The other option is better: Shepard violently turns around and points a finger at TIM ''And I'm going to do exactly what you brought me back to do. I'm going to stop the Reapers without sacrificing the soul of our species.'' If only... If only Shepard would have ended with ''Joker. Lose this channel'' on that line also.
***** You do realize I'm talking about the fact that Martin Sheen did an incredibly good job at this role, I am aware Trevor is cool but you're trailing off into a different subject buddy
Yeah, but his ass was not the first to be dragged out of his chair by Shepard :D First the shadowbroker, then the illusive man, if Shepard hadn't died, he'd be kind of a god by now :D
Well, Shepard actually survives. Unless you control the reapers or if you don't play the game in a certain way that allows you to have shepard surviving the blast
@@franciszaldivar337 "Ah yes, 'nigerian prince', the dead relative allegedly sending me a trunk of 1000 karat rough diamonds." **sips wine, opens next mail** "We have dismissed that claim."
Who says I'm imagining ? These are Dark Times Ahead ,in our little Blip Of existence We've managed to not only be Seen but be heard , We must be Willing To do The Necessary , We must be Willing to make the sacrifice , To Judge and be judged ..our worth will depend on what we make it , And in the Short time We have left We can no longer Ponder on the possibility, We must Make it a reality , Humanity must take it's proper place amoung the stars , In lamens terms We must be Ready For the Apex of humanity , I for one can't wait , Eh Shepard ? I know you feel this , In every fiber of your Bieng it's in our nature to improve , To be better ..Don't tell me you'd throw that away ..For her ..For them ..Humanity must rely on itself or not at all ..you see I'm a Humanitarian Shepard , We all have our ways of righting wrongs , this is mine ,this is ours, This is my vision
The Illusive Man is by far my favorite character in the series. I love the authority he commands and simply the way he is presented in the series. He has great depth, exploring the notion of "the ends justify the means" and the idea of sacrifice. The whole time he was simply trying to protect humanity and Earth, which he loved so much. While I didn't always agree with him, he was a fantastic character and my all time favorite. Plus Martin Sheen! :)
even with the flaws at the end of mass effect 3, this trilogy is unique, a pride for video game fans. Amazing to see what bioware made, with much less power than the games today
Mass Effect should have had a story branch at the end of ME2 where you either chose to side with the Illusive Man or not, which would change the story of ME3 considerably. That would have made the games 1000x better, in my opinion.
+TheVinster17 Especially when you actually liked his argument, and Cerberus as a whole. My renegade Shepard and Illusive man would've been the best of friends, if Bioware hadn't already decided that we would become enemies. Such a load of shit.
glorilol 95 "We could establish a dynasty that would last a thousand years." The more you say it, the more I'm inclined to agree. A matter of fact, if there ever was a Mass Effect film, and the Illusive Man was in it, I'd choose Charles Dance to play as him. Or Hackett.
As far as I'm concerned, Mass Effect 2 was by far the best game in the series, and one of the best games ever made period. They got everything so right, from the visual style to the thematic tone. I loved how they handled Cerberus and the Illusive Man (even though I screwed him over every chance I got), how the characters were all a little more nuanced than they were in the other games. Mass Effect 1, they had to find their footing, and in Mass Effect 3 they had to tie together a bunch of disparate story threads, not to mention somehow write themselves out of a corner as far as the Reapers were concerned. The second game didn't have those same issues, though, and I'd argue it was the best game of last generation.
DarkNova50 Actually I find every one very good. But the ME3 was more intense than the others (my opinion). Even though the end of the second was more epic. I usually record the cutscenes and dialogues with Atube Catcher to remember of the plots and if you play the dialogues you will be surprisingly in how the story fix perfectly... even the ME3 Ending. Of course with all DLCs of the 3 games.
DarkNova50 My only big problem with Mass Effect 2 is that the final choices of Mass Effect 1 have almost no impact at all on the game. Killing the Council and having Udina lead the new entirely human council should've had more consequences than a few changed pieces of dialogue here and there.
Mass effect 2 had a much darker vibe to it, you had the shadow of a galaxy gone to shit after sovereigns surprise wake up call, the council is politically fucked, the alliance left you behind and you have to find yourself again, what matters to you, what your willing to fight for and who you can trust to give you hope after dying in space, whilst serving the ideal of a human supremacist organisation with a influential stake in every system, from council space to the terminus. that is how mass effect games should stay.. its supposed to be a dark story line that makes you feel like the character your playing...
actually the problems with ME3 are a direct result of the Main quests from ME2 not pushing the story forward in any way, they introduce the collectors, then at the end you beat them and the galaxy is returned to the state it was in at the end of ME1, the arrival DLC pushed the story forward more than ME2s Main quests did, if they had kept all the side quests and loyalty missions, but had the Main quest set up the third game the trilogy would have been better off
ME2 Illusive man was brilliant, you hated him, but respected him. As ME3 nothing made sense, and the Illusive man was no exception. He went from being a extreme pro human into a puppet, for no good reason.
TaintedMustard Having him be indoctrinated was retarded. It was to make the reapers look more powerful, rather then give character development. He honestly didn't have to be indoctrinated to want to use superior tech.
Andy Russell Plus the fact, Harbinger literally had no presence in the game other than at the end where he (debatably) only had one line of dialogue in the entire game. Cerberus popped up more than the Reapers ever did, and it was so painfully obvious they wanted TIM to be the main villain. It was so irritating.
+Andy Russell Having him be indoctrinated is fine, as long as there is build up to it and we actually see the process. Instead, the Illusive Man is indoctrinated right from the start, with no reason behind it and seemingly (somehow) before the Reapers even reach the galaxy.
Right? Even ME2 TIM wasn't anti alien. He saw the merits in using Krogans and the Geth and Quarians against the Reapers and was disturbed by the potential for a renewed Rannoch war. Sure you could argue his primary motivarion woukd be less human casualties in thise instances, but the other races would have done the same as well. ME3 TIM threw all of his pros and cons out the window and poorly focused on his need to control things. I have no issue with him being indoctrinated as the game goes on, or him advocating control, but goddamn his arc deserved better then what he got.
Honorable Judge they needed a generic villain to satisfy those who bought the game expecting a 6 hour action game. but i don't blame bioware for flushing mass effect down the toilet for the money, it's just business. i mean if i was a piss poor writer and i knew i couldn't write another good story to save my life, i'd start appealing to a different audience too
Oi there, I never said ME 3 was bad did I? I think it was a good story, and while I don't agree with Cerberus' convertion to a secondary main villian, they managed to pack the punch. The only thing that ever disappointed me with ME 3 was their "master work of endings".
Oh TIM, WHAT have you become...? You were supposed to stand BETWEEN humanity and the Reapers, not upon the grave of our galaxy! You are literally a shattered reflection of the man you once were (Concept art shows that his Reaper implants were intended to look like a cracked mirror.)
Every time I hear this, I think- is this it? This can't be all that humanity can be. We are more than this- squabbling, cruel, narcissistic, superstitious hominids- and if we truly embrace what we are, there is no doubt we can reach the standards that the sci-fi greats have set for us. We only have to go out and achieve them.
Everytime you hear this? If you think Cerberus is the pinnacle of humanity then I'd suggest reading more about their history and actions and then tell me they're what humanity should aspire to be.
I was told about Mass Effect by several friends of mine and had decided to try it out. The moment The Illusive Man appeared I fell in love with the character almost instantly. I fell in love with his theme music just as quickly. This is such a perfect theme for such a very mysterious, secretive, complex, and (as his name suggests) Illusive character. Many thanks to Bioware for creating such an awesome villain.
The Illusive Man has to be one of the most enigmatic villains (or should i say characters?) iv'e ever encountered in a game. There's so much mystery and intrigue about him and at the same time, he's a major part of the story.
Aquafreshqa Played ME1. replayed ME1 when ME2 came out (then made multiple replays of ME2 ). Replayed both before ME3 came out. Replayed whole series once more after buying all ME3 DLCs. :D
For me, Mass Effect 2 was the best of the series. The first one's saving grace was its story, but the gameplay was overly-complicated, the side-quests were boring and repetitive, and game mechanics were largely broken. Mass Effect 3 was just...I cannot summarize that bullshit. All I can say is that I hated ME3 the most. The only redeeming quality of that game was the Citadel DLC.
+PressAForStupidity mass effect 1 was pretty good, but not great. mainly because of the broken mechanics, ME2 was one of the best joyrides of my life from start to finish. easily one of the top 5 games ever made in my opinion, and ME2 is higher rated than both 3 and 1, so most others think so too.
The Illusive Man is right about controlling the Reapers. It's hard to understand the meaning in all his decisions in the game. And this music fits to him. He is mysterious. And his eyes...
is it the right choice though? like i know shepard will be fully in charge of the reapers and everything. but shepard is still human... no one is perfect... he has cheated, lied, and spread violence in all of the games. he is an extroidinary human, but eventually he will wear out. just saying... it doesn't seem like a permanent solution at all.
MitchTitan well, it's not the best solution, but the best of the four, the reapers harvest must stop, destroying the reapers would be the biggest mistake( they contain all previous races), and i dont want to live as some synthetic-hibrid thing. It's not a good solution, but the only acceptable one. And yeah Shepard is a jerk, throwing a house-party in a galactical war
Destroy is the best option... Destroying the Reapers was what we set out to do in ME1, ME2, and for all but 3 minutes of ME3. Destroy is true to Shepard and the Alliance. Even Cerberus wanted to destroy the Reapers at one point. Synthesis is surrender and control is a cop-out. The only good Reaper is a dead Reaper.
Suelenas It is staying true to the ultimate goal that was started in ME1. It is the ending that stays true to the previous two games. All Shepard, and the alliance, wanted was to DESTROY the Repears. They gloated and celebrated when they DESTROYED Reapers. Shepard alone DESTROYED 3 Reapers. Synthesis is Surrender, control is betrayal of your ideologies. Destroy is the Canon ending because Shepard lives, as he was and not as some Reaper AI that controls them. Destroy is staying true to the previous games and finishing what you started. It is a disservice to The Geth and Legion as well. You Liberate them from The Reapers only to join them with Reaper's again? No thank you. Better dead than Reaper. It is like if Halo 3 ended with everyone singing Kum-Ba-Yah. It would be a total disservice to the previous events in the timeline...which was to achieve victory, not compromise or surrender.
I find it sad how hard it is to find music from these games that doesn't bring you to tears or feel like you need air and then what I manage to find that isn't sad is this soundtrack.... Thanks so much for uploading though!
the illusive man is your Store Manager. you can bust your ass for a company if you want, and your Supervisors still won't like your work. but at the end of the day you're brought to The Ilusive Man and he will know your value and tell you to keep doin what you're doin and he'll handle the rest.
Honestly, I hope that what we saw at the end of me3 wasn't him, just indoctrinations or Anderson, and IM Marten Sheen did such a damn fine job on making this character so great. I wished he wasn't the true antagonist for me3, but oh well
Cerberus isn't just an organisation or the people behind it! Cerberus - is an idea. Lovely character, from childhood. And the music, it's so enthusiastic, and so tragic, because you think you doing it for right thing, but unfortunately it's not.
"Cerberus was supposed to be humanity's sword, not a dagger on its back!" I feel so sorry for TIM. He did want what was best for humanity, but got indoctrinated.
I never considered him to be a tragic villain until just now. Not to mention the very end of the 3rd game makes quite a bit of sense. He didn't realize he was indoctrinated until it was far too late. I'm glad he was able to break it long enough to come to terms with himself in the Paragon ending. Thank you for this insight.
I'm writing a fan fiction that I'm hoping to submit to the majestic bastards that dreamed up mass effect, and listening to this song while doing it gives me so many ideas. This is, hands down, the best song in the whole series! So inspiring!
The comic "Mass Effect: Evolution" explains the origin of the Illusive Man and his cyborg eyes. He was indirectly exposed to a Reaper artifact during the First Contact War called "The Monolith", which infuses cybernetics into anyone that touches it.
Illusive man thoughts: OK... The Commander will have a mostly human team... He will only work with Aliens because it is necassari... What Shepard does: Fu*ks with Tali, stopped project overlord, blew up the Collector Base, kills Kai Leng, Stopps his plan to take over the Citadel, sits on his Chair, shoots him while talking, and Controlls the Reapers in the End by him self... Well... I think now the Illusive man had just the worst Year of his Life...
I once said that Mass Effect 2 is the best of the series, now I believe that Mass Effect (1) is the best, however soundtracks & story rewards go to Mass Effect 2
Remember how hesiant i was to play ME2 back in 2011 cos i thought that nothing can top ME, and letting installed to rest on my HD for almost one year until i decided give it a try... best story ever!!!...
I remember being ruthless as fuck against everything and anything in ME2. The moment T.I.M asked me to save the base and kill the collectors was the moment I said fuck woking for this dude. Only time I ever made a paragon decision in my renegade playthroughs
Kudos to being someone who took personally responsibility and admitted to being wrong on the internet. You deserve a medal for this. No I am not being sarcastic.
Have you played Mass Effect? That isn't necessarily a spoiler for you as it is only a possible outcome: not a given one. The canon is what you make it and it's not like you know beforehand that his suicide will be a result of any if you choices.
‘I brought you back to stop the reapers!’ ‘And I’m going to do exactly what you brought me back to do; I’m going to stop the reapers, but I’ll do it without sacrificing the soul of our species’
The only people who can sympathize with Cerberus are the ones who never played Mass Effect 1. Or the ones who are just human supremacists, but even then Cerberus is hardly trying to help humanity as a whole. They're just looking to get power through control. Trying to control Thresher Maws, Thorian Creepers, Racchni, Husks, Reapers, even Humans themselves. The Illusive Man is full of shit.
And even for some people who did play Mass Effect 1 actually, I know a few people who have played Mass Effect 1 and didn't do any of the Cerberus missions. They just raced through the main quest.
he's more like a tragic villain than a full blown villain. why? because his only goal was the advancement of humanity in a hostile galaxy, what drove him into commiting villainous acts was the fact that he didn't care about the consequences of his actions as long as they helped achieve his goal...in the end jack harper (illusive man) was human like the rest of us consumed by his own ambition
As sad as it is, I think TIM's ultimate purpose was to become indoctrinated. If he hadn't, Cerberus would still want to destroy the Reapers and I do not believe Shepard would ever choose to control them at the end of ME3 if the idea hadn't been presented by TIM. In a way TIM sacrificed himself so that Shepard had the choice to control all reapers.
![Mass Effect 2 - New Worlds Theme [Extended 30 mins]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Uc32TpW7Zpw/mqdefault.jpg)
"Don't turn your back on me Shepard! I made you, I brought you back from the dead!"
"Joker. Lose this channel."
Your profile pic looks like what Shepard sees when he opens the front camera on his phone by accident.
The other option is better: Shepard violently turns around and points a finger at TIM ''And I'm going to do exactly what you brought me back to do. I'm going to stop the Reapers without sacrificing the soul of our species.'' If only... If only Shepard would have ended with ''Joker. Lose this channel'' on that line also.
"Would have been better for your if you hadn't"
Martin Sheen as the Illusive Man was friggin awesome!!!
***** You do realize I'm talking about the fact that Martin Sheen did an incredibly good job at this role, I am aware Trevor is cool but you're trailing off into a different subject buddy
Wait Charlie sheen's dad!!!
imagine yourself as illusive man....standing alone in that holografic room and looking at the dying star with this theme ...epic ;)
Yeah, but his ass was not the first to be dragged out of his chair by Shepard :D First the shadowbroker, then the illusive man, if Shepard hadn't died, he'd be kind of a god by now :D
Well, Shepard actually survives. Unless you control the reapers or if you don't play the game in a certain way that allows you to have shepard surviving the blast
I use this song every time I look over my mail and Facebook notices, usually with a glass of whiskey, and smoking a cigarette as I do so
@@franciszaldivar337 "Ah yes, 'nigerian prince', the dead relative allegedly sending me a trunk of 1000 karat rough diamonds." **sips wine, opens next mail** "We have dismissed that claim."
Who says I'm imagining ? These are Dark Times Ahead ,in our little Blip Of existence We've managed to not only be Seen but be heard , We must be Willing To do The Necessary , We must be Willing to make the sacrifice , To Judge and be judged ..our worth will depend on what we make it , And in the Short time We have left We can no longer Ponder on the possibility, We must Make it a reality , Humanity must take it's proper place amoung the stars , In lamens terms We must be Ready For the Apex of humanity , I for one can't wait , Eh Shepard ? I know you feel this , In every fiber of your Bieng it's in our nature to improve , To be better ..Don't tell me you'd throw that away ..For her ..For them ..Humanity must rely on itself or not at all ..you see I'm a Humanitarian Shepard , We all have our ways of righting wrongs , this is mine ,this is ours, This is my vision
The Illusive Man is by far my favorite character in the series. I love the authority he commands and simply the way he is presented in the series. He has great depth, exploring the notion of "the ends justify the means" and the idea of sacrifice. The whole time he was simply trying to protect humanity and Earth, which he loved so much. While I didn't always agree with him, he was a fantastic character and my all time favorite. Plus Martin Sheen! :)
Shepard you are making a habit of costing me more than time and money.
Sorry i'm having trouble hearing you, i'm getting a lot of bullshit on this end.
Joker, close this connection.
Oops...
Don't test my patience. The technology from that base could have secured human dominance in the galaxy, from the reapers and beyond.
S Manly Shepard: Human dominance, or just Cerberus?
@@Nubii0_23 Cerberus IS HUMANITY!
"Commander Shepard" "Illusive Man I thought we would be meeting face to face."
ShadowofBatman A necessary precaution, not unusual for people who know what you and I know.
byfirebepurged "And what is it that 'you and I know' ?"
byfirebepurged "And what is it that 'you and I know' ?"
byfirebepurged "And what is it that 'you and I know' ?"
+Bogdan Vasile That your mom is pregnant....
This is great. Sad classical music meets mystical sci fi music.
Am i the only one who feels sorry for the illusive man?
the death of illusive man make me cry
Nope. I felt sorry for him, though I found him repugnant too. In a good way, as in I enjoyed disliking him.
I felt sorry for him. Only when i found out that they actually could be controlled, and i killed him for nothing.
***** Wow... You have really changed since that whole, well, dying thing.
***** Watch who you call an A-hole. Illusive man or not, thats martin sheen you are talking about xD
even with the flaws at the end of mass effect 3, this trilogy is unique, a pride for video game fans. Amazing to see what bioware made, with much less power than the games today
So Cerberus can give the Illusive Man one giant room with a chair but can't afford a decent training program for its soldiers.....*sigh*
Training program? They have Reaper tech lol
Mass Effect should have had a story branch at the end of ME2 where you either chose to side with the Illusive Man or not, which would change the story of ME3 considerably. That would have made the games 1000x better, in my opinion.
TheVinster17 You are completely right. It would be awesome if the community made something about, a huge mod for example.
+MINTOR94 I think exactly the same thing that both of you. They could edit a "ME3 Cerberus version" in which the commannder follows the illusive man.
+TheVinster17 Especially when you actually liked his argument, and Cerberus as a whole. My renegade Shepard and Illusive man would've been the best of friends, if Bioware hadn't already decided that we would become enemies. Such a load of shit.
+MINTOR94 Kickstarter it, get Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale on board to do some voice acting.
marylain69 What about the programmers, writers etc? Oh, and Bioware owns all rights to Mass Effect. I THINK we might have a bit of an issue haha.
the illusive man...the tywin lannister of mass effect..
glorilol 95 "Lannisters do not act like fools."
glorilol 95 "We could establish a dynasty that would last a thousand years."
The more you say it, the more I'm inclined to agree. A matter of fact, if there ever was a Mass Effect film, and the Illusive Man was in it, I'd choose Charles Dance to play as him. Or Hackett.
+PressAForStupidity Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen, or Emilio Estevez would be better choices.
+PressAForStupidity Are you kidding? Martin Sheen is obviously the choice since he was the voice actor and looks pretty much like him.
ajr993 You do raise a good point.
This track gives me goosebumps. The Illusive Man is a very complex character and Martin Sheen`s voice adds a lot to the character.
As far as I'm concerned, Mass Effect 2 was by far the best game in the series, and one of the best games ever made period. They got everything so right, from the visual style to the thematic tone. I loved how they handled Cerberus and the Illusive Man (even though I screwed him over every chance I got), how the characters were all a little more nuanced than they were in the other games.
Mass Effect 1, they had to find their footing, and in Mass Effect 3 they had to tie together a bunch of disparate story threads, not to mention somehow write themselves out of a corner as far as the Reapers were concerned. The second game didn't have those same issues, though, and I'd argue it was the best game of last generation.
DarkNova50 Actually I find every one very good. But the ME3 was more intense than the others (my opinion). Even though the end of the second was more epic. I usually record the cutscenes and dialogues with Atube Catcher to remember of the plots and if you play the dialogues you will be surprisingly in how the story fix perfectly... even the ME3 Ending. Of course with all DLCs of the 3 games.
DarkNova50
My only big problem with Mass Effect 2 is that the final choices of Mass Effect 1 have almost no impact at all on the game. Killing the Council and having Udina lead the new entirely human council should've had more consequences than a few changed pieces of dialogue here and there.
Mass effect 2 had a much darker vibe to it, you had the shadow of a galaxy gone to shit after sovereigns surprise wake up call, the council is politically fucked, the alliance left you behind and you have to find yourself again, what matters to you, what your willing to fight for and who you can trust to give you hope after dying in space, whilst serving the ideal of a human supremacist organisation with a influential stake in every system, from council space to the terminus. that is how mass effect games should stay.. its supposed to be a dark story line that makes you feel like the character your playing...
actually the problems with ME3 are a direct result of the Main quests from ME2 not pushing the story forward in any way, they introduce the collectors, then at the end you beat them and the galaxy is returned to the state it was in at the end of ME1, the arrival DLC pushed the story forward more than ME2s Main quests did, if they had kept all the side quests and loyalty missions, but had the Main quest set up the third game the trilogy would have been better off
This song makes me want to just sit back smoke cigs and think of everything that has ever happened.
Basically, to be The Illusive Man.
All you're missing is a glass of bourbon, and you're there
To ponder the current events would take awhile
ME2 Illusive man was brilliant, you hated him, but respected him. As ME3 nothing made sense, and the Illusive man was no exception. He went from being a extreme pro human into a puppet, for no good reason.
Er, indoctrinated? Cerberus was all about absorbing Reaper tech from the beginning.
TaintedMustard Having him be indoctrinated was retarded. It was to make the reapers look more powerful, rather then give character development. He honestly didn't have to be indoctrinated to want to use superior tech.
Andy Russell Plus the fact, Harbinger literally had no presence in the game other than at the end where he (debatably) only had one line of dialogue in the entire game. Cerberus popped up more than the Reapers ever did, and it was so painfully obvious they wanted TIM to be the main villain. It was so irritating.
+Andy Russell Having him be indoctrinated is fine, as long as there is build up to it and we actually see the process. Instead, the Illusive Man is indoctrinated right from the start, with no reason behind it and seemingly (somehow) before the Reapers even reach the galaxy.
Right? Even ME2 TIM wasn't anti alien. He saw the merits in using Krogans and the Geth and Quarians against the Reapers and was disturbed by the potential for a renewed Rannoch war.
Sure you could argue his primary motivarion woukd be less human casualties in thise instances, but the other races would have done the same as well.
ME3 TIM threw all of his pros and cons out the window and poorly focused on his need to control things. I have no issue with him being indoctrinated as the game goes on, or him advocating control, but goddamn his arc deserved better then what he got.
Everything is so memorable about this game...
Am I the only one who liked the Illusive man right up until the end of Mass Effect 2?
To me it was up until the start of ME 3.
Honorable Judge they needed a generic villain to satisfy those who bought the game expecting a 6 hour action game.
but i don't blame bioware for flushing mass effect down the toilet for the money, it's just business. i mean if i was a piss poor writer and i knew i couldn't write another good story to save my life, i'd start appealing to a different audience too
Oi there, I never said ME 3 was bad did I? I think it was a good story, and while I don't agree with Cerberus' convertion to a secondary main villian, they managed to pack the punch. The only thing that ever disappointed me with ME 3 was their "master work of endings".
I just felt sorry for him, didn't "hate" him as such - he was indoctrinated after all.
***** He did indoctrinate him self.
Oh TIM, WHAT have you become...? You were supposed to stand BETWEEN humanity and the Reapers, not upon the grave of our galaxy! You are literally a shattered reflection of the man you once were (Concept art shows that his Reaper implants were intended to look like a cracked mirror.)
"I've warned you Shepard, dont fuck with me."
your picture is that one item every gamer strived to get at one point
Illusive Bro
Illusive dude
Paradigm Shift what's up Illusive Homie?
Every time I hear this, I think- is this it? This can't be all that humanity can be. We are more than this- squabbling, cruel, narcissistic, superstitious hominids- and if we truly embrace what we are, there is no doubt we can reach the standards that the sci-fi greats have set for us. We only have to go out and achieve them.
I too would like to see humanity actually live up to it's grand potential as opposed to the current sad state of affairs.
Seems like every year humanity goes down the shitter and wastes its potential
Everytime you hear this? If you think Cerberus is the pinnacle of humanity then I'd suggest reading more about their history and actions and then tell me they're what humanity should aspire to be.
"I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite chair in Cerberus HQ!"
The only chair that hasn't been burned lol
Nothing like a glass of whiskey and a cig to bright up your time staring at a blue decaying star eh illusive man?
R.I.P To our fallen leader! The man who would of guided yomanity to evolution!
I'm sorry this is old and it's just a typo but when I read that in a cerberus soldier voice and passed 'Yomanity' I just died XD
Found the Cerberus agent
this music really gives off a sound of mystery and peacefulness and somewhat ominous sound in its tone
A dark Autumn evening, empty streets, rain, this song, you get the idea.
I was told about Mass Effect by several friends of mine and had decided to try it out.
The moment The Illusive Man appeared I fell in love with the character almost instantly. I fell in love with his theme music just as quickly. This is such a perfect theme for such a very mysterious, secretive, complex, and (as his name suggests) Illusive character.
Many thanks to Bioware for creating such an awesome villain.
The Illusive Man has to be one of the most enigmatic villains (or should i say characters?) iv'e ever encountered in a game. There's so much mystery and intrigue about him and at the same time, he's a major part of the story.
I literally can not stop this song before it ends!
Its just so hypnotising!
Fuck... now i want to download the entire trilogy again, and when i start i have to finish ME3
I do that already. Every single year re-playing whole ME series starting 1.01.200x
Examus93 Haha glad im not alone
Aquafreshqa Played ME1. replayed ME1 when ME2 came out (then made multiple replays of ME2 ). Replayed both before ME3 came out. Replayed whole series once more after buying all ME3 DLCs. :D
Demigodish4o3 Good, I'm not the only crazy guy on earth who did exactly the same....and still I JUST WANT MORE :D
Feathil Multiplayer then?
I love this theme and I loved Illusive man. I was always on his side especially in part 2 and he's very handsome too.
Idiot he killed an entire planet
***** by what. people who have your heads
***** I like the way you think. I mean the Salvation of our race comes first, isn't that right?
I should go.
***** Besides, the Council seem to want us humans to die.
Hail Cerberus.
+Comrade Staker :)
For me, Mass Effect 2 was the best of the series. The first one's saving grace was its story, but the gameplay was overly-complicated, the side-quests were boring and repetitive, and game mechanics were largely broken. Mass Effect 3 was just...I cannot summarize that bullshit. All I can say is that I hated ME3 the most. The only redeeming quality of that game was the Citadel DLC.
+PressAForStupidity Lead writer for the first two games was let go. ME3 didn't have the same lead writer. That's why it wasn't as good.
marylain69 No wonder, then.
+PressAForStupidity what? me2 had the worst combat mechanics and balance out of the whole triology
schmeed0000 Then you haven't played ME1 once then. The gameplay in it was atrocious.
+PressAForStupidity mass effect 1 was pretty good, but not great. mainly because of the broken mechanics, ME2 was one of the best joyrides of my life from start to finish. easily one of the top 5 games ever made in my opinion, and ME2 is higher rated than both 3 and 1, so most others think so too.
There should have been an option whether or not you con stay with Cerberus
"Shepard did everything right..."
Fun fact: Martin Sheen also played as General Robert E. Lee in the 1993 movie adaptation of the book, The Killer Angels, called Gettysburg.
he was also uncle ben in the amazing spiderman :)
"I am done helping you."
"When have you actually started?"
A perfectly emblematic theme. For a man with a grand vision, but an extraordinarily flawed one. Flawed man. And flawed vision.
The Illusive Man is right about controlling the Reapers. It's hard to understand the meaning in all his decisions in the game. And this music fits to him. He is mysterious. And his eyes...
Frostarmy N7 I think you spelt wrong incorrectly.
+Frostarmy N7 When augmentations come out, i'm getting myself a pair of eyes like those - too badass.
_SiBI _
How would the contacts *glow* ?
_SiBI _
In other words you don't know.
And that's the main problem....
@@cr4yv3n I still think the eyes are reaper implants, I mean serren had the same eyes so
Chosen blue everytime. The Illusive Man was right!!!
is it the right choice though? like i know shepard will be fully in charge of the reapers and everything. but shepard is still human... no one is perfect... he has cheated, lied, and spread violence in all of the games. he is an extroidinary human, but eventually he will wear out. just saying... it doesn't seem like a permanent solution at all.
MitchTitan well, it's not the best solution, but the best of the four, the reapers harvest must stop, destroying the reapers would be the biggest mistake( they contain all previous races), and i dont want to live as some synthetic-hibrid thing. It's not a good solution, but the only acceptable one. And yeah Shepard is a jerk, throwing a house-party in a galactical war
Destroy is the best option...
Destroying the Reapers was what we set out to do in ME1, ME2, and for all but 3 minutes of ME3. Destroy is true to Shepard and the Alliance.
Even Cerberus wanted to destroy the Reapers at one point.
Synthesis is surrender and control is a cop-out.
The only good Reaper is a dead Reaper.
***** Only able to see the world down the barrel of a gun? Destroying the reapers would be the biggest mistake ever.
Suelenas
It is staying true to the ultimate goal that was started in ME1. It is the ending that stays true to the previous two games. All Shepard, and the alliance, wanted was to DESTROY the Repears. They gloated and celebrated when they DESTROYED Reapers. Shepard alone DESTROYED 3 Reapers.
Synthesis is Surrender, control is betrayal of your ideologies. Destroy is the Canon ending because Shepard lives, as he was and not as some Reaper AI that controls them.
Destroy is staying true to the previous games and finishing what you started.
It is a disservice to The Geth and Legion as well. You Liberate them from The Reapers only to join them with Reaper's again? No thank you. Better dead than Reaper.
It is like if Halo 3 ended with everyone singing Kum-Ba-Yah. It would be a total disservice to the previous events in the timeline...which was to achieve victory, not compromise or surrender.
I'm pretty sure most of Cerberus can be described with "Do the ends justify the means?"
So much time has passed and I think this one of top 3 epic OSTs in ME universe!
I find it sad how hard it is to find music from these games that doesn't bring you to tears or feel like you need air and then what I manage to find that isn't sad is this soundtrack....
Thanks so much for uploading though!
the illusive man is your Store Manager. you can bust your ass for a company if you want, and your Supervisors still won't like your work. but at the end of the day you're brought to The Ilusive Man and he will know your value and tell you to keep doin what you're doin and he'll handle the rest.
Congratulations this loop feels rather natural unlike many others
In an alternate universe Shepard would be used as that ninja guy
Honestly, I hope that what we saw at the end of me3 wasn't him, just indoctrinations or Anderson, and IM
Marten Sheen did such a damn fine job on making this character so great. I wished he wasn't the true antagonist for me3, but oh well
This chair is about the only damn thing you have left! Cerberus is finished! And so are you!
Cerberus isn't just an organisation or the people behind it! Cerberus - is an idea.
Lovely character, from childhood. And the music, it's so enthusiastic, and so tragic, because you think you doing it for right thing, but unfortunately it's not.
damn...mass effect 2's soundtrack really shits on andromeda's
Judge us not by our methods, but by what we seek to achieve.
"Cerberus was supposed to be humanity's sword, not a dagger on its back!"
I feel so sorry for TIM. He did want what was best for humanity, but got indoctrinated.
You mean Jack Harper?
The illusive mans death was so sad
I never considered him to be a tragic villain until just now. Not to mention the very end of the 3rd game makes quite a bit of sense. He didn't realize he was indoctrinated until it was far too late. I'm glad he was able to break it long enough to come to terms with himself in the Paragon ending. Thank you for this insight.
This theme randomly makes me cry
one of the most striking themes of the entire franchise, very nice!
I'm writing a fan fiction that I'm hoping to submit to the majestic bastards that dreamed up mass effect, and listening to this song while doing it gives me so many ideas. This is, hands down, the best song in the whole series! So inspiring!
The comic "Mass Effect: Evolution" explains the origin of the Illusive Man and his cyborg eyes. He was indirectly exposed to a Reaper artifact during the First Contact War called "The Monolith", which infuses cybernetics into anyone that touches it.
I FUCKING KNEW IT
so basically he's been indoctrinated since we met him
Illusive man thoughts: OK... The Commander will have a mostly human team... He will only work with Aliens because it is necassari...
What Shepard does: Fu*ks with Tali, stopped project overlord, blew up the Collector Base, kills Kai Leng, Stopps his plan to take over the Citadel, sits on his Chair, shoots him while talking, and Controlls the Reapers in the End by him self... Well... I think now the Illusive man had just the worst Year of his Life...
I once said that Mass Effect 2 is the best of the series, now I believe that Mass Effect (1) is the best, however soundtracks & story rewards go to Mass Effect 2
The tru hero of mass effect
Remember how hesiant i was to play ME2 back in 2011 cos i thought that nothing can top ME, and letting installed to rest on my HD for almost one year until i decided give it a try... best story ever!!!...
I remember being ruthless as fuck against everything and anything in ME2. The moment T.I.M asked me to save the base and kill the collectors was the moment I said fuck woking for this dude. Only time I ever made a paragon decision in my renegade playthroughs
Kudos to being someone who took personally responsibility and admitted to being wrong on the internet.
You deserve a medal for this.
No I am not being sarcastic.
When i first met the illusive man and this theme was playing in the background i know i was expecting a massive adventure... I FUCKING LOVE IT
15 people who disliked were from cerberus
but that would mean they are disliking their own bosses song
Damm you are right.My stupidity has increased.
oh
Illusive Man
Illusive man!! what are you doing here!?
MrIceCream
Screwing Reapers, dead Reapers.
on of the best mission completed music, My lovely memories.
anyone else need a cig all of a sudden?
Thanks for the upload!
I believe their "cybernetic" which can explain why Shepard's eyes go red if your renegade.
the best way to listen to this is while puffing a cig. or a joint.
One of the coolest characters in mass effect
Where you see a means to destroy. I see a way to control, Cerberus is an idea, but more than that, Cerberus is humanity!!!""
Shepard, your in my chair.
Have you played Mass Effect? That isn't necessarily a spoiler for you as it is only a possible outcome: not a given one. The canon is what you make it and it's not like you know beforehand that his suicide will be a result of any if you choices.
Oh man the feels.
‘I brought you back to stop the reapers!’
‘And I’m going to do exactly what you brought me back to do; I’m going to stop the reapers, but I’ll do it without sacrificing the soul of our species’
This is great! Good job!
We must be one!
its a good cut, thx :)
The only people who can sympathize with Cerberus are the ones who never played Mass Effect 1. Or the ones who are just human supremacists, but even then Cerberus is hardly trying to help humanity as a whole. They're just looking to get power through control. Trying to control Thresher Maws, Thorian Creepers, Racchni, Husks, Reapers, even Humans themselves. The Illusive Man is full of shit.
And even for some people who did play Mass Effect 1 actually, I know a few people who have played Mass Effect 1 and didn't do any of the Cerberus missions. They just raced through the main quest.
Until now, my favorite character in all the series.
Love it
he's more like a tragic villain than a full blown villain. why? because his only goal was the advancement of humanity in a hostile galaxy, what drove him into commiting villainous acts was the fact that he didn't care about the consequences of his actions as long as they helped achieve his goal...in the end jack harper (illusive man) was human like the rest of us consumed by his own ambition
Play this while in the XCOM base and when you talk to the XCOM Council its awesome
illusive, or elusive? this is the dilemma
His eye reminds me of a Paragon Sharingan
TIM in me3: shepard, you are sitting in my chair!
shepard: this chair is about the only thing that really belongs to you.
You admitted being wrong on the internet, and you're a better person for it.
And CoD does look like a Michael Bay movie :)
"This is a nice tune..but...Don't overstay your welcome..."
good theme to smoking xD
You're in my chair Shepard!
Oh gosh, then you probably won't want to hear that the Illusive Man is also a Romance Option.
the illusive man character is one of the best characters in the game i wish i could stay working for cerberus on ME3
Shepard it's a new day and we have you to thank for our deliverance
"That's my chair. No, seriously, you're ruining my butt groove, get up."
Going to have to give the trilogy another run real soon after listening to this.
Ohhhh no, not "one of the coolest"... "The" Coolest character in Mass Effect ;)
As sad as it is, I think TIM's ultimate purpose was to become indoctrinated. If he hadn't, Cerberus would still want to destroy the Reapers and I do not believe Shepard would ever choose to control them at the end of ME3 if the idea hadn't been presented by TIM. In a way TIM sacrificed himself so that Shepard had the choice to control all reapers.