Very interesting conversation. You guys should look into the guild boss and guild wars from Crush Them All. Ignore the graphics and focus on the gameplay. It’s exactly what you’re looking for.
I would say for the live collaborative boss, the summoners war hydra is implemented fairly well. where u have to beat different stages of difficulty to unlock the next one, meaning when u do your runs you wont be saddled with players that are far below your progression, Furthermore each player gets a damage score at the end of the run that slightly influences rewards...i think that system works well because it incentivises you to always be improving your team without making it so that if you get paired with a gigawhale you cant get decent rewards.
Would it be just repeating the already known stuff or would it be for new things once you unlock more? Can also drop it in our discord idea threads if you don't mind, discord.gg/fateless
Cold Brew is 100% correct in that some people enjoy the process more than the end result. I think this is exactly why we see some people create alt accounts in games. The challenge is the fun part. And this is of course the very same reason why games continue to expand and eventually experience power creep, there has to be something for people to do or they just get bored because they've beaten everything.
Who doesn't love a challenge right? Often times that's the bigger part as well. Takes a lot longer to figure out the solution than to solve the puzzle.
23:00 this is a great topic ive talked to alot of people in my clan who agree that if getting champs was easier, we'd prob not be playing raid as long as we did It's also why I cut back on spending alot. Im in top 50 live arena and to get high it's really just a credit card battle.
Dragonheir did the tutorial pretty well with the sparring dummy but it needed to be a bit more difficult to make sure that someone understands it as many of the challenges you could beat without using the mechanic and it had incentives to do it.
I have crazy idea. In Destiny 2 they have these weapon surges that change every week. So for that week these surges will put out an extra 25% damage. They also give a 25% weapon damage to certain weapon types for that week as well. For a Meta balance type thing what if you can give a damage boost to a certain faction or even just certain champions for that week or even rotate every few days. The damage boost can be for certain activities in the game or something. I think it would be cool in a game like Raid and champion collection games
Knowing the basics is what got me to follow CC. How to properly gear champion, how to approach X boss, etc... that's what got me watching all of HH, Ash and other CC. You should almost have a best guide to X boss contest when you release new content and in game a link to that video. "Want to know how to beat that dragon, watch YST give you all the secrets "
The interaction Boss fight could be something that each player brings 1 champion, but before that the system could ask which role you want to play, because someone could have a god-tier suppport but bad Nukers, so he would choose the support role and so on... than with the roles assigned the system matches the players.
Nice Podcast I love it:) always Running in the car on the way to work. I always here Masteries, it was not the topic, but as a mobile player i hate those mastery pages where you have to scroll hours to see everything. So please keep it on 1 screen xD Maybe you should keep the Podcasts going even after launch of the game to get actual Feedback of the CCs so that the community knows that you care about there opinions.
Live multiplayer would probably get toxic quickly, but colaborative stuff akin to, to bring it back to old school wow, like the opening of ZG, or the war effort supplies, where by playing in various parts of the game you can contribute to your side winning, or to unlocking entire new areas as a community would be amazing.
What about “Expansions”, I love the concept of them, the anticipation of waiting for them to drop. It could be a good way to keep the game fresh maybe through new campaigns and new bosses, new looks and skins?
you guys also have to keep in mind games make ut hard on purpose to not skip the tutorial so people arent restarting quicking to get the lego/champ they want you'll have to decide if you want to make it easy to do for your game
It would be cool in PvP what every week, Champions from specific "Factions" get a bonus so the meta may shift depending on which faction phase you are in. Sure, you could use the same champs you always do, but they may be at a disadvantage. Would make people at least have to think about team selection week to week.
I would love to see any of the 7 Archangels as champs, especially Michael and Gabriel. They are very powerful in all accounts of them. I think they would be a lot of fun to play.
In response to the live clan or guild boss, i came from diablo immortal and was in one of the top clans. I really lo loved the weekly reset fights where we would go in and fight the bosses as a clan and the same fights we would help lower players complete to get their rewards. The actual immortals versus shadows was fun but the scheduling requirements and set times were life killers. I would enjoy if say you had a 30 person clan and a raid required 5 players and you could get rewards x times per week and the fight takes 5 minutes. It would also be nice if a recruiting feature was in game so lower clans could form a team then try to get the pickup players. Also was a massive fan of fractured plane.
One of the most important aspects of a mobile game for many people is the ability to do things at your own pace. Of course there are always time limited things, but overall the expectation is to hit the game when you have time. Make the game you want to make, but as much as I want to play your game I play games like Raid because I don't have the time to play an MMO and raid with a guild all the time. Some things really sound like it will be a solid mobile game, but other times some of the aspects really come off as if you would really rather be making an MMO. I like the challenge idea though. Especially if it isn't a daily thing and just something different that comes up sometimes or as a tutorial.
With you on there for sure, with this "adult" life whatever that is, it's hard to find multiple hours of free time for long raids and stuff like that. Thanks for the feedback 😎
a champion that the community can test drive for a week before we have a chance to go for it would be awesome :)) or a champion the community can use for a whole month that rotates :)) those champs would be fully skilled and maxed out and we could just gear them for the month. how awesome would that be? i would love to test drive a Trunda in Raid Shadow Legends. im sure i would really go for her the next time she came up on a x15 or whatever after Ive played and felt the skills.
Thanks for the suggestion, leave it on the discord idea threads too at discord.gg/fateless. Can't promise you anything right now, but we do read them all.
This is probably better suited to Discord, but how much have you guys looked outside of the genre for ideas around gameplay tutorials and challenge modes? One thing that comes to mind is in the Mists of Pandaria WoW expansion, which had players complete challenges to show that they understood their character's role. They had bronze, silver and gold challenge modes. Something like that, which shows you have learned particular skills and can implement them, could be useful in a hero collector game. (FFXIV has a similar tutorial system for each job).
A fair bit. We're constantly on the lookout for cool features and mechanics that would fit into our game regardless of what the genre is. Granted we don't have a ton of time to play a bunch of games ourselves (wish we did), which is why community feedback and suggestions are so important.
Having multiple modes or leagues for PvP should have become standard a long time ago. I've always liked a normalised mode myself as I want to pit my wits and skill against another opponent, not pit my wallet, but I've often thought why not have a f2p league, spenders league, which has multiple tiers, a normalised mode where f2p and spender alike can play against each other with their own roster, and a pool mode, also normalised, where you pick from a set of champs but if you pick a strong champ then others are excluded from your future choices in each subsequent match in the run, or you play a series of matches and you can only use the champs from the pool once and then they are greyed out until you complete the run. In both those options you can sub out one champ for one in your own roster once you reach the final. Each mode having an open league table, and lastly one friends/clan invite mode where clans can set up competitions with their own rules and can be normalised or not. Each can have a set amount of tokens and you can buy and earn more in other parts of the game each day associated with PvP. I also thought that you could do PvE and PvP daily quests where PvP quests give rewards related to PvP and vis versa. You don't have to do either ofc, but if your focus is PvE only then why have dailies associated with PvP again vis versa. I think what upsets many people, myself included, is the feeling of being forced to do something they don't want to. To play the part/s of the game they least enjoy just to be able to do more of the part/s they do enjoy most, which takes away from the overall pleasure of playing the game and often leads to quitting altogether, especially early on before you invest too much time and/or money into it. Player retention is just as important as total weekly downloads, which is finite. I hate being forced to do 3x3 to get FW keys. I hate that I have to do PvP every day to improve my PvE stats. Let me choose what parts I want to play, associate the quests/missions accordingly and I will be more inclined to spend because I feel as though I'm not having my arm twisted into anything and resenting it, that I'm being respected as an individual player in a mass people environment. I also want to be able to solo everything PvE, which Raid has cracked brilliantly to give them credit where credit is due. On this they are leading the way, with options to do harder versions of the same content in groups, with clan members and/or with friends, which conversely, they have failed at miserably, as they have no real clan/friend contact/cohesion. There could be cosmetic drops, an avatar, title, and global viewable achievements in the group versions, with perhaps a one off unique piece of gear that is cosmetically different from the regular with a very small increase in a random stat but nothing that makes it op from the solo version. You can replay it as many times as you want ofc just in case you didn't get the RNG on the stats you wanted and that makes it viable long term too imo. LOTRO did this very well. Complete solo gameplay is equally as important as group/social play. I love the feeling of achieving something on my own, that sense of YES! I DID IT, and I love the feeling of achieving things in groups to, YES! WE DID IT. Always give the player BOTH options ALL the time and you'll have a hit with every type of player who loves this genre. Just a few thought on what was talked/mentioned in this podcast.
Thank you for the extensive feedback Dharin, really appreciate it. Most of these topics are quite well covered / discussed about already and align quite well with what you're saying here. If there's something that you absolutely think we must have or do a certain way, leave it on the idea threads on discord discord.gg/fateless.
I see that you guys don't mention summoners war. They have a bunch of great game mechanics that would be very useful. Would be cool to talk to you guys about it/show you.
I am really hoping you implement seasons very much like ARPG's do. Where your legacy characters stay the same but for the seasonal or bi-annual events is like a complete reset. This allows veteran players to get a start over feel, but still feel like they are progressing their accounts and be optional but incentivised. 3 month legacy 3m option season 3m legacy only 3m optional season.
Best way right now is to be active on our discord at discord.gg/fateless. We do also have a Patreon for those who want to support us in that way www.patreon.com/FatelessGames.
I actually love the fact that you guys do these podcasts. As developers it's refreshing to see you guys actually involve potential community members in your game. And possibly pull from their ideas on how the game should play, and how you should implement things. However, I dislike the fact that all your guests are Raid cc's, or former in the case of DM lol. Maybe try to reach out to cc's from other games in the genre, and maybe allow them to bring insight into the mix with possibly different ideas and views on the game. Other than that, keep em coming, love the community interaction you guys are about in the development process.
Thanks Kevin and yeah that's a fair point. Do you have any particular person in mind? Not to toot my own horn, but podcast guest suggestions is just one more thing that we take ideas from the community for 😅
@@FatelessGames Well, I don't really follow many of the other games I have played through the years......I always seem to leave them and go solely back to Raid. Maybe Fastidious from WoR? He's kind of the first one I can think of off the top of my head.
for me I want to invest into an account for yrs of play (prefer PVE , auto play , 40 hrs a week) . Raid does PVP correct imo = no ganking like in most pvp games and/or in your face showboating after the win
The chat system in raid sucks really bad. Can you guys come up with one that is more similar to Game of War? It’s an old game I used to play. It was very easy to interact on that game. Plus it translated everything so everyone could understand each other.
If u have balanced game, pulling champion will never be so exciting as it is in Raid, because you will never pull champion that give you advantage. That is why People are spending in Raid, but the balance looks like it looks...Feature that i would love in your game is something like Orgrimmar in Wow, place where you can show of your Best gear and heroes, or some sort of Hall of fame
Thanks for the feedback Peter. I think there's a way to have the game overall quite balanced while still having desirable champs. Just need to have them not so strong that they overpower everyone else by a factor of 3.
@@FatelessGames i have Best feature for you guys and I'll sell it to you for just 100 000€. In registration let players make their own character, something like browser games Bitefight or Gladiatus, and after player level up give them skill point that they can invest into stats like HP, deff, atk etc. and create little arena for fun with marginal rewards. After you make your First bilion you can pay me off. You are welcome
@@FatelessGamesi have Best feature for you guys and I'll sell it to you for just 100 000€. In registration let players make their own character, something like browser games Bitefight or Gladiatus, and after player profile level-up give them skill point that they can invest into stats like HP, deff, atk etc. And create little arena for fun with marginal rewards. After you make your First bilion you can pay me off. You are welcome.
For this type of game i don't like live pve content that requires others to over come a challange and they need to be active for it to work. I think its way better if you can overcome something yourself and on your own time.
Thanks for the feedback Ampy. Balancing solo/group content is really important, but I think we're getting closer and closer to nailing it. Just have to wait a bit longer to see it.
@@FatelessGames by active I'm mean live directly like afk did the fight that needs a player online at that time. But the world world boss was fine you can attack when you want without anyone.
There needs to be a separation of pvp and pve. There are a ton of players that despise pvp. They almost need to be independent progression systems. WoW, RAID, and a few others combine the two and to be honest i hate it. When WoW separated the two to a decent extent it felt much better as I could play the parts of the game I enjoyed and didn't have to play the parts i didn't.
Thanks for having me on the podcast! Was great talking to all of you and diving into what makes a game the one we love to play every day
🥰🥰Any time!
I really like how many of the raid content creators are being added into this, each brining a unique perspective on what to improve / add
Thanks Justin, appreciate it. It's really crucial to get outside perspective every now and then.
I look forward to this podcast every week. Great discussion as always!
Thank you, you're too kind 🥰
Very interesting conversation. You guys should look into the guild boss and guild wars from Crush Them All. Ignore the graphics and focus on the gameplay. It’s exactly what you’re looking for.
Thanks not heard of it, will take a look
I would say for the live collaborative boss, the summoners war hydra is implemented fairly well. where u have to beat different stages of difficulty to unlock the next one, meaning when u do your runs you wont be saddled with players that are far below your progression, Furthermore each player gets a damage score at the end of the run that slightly influences rewards...i think that system works well because it incentivises you to always be improving your team without making it so that if you get paired with a gigawhale you cant get decent rewards.
Thanks for the feedback Killeranu. I think some of the team plays Summoners War a fair bit so will have a chat with them, thanks!
I was really hoping that you guys would do an hour today. I really enjoy those longer discussions.
Aw man maybe next time. Glad you like them gumpy 🥰
Freaking awesome to hang with @coldbrew! Thanks for coming man!
Was awesome man !
I think that actually a "second tutorial" a few weeks into the game, once you get to the early-midgame area could actually be pretty useful
Would it be just repeating the already known stuff or would it be for new things once you unlock more? Can also drop it in our discord idea threads if you don't mind, discord.gg/fateless
@@FatelessGames Will do, and will expound there
Cold Brew is 100% correct in that some people enjoy the process more than the end result. I think this is exactly why we see some people create alt accounts in games. The challenge is the fun part. And this is of course the very same reason why games continue to expand and eventually experience power creep, there has to be something for people to do or they just get bored because they've beaten everything.
Who doesn't love a challenge right? Often times that's the bigger part as well. Takes a lot longer to figure out the solution than to solve the puzzle.
@@FatelessGames or to figure out the BEST solution. Optimization is also fun!
💯With you on that one
Cold Brew always breaking it down to the nuts and bolts and giving us a solid opinion!
A group boss where like 5 players brings one champion to beat the boss and work as a team could be cool.
23:00 this is a great topic
ive talked to alot of people in my clan who agree that if getting champs was easier, we'd prob not be playing raid as long as we did
It's also why I cut back on spending alot. Im in top 50 live arena and to get high it's really just a credit card battle.
you can show this to Saph, it's why 5* gear is still in Hard dungeons and sin city
Dragonheir did the tutorial pretty well with the sparring dummy but it needed to be a bit more difficult to make sure that someone understands it as many of the challenges you could beat without using the mechanic and it had incentives to do it.
Loading screen with basic tips is a good way of teaching basics
I have crazy idea. In Destiny 2 they have these weapon surges that change every week. So for that week these surges will put out an extra 25% damage. They also give a 25% weapon damage to certain weapon types for that week as well. For a Meta balance type thing what if you can give a damage boost to a certain faction or even just certain champions for that week or even rotate every few days. The damage boost can be for certain activities in the game or something. I think it would be cool in a game like Raid and champion collection games
Knowing the basics is what got me to follow CC. How to properly gear champion, how to approach X boss, etc... that's what got me watching all of HH, Ash and other CC.
You should almost have a best guide to X boss contest when you release new content and in game a link to that video.
"Want to know how to beat that dragon, watch YST give you all the secrets "
Ooh interesting, sounds like fun. Thanks Nicolas, you're the best 😎
The interaction Boss fight could be something that each player brings 1 champion, but before that the system could ask which role you want to play, because someone could have a god-tier suppport but bad Nukers, so he would choose the support role and so on... than with the roles assigned the system matches the players.
Nice Podcast I love it:) always Running in the car on the way to work.
I always here Masteries, it was not the topic, but as a mobile player i hate those mastery pages where you have to scroll hours to see everything. So please keep it on 1 screen xD
Maybe you should keep the Podcasts going even after launch of the game to get actual Feedback of the CCs so that the community knows that you care about there opinions.
Yeah good idea
Live multiplayer would probably get toxic quickly, but colaborative stuff akin to, to bring it back to old school wow, like the opening of ZG, or the war effort supplies, where by playing in various parts of the game you can contribute to your side winning, or to unlocking entire new areas as a community would be amazing.
Sounds really cool, thank you Brandon. WoW really inspires us years and years later, they did a lot of things right.
What about “Expansions”, I love the concept of them, the anticipation of waiting for them to drop. It could be a good way to keep the game fresh maybe through new campaigns and new bosses, new looks and skins?
We'll certainly keep developing post release if that's what you mean. Unsure yet in what form new content will come out.
you guys also have to keep in mind games make ut hard on purpose to not skip the tutorial so people arent restarting quicking to get the lego/champ they want
you'll have to decide if you want to make it easy to do for your game
Thanks for the feedback Jerry! We're definitely considering the ups and downs of this.
Whats next for Cold Brew? CC for Fateless Game of course!
😎We're counting on it.
It would be cool in PvP what every week, Champions from specific "Factions" get a bonus so the meta may shift depending on which faction phase you are in. Sure, you could use the same champs you always do, but they may be at a disadvantage. Would make people at least have to think about team selection week to week.
Sounds cool, thank you for the suggestion Warran 🤗
I would love to see any of the 7 Archangels as champs, especially Michael and Gabriel. They are very powerful in all accounts of them. I think they would be a lot of fun to play.
This has come up before, not sure if it was you or someone else 😅. I can definitely see the appeal. Thanks for the feedback Steve, stay awesome 😎
In response to the live clan or guild boss, i came from diablo immortal and was in one of the top clans. I really lo loved the weekly reset fights where we would go in and fight the bosses as a clan and the same fights we would help lower players complete to get their rewards. The actual immortals versus shadows was fun but the scheduling requirements and set times were life killers. I would enjoy if say you had a 30 person clan and a raid required 5 players and you could get rewards x times per week and the fight takes 5 minutes. It would also be nice if a recruiting feature was in game so lower clans could form a team then try to get the pickup players. Also was a massive fan of fractured plane.
Thanks for the feedback Mark! Yeah it can be a real pain to schedule if it takes too long. We'll definitely keep this in mind, thanks again!
One of the most important aspects of a mobile game for many people is the ability to do things at your own pace. Of course there are always time limited things, but overall the expectation is to hit the game when you have time. Make the game you want to make, but as much as I want to play your game I play games like Raid because I don't have the time to play an MMO and raid with a guild all the time. Some things really sound like it will be a solid mobile game, but other times some of the aspects really come off as if you would really rather be making an MMO.
I like the challenge idea though. Especially if it isn't a daily thing and just something different that comes up sometimes or as a tutorial.
With you on there for sure, with this "adult" life whatever that is, it's hard to find multiple hours of free time for long raids and stuff like that. Thanks for the feedback 😎
I enjoy setting up the team and gear and auto running. If I have to manual much I move on.
Yeah that's fair. Thanks for the feedback plinky!
a champion that the community can test drive for a week before we have a chance to go for it would be awesome :)) or a champion the community can use for a whole month that rotates :)) those champs would be fully skilled and maxed out and we could just gear them for the month. how awesome would that be? i would love to test drive a Trunda in Raid Shadow Legends. im sure i would really go for her the next time she came up on a x15 or whatever after Ive played and felt the skills.
Thanks for the suggestion, leave it on the discord idea threads too at discord.gg/fateless. Can't promise you anything right now, but we do read them all.
This is probably better suited to Discord, but how much have you guys looked outside of the genre for ideas around gameplay tutorials and challenge modes? One thing that comes to mind is in the Mists of Pandaria WoW expansion, which had players complete challenges to show that they understood their character's role. They had bronze, silver and gold challenge modes. Something like that, which shows you have learned particular skills and can implement them, could be useful in a hero collector game. (FFXIV has a similar tutorial system for each job).
A fair bit. We're constantly on the lookout for cool features and mechanics that would fit into our game regardless of what the genre is. Granted we don't have a ton of time to play a bunch of games ourselves (wish we did), which is why community feedback and suggestions are so important.
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Having multiple modes or leagues for PvP should have become standard a long time ago. I've always liked a normalised mode myself as I want to pit my wits and skill against another opponent, not pit my wallet, but I've often thought why not have a f2p league, spenders league, which has multiple tiers, a normalised mode where f2p and spender alike can play against each other with their own roster, and a pool mode, also normalised, where you pick from a set of champs but if you pick a strong champ then others are excluded from your future choices in each subsequent match in the run, or you play a series of matches and you can only use the champs from the pool once and then they are greyed out until you complete the run. In both those options you can sub out one champ for one in your own roster once you reach the final. Each mode having an open league table, and lastly one friends/clan invite mode where clans can set up competitions with their own rules and can be normalised or not. Each can have a set amount of tokens and you can buy and earn more in other parts of the game each day associated with PvP.
I also thought that you could do PvE and PvP daily quests where PvP quests give rewards related to PvP and vis versa. You don't have to do either ofc, but if your focus is PvE only then why have dailies associated with PvP again vis versa. I think what upsets many people, myself included, is the feeling of being forced to do something they don't want to. To play the part/s of the game they least enjoy just to be able to do more of the part/s they do enjoy most, which takes away from the overall pleasure of playing the game and often leads to quitting altogether, especially early on before you invest too much time and/or money into it. Player retention is just as important as total weekly downloads, which is finite. I hate being forced to do 3x3 to get FW keys. I hate that I have to do PvP every day to improve my PvE stats. Let me choose what parts I want to play, associate the quests/missions accordingly and I will be more inclined to spend because I feel as though I'm not having my arm twisted into anything and resenting it, that I'm being respected as an individual player in a mass people environment.
I also want to be able to solo everything PvE, which Raid has cracked brilliantly to give them credit where credit is due. On this they are leading the way, with options to do harder versions of the same content in groups, with clan members and/or with friends, which conversely, they have failed at miserably, as they have no real clan/friend contact/cohesion. There could be cosmetic drops, an avatar, title, and global viewable achievements in the group versions, with perhaps a one off unique piece of gear that is cosmetically different from the regular with a very small increase in a random stat but nothing that makes it op from the solo version. You can replay it as many times as you want ofc just in case you didn't get the RNG on the stats you wanted and that makes it viable long term too imo. LOTRO did this very well. Complete solo gameplay is equally as important as group/social play. I love the feeling of achieving something on my own, that sense of YES! I DID IT, and I love the feeling of achieving things in groups to, YES! WE DID IT. Always give the player BOTH options ALL the time and you'll have a hit with every type of player who loves this genre. Just a few thought on what was talked/mentioned in this podcast.
Thank you for the extensive feedback Dharin, really appreciate it. Most of these topics are quite well covered / discussed about already and align quite well with what you're saying here. If there's something that you absolutely think we must have or do a certain way, leave it on the idea threads on discord discord.gg/fateless.
I see that you guys don't mention summoners war. They have a bunch of great game mechanics that would be very useful. Would be cool to talk to you guys about it/show you.
I am really hoping you implement seasons very much like ARPG's do. Where your legacy characters stay the same but for the seasonal or bi-annual events is like a complete reset. This allows veteran players to get a start over feel, but still feel like they are progressing their accounts and be optional but incentivised. 3 month legacy 3m option season 3m legacy only 3m optional season.
What is the best way to get more information on this project/be a part of the community that helps with alpha/beta ect?
Best way right now is to be active on our discord at discord.gg/fateless. We do also have a Patreon for those who want to support us in that way www.patreon.com/FatelessGames.
This game is going to be good
🥰Thanks Lentz you're too kind.
League TFT had that mode, where enemies would invade your pre-made partners bord if you failed to kill them. Maybe a way to implement Multiplayer?
Yeah maybe 🤔. Drop it on our discord idea threads if you don't mind so more people get to see. Gamemode ideas are always welcome.
I actually love the fact that you guys do these podcasts. As developers it's refreshing to see you guys actually involve potential community members in your game. And possibly pull from their ideas on how the game should play, and how you should implement things. However, I dislike the fact that all your guests are Raid cc's, or former in the case of DM lol. Maybe try to reach out to cc's from other games in the genre, and maybe allow them to bring insight into the mix with possibly different ideas and views on the game. Other than that, keep em coming, love the community interaction you guys are about in the development process.
Thanks Kevin and yeah that's a fair point. Do you have any particular person in mind? Not to toot my own horn, but podcast guest suggestions is just one more thing that we take ideas from the community for 😅
@@FatelessGames Well, I don't really follow many of the other games I have played through the years......I always seem to leave them and go solely back to Raid. Maybe Fastidious from WoR? He's kind of the first one I can think of off the top of my head.
for me I want to invest into an account for yrs of play (prefer PVE , auto play , 40 hrs a week) . Raid does PVP correct imo = no ganking like in most pvp games and/or in your face showboating after the win
Interacting with your opponent isn't usually filled with the most wholesome messages from what I've seen that's for sure.
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The chat system in raid sucks really bad. Can you guys come up with one that is more similar to Game of War? It’s an old game I used to play. It was very easy to interact on that game. Plus it translated everything so everyone could understand each other.
It would also be fun to chat with your opponents while you’re playing each other.
We definitely have a decent focus on improving communication with other players and clan mates.
If u have balanced game, pulling champion will never be so exciting as it is in Raid, because you will never pull champion that give you advantage. That is why People are spending in Raid, but the balance looks like it looks...Feature that i would love in your game is something like Orgrimmar in Wow, place where you can show of your Best gear and heroes, or some sort of Hall of fame
Thanks for the feedback Peter. I think there's a way to have the game overall quite balanced while still having desirable champs. Just need to have them not so strong that they overpower everyone else by a factor of 3.
@@FatelessGames i have Best feature for you guys and I'll sell it to you for just 100 000€. In registration let players make their own character, something like browser games Bitefight or Gladiatus, and after player level up give them skill point that they can invest into stats like HP, deff, atk etc. and create little arena for fun with marginal rewards. After you make your First bilion you can pay me off. You are welcome
@@FatelessGamesi have Best feature for you guys and I'll sell it to you for just 100 000€. In registration let players make their own character, something like browser games Bitefight or Gladiatus, and after player profile level-up give them skill point that they can invest into stats like HP, deff, atk etc. And create little arena for fun with marginal rewards. After you make your First bilion you can pay me off. You are welcome.
For this type of game i don't like live pve content that requires others to over come a challange and they need to be active for it to work. I think its way better if you can overcome something yourself and on your own time.
Thanks for the feedback Ampy. Balancing solo/group content is really important, but I think we're getting closer and closer to nailing it. Just have to wait a bit longer to see it.
@@FatelessGames by active I'm mean live directly like afk did the fight that needs a player online at that time. But the world world boss was fine you can attack when you want without anyone.
There needs to be a separation of pvp and pve. There are a ton of players that despise pvp. They almost need to be independent progression systems. WoW, RAID, and a few others combine the two and to be honest i hate it. When WoW separated the two to a decent extent it felt much better as I could play the parts of the game I enjoyed and didn't have to play the parts i didn't.
Nothing new lots of games allow more peeps to help on the bosses its way better that way !!