Healthy baby goat found dead!?!?!
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- I got two questions that perfectly illustrate why people find "a perfectly healthy" baby dead.
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My goats feed their babies so much milk they are huge. I have LaMancha ADGA goats. The musculature of these babies is awesome.
Another reason a goat can die getting into poisonous vegetation. I had all wild cherry trees removed from my property years ago. A volunteer one came up and I was unaware. She got very sick and I lost milk and discovered the tree. I hired someone to take it out. She is better after some Pepto Bismol but I learned a very valuable lesson. I almost lost her. She ate leaves and green berries very toxic.
That is so great about your babies! On the subject of plant poisoning, I wanted to add that Pepto Bismol did not save your goat. If anyone thinks their goat has eaten something toxic, you need to call the vet ASAP as time is really important. It is the pits of cherries that are poisonous, and only when they're crushed, which a goat would do -- so a person swallowing a cherry pit is okay. Your goat probably survived because she didn't eat too many of the actual cherries. My goats killed my four cherry bushes by eating all the leaves and stripping the bark.
@@DeborahNiemann I am talking about wild cherry trees. The pit of the berries is cyanide which kills a goat. I lost my favorite goat 20 years ago to it. I had no idea until well after the fact that she had ingested this. When Hope started losing weight and acting strange and got diarrhea I discovered the culprit. I gave her the pepto for stomach upset and diarrhea. Within 3 hours she was wagging her tail. I have lost my 1-2 gallons day of milk but glad I saved her. I have raised dairy goats for 30+ years and very seldom need to call a vet. I have herds of 50 but currently only a few. Too much at my age.
When I explained that cherry pits are poisonous, it was more for others who are reading this - and it doesn’t matter whether it’s wild cherries or not. All cherry pits are poisonous, and I would hate for one of my followers to think that Pepto Bismol would save a goat that had ingested a lot of them. You never know exactly how much they’ve eaten, so if someone is concerned about losing a goat to poisoning of any sort they shouldn’t waste time because the quicker they call the vet, the better the chance of saving the goat. There is a saying that the dose makes the poison, and I’m glad your doe didn’t ingest enough pits to kill her.
So if you have goat kids (75% Nigerian 25% Nubian) that are 4 weeks and 5 days and 14lbs then they are genuinely healthy? I didn’t weigh them at birth because I hadn’t found your content yet but I estimate they were about 4lbs each. The dam had triplets but rejected one so she’s only nursing two kids. The other is a bottle baby. The doe is a yearling first freshener. I only separated them 1 time overnight until I learned that was a very bad idea after watching some of your UA-cam videos. I had been milking the doe morning and evening WITHOUT separating the kids but as they’ve gotten bigger recently there really isn’t extra milk so I stopped doing that. Thank you so much for making all this UA-cam content! As a person who is new to goats, we’ve had them less than a year, I’ve found your channel SOOO helpful!
I'm so happy to hear that you're finding my content helpful! With 1/4 Nubian thrown in, I'd expect them to gain a little more -- at least 2# a week -- so if they've gained 10#, that sounds pretty good. I would expect a yealring first freshener to be able to nurse twins without any problems if she's a decent milker. I don't usually let them try to nurse triplets. As you found, they usually make than more than enough in the beginning but as the kids grow, their demand increases. So she might have been able to make enough for three in the beginning but usually around two weeks you see one of the kids falling behind.
? I’m new to goats and traded a 3wk old mini La Mancha for 5 of my silver fox rabbits, well that evening I noticed he had diararea then a couple days later his bum was swollen with worms coming out of him. I tried to call her but not answer. I started him on a wormer but the next day was dead.
I have a rabbit farm and my other female Nigerian dwarf goat that’s about 4mths old now. My ? Is not knowing for sure if it was coccidia but going to guess it was, how do I disinfect the pen where he was at? My other goat was not in the same pen with the baby goat. I want to make sure all my other animals will be safe n not get that. Do I need to give my rabbits medicine? They were never exposed to the new goat, he was here a total of 2wks. Before he passed.
Rabbit and goat coccidia are completely different -- as are chicken coccidia, etc. They are all species specific. Transmission is fecal-oral, so unless another goat was eating something that came in contact with feces from the sick goat, they wouldn't get infected with THAT specific coccidia. However, it's worth noting that all goats have some level of coccidia unless they've been living in a sterile room. It does not usually grow out of control, however, unless a goat -- usually only kids -- get stressed.
Just in case you want to buy another buck ... I also noticed you said "he" about the mini LaMancha, and you have a ND doe, so I wanted to mention that you should not breed a bigger buck to a doe of a smaller breed. If you have a ND doe, you need a ND buck for breeding her. Otherwise, you could wind up with birthing complications if she has a kid that is too big for her to birth. I used to raise mini LMs, and their kids are 6-7 pounds while ND kids are usually around 3 pounds, so that's a big difference.
@@DeborahNiemann this was SUPER HELFUL!! Thank you very much..
I figure since the mini lamancha was a male and a mini and that the mini’s are a % of Nigerian dwarf that she would be fine being the female. You have prevented me from making another mistake as I was in the market for another mini male but I will stick with a male Nigerian dwarf as her mate. I have a lot to learn and she is still young (folks say don’t breed her til she’s a year old) so I have time. I think I’m just going to put the brakes on anymore goats for the meantime and do my research on them in the meantime.
I really appreciate your time and advice, thanks again. 1 more ? What should I clean the pen out with that I had the mini in or should I move it all together?
@@Jamie-nc7tx If the kid was in a grass pen outdoors, Mother Nature will take care of it within a few weeks. Age is not as important as size when it comes to breeding. An ND doe should be at least 40 pounds before being bred (about 2/3 of their adult weight). This is assuming they are healthy and growing normally because you want them to continue growing through the pregnancy. In other words, I wouildn't breed a 2-year-old 40-pound doe because she is likely done growing and probably had a parasite challenge as a kid that stunted her growth, meaning that she has the genetics for normal-sized kids. I have seen does that small give birth -- but only if the kid is small enough. Although I have had a couple of does give birth to 5# kids, I also had one that needed a c-section for a 5# kid.
@@DeborahNiemann ok, I need to weigh her, she’s about 4mths now and everything seems to going good. Haven’t had any problems with her at all. Well other than she blaaa-blaaa’s quite a bit when I leave 🙄 lol..
That’s really good to know about the pen, I’ve left it alone in the sun (but it’s rained quite a bit too lately) trying to do research to figure out what to use to clean it so I can regrow the grass n make it safe for my rabbits again as it was originally their exercise pen before the mini was her. I’d like to return that area safely for the rabbits to run around in while I’m cleaning cages. When I was researching a lot of things were saying you have to incinerate anything the goat touched and wasn’t super thrilled about lighting my yard on fire, lol…
It’s nice to know that Mother Nature will help with cleaning that area.
Your videos are extremely helpful and I really appreciate you taking the time to reply n lend some advice.
I'm going to go weigh my kids :)