Who is Born Again? Discussion with Jehovah's Witness
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Brilliant role play discussion with Jehovah's Witness on the topic of BORN AGAIN, with David Englund.
WNFJ (Witnesses Now for Jesus) channel / wnfj2008
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Excellent video! How blessed he is to have that much Bible knowledge have all the scriptures he needs in the conversation.
Prayers for WJs for the Holy Spirit to open up their eyes & hearts!
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Awesome delivery and explanation of Scriptures. Once you accept Jesus as your King and Saviour, the Scriptures become clear and real. As a regular pioneer and a Jw for 35yrs, I thought I had the truth. How wrong I was!. I have been out for only 4 months. But my son re baptized me in the name of Jesus Christ.I have started partaking of the bread and wine. I feel complete. It's only by listening to beautiful people like you Dawn and appreciating all your hard work and sharing videos like this that truly humble me before My God Yaweh and his beautiful son. Xo ❤️ thank you and keep up this amazing ministry Dawn
Thanks very much for sharing this role play discussion Dawn. It contains such strong arguments! I'm sure these can be very helpful in discussions with JW's. It is also a good example of how to be (and remain) respectful towards one another. Keep your great video's coming Dawn and God bless🙏
He did a Great Job, so harmless like a dove 🕊
When I was a JW I would tell people that we pray for God's kingdom to come to earth because it will fix all mankind's problem. But then again how will one be part of that kingdom if they not born again?
Thank you for sharing this video!!!
I'd love to have this sort of conversation with a JW but in my experience I haven't come across a fully indoctrinated witness who would allow me to get past sharing a couple of scriptures. They 'preach' they don't listen.
There are definitely some good scriptures and explanations that I can use but think I would need to cut it down into 'seed droplets' in order to 'find' the right minded witness that is willing to listen.
I think we should take each conversation as it comes.... but in the demonstration there were lots and lots of good ideas!
"They 'preach' they don't listen." Yes, that has also been my experience so far… JW are trained to "advertise" and to "sell their product" , not to have real discussions or exchanges of views.
It is true, of course, that one never should give up hope but, neither should one have unrealistic expectations.
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Great video !!! Thank you and God bless you. 😁🌷
great video, thanks for highlighting it
This JW wont be coming back, lol!
That was a good example of a deep Bible discussion with a JW, unfortunatelly most JW's wont go along with this kind of thing. They will just say "we don't argue with people". They want to steer the conversation and only use their favorit Bible verses, with which they feel comfortable. If they feel that a person is teaching them instead of being taught by them, they will say that the person is not meek or teachable, he's not a 'rightly disposed one'.
Wow just wow.... It's so unbelievable really
THAT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW IT CAN BE DONE. BUT AFTER THE FIRST SCRIPTURE THEY SORT OF REALISE THERE EITHER OUT MATCHED,OR OUT OF TIME TO GET INTO A DISCUSSION.AS WE ONLY HAVE A LIMITED TIME AND PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR ME. WHEN I WAS LITTLE THEY USED TO REALLY BATTLE IT OUT. BUT NOW THEY DONT SEEM TO HAVE THE STAMINA TO HAVE A REAL BIBLE STUDY..SAD BUT TRUE..BUT A TRULY EXCELLENT PIECE
This was great!!! I would love to attend a church like this. 🙏😇
Wonderful, wonderful this is awesome video many thanks 👍👍
very good - is there a transcript for this?
I was raised JW but never could understand the ever changing doctrine, especially the 144,000 never being mentioned by Jesus, only mentioned in John's visions in Revelation. So how could that back reference to previous scripture as depicted my man? I understood it as being the ultimate completion. 12 being the number of completion, as it was the original number of the tribes, so it being exaggerated to the extent of 144,000 means its 12x12x1,000....So it is evident it has more symbolic nature....the same way holy was mentioned almost 18 times (recalling from memory) but only recited 3 in all translations when the text in revelation is what most modern readers would call "repetitive".....Good job, I have helped my spouse an I'm currently aiding other family members out. I am blessed that they listen. The witnesses will answer eventually....but it will be too late.
@@scottgrey2877 Where did I ever say 144,000 was specific to the nation of Israel? It is SYMBOLIC to reference the Jews in Paul's ministry (Romans) to those newly accepting Christ's covenant in the time of Revelation. There will be ones of every tribe and nation. 144,000 instead of just saying 12 because it is an exaggerated form of the original signifying a greater reach since this regards the future. Duh.
@@scottgrey2877 Are you dense? You are taking my comment completely out of context regarding the symbolic visions of John, who used an exaggerated number of the original tribes, (You know, the ones established to bring forth Jesus). Twelve is the number of completion, where 144,000 is the exaggerated result of it being multiplied by itself. Think about that. It was not me literally saying they are the tribes of Israel....Please read and comprehend prior to making statements. Why mention a scripture that was the outcome of a parable given just prior to the priests and Pharisees. That has no relevance here.
very good video i like the scripture at 2 corinthians 5v20 we are ambassadors of christ we believe christ is our head jehovahs wittness bible it says we are subsitute for christ in other words there governing body is in replace of christ but reading the kjb bible makes sense on all of this specially on what the video talks about that we all need to be born again to see the kingdom of god christians reconise jesus as there ruler not man
Great comments ! I agree 👍❤️
I've read the scripture at 2 Corinthians 5:20 in the nwt Bible and it says AMBASSADORS and not what you imply it says "substitute"
That was great reasoning with a JW. I like the way he demonstrated how to speak respectfully and patiently with a jw.....and asking her to read and explain the scriptures, ie. "teach" him. And he didn't resort to ridiculing her. All the things he brought out were things that disturbed and irritated me as a jw of the so called "other sheep". The WT would apply by extension all the requirements of the 144,000 to the "great crowd", yet they were supposedly not in the new covenant with all its benefits. I wondered what the point was for me praying for forgiveness....if God even heard my prayers. And the dogmatic view that 144,000 is a literal number really stuck in my craw. This man's book sounds like it would be extremely helpful in reasoning kindly with JWs. It would be a tad hypocritical of me to use it though because I no longer have confidence in the reliability of the scriptures and their authors in the first place.
Thank you. There is a lot of information about the reliability of scripture. I am sad that you have lost confidence. :(
@@WitnessForJesus I'm sad about that too .
After realizing that even those jws who might enter into some theological discussion with a Christian already are, and will continue to be, shut down I just ask about the WTB&TS’ difficulties with the Australian Royal Commission, IICSA in the UK, the $13 million dollar judgement against the Society because of Gerit Loesch’s refusal to answer a California court subpoena.
They may be unhappy with the news I bring but it seems to bypass their theological defenses.
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The jw org forces you to preach your whole life away Christ ministered 3.5 years when holy-spirit begat him . His ministry was at end times as the anointed are called in the tribulation years to minister 3.5 years they are being prepped and it is an awakening where holy-spirit is your teacher, you do not obey men
(QUESTION ) IF ALL HAVE TO BE BORN AGAIN, WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE EVERYONE THAT DIED BEFORE JESUS AND THE CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION.
Salvation has always been by grace because nobody could keep the whole law. The ones before Jesus whom God saw were faithful were either given revelation about Jesus (Jesus said that Old Testament prophets "saw" his day and also pointed to the fact that the Scriptures, the Hebrew bible, was "concerning himself" Luke 24:27) - or they were deemed worthy by God without additional revelation and taken up to heaven after Jesus resurrection (at which point they were transformed, born again see Eph 4:8). This is of course not something I'm being dogmatic about and different people have different ideas. But we know God is faithful and of course sees to it that all mankind has the same opportunity. Gal 3:28 makes clear that in matters of salvation there is no distinction. There are not two separate hopes, but one hope. Eph 4:4.
@@WitnessForJesus only one hope then please explain these scriptures. The original purpose for mankind was to live on this earth forever never to die or to get old see Genesis 3:22. Psalms 115:16. Isaiah 45:18. Psalms 37:9-11, 29. Isaiah 65:17-25. MATTHEW 5:5. ALL these scriptures are speaking about people living on this earth The other gift that was opened to the Christian congregation was that God would select some humans to be with christ in his Heavenly kingdom ruling over these people on earth.
I honestly don't mean this to cause offence but I have to say that without fail, every single Born Again Christian I've ever met has been a bit nuts. Maybe it's me lol but there is something about them which really repels me in a way that no other group ever has. I say this as an ex JW but I don't think its that which gives me the creeps. Even in this video, the woman is a bit weird and you can tell there's gonna be a happy clappy singlalong once they've finished. I know two local born agains who are adamant that Jesus appeared to them in a prison cell and the bath respectively and told them what the names of their sons should be. I'm not sure which bothered me more, the fact that Jesus chose to appear to a bloke in the bath or that he said his son should be called terry
Hi :) I can see your point, but in general "normality" is overrated. ;)
They did a very good job. They must of been in the ministry school for many years. I was hoping that he would of pointed out that the 144,000 come from the tribes of Judah which means they are Jews and not Gentiles. I enjoyed this video. THANK YOU.
He and his wife were never Jehovah’s witnesses
@@WitnessForJesus wow. Very impressive. Thank you.
(JEW) Natural ( JEW ) Spiritual. Please read MATTHEW 21:43 MATTHEW 23:37-38 Romans 2:28,29. Romans chapter 4. Galatians 3:27,29.The NATION of Israel was replaced by the Christian congregation made up of Jews and Gentiles these would become the the NEW NATIONS bringing forth fruits MATTHEW 21:43. This would be a Spiritual Nation. The twelve tribes in Numbers chapter 1 is not the same as the one in REVELATION 7:4 Levi had never been a tribe and Joseph had never been part of the original Twelve tribes in Numbers these are Spiritual Jews NOT NATURAL.
There is a great deal of error on both sides. I highly recommend looking up Dr Brant Pitre in order to understand how a Biblical Jew would have understood John 3 and John 6. Dr. Pitre received his PhD in ancient Judaism and early Christianity from Notre Dame in 2004.
Dr Pitre is awesome 👍
Have the 144000 been sealed yet and if not can anyone today claim to be of the 144000?
The Bible is clear about who those are, the 144....
And not a one of them a "witness for jehovah."
Israelites and Jesus were witnesses of Yahweh not born again (Isaiah 43:10, Revelation 1:5).
Jesus said at Mathew 24:32,33, Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as the twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door.....It is clear that Christ's return doesn't happen until around April/May when the leaves on the trees start to appear. My birth date was the 29th April 1967 (The meaning of number 29 in the Bible is the "coming of Christ). My ex wife Samantha's birth date was the 13th May 1967. The 13th May is 1 day before Israel celebrate their anniversary of becoming a nation. My ex wife Samantha is the "daughter of Zion" mentioned in Jeremiah 6:2. Christ return will not happen in winter time. Matthew 24:20 says, Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on a Sabbath. The rapture of Christians meeting the lord in the air is a false gospel. God's kingdom will be established here on earth and not in heaven. Jehovah's Witnesses are God's chosen people. The rapture of the church is when Malachi chapter 3 is fulfilled and the cleansing of Jehovah's temple in the sense of destroying the false teachings and doctrines of Watchtower the Jehovah's Witnesses. YES it is true that I am the prophet Elijah reborn of Malachi 4:5 and the messenger of the covenant of Malachi chapter 3. I am the Son of God, Christ the Messiah the second coming. Isaiah 53:1 says, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? Isaiah chapter 53 is not talking about Jesus but the life I have experienced over the last 10 years after being wrongly disfellowshipped from Jehovah's Witnesses on the 2nd June 2010. Jesus is here on earth now and I know him but he himself is unaware of who he is at this time. Jesus second coming is another false teaching. The prophet Elijah reborn is the second coming.
Was she really a JW or she was just acting??
She was acting - that is David's wife