@@stevenborg102 Usually, with Jim Jarmusch, there is not much of a story needed. His films are, in one way or another, about situations, about human communication or (for the most parts) its failure, about a sense of the tragically comic in that, part human interest, part absurd cinema. And that's about all you are going to get in terms of cohesiveness. The rest is mostly a pretty wild-card deck of seemingly unrelated audiovisual and narrative motifs, cinematic experimentation (to some degree), oddball characters, laid-back observant shots, slow pacing, nice lighting, and an atmospheric score to fit the mood. Very eclectic stuff, but always much more character-orientated than invested in a narrative plot or a deeper message. These films are about rhythm, flow, mood, and quite often contain a very dry sense of humour.
@@elfsieben1450 Yeah, I've made excuses for a drunk mate too...it was awful! He might well be one of the best filmmakers of the last 30 years but it's a howler. Even Mark's been too kind... 🤯
I came out of the cinema uncertain as to whether A) I'd witnessed a work of pretentious conceptual performance art so subtle in it's intellectual brilliance as to completely go over my head; or B) just a really crappy movie. Thank you Mark, for clearing that up.
Did you need Mark to tell you? The trailer is terrible. You can tell what Mark says from the trailer. Seriously. It looks so lazy and hackneyed. I don't understand it at all.
I sat in this movie and honestly didn't know what to make of it from one scene to the next. It was nothing I haven't seen done more competently, insightful or funnier elsewhere.
I've actually reconsidered this. Taken at face value this film doesn't seem to work, but when you think about it the allegory actually does. Things that seem to "go nowhere" are key points in this allegory. For example, Murray and Driver acknowledging the "script" seems like a failed attempt at breaking the fourth wall when in fact it's really there to elucidate how people are trapped by societies expectations. The kids from juvenile detention that don't do anything but escape seems pointless, but their survival (like Tom Waits) shows that only those who are not entrenched in society can survive it's rampant mind control and consumerism (unlike trendy hipsters and capitalist shop keepers). I could go on, but you get the point. I'm not saying that all this works in terms of making an entertaining movie, but ideologically the film is cohesive.
@@thebatmanfan1309 it does nothing interesting or new though, it's quite a boring film and a waste of a decent cast if you ask me. If a film is gonna be monotonous at least make that be the point, this film doesn't even do that well enough to be interesting. It's fine in the same way a warm beer is, I'll still take it but I wish it wasn't that way
@@UltraGoodTV look up the definition of subjective, normal people don't go around dictating to others over their feelings, that's really messed up on your part
Absolutely loved it. It's saddening to see the lukewarm to negative reception it's gotten. Personally I've currently got it tied alongside Under the Silver Lake as this year's most underrated film.
Couldn't agree more both very underrated!!!! , although I do understand why audience don't warm to either of them..... You either love or hate them type of films.
starkingbiker I'll agree that it's not his best work. But when your best is the likes of Only Lovers Left Alive, Patterson, Dead Man, it was always going to be a high bar to reach. But for me it just felt like such a refreshing take on an incredibly tired and done to death genre. Seeing Jarmusch bring his delightfully dry sense of humour and indie/quirky sensibilities to this genre was such a blast to watch. Plus the cast are all absolutely sublime, and endlessly compelling and entertaining to watch.
I mean... yeah. And no. I do agree with what Mark says, pretty much 90%, the movie never really hits an actual climax and the aliens scene is really something that made me roll my eyes so far back I saw the insides of my skull, and yeah the fourth wall breaks could have been avoided, yes it’s lukewarm. But it’s also the first horror movie with explicit political themes I’ve seen in a very long time. Usually horror movies are just jump scares with a setting, kind of like going through a generic haunted house. This movie is saying something, at least, and I like that more than something that’s just scary. It’s an angry movie and it shows, and honestly? Mood. So yeah, the realization could be better, but thematically-wise I really liked what I got out of the movie with.
Anybody expecting a climax is just out of place coming to a Jarmusch movie. Climax is simply not how he rolls. His style is different, more like a dreamy, dreary sleepwalk. Love it or leave it.
I felt a bit let down by the film, but I guess it's because I was so hyped about it. JJ is one of my favourite directors, and I absolutely love zombie films, so it was quite a match made in heaven. But then when I watched it, it was the thing I could never anticipate it would be... soulless. I even saved to watch it on my birthday but left the cinema underwhelmed.
It's the Jim Jarmusch all-star zombie karaoke of George Romero's greatest hits. I still loved it, but I have a sick mind. And who refuses to laugh at RZA driving for "Wu-PS" deliveries?
@@starkingbiker I guess you are reading way too much into it. Jarmusch probably could not care less whether people find it clever, he just loves shooting movies in his own, self-absorbed manner. Either you like it or you don't. After all has been done before, zombie-wise, why not bring his own style to it, regardless of whether the plot has something new to offer?
Just watched it yesterday. There are some spoilers in this post so be aware that you may want to pass it by. It's funny, but not hilarious. I think some of the gags are funnier looking back on it than they were in the cinema (such as the scene where all of the zombies are in the park playing sports, or the map of the local area with the silly place names) so it's either got the potential to be better on a repeat viewing, or the gags weren't delivered as well as they might be. I kind of feel that it might have been more interesting without the fourth wall breaks being so overt, as with the lead characters knowing that they're actors in a film there are some missed opportunities to comment on how the media encourages us to lose empathy for one another via one of the cop's dispassionate approach to decapitating any bodies they come across. I was also disappointed that Tilda Swinton's character had no motivation at all. I guessed the twist fairly easily but if there was any information regarding why she was posing as a mortician it was lost on me.
It’s funny with jarmusch, I can watch some of his films over and over but some like dead man or only lovers left alive just don’t click with me. This probably won’t either and I was really looking forward to it
I've only seen Only Lovers left alive and Coffee and Cigarettes. Hated Only Lovers (with the exception of some moments) and really enjoyed Coffee and cigarettes. I'm not sure what to think of Mr Jarmusch
mabusestestament I liked Paterson a lot and broken flowers. Night on earth is also a good one but the rest have no rewatch value for me. His like David Lynch and terry Gilliam, very hit and miss
First person I've ever known to NOT rate "Dead Man." Each to their own I suppose, but I can never get sick of that film. It's just so moving and poignant and... man, SO good. Peace.
Jarmusch is like a Rorschach test, helps you find out what you like or dislike about different approaches to films. He tries out a lot simply by straying from any semblance to generic or narrative conventions. The only concurrent leitmotif throughout his films is a dry sense of situational humour when it comes to the hang-ups of interpersonal communication, lack of understanding due to widely differing horizons of experience or points of view, completely baffled expectations. No wonder his films are hit and miss to most of us. We all bring different experiences, expectations, points of view; and Jarmusch never does much to enforce or even explain his own, he just toys around with different themes and motives each time. My faves are Only Lovers Left Alive, Ghost Dog, Broken Flowers.
Looks tediously post modern. Don't get me wrong I love irony and post-modern comedy, but this looks like the type of film that not so clever people use to try and look clever. The kind of people that treat art school as finishing school.
I have always loved the zombie genre but I really do think NOTLD, The Walking Dead, and Shaun of the Dead have so thoroughly "done everything and said everything" you can say with the zombie motif that we won't see an inspired zombie movie for decades.
I was really excited for this since my favorite Jarmusch movies are the ones where he dips his toes into genre like Dead Man or Ghost Dog. This one was kind of a letdown.
I laughed my head off watching this movie and I loved it; although, I can understand why many others don't. Even thinking about it now makes me laugh. 🤣 🤣
@@ManubibiWalsh Jim jarmusch is far more pretentious but even worse seems to exclusively make dull, directionless, nonsensical gash that barely register as movies. At least Wes Anderson has some decent films despite the pretentiousness.
It's a zombie satire that trolls zombie pop culture as much as it trolls the generation most likely to see it purely because it's yet another zombie movie. Its concept is part dream logic - prodding at the fourth wall by consistently teasing that even characters know it's scripted and that they're stuck in a story that's about to end badly - and part love letter to American small-town simplicity and mentality no matter how the culture changes. And yet kinda like Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai, it appeals to those who approach Tarantino like it's theatre, counting on character dramatics and dynamics rather than expensive but ultimately vapid in-your-face spectacle - surreal rather than unreal. But unlike movies that promise everything and give nothing, if you know Jarmusch you expect nothing and leave delighted. Same with Murray, Swinton, Glover, Waits and Buscemi. Also the ending of this movie is what will always be missing from the legend that started it all: Night of the Living Dead. Murray is so stone cold even zombie Danny Glover is too old for that shit!
Dream logic is what Jarmusch is all about. His directional style is basically sleepwalking all over the place and ignoring any conventional narrative structures.
@@PhilosopherOfFafoism In German we have a saying "mit schlafwandlerischer Sicherheit" (selfassured like a sleepwalker), meaning someone has perfect intuition for something (or has reached peak skill at something due to master level experience, understanding and ingrained training). To me it also bears the connotation of tight-rope walkers being safe in their routines. It means you could do something blindfolded, without giving it a single thought, and without ever running the risk of fumbling or stumbling. All the Jarmusch flicks I have seen so far have had this sense of stylistic security about them, however strange or far out they might seem, and whether I could relate to them or not did not make much of a difference in that respect. He seems very at home in what he does.
I watched 15 minutes of home sweet home alone last night. Turned that off and watched all of the dead don't die. Then I watched 30 minutes of the terminal. This morning when I woke up I literally couldn't remember watching this film.
Such a shame. I was very excited to see this movie when I first saw previews. I will definitely stream it when it's available but every review I've heard indicates I will likely be disappointed.
I think Jarmusch is basically saying with this social satire, that with entertainment being so base and diluted, with nobody seemingly trying, all of us happy to ingest short clips and rehashed garbage, he is like "OK, I won't try either then". If he purposefully made it a mess for that reason, then I think it was a resounding success.
It didn’t bring anything new to the zombie film. The consumers are zombies, the humans are the ants running around etc etc. Felt like a nihilistic get out clause of a film at times. The juvenile prisoner scenes were good and should’ve been given more screen time to develop a kind of next gen vs old gen storyline but instead we get a pointless Tom Waits character wandering in a woods talking in metaphors and tutting to himself about humanity while the three prisoners story was dropped completely with no ending.
"Rock N Roll will never die" maybe because it was never alive, if so many passions we pursue are actually dead ends. then its time to get on with the real thing, Did we miss the starting gun or were we listening to something else. Meanwhile the Star Ship fades away in the distance.
If only more Hollywood types would have the bravery to call all Trump supporters racist. It's such a subtle, clever take and so refeshing in July 2019.
and the emptiness of life is normally what Jarmusch is quite good at, see Pattison, Broken Flowers, Dead Man. Brilliant films which ruminate on the still and quiet moments.
@@TheTelepathicKid I wouldn't say emptiness, but loneliness rather. His characters rarely connect, and if they do it is pretty unlikely, only briefly or at a very odd angle.
I think it was a joke on creative entropy he's doing a zombified version of himself and his style in a genre that has been milked to death so if there's nothing new and he's not creating anything new why not just repeat what somebody else said and did ie George A Romero.
I rarely feel deceived when I spend money to see a film, because most of the time, even when a film isn't great, you feel like the people behind it tried. However, this one felt like a big scam.
Tilda Swinton character is crucial to understanding the movie's message. No one seems to get it at all. Everything she does (yes even the end scene with her) is fully intentional and brilliantly constructed main character.
I've just seen the movie and it's probably one of the WORST movies I've ever had the misfortune of seeing. PLEASE don't waste your money. It's meant to be a comedy horror and there was neither comedy nor horror. It was as if the director and cast purposely tried to take the mick out of paying customers. If I've saved someone £15 for the price of a ticket then I will be pleased.
I've just finally watched it and I've learnt two things..... 1) Bill Murray will take anything this far into his career and get a very big pay out and it shows . 2) this film isn't highbrow satire or adjective humour with a upper lipped cerebral horror....its not its just shite. Avoid, bill should be ashamed and Adam well......well erm, yeah the end.
This is like the 3rd Zombie movie blaming fracking for the zombie apocalypse. I thought it was very slow and 'meta' (super inside). The movie even makes fun of itself at least 3 different times by saying 'they've read the script' or 'this is the theme song'. The movie moves so slow with no pay off during the slow parts and no pay off at the end. It was not worth even one viewing. The cast was spectacular of course, but the script was just.....yuck. It's this super hipster/meta/inside garbage. By the time the movie was over I thought, "I wonder who wrote this script? A wild animal? Or several wild animals?"
Completely unnecessary & several years too late to the party. I used to be the world's biggest zombie fan, now I'm utterly sick of them in popular culture. Nothing will ever best Romero's classic trilogy (Night, Dawn & Day).
5:44 Kermode sums it up with one noise. So it's Shaun of the dead if it got americanised ( FUBAR ) You think maybe it's the next Tucker and Dale vs Evil, looks rubbish, unheard of but brilliant. Nope it's A list filled dross. Hopefully I'll see it listed on TV in 3-4 years and give it a watch
"signposting"? Really? Please just use english. I loved this movie. I lived in it as I do most, if not all, of his movies. You want too much from this film. It is almost perfect as it is. Leave it be.
This film is actually an unintentional meta-commentary on our society. It shows how prominent echo chambers are in all segments of society. In this case it's how people including A list actors have convinced themselves that Jim Jarmusch is brilliant. If you don't like his movies it's because you don't get his "style". It's like a Hans Christian Andersen story run amok. Everyone knows this film is crap, but some people think it makes them look smart if they claim to "get it". These insiders reinforce each other, but meanwhile we all know they're really naked.
To find 7 minutes of things to talk about in this is a great skill. A good old turkey of a film
@@stevenborg102 Usually, with Jim Jarmusch, there is not much of a story needed. His films are, in one way or another, about situations, about human communication or (for the most parts) its failure, about a sense of the tragically comic in that, part human interest, part absurd cinema. And that's about all you are going to get in terms of cohesiveness. The rest is mostly a pretty wild-card deck of seemingly unrelated audiovisual and narrative motifs, cinematic experimentation (to some degree), oddball characters, laid-back observant shots, slow pacing, nice lighting, and an atmospheric score to fit the mood. Very eclectic stuff, but always much more character-orientated than invested in a narrative plot or a deeper message. These films are about rhythm, flow, mood, and quite often contain a very dry sense of humour.
@@elfsieben1450 Yeah, I've made excuses for a drunk mate too...it was awful! He might well be one of the best filmmakers of the last 30 years but it's a howler. Even Mark's been too kind... 🤯
Elf Sieben why do people like him get movies on Netflix? It feels weirdly unfair
I came out of the cinema uncertain as to whether A) I'd witnessed a work of pretentious conceptual performance art so subtle in it's intellectual brilliance as to completely go over my head; or B) just a really crappy movie.
Thank you Mark, for clearing that up.
Did you need Mark to tell you? The trailer is terrible. You can tell what Mark says from the trailer. Seriously. It looks so lazy and hackneyed. I don't understand it at all.
B) is the correct option
I was watching the cast's names being popped up in front of me and was getting more and more excited.... Nothing ever happened.
I got 1 hour into this film and then googled this review to make sure I was not completely mental thinking it was a load of old bollocks...
B) definitely B .
I got 1 hour into this film and then googled this review to make sure I was not completely mental thinking it was a load of old bollocks...
Snap! Although I'm only 31 minutes in.
100% agree!
Lmao, it was supposed to be
R/whoosh
Ha Ha . Quality comment my friend
@@uncannyvalley2350 no
I feel like the director went 'don't act. just stand mostly still and say the words in the script.'
also, Shawn of the dead did the same thing, but infinitely better.
Jim gave you a script? The whole script? He just gave me my scenes!....This is going to end badly.
I feel like literally every single person in this movie was half asleep. The whole movie was just....SEDATED.
Literally the point
@@uncannyvalley2350 A lethargic movie can be good when done right, this was just poorly executed 😭
Tediously ironic, painfully banal & frankly just flat. A real shame, for me.
Oh you're sooo sophisticated, wish I was a salty sophisticate like you
Although I enjoyed the movie, it did kind of feel like a director making a movie just for something to do.
I felt the same way. That's why I liked it. Its just something to watch. A bit freeing if so
Oh, like Hollywood isn't full of make-work projects.
How can you not love how Kermode turns the director's name into an adjective: Jarmuschy.
David Antrobus
I Jarmusched in me knickers.
Look at the adjective!
I sat in this movie and honestly didn't know what to make of it from one scene to the next.
It was nothing I haven't seen done more competently, insightful or funnier elsewhere.
Spot on. The "fourth wall" gags were cringe worthy.
Just awful! So out of place!
@@stevenborg102 Like a zombie?
The ‘I read the script’ line was eye roll inducing.
That very first 4th wall gag is the point at which I stopped watching.
They broke the 4th wall and erected a 5th wall that no one new existed.
I've actually reconsidered this. Taken at face value this film doesn't seem to work, but when you think about it the allegory actually does. Things that seem to "go nowhere" are key points in this allegory. For example, Murray and Driver acknowledging the "script" seems like a failed attempt at breaking the fourth wall when in fact it's really there to elucidate how people are trapped by societies expectations. The kids from juvenile detention that don't do anything but escape seems pointless, but their survival (like Tom Waits) shows that only those who are not entrenched in society can survive it's rampant mind control and consumerism (unlike trendy hipsters and capitalist shop keepers). I could go on, but you get the point. I'm not saying that all this works in terms of making an entertaining movie, but ideologically the film is cohesive.
There have been so many zomedies over the last 10-15 years, if you're going to make another it better be damn good or at least different.
fodsaks cut of the dead is supposed to be good
It was different. You just didn't like it. Simple as that.
@@thebatmanfan1309 it does nothing interesting or new though, it's quite a boring film and a waste of a decent cast if you ask me. If a film is gonna be monotonous at least make that be the point, this film doesn't even do that well enough to be interesting. It's fine in the same way a warm beer is, I'll still take it but I wish it wasn't that way
It was literally an anti zombie movie, a commentary on the overdone trope that is Zombies
So, ironic, get it?
@@UltraGoodTV look up the definition of subjective, normal people don't go around dictating to others over their feelings, that's really messed up on your part
Absolutely loved it. It's saddening to see the lukewarm to negative reception it's gotten. Personally I've currently got it tied alongside Under the Silver Lake as this year's most underrated film.
Couldn't agree more both very underrated!!!! , although I do understand why audience don't warm to either of them..... You either love or hate them type of films.
I hated it I thought the comedy parts were just cringy
@@shaneoneill7680 Damn thats a shame but I get where your coming from, even though it really worked for me.
CFCxStealthsZz Yeah I guess it’s just different senses of humor
starkingbiker I'll agree that it's not his best work. But when your best is the likes of Only Lovers Left Alive, Patterson, Dead Man, it was always going to be a high bar to reach. But for me it just felt like such a refreshing take on an incredibly tired and done to death genre.
Seeing Jarmusch bring his delightfully dry sense of humour and indie/quirky sensibilities to this genre was such a blast to watch. Plus the cast are all absolutely sublime, and endlessly compelling and entertaining to watch.
It needs a zombie wrestling a shark by the sound of it
Doublediamond92 not many would get that genre joke - I did btw. Nice one!
Arthantos Zombie Flesh Eaters is a firm personal favourite haha
That film is a masterpiece.
"So they're zombies with arched eyebrows." lmao
I mean... yeah. And no.
I do agree with what Mark says, pretty much 90%, the movie never really hits an actual climax and the aliens scene is really something that made me roll my eyes so far back I saw the insides of my skull, and yeah the fourth wall breaks could have been avoided, yes it’s lukewarm. But it’s also the first horror movie with explicit political themes I’ve seen in a very long time. Usually horror movies are just jump scares with a setting, kind of like going through a generic haunted house. This movie is saying something, at least, and I like that more than something that’s just scary. It’s an angry movie and it shows, and honestly? Mood. So yeah, the realization could be better, but thematically-wise I really liked what I got out of the movie with.
Anybody expecting a climax is just out of place coming to a Jarmusch movie. Climax is simply not how he rolls. His style is different, more like a dreamy, dreary sleepwalk. Love it or leave it.
Great name for a Bond movie.
Or a Lovecraft one.
I thought it was napoleon dynamite with zombies
This film was so... So boring
I felt a bit let down by the film, but I guess it's because I was so hyped about it. JJ is one of my favourite directors, and I absolutely love zombie films, so it was quite a match made in heaven. But then when I watched it, it was the thing I could never anticipate it would be... soulless. I even saved to watch it on my birthday but left the cinema underwhelmed.
Hmmmm... okay. I still want to see it but guess I'll wait for Netflix or HBO to show it.
Douglas Dea
Don’t spend money at theater, it’s not very good.
It's not great. Some funny moments but nothing actually happens in it
It's a zombie movie about nothing. I watch it every time HBO shows it...but then I'm a big Murray and Driver fan.
It's the Jim Jarmusch all-star zombie karaoke of George Romero's greatest hits. I still loved it, but I have a sick mind. And who refuses to laugh at RZA driving for "Wu-PS" deliveries?
@@starkingbiker I guess you are reading way too much into it. Jarmusch probably could not care less whether people find it clever, he just loves shooting movies in his own, self-absorbed manner. Either you like it or you don't. After all has been done before, zombie-wise, why not bring his own style to it, regardless of whether the plot has something new to offer?
Just watched it yesterday. There are some spoilers in this post so be aware that you may want to pass it by.
It's funny, but not hilarious.
I think some of the gags are funnier looking back on it than they were in the cinema (such as the scene where all of the zombies are in the park playing sports, or the map of the local area with the silly place names) so it's either got the potential to be better on a repeat viewing, or the gags weren't delivered as well as they might be.
I kind of feel that it might have been more interesting without the fourth wall breaks being so overt, as with the lead characters knowing that they're actors in a film there are some missed opportunities to comment on how the media encourages us to lose empathy for one another via one of the cop's dispassionate approach to decapitating any bodies they come across.
I was also disappointed that Tilda Swinton's character had no motivation at all. I guessed the twist fairly easily but if there was any information regarding why she was posing as a mortician it was lost on me.
I enjoyed it. It was exactly what I expected it to be. Others were expecting Romero.
Same for me
I expected nothing: the first I heard of it was seeing it on Netflix and hitting play.
I’ve never heard of the director
7:01 the only difference is the inflection in "we're... all... Zoooombies?" HAHAHA that killed me!!!!!!
"zombies with arched eyebrows" LOL!!
It’s funny with jarmusch, I can watch some of his films over and over but some like dead man or only lovers left alive just don’t click with me. This probably won’t either and I was really looking forward to it
I've only seen Only Lovers left alive and Coffee and Cigarettes. Hated Only Lovers (with the exception of some moments) and really enjoyed Coffee and cigarettes. I'm not sure what to think of Mr Jarmusch
mabusestestament I liked Paterson a lot and broken flowers. Night on earth is also a good one but the rest have no rewatch value for me. His like David Lynch and terry Gilliam, very hit and miss
A shame, deadman is his master work
First person I've ever known to NOT rate "Dead Man." Each to their own I suppose, but I can never get sick of that film. It's just so moving and poignant and... man, SO good. Peace.
Jarmusch is like a Rorschach test, helps you find out what you like or dislike about different approaches to films. He tries out a lot simply by straying from any semblance to generic or narrative conventions. The only concurrent leitmotif throughout his films is a dry sense of situational humour when it comes to the hang-ups of interpersonal communication, lack of understanding due to widely differing horizons of experience or points of view, completely baffled expectations. No wonder his films are hit and miss to most of us. We all bring different experiences, expectations, points of view; and Jarmusch never does much to enforce or even explain his own, he just toys around with different themes and motives each time. My faves are Only Lovers Left Alive, Ghost Dog, Broken Flowers.
Looks tediously post modern. Don't get me wrong I love irony and post-modern comedy, but this looks like the type of film that not so clever people use to try and look clever. The kind of people that treat art school as finishing school.
Adam Driver channeling Christopher Walken in that clip!
Gave up on this movie after about forty minutes. Impossible as it might sound, I suspect I was even more bored than the actors appeared to be.
I have always loved the zombie genre but I really do think NOTLD, The Walking Dead, and Shaun of the Dead have so thoroughly "done everything and said everything" you can say with the zombie motif that we won't see an inspired zombie movie for decades.
I was really excited for this since my favorite Jarmusch movies are the ones where he dips his toes into genre like Dead Man or Ghost Dog. This one was kind of a letdown.
I liked his take on vampires best. A very unexpected one.
I laughed my head off watching this movie and I loved it; although, I can understand why many others don't. Even thinking about it now makes me laugh. 🤣 🤣
@@cheuld5125 why not exactly?
Adam Driver and Bill Murray are masters at dead-pan humor. I loved it.
ah well, I'm sure they'll be another zombie resurrection along soon.
It's uncanny I agree with this review so much. It's too arch and repetitive in its self reflection.
God Kermode, your hands are massive.
How do you know without the banana?
I would like to see it directed by Wes Anderson.
God no, spare me the pretentiousness.
@@ManubibiWalsh Jim jarmusch is far more pretentious but even worse seems to exclusively make dull, directionless, nonsensical gash that barely register as movies.
At least Wes Anderson has some decent films despite the pretentiousness.
I think Murray enjoys working for both because they both creatively direct him so similarly.
I don't get the use of the word pretentious. It isn't Oscar bait and doesn't want to be. It's made for fun, not with a sense of superiority.
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Love Jim Jarmusch films usually, zombie flicks too, but can't work up any enthusiasm to watch this. Been done to death chaps.
It's a zombie satire that trolls zombie pop culture as much as it trolls the generation most likely to see it purely because it's yet another zombie movie. Its concept is part dream logic - prodding at the fourth wall by consistently teasing that even characters know it's scripted and that they're stuck in a story that's about to end badly - and part love letter to American small-town simplicity and mentality no matter how the culture changes.
And yet kinda like Ghost Dog: Way of the Samurai, it appeals to those who approach Tarantino like it's theatre, counting on character dramatics and dynamics rather than expensive but ultimately vapid in-your-face spectacle - surreal rather than unreal.
But unlike movies that promise everything and give nothing, if you know Jarmusch you expect nothing and leave delighted. Same with Murray, Swinton, Glover, Waits and Buscemi. Also the ending of this movie is what will always be missing from the legend that started it all: Night of the Living Dead.
Murray is so stone cold even zombie Danny Glover is too old for that shit!
Dream logic is what Jarmusch is all about. His directional style is basically sleepwalking all over the place and ignoring any conventional narrative structures.
@@elfsieben1450 thank you for dropping that in, that's right and that's why I like him all the more for it today.
@@PhilosopherOfFafoism In German we have a saying "mit schlafwandlerischer Sicherheit" (selfassured like a sleepwalker), meaning someone has perfect intuition for something (or has reached peak skill at something due to master level experience, understanding and ingrained training). To me it also bears the connotation of tight-rope walkers being safe in their routines. It means you could do something blindfolded, without giving it a single thought, and without ever running the risk of fumbling or stumbling. All the Jarmusch flicks I have seen so far have had this sense of stylistic security about them, however strange or far out they might seem, and whether I could relate to them or not did not make much of a difference in that respect. He seems very at home in what he does.
I watched 15 minutes of home sweet home alone last night. Turned that off and watched all of the dead don't die. Then I watched 30 minutes of the terminal.
This morning when I woke up I literally couldn't remember watching this film.
I loved this, although I was drunk at the time
The dr's not angry, just disappointed
Such a shame. I was very excited to see this movie when I first saw previews. I will definitely stream it when it's available but every review I've heard indicates I will likely be disappointed.
I think Jarmusch is basically saying with this social satire, that with entertainment being so base and diluted, with nobody seemingly trying, all of us happy to ingest short clips and rehashed garbage, he is like "OK, I won't try either then". If he purposefully made it a mess for that reason, then I think it was a resounding success.
It didn’t bring anything new to the zombie film. The consumers are zombies, the humans are the ants running around etc etc. Felt like a nihilistic get out clause of a film at times. The juvenile prisoner scenes were good and should’ve been given more screen time to develop a kind of next gen vs old gen storyline but instead we get a pointless Tom Waits character wandering in a woods talking in metaphors and tutting to himself about humanity while the three prisoners story was dropped completely with no ending.
Sounds like a Jarmusch movie, alright.
"Rock N Roll will never die" maybe because it was never alive, if so many passions we pursue are actually dead ends. then its time to get on with the real thing, Did we miss the starting gun or were we listening to something else. Meanwhile the Star Ship fades away in the distance.
If only more Hollywood types would have the bravery to call all Trump supporters racist. It's such a subtle, clever take and so refeshing in July 2019.
That's not what happened though. Read the message on the hat again.
Nah, that would just be sticking to the facts.
that clip was worthy of The Howling Part 7...can't think of many higher accolades.
Spot.On. Huge missed opportunity.
It's one thing to do a movie around the emptiness of life, another to do a movie empty of any interrest. Except Tilda Swinton.
and the emptiness of life is normally what Jarmusch is quite good at, see Pattison, Broken Flowers, Dead Man.
Brilliant films which ruminate on the still and quiet moments.
@@TheTelepathicKid I wouldn't say emptiness, but loneliness rather. His characters rarely connect, and if they do it is pretty unlikely, only briefly or at a very odd angle.
I think it was a joke on creative entropy he's doing a zombified version of himself and his style in a genre that has been milked to death so if there's nothing new and he's not creating anything new why not just repeat what somebody else said and did ie George A Romero.
It had it's moments....best can be said for it..
Adam Driver sounding like Christopher Walken.
The chardonnay scene was the only laugh out loud moment, a very slow and dull film
"No-one's ever really gone" … Luke Skywalker
.....unless they're milking amphibious alien sea creatures
Ahhhhhh youknow, I'd feel awkward watching this is cinema so I'll watch it at home for free so i can facepalm and regret watching it in peace.
More zombies? Beating a dead horse. Snore
Beating a dead corpse. Basically the whole blunted "point".
Romero always say he just made the zombie movies without any context...
The trailer was better than the actual film.
Disappointing film BUT tonally I find it fascinating. Kind of like a drama based off a comedy based off a drama.
Wirral Zombies?
Saw this a few days ago. Kind of amusing, but in the end, somewhat pointless.
What’s iggy pop doing in this?
I'll just watch Shaun of the Dead again.
Even in that few seconds of a clip, Bill Murray conveys a mess of emotion.
I rarely feel deceived when I spend money to see a film, because most of the time, even when a film isn't great, you feel like the people behind it tried. However, this one felt like a big scam.
Sounds like this one is about money
Would have been better as a series. Feels like they ran out of time.e to deliver the ot at the end?
Tilda Swinton character is crucial to understanding the movie's message. No one seems to get it at all. Everything she does (yes even the end scene with her) is fully intentional and brilliantly constructed main character.
Could you explain? I really feel like I'm a bit at a loss with this movie
I've just seen the movie and it's probably one of the WORST movies I've ever had the misfortune of seeing. PLEASE don't waste your money. It's meant to be a comedy horror and there was neither comedy nor horror. It was as if the director and cast purposely tried to take the mick out of paying customers. If I've saved someone £15 for the price of a ticket then I will be pleased.
Is that Iggy Pop on the thumbnail?
Tried to watch it. Failed. Props to RZA for selling the WuPS delivery guy joke though.
Total disappointment. Great cast, dreadful script... almost complete rubbish. 🙁
Lol “chloe savini”
I've just finally watched it and I've learnt two things.....
1) Bill Murray will take anything this far into his career and get a very big pay out and it shows .
2) this film isn't highbrow satire or adjective humour with a upper lipped cerebral horror....its not its just shite.
Avoid, bill should be ashamed and Adam well......well erm, yeah the end.
Hilarious that you think being in a Jarmusch film pays well. If Bill Murry were doing things for money, this is not what he would be doing.
Jesus, less of the faffing about and call a spade a spade, it's a bad movie. A terribly bad movie.
Wi-fiiiiiiiiìiiiii.......
A zombie film about nothing. This will be ending badly. And some nudity and Wi-fiiiiiiii? The movie is all about dead-pan humor!
Awful film.
Slow, up its own ass.
Trying too hard to be a Wes Anderson movie.
Love the cast, terrible movie.
Cant agree more. Its too slow
There is something rotten in the state of zombie movies.
Zombies... groan
This is like the 3rd Zombie movie blaming fracking for the zombie apocalypse. I thought it was very slow and 'meta' (super inside). The movie even makes fun of itself at least 3 different times by saying 'they've read the script' or 'this is the theme song'. The movie moves so slow with no pay off during the slow parts and no pay off at the end. It was not worth even one viewing. The cast was spectacular of course, but the script was just.....yuck. It's this super hipster/meta/inside garbage. By the time the movie was over I thought, "I wonder who wrote this script? A wild animal? Or several wild animals?"
I much preferred Shaun of the Dead!
This is pants movie. Was hoping for better.
It’s boring and dull. I’m watching reviews of the movie while watching the movie I’m that bored
Hated it.
Completely unnecessary & several years too late to the party. I used to be the world's biggest zombie fan, now I'm utterly sick of them in popular culture. Nothing will ever best Romero's classic trilogy (Night, Dawn & Day).
"I was into zombies decades before it was cool"
5:44 Kermode sums it up with one noise.
So it's Shaun of the dead if it got americanised ( FUBAR )
You think maybe it's the next Tucker and Dale vs Evil, looks rubbish, unheard of but brilliant. Nope it's A list filled dross.
Hopefully I'll see it listed on TV in 3-4 years and give it a watch
This film was yawn inducing. I hope I never hear that song again
I dont actually think the writing was that bad, and the slow sedated acting wasnt bad, its just the plot was so shite.
"signposting"? Really? Please just use english. I loved this movie. I lived in it as I do most, if not all, of his movies. You want too much from this film. It is almost perfect as it is. Leave it be.
Cringe
Not bad. Just disappointing. And this coming from some who loves Jim Jarmusch
i used to think JJ was close to genius. i'm now done with him.
You have risen above the genius?
Horrible movie the people who gave it good reviews probably like country music.
Bill Murray's performance was so dead pan and so understated that it was unfunny.
This movie sucked.
Bill Murray working as a cop isn’t he 169 years old?!!!!!!!
Couldnt get through it.
"verbing wierds language"
Only thing more boring than the film was the review
This should have been a good movie but alas...it wasn't.
This film is actually an unintentional meta-commentary on our society. It shows how prominent echo chambers are in all segments of society. In this case it's how people including A list actors have convinced themselves that Jim Jarmusch is brilliant. If you don't like his movies it's because you don't get his "style". It's like a Hans Christian Andersen story run amok. Everyone knows this film is crap, but some people think it makes them look smart if they claim to "get it". These insiders reinforce each other, but meanwhile we all know they're really naked.