for Taiwan to adopt an American word for its language. There is no Mandarin in schools in China, only Chinese, which includes both written and spoken language. The default spoken language is Putonghua, learned by all students in China. Dialects refer to Cantonese, Shanghai dialect and several hundred of other local dialects. Putonghua is the official English word for specifying the spoken language and is used in China Daily and on CCTV all the time.
Thanks for explaining that to a Chinese native, you are so brave
@@laurentlebesgue6756 Nothing to do with brevity, I am just being accurate. It's minimum that students know the name of the subject they are learning.
@@michael511128 Don't forget that Mandarin Chinese is not the only Chinese language, there is also Cantonese. Cantonese is not just a dialect as you claim - according to linguists, it is a different language because Mandarin and Cantonese are not mutually comprehensible. So one can't just use "Chinese" to refer to Mandarin Chinese. In the English-speaking world, Putonghua is called "Mandarin" or "Mandarin Chinese" - Rita's choice of calling it Mandarin Chinese is therefore appropriate. Linguists call it "Standard Northern Mandarin" or "Standard Beijing Mandarin" or "Modern Standard Mandarin".
@@erlebach123 You are right on some of the points. I was born to a Cantonese speaking family so I speak Cantonese too. Schools in China, including schools in Guangdong Province, use Putonghua in all its classes. It is mandatory. Students are told to speak only Putonghua in class while they are free to speak their local dialects after class. Cantonese is the most spoken dialect in China due to a large population but it is a dialect. Putonghua on the other hand is not a dialect. Putonghua is Chinese. It is the language every one is taught in school, used on TV and in newspaper. Mandarin as a language in name per se exist only outside of China, predominantly in the US and adopted by Taiwan. Some schools in the US, especially universities, call their classes Chinese and not Mandarin, but most middle and high schools still call it Mandarin. Until the most recent decades the dominant Chinese ethnic population in the US was Taiwanese origin, more than half a million. Therefore it is only natural that they were employed as teachers and the classes are called Mandarin. After US China relationship established it is left as more a political issue rather than professional. If this channel has a Taiwan teacher teaching Mandarin than it is fine. But she is teaching Chinese or Putonghua which is not Mandarin. Written Mandarin is quite different from written Chinese, the difference of the so called traditional and simplified Chinese. Spoken Mandarin in Taiwan is also not exactly the same as spoken Chinese, more than the difference between American English and say, Australian. The phrase Mandarin Chinese is used for marketing purposes to attract more students. BTW, lately I came across an uploader call Katherine's Journey. She is an American and she speaks excellent Chinese. You might want to watch a few episodes of hers.
@@AJ-fo2pl Not much need to refer to Putonghua, just use Chinese. Putonghua is Chinese. Usually in China, due to various dialects being spoken in local communities, people have a need to specify Putonghua as Chinese. But for foreigners, it's just Chinese. The point of this discussion is that on this channel it is Chinese and not Mandarin. It is kind of like explaining Chop Sui is not an authentic Chinese food but a minor locality. Think of minority groups in the US that speak Spanish or Indian population dialects but they all learn English. And, isn't it awkward to learn a language called Mandarin that does not officially exist in China?