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I also love the fact how Zuko stealthed though a Dai Lee facility to try to achieve his current believed destiny…and Iroh ALSO stealthed though a Dai Lee facility to give Zuko a important life lesson.
I just love the image of Iroh going all Splinter Cell to help his nephew.
Yes, and not even in disguise lol. Just Mushi the tea master coming through.
I don't wanna be rude, But just friendly. It's Dai Li. Again just trying to be friendly
_Zuko_ snuck around. For all we know, Iroh just kicked ass throughout his trip to Zuko
That sounds impressive, but it's a lot less so when you consider all of the available Dai Li were fighting the avatar gang
i always thought he pulled some white lotus strings
For the "Water healing weakening brainwashing" scene, I just thought it was only for pain relief so Jet could continue pushing through his memory on his own.
that would make more sense, honestly, or knowing that the brainwashing was caused by bending maybe Katara's spirit water healing was perectly viable to remove it?
@@JintarOem Katara was still using regular water, though. She kept that Spirit Oasis Water in reserve for when things get REALLY bad (which was a smart move).
That said, had Katara used said water, she might have been able to completely erase Jet's conditioning.
I think similarly, I think that water healing in this scene heals mental, not physical, damage.
@@JintarOem The brain washing wasn't caused by bending though?
Me too
Toph Vs Dai Lee is a very underrated scene. It was probably the first time she actually fought really good Earth benders and she still held her own while being outnumbered.
I think the boulder was an incredible earth bender
@@sebman1235 Yeah, those guys might've been clowns but they were shown to actually be pretty skilled earth benders
@@sebman1235 i think he was more physical might over everything, his tecnique was really lacking for an actual warrior capable earthbender, he probably would match a single dai li (these guys arent that big deal anyway, theyre overhyped and just have the neat rock gauntlet thing going) but would probably be bodied by a single squad easily.
Toph throwing rock?
@@unkindled6410the boulder had the might, the Dai Li agents had the technique and teamwork down.
I feel like the only time Toph gets "successfully lied to" was when Azula called herself a 400ft tall purple platypus bear.
Yeh, but Azula is an absolute sociopath. Lying is completely natural to her, so there is no biological reaction from her body. No fast heartbeat, no quick breathing, nothing
I feel like this is so obvious to a guy like him it's not even worth mentioning. Since it's like, an actual talking point in the episode.
With wings dont forget the wings
She doesn't specifically say Azula successfully lied to her. She says "ok, I admit it, you're good", that could mean that it was just a bit harder for her to detect it.
@@nirnaron1428 She'd be more cocky if that was the case
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"There's no way ice could dig into stone or brick like this, it'd just break, right?" -- someone on the bridge of the Titanic, 1912, probably
Lmao
You are a goddam legend
This is funny
😭😭 gold
I think Katara had such a violent reaction to Jet because she was so thoroughly charmed by him last time, to the point that she was turned against her own brother. She obviously hates feeling weak.
More or less the same reason why she, out of the entire Team, was the most dismissive of Zuko as an ally. Katara doesn't take betrayals well.
One thing you might've missed: as being reunited with appa, sokka, Katara and aang all hug appa. Toph, being the flying hating, not so deeply connected to appa one, but still glad to finally meet him she pets his nose.
It also makes sense that if she feels responsible for letting Appa be captured, she would approach him wanting to show that regret. Petting his nose -and looking into his eye- is the exact way I would imagine her apologizing to Appa and it feels like a small character moment for them. Edit: I forgot Toph is blind lol
@@CharlieQuartz Does Toph even know where his eyes are?
@@Weesee_I she can feel the vibrations of living beings so she probably has a good idea of not just where his eyes are but every organ in his body.
@@CharlieQuartzI wonder what the vibration of eyes feel like 0.o
@@kennedystapleton2279 it's probably just blinking lmao
Jet's death was rough. Toph's "he's lying" was real powerful.
so you saying that Jet's dead was rough, buddy ?
“You can’t make me cry by having Toph say two words!”
Here's a meme I thought of fanbase did jet just die developers you know it was really unclear
Can we appreciate how Appa just skipped Long Feng across the lake like a stone and then immediately flopped down to cuddle a bunch of children that he's been really missing 😭
I always liked it cause dud this is a several ton pissed off sky bison there is no way you win
@@ianhogben3472Several tons? Appa is physically larger than an elephant, he’s probably over ten tons. Meaning it’s an even worse matchup.
Aang successfully lies to Toph when he says later that he completely mastered the Avatar state. The conversation took place on Appa tho so Toph might not have been able to feel it.
I thought that too. I assume vibrations don’t move through Appa’s body very well. Or even if they did, that’s gotta be a freaky experience to see inside him and further explains why Toph hates flying.
Could be, trought I think is more about concentration, if she is too far apart some bribations would be weakened so it would be difficult to catch on, that is why she puts her hand against the wall and ground, to catch the sensation better.
You can even think on it for normal people, even if you can catch the subbtles hints of liying, you won't be checking EVERYONE you come across
I think when riding on appa she can tell if Appa is lying but can’t lie detect through people to other people because multiple vibrations
@@cmqptkloacjko and imagine Appa biting heart, that must be like a DRUM
I’m fairly sure she specifically uses/needs earthbending to feel vibrations. So when she stands on anything that isn’t earth, she can’t detect any lies.
One thing i noticed when Toph says Jet is lying, it's because her lie detector works by sensing the vibration of the heart, so she can tell how Jet's heart must be going slower and slower as he approaches death. Really, if you think about it, the way she says he is lying hits so much more.
Damn bro :'(
I tear up hearing a little like 12 year old blind girl telling her friend she can tell their friend is dying
That's sad
This is horrible and I hate that it makes sense. Also not even for just Jet, random person in the home nearby? She can feel them die.
@@josephwodarczyk977 No wonder she was living in seclusion in LOK.
I think Katara's reaction to seeing Jet is pretty justified. Jet literally tried to kill her brother and an entire town of people.
I agree that her reaction makes sense - but I really don't think Jet was trying to kill Sokka.
I'm pretty sure the "Take him for a walk, a long walk" was just about keeping Sokka away while he destroyed the town.
Jet did not try to kill sokka
@@XavionofThera nah he definitely was trying to kill Sokka. “Take him for a walk, a LONG walk” I think it’s the type of walk you don’t come back from, i.e. they were taking him in the woods to off him
@@alexbones0001 I don't really interpret it that way. I think the "LONG walk" part of his statement was just signaling them to just keep him walking & occupied until the deed (with the Dam) was done.
Jet was trying to be a better person hence the move to Ba Sing Se
“Brainwashing Joo Dee is the creepiest moment of avatar”
Hama: hold my beer!
Hold my sea prunes more like
... or were they ocean cumquats?
*Hold my sea kumquats
Hama: Hold my bloodbending…
Nah even then the Joo Dee part is creepy as hell
Geez man the first time I saw the Puppetmaster, I almost shit myself.
I think the Blue Spirit is supposed to be an alternate personality for Zuko to do things that don't align with his vision of himself, not only hiding from others, but himself. Zuko, Righteous Prince of the Fire Nation, shouldn't be freeing the Avatar from Fire Nation captivity, he shouldn't be stealing to sustain himself, or committing espionage-like crimes like some dishonorable crook or spy. It's a clutch for him that let's him act out and not blame himself for them while still keeping to the false ideal he's expecting to live up to.
Throwing it away says that he's done with these falsehoods, that he'll dedicate himself to living his true life...which immediately kinda fucks Iroh over since his next significant choice is 'you know, I WILL be the fire nation Prince' and not just being himself, and it takes him awhile to learn that.
To add to that it's interesting to look at the skills Zuko uses as the Blue spirit. For much of the series Zuko is a pretty underwhelming fire bender despite being trained very well. That was one of the reasons his father thought he was worthless. But it's clear Zuko's a natural master at those swords and it's possible he could have beaten Aang in their early battles if he had used them. But he never did because the fire prince should be a master fire bender.
I actually posted something very similar to this in a different thread before finding this one. I'll post it again here for anyone interested:
I've thought for a long time about what the significance of the Blue Spirit is as well. I think you're close with the desperation thing, but I don't think that's really it. To me, it seems like it's Zuko's way of becoming someone else. Now, that sounds obvious. It's a mask, after all. But it's more than just a physical mask. It's a mask for his mind. Zuko often hates who he is and what his life has become. Sometimes he needs to actively fight against his home country, which he still loves. When he needs to deal with these things, he needs to become a different person, mentally, to handle it. Zuko leaving the mask behind is him finally accepting his life and who he is. It doesn't mean that he thinks his life is perfect and won't do anything to try to change it, but it does mean that he has decided to stop hiding behind the mask and live as Zuko, not the Blue Spirit.
Yes, because it is *literally a mask*. What do you use masks for (pre-2020)? To hide yourself from others and yourself.
@@kyubi78 Some good observation regarding the skills he employs in different situations. Zuko is a very competent bender after his years traveling with Iroh and learning but he's no prodigy. He's no 1-on-1 match for his two father figures, even by the time of the final Agni Kai the royal brothers of the fire nation are just on another level of skill and training. He's had to work for every ounce of bending skill he has. He had to seek out the enlightenment from the last Dragons that Iroh once sought.
The blades seemingly come natural to him. He explicitly preaches the philosophy that the weapons themselves are merely extensions of the body. He handles a difficult weapon as a master at a young age. He flows like a water bender, smooth and serene. In my head that's part of why the spirit is blue, it represents his dual nature. The kind-hearted, go-with-the-flow kid he was, and the doggedly determined, shunned Prince of the Fire Nation meet within this persona where he can more easily execute his will without judgement. When he finally relinquishes the mask he's accepting this part of himself. Unfortunately, he has yet to unify his two halves at this point in the story and goes on to betray Iroh but that just leads to even greater growth when the guilt sets in.
I thought the excaxt same thing
I love how even in exile, iroh always referred to zuko as prince zuko. That shit is wholesome
Technically he wasn't disinherited by Ozai until he declared himself the Phoenix King, really. So it is still truthful to call him Prince.
I think its awesome that the guys had to spend whole episodes trying to figure out who has appa.
Zuko just straight off the bat figures out that the Dai li took him and finds one to interrogate.
Shows how Zuko and Azula know court politics far better than the Gaang
Now imagine if ozi was a good parent and zuko and azula were very close to each other. That kind of skill as a team is a scary idea alone.
@@Brixujel_Rimulex there's a fanfiction where the fire nation and water tribes switched places narratively, with Zuko and Azula take the place of Katara and Soka.
Weirdly enough, they managed to keep Katara's personality the same, but transfered Azula's manipulativeness to her(In a mirror to Azula's first line they have a water tribe ship captain do the "the tides will delay us", but instead of a threat Katara gives a short speech about how her father gave him the position due to how skilled he was, to which he pleges to get them to the destination sooner than expected. Then she demands from another person to get one of the bottom rung soldiers to practice blood bending on).
Also instead of an ash rain, the sign of the water tribe attacking is the water line pulling away, like what happens before a tsunami...
@@the_last_ballad I've read that fanfiction and oh my gosh its such a good read. being able to take the same characters and place them in different roles of the story never gets old
@@the_last_ballad That sounds awesome! Where can I read it?
@@the_last_ballad Mind dropping a link? 👀
"Sir they recked the house."
"......Fuck."
Nearly died laughing🤣🤣🤣🤣
same
The best part is, she blows the side of the house off and then casually walks through the door with the rest of the Gaang.
Now someone needs to do all the paper work to get it fixed
*Wrecked
It would have been so cool to have that in the actual show
About the Blue Spirit - The mask resembles a mask that was made to look angry when looks at from below, and smiling when looking from above. I think it’s a representation of Zuko’s development, considering the fact the both the first and last sighting of the blue mask are a pivotal stage for his character.
I think he wears it whenever he cant be himself, not just in the literal sense that he could get in trouble if his actions as the blue spirit were connected to his identity, but also when his actions dont align with his own moral code.
The first time he uses it he frees the avatar because he deems it as necessary, even though at that point he wants nothing more than to capture him. Here he wears the mask after he picks up his persuit of the aang even though already started to realize that this isnt his way and then discards it when he decides to commit to his own self
don't think it's desperation, the blue spirit is tyrannical fire nation prince Zuko, he frees Ang because if he doesn't capture him then he stays exiled. When he's destitute he steals from peasants because he feels like he's above them and deserves it, and when he's tracking down Appa he's doing so to capture Ang which is why he says he has to get Appa out first. When he leaves the mask behind he moves on but at the end of the season he reverts back to what was left behind ie that part of himself that is prince Zuko of Ozai's fire nation and everything he thinks that entails. Another way to say that is when he reverts back at the end of the season what he's returning to is what the blue spirit mask means to him. It's his dark and cutthroat side, what Ozai wants him to be, when he freed Ang he was still super enamored with the fire nation, he wasn't doing it because he was a traitor but because he needed to and he also had a cutthroat hatred for Zhao, but from Zuko's perspective at the time he would say it was morally wrong, same thing with stealing from peasants and same thing with trying to capture Ang with Appa. That's why Iroh tells him to reject it and throw it away.
Zuko could have bought a red 🔴mask in season 3 so he would wore it to intimidate Azula in their fight for the throne.
@@bencheevers6693o.o
A little late, but whatever. I thought the mask represented Zuko’s pride/unwillingness to accept the fact that he’s not the high and mighty prince he should be.
The first time he dawns the mask it kinda seems like it’s to spite Zhou (and obviously to capture the avatar) but it’s after many scenes of Zhou disrespecting Zuko and pulling rank of like commander or something, he’s not even an admiral yet. Second time, he explicitly states that “we’re royalty, these people should give us whatever we want.” His pride was hurt, and his disconnect from his royal life was thrown in his face. I can’t for the life of me remember what happened around the next time he dawns the mask, or even if there is one before this episode, so I’ll just talk about this one. Zuko sees a potential way back to his royal life, the avatar’s bison. It’s again after the disconnect is thrown in his face, living in the lower levels, working a 9-5 (probably anyways), and he’s obviously not the happiest about it. This time however he has a bit of a better experience with it, going on a date, living in an actual house, and probably a lot less stress compared to life on the sea. Which is why when he gives up the mask, he’s happy with just serving tea with his uncle, living a simple life, a life he directly called out against while the mask was still in his hand.
I also feel like this way of thinking about makes his betrayal at the season finale hurt that much more. He was right there, he was ready to accept the fact that he could live a simple life, he didn’t have to be royalty, but the prospect of it was just to alluring to him.
Civil engineer here. Just because the entrance to the facility leads under the lake doesnt mean the underground part doesnt expand beyond the lakes perimeter. If you look in the shot where Appa's room is empty, there is clearly sunlight shining down from the hole in the roof which has been used as a viewpoint in previous shots. It's possible that a roof opening would be at the side of the lake somewhere, even quite far away, this would also make sense seeing as they may have had to lower appa into it. What doesn't make sense is the underwater drainage you alluded to earlier. Then again, the lake could be halfway up a larger hill, in which case it could drain out the side.
Another great episode, I'm really enjoying these. Thanks
It's probably for indoor plumbing. Some pipes randomly feeding in from the lake and running down to the lower levels and opening up at various points so people can draw water to wash themselves up without going above ground and jeopardizing the secrecy of the whole base, along with the obvious toilet system that's probably been downplayed. I mean the series opened up with Aang commenting about how 'everything freezes in there' when he used an outhouse at the Southern Water Tribe. Might also help with regulating the temperature underground, though that might be more of a stretch...
They also do show Appa getting trapped by Long Fang underground within Ba Sing Se. So it’s possible they have similar sets of tunnels under many parts of the city. It might even be linked to those buried ruins the finale takes place in
Yea I thought that was obvious lol
It could also be that the lake is on an aquitard (a layer of sediment which which has almost no penetration of water) and the caves are underneath it. Not that hard to imagine honestly, lakes are usually the results of aquitards.
All the water for the big city. That's how I made it make-sense to me.
I do love that Iroh and Zuko are having a moment and Appa is just there like "no, take your time, I'll just be here listening to you yell about destiny and stuff"
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I think the reason Toph is so flabbergasted by Jet's appearance is not so much by him, but because of all the damage Katara did to "catch" him and she was like "wtf did this guy do to Katara to warrant this". I mean Katara is not the type to just pick a fight.
She also probably sensed Kataras immediate attacks towards jet
In his fight against Jet, Aang immediately loses his staff.
Kinda like their first fight
that line about "The earth king has invited you to Lake Laogai" is what they call a "trigger phrase" in hypnosis, and it's kinda like a mental soft spot to get the person especially vulnerable, if you were wondering
“He’s right”
“Would you kindly”
It’s worth mentioning that, while hypnotism is a very real and scientifically measured topic of psychology, trigger words would only affect hypnotized individuals if they are already in a trace state. Also, I’m not sure if there’s any studies on how long those triggers actually last if a trance were induced hours, days, or weeks later and the trigger word were used
@@satanlucifer4437 Seeing How people in Ba sing se live in a dictatorship of sorts where the King is a Puppet, These words break them as their mind enter total despair, as they believe "no one will save them from the true Horrors".
@@satanlucifer4437 From what i have experienced anyway, nothing will happen to you if you don't want it too. Media has a tendency to make hypnosis "impossible" to beat or get out of but honestly, if you just focus a tiny bit or receive a command you don't like you will come out of trance instantly.
a detail that I enjoy is that the first time their coaxing Jet out of his brainwashing it they do it mostly by calling on his memories of hate and sorrow which are strongly entwined with his identity but cause him a great deal of suffering, but when Aang talks him down he only calls on the positive things in Jets life because Aang understands better than anyone what its like to lose everyone to the fire nation but find new family and friends in his life. And Jet snaps out of it less painfully the second time so I like to think that in that moment he really broke through to Jet. Also its super cool that Jet the guy who believed the fire bender was synonymous with evil was killed by the Earth Kingdom.
Never thought of that last sentence. Wow.
The fact that people can make comments like this 20 years after the show had aired is truly mind blowing. This show has so much to offer, that people can add little bits and pieces of their individual interpretations and little connecting details that they noticed. And only collectively can you really see how insanely well written this show is. If this show isn’t being studied at universities than our academia is fraudulent
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I love this series dude, great analysis and fun regarding my favourite TV show
consider: Toph's ball that bounces is a rock. She's bending it back to her hand.
Probably not, but it could work.
That was my thoughts too
Or maybe they did have rubber? Natural rubber is made from the sap of a plant. Mesoamerican civilizations (Olmec, Aztec, Maya, etc) used it to make balls to play with, containers, waterproof clothing, sandals/shoe soles, etc, as early as 3000 years ago. There is no evidence they invented the whole vulcanization process, but they did at least mix the latex with sulfer to make useful rubber. The full vulcanization process consist of mixing it with sulfur and heating it.
Could just be rubber, they have car tires in the legend of korra
Yeah, i'm thinking it's a rock too, if it were a ball, she wouldn't see to catch it mid air, and it looks slightly irregular.
thank you Gert, now I can sleep at night.
(2:05) Actually yes, this is how hypnosis works a lot of the time. Unless you set up certain events to retrigger the effects, they'll gradually fade over time, especially without retrancing. Trigger words and phrases can give a huge boost to it and make it function nearly as effectively as when it was first applied, it's like a shortcut reapplication of the effects.
On the flipside, it IS possible to completely block hypnosis triggers through force of will.
@@CrazyQuilman157 Yes and no. It's possible to block them through force of will, but it's also possible to use them to gradually erode that force of will so you don't want to block them anymore. Though it would definitely take longer than we see in the show to reach this level of effectiveness, and the environment in which it's shown to occur isn't very condusive to it.
Hypnosis and brainwashing are both fairly ambiguous with the rules. My theory is that his phrase is supposed to force people into a suggestive state so that he can implant new suggestions into the subconscious, the rest of the time they’re just following whatever program they’ve been given
What rules of brainwashing are you referring to? it's not a real life thing, so is this some universal hypnosis rules or a specific media?
@@macintosh8581 most hypnosis have the same like 2 or 3 versions of rules.
I think overly sarcastic productions talks about it
When Zuko yells and we see Appa from top down he looks like Sokka's picture of him
All the ridicule was for nothing.
At 9:56
dam i never caught that, the gang really did sokka dirty
So I think that sweepy wasn’t in on it he must have been tricked or lied to cause if he knew where Appa was Toph would have known he was lying
Wtf!! what's up slipspace?!
Or he was also brainwashed or just lied to himself
@@vanexvillas2637 i was gonna say man tf slipspace doing here
@@vanexvillas2637 howdy just enjoying Avatar one of the best shows ever
Man, tbh this is the crossover we need
It’s interesting, especially with how relieved the gaang is upon recovering appa, that only toph and sokka know that Jet’s dead. And it weirdly makes sense that toph would only tell sokka, as I honestly don’t think the other two could handle it. I don’t even know if the others ever find out
I love Toph and Sokka's growing bond (not as a ship) in the way that they add a different dynamic to the group. They're the most vulnerable in certain situations for being blind and a nonbender yet more resilient.
Lol yes they do, smeller bee and the other guy are in season 3 and mention "for jet".
@@NA1c158the other guy is longshot
@@NA1c158wait are they in season 3, did I completely forget something
@@Door227 smellerbee and Longshot show up for the invasion in the day of black sun part 1 and 2.
My theory on why the "The gang circles Jet in unison as he freaks out" scene was so creepy was because it didn't actually happen, I propose that scene took place from Jet's fragile point of mind, where he was interpreting a more mundane scenario as the creepy "gang circles Jet in unison" act.
YES! this! also that's my favorite scene
I used to hate that scene because it seems like the creators are REALLY trying to push Jet’s gang culture, but your point makes it so cool
hmm, i thought it was be ause it reminded him of being brainwashed with the lamp?
They should've made it a POV shot from Jet's eyes if this was the case
Jet’s arc is something I never thought about… he really was just trying to protect innocent people when attacking zuko. He could’ve blown up the building with zuko and iroh in it, but he didn’t. He could’ve poisoned the tea to poison them too… but he didn’t. He went in with the intent to protect the innocent.
It surprises me that recent grown up viewers still think Jet was being phony
I don't blame him, but he could probably have just.. watched them a bit more. To me it makes sense that any Fire nation defectors or 'traitors' would want to run away to Ba Sing Se for protection and to escape the war the best way possible, so even if they were fire benders they could just be wanting to live their lives in peace, which was indeed the case there. There must be other fire nation refugees in the city too, realistically speaking.
@@groynin These are the people who burned his parents alive and destroyed his entire village. I don't really blame the teenager for not being able to understand they're not trying to hurt people. Jet is shown to be headstrong and do what he thinks is necessary. It would be weird if he didn't do anything.
Jet's story is incredibly sad. He didn't deserve to die and he never lived to see the war end and probably get the chance to have a family. It was too cruel and that's what makes avatar heartbreaking.
He was fully willing to murder an entire village. He absolutely deserved to die, ten times over at least.
His actions aren't simply undone because he's tried to do better since then.
And yes, this applies to ALL characters. Even Iroh, who i like just as much as any Avatar fan.
NIGGAJET
Very true jet didn't deserve to die as his character portrayed that even thou you are burning with hatred and rage you still want better and give yourself a second chance in life. Jet would've played a huge role in ending the war as he just like the gang would've benefited from it. So sad though as he had started his way to redemption even though he was brainwashed
The shot of Longshot drawing his bow and covering the door while the gang escapes is badass. Also are we not going to mention the fact that Longshot’s only lines are in a few seconds of this episode?? It speaks so much as to what the Freedom Fighters represent. No matter how downtrodden they seem to get, they’re still there for their leader up to the very end. Just like what an Earth Kingdom general once inscribed, never give up without a fight.
I always sorta thought that he might be drawing the arrow to kill Jet more mercifully. Although that's way darker so who knows.
I never understood why he readied his bow, so it's nice to hear how you guys interpreted it
The "I missed you buddy" from Aang is such good voice acting, you can hear the tears and love coming from him.
One thing that might be obvious but i only just noticed and I'm not sure was mentioned; Zuko's hair is a REALLY good way to tell how much time has passed in the world of Avatar. It really helps you understand how much frustration Aang must have being separated from Appa for so long. I believe it's also continuous with how long it actually was supposed to be in writing. This is continuous until zuko's "long" hair phase, which never really changes.
Just a little thing I appreciated seeing!
This episode is such a good example of why Zuko never managed to capture Aang. There has to be some sort of contact info or adress on the flyer, but instead of simply going there or even coming up with some wrong hints to lure the Gaang where he wanted them to be or any other of the numerous ways he could use the situation to his advantage more easily, he goes for the most complicated idea without even thinking it through.
And the obvious holes in his plan don't even occur to him until it's too late
True though Zuko's bad plan ends up benefitting Aang amazingly. There's no other way for Appa to be released since the Gaang was almost defeated by the Dai Li.
I don't like Jet, I doubt I ever will, but watching his attempts to change as a person result in immediate and harsh results is utterly heart-breaking. I'm glad this series granted me a second look at his character, so that can feel even worse
Jet's arc actually foreshadows Zuko's arc in book 2. After claiming he's changed, he goes right back to his old ways the mere second the opportunity arises.
@@dizzydial8081 Yeah, really funny people don't see this when they adore Zuko and hate on Jet. Just. Guys. They're more similar than even THEY want to admit
ngl, i think jet is a good person. he was so traumatized and hurt from watching his family burn to death that his plan to destroy an entire village seems justified in a way.
Jet is a phenomenal side character. Love that they brought him back to have a mini redemption arc that yeah in some ways mirrors Zuko’s
Yeah I know jets not a bad character, and that’s not why I dislike him
I just think he’s annoying haha
"AND THEN WHAT?!!"
That was the moment Iroh finally made clear he's not playing around with Zuko's angst this time.
I always felt that Jet could have been a member of the team and really would have love to see his development throughout the rest of the story. Like imagine Jet with the group during Book 3 where their in enemy territory showing him that not all firebenders are pure evil plus maybe even have a battle between him and the leader of the rough rhinos that burned his village and killed his parents and instead of killing him he lets the police arrest him.
Not a bad suggestion, but that has a lot of overlap with Katara's time in the Fire Nation.
this comment written a long time ago, but in order to get past the overlap thing, if Jet was in the fire nation with the group in Book 3, maybe he can still have the confrontation with the rough rhino’s, but instead he becomes weak and scared because it takes him back to how he was as a child. it could be a good lesson for Jet to accept a weaker side of him, since we’ve seen him only as someone headstrong, stubborn, and a powerful leader. If we got to see a more feeble, childish side of him that was dormant all along, and comes out when he’s face with the people who murdered his parents and entire village, maybe it could be a good story about overcoming and accepting past pain, especially with someone who has so much unresolved feelings as Jet.
@@violeta373 ye maybe even him meeting zuko again
The writters also felt this same sentiment, and thats why in legend of korra. The young kid named Kai in the final season had a bunch of similarities to Jet, and ended up becoming a love interest and part of the team after being a “former kid thief from the earth kingdom”. Jet was a great character and a brief fan favorite, but they needed atleast one major death and he saddly fit the bill
I think Toph's "smile" at the Katara/Sokka kissing Jet banter is more like a "oooh things are getting heated" expression. Just Toph enjoying the chaos as usual.
Or she's into the thought
10:33 Does anybody else believe that Longshot is just about to mercy kill Jet in this scene? He waits for the gang to leave and draws an arrow even though there are no more Dai Lee agents present.
Holy fuck you might be right I need to rewatch that
I always took it as he is shooting up to one of the pipes to take all three of them out of there
He aims the bow upwards. Maybe he was just guarding Jet during his final moments, so that no agents can cause trouble.
The Blue Spirit is from the play "Love Amongst Dragons" which Zuko's mom took him and Azula to every year on Ember Island. This is from the Graphic Novel "The Search".
I think it symbolizes that deep down, he is a good person and actually loves some people, like his mom.
I kind of this it's the opposite, Zuko as himself is the person you're talking about, the blue spirit is tyrannical fire nation prince Zuko, he frees Ang because if he doesn't capture him then he stays exiled. When he's destitute he steals from peasants because he feels like he's above them and deserves it, and when he's tracking down Appa he's doing so to capture Ang which is why he says he has to get Appa out first. When he leaves the mask behind he moves on but at the end of the season he reverts back to what was left behind ie that part of himself that is prince Zuko of Ozai's fire nation and everything he thinks that entails. Another way to say that is when he reverts back at the end of the season what he's returning to is what the blue spirit mask means to him. It's his dark and cutthroat side, what Ozai wants him to be, when he freed Ang he was still super enamored with the fire nation, he wasn't doing it because he was a traitor but because he needed to and he also had a cutthroat hatred for Zhao, but from Zuko's perspective at the time he would say it was morally wrong, same thing with stealing from peasants and same thing with trying to capture Ang with Appa. That's why Iroh tells him to reject it and throw it away.
"Quite the leap in logic"
Judy is acting weird, everyone is acting like some sort of cult when it comes to discussing the war... Yeaaaaaah, not as far as you think.
I think it's more about the fact that we don't know how well-known the concept of brainwashing is in Avatar's world. If it is fairly unknown, then it is a bit of a leap for Sokka to just decide, "Aha! You've been brainwashed", but if it is common knowledge, at least in the form of urban legends, etc -- then it makes sense.
@@AstralBelt Sokka is a warrior. He understands mind control. It would be considered a psychological warfare tactic.
@@cynicalnitro8416 Would it, though? Would Hakoda have told little 5 year old Sokka about how sometimes people get hypnotized to think things that aren't true when they're captured as prisoners of war?
@@KairuHakubi dude, at 3, I had enough sense to know I didn't want tattoos because they could be used to identify me if I slipped up and had someone witness me doing something I shouldn't. And I also understood that today's friends are tomorrow's enemy. So yeah, I can imagine Sokka was either taught that or figured it out on his own.
@@cynicalnitro8416 What does that have to do with being or not being familiar with the concept of brainwashing?
Remember, Momo is intelligent enough to open the first cage he’s presumably ever trapped in, in a matter of moments.
He knows exactly what he’s doing at the opening.
Bro 😭
It's episodes like this, and there are tons of them in the show, that really make me go "wait that was just 20 minutes?" It's amazing how much they can put into an episode without feeling rushed or heavy handed in exposition or anything
People seem to like book 3 the best, but the cohesiveness of the plot progression and character development pushes book 2 to the top for me. Also oh my god when did this channel hit 100k???
Tbh book 3 was very fast paced as well
the drill episode got into everyone's recomended section ( thats how i found this channel too and insta wacthed all vids) so it has like 1million views after that he got like 70k subs
Book 2 is by far my favorite. Book 3 has some gem episodes, but I don't feel it ties all its themes together as nicely as 2.
@@hernaph3005 yep the drill got recommended to me too. Glad to see this guy get the attention he deserves
2 has one of the best endings for any season as well
it’s always been crazy to me that people refuse to let jet change but demand a redemption arc for azula
Who would want a redemption arc for Azula??? Giving one to Jet makes sense as he is redeemable. But Azula is literally just a sociopath and without tons of therapy she basically can NOT change.
@@bananaeclipse3324 SPOILER for the Avatar Comics:
Zuko tries to give her a chance and she betrays him multiple times, even going on to do worse things than what she did in the series. So yeah, you're right
If it wasn't for Sokka, Jet would have murdered an entire village.
What's the worst thing Azula did? Bullying Zuko? Trying to capture the Gaang?
Sure Azulas motives are different but in the end she never did something irrideemable
@@leonpaelinckconquering an entire city,trying to kill her brother,giving her father the idea to commit a genocide and even wanting to participate in it
Sure Jet tried to kill an entire town but atleast he tried to better himself,Azula just doubles down on her bad actions.
@@leonpaelinckShe conquered an entire city and gave her father the idea to burn down the entire Earth Kingdom to the ground. She even wanted to be by his side to do it too.
Not to mention, “killed” the Avater, the last beacon of hope for the war
Honestly i watch this Episode like 3 times a year and i cry every single time when aang says "i missed you buddy" and appa closes his eyes. Its just so pure and beautyfull
jets death is the most "woah woah, this is a kids show! at least put a censor bar there or something" moment in all of A:tla
Besides that one girl with Azula who can't hit anyone with her knives because of censoring
I just realized that Toph's lie detector power is mentioned when they're taking to their neighbor Pong about the Di Lee in the first episode, pretty cool to have it set up organically there and then really come to fruition here
The part about the Blue Spirit mask was really insightful. It makes me think of Azula's blue fire. In a sense, she's possessed by a "blue spirit" of her own.
In the comics, Azula said as kids, her and zuko would dress as the red and blue spirits to entertain their mum.
And in Zuko's dream in the following episode, Azula is depicted as a blue dragon while Iroh is a red dragon
The icicles could be explained away as part of bending, keeping or reinforcing the integrity of the icicles so when they impact something like stone they'll dig dig in enough to stick rather than shatter.
Not to mention that (despite not exactly applicable since RL science doesn't all that much apply to ATLA because of the magic system, so it may be invalid to say) ice can be formed in extreme conditions which changes its properties further, and technically it could argued waterbenders might be capable of forming such ice.
waterbenders can do ice4
Speed would also play a factor here. You'd be surprised what a tornado can shoot into or through a brick wall.
Just from that small scene of the daily agents, reporting back that the house has been destroyed. Makes me believe if you put some effort into it, you could assemble a small team and create your own the bridge version of the Avatar that actually lines up with the series while being simultaneously hilarious.
I've wanted an Abridged ATLA for so long 😭
I never thought about how Appa really had no good way out of his cell. My guess is that the view of the opening at the top of his cell that we see when Zuko yells is might to be a tunnel that goes straight up and out, which could make sense, but then that begs the question, where is that massive hole on the surface? I don't know, it's kinda just a hand wave.
To be fair toph did say that the tunnels under lake laogai were extensive, which could mean that that particular spot wasn't under the lake. And it's most likely how they even got appa into that cell to begin with.
It could have led to some random house or building that the dai lee used. Those tunnels looked like the extended under half the city
I learned that in Japanese plays (Kabuki, to be specific, but really in Japanese culture/folklore) the colour blue represents the evil, cunning, manipulative slippery snake. So the "blue spirit" probably represents his evil side, the side that was brainwashed into believing in a destiny an evil man wrote for him.
In fact, we see in Zuko's later dream that there's an Azula in the shape of an evil blue dragon (the Azul part in her name actually references the colour blue in languages like Portuguese, Spanish, and variants), and there's an Iroh in the shape of a red dragon (the colour red, by the way, signifies a strong sense of justice, and the characters are usually pretty aggressive like the dragon in the dream).
this also bleeds into Anime with Dragon Ball and Naruto
This gives another layer of depth to azula being accociated with the color blue
12:15 subtle detail Toph just rubs his nose a little while the other three go for full-on hugs. Makes sense, as Toph hasn't known Appa for as long but is still happy to finally see him safe again
What did Ty Lee's parents say when her mom was pregnant?
Mom: "What shall we name our beautifull child?"
Dad, not paying attention: "Try Li, there's a-"
Mom: "Oh Ty Lee sounds wonderfull! Thanks honey, you're always so creative!"
And dad never spoke of how he didn't know his kid was gonna be a girl
Yes
so thats the joke lol
She has 6 sisters doesn’t she?
Li is a Gender-neutral name, but this comment is hilarious
@@OmolonFluidDynamicsEnjoyer yeah, took me a while to get it down, but totally worth it
But what if Jet was brain washed to “help” the gang by leading them off the trail with false information unknowingly. That’s why he brought them to the stable where they would be misled to thinking Appa was out of the city
I've always thought that was the plan, also the sweepy guy was brainwashed so that's why Toph can't tell the lie
Was there another explanation?
@@SovietReunionYT in the video near the end he calls out the “jet haters” and identifies reasons why jet was a good guy. One which was him helping the gang in trying to find Appa
@@jasonmcguire2154 I don't see how that conflicts with what you wrote earlier. Jet believed he was helping the gaang find Appa, whereas in reality he was unknowingly leading them out of the city as programmed by the Dai Li.
@@SovietReunionYT sure jet believed he was doing good, but would his actions have been the same without the brainwashing? The last time he saw the gang they foiled his plan of drowning a fire nation town and was left frozen to a tree.
While coming to the city he was turning over a new leaf, but I don’t know if in forgiveness he would also be willing to aid the gang.
The way Jet died has never sat right with me, even when first seeing it as a kid. Suddenly, for that moment and that moment alone, instead of someone getting hit by earth bending and flying backwards with not even a bruise to show for it, he just falls over and died? Does it make sense that that could kill someone? Yeah. But it hasn’t and doesn’t kill anyone else for the entirety of the show, including spin offs.
Wait did jet just……. die?
You know, it was really unclear.
Avatar Extras: "Yup, He's Dead..."
Can’t wait for that episode.
Dude got hit by a mass of rock as tall as he is moving at car speeds. Yeah, he dead.
@@Mostlyharmless1985 To be fair, humans of the Avatar world are much more durable than humans of the real world. In the episode where Toph trains Aang in earthbending, she launches Sokka at least 10 feet in the air and all that happens as a result is that now Sokka is awake and annoyed, no injuries at all.
@@taelim6599 yeah also the fact that ty lee can jump 20 feet in the air like an air bender.
I binged all of Overanalyzing Avatar a couple of days ago and absolutely loved every video. I was sad to find it's incomplete but at the same time excited as it's now something to look forward to 🤣 F**k I have a sad life right now 😂
Me too
Right
Ya that was me 2 weeks ago lol. "That's rough buddy"
I get it, it just happened to me two weeks ago. I loved these videos so much that I binged the whole series YET AGAIN hahaha
We are in the same boat brotha
Overanalyzing Avatar: "This is my favorite scene in book 2"
The Tale of Iroh: "Are you sure about that?"
toph is probably surprised at Katara's sudden outburst on Jet, she's never been that charged before on anybody in front of Toph. She's probably impressed tbh
Tophs mind: GO SHUGAR QUEEN KILL HIM!!!
Jet literally tried to kill her brother I don’t blame her for being bloodlusted here
He did? I haven't seen season one for a while, but all I remember is Jet having his lackies take him on a walk. Which sounds pretty ominous but they literally just went on a walk with him.
@@James--Parker they were going to kill him on that walk
Exactly, plenty of reason not to like him despite his tragic backstory.
5:04 since the old man isnt lying (or at least toph doesn't detect it) i always figured that he just believes that since the di li told him
I legit love watching these they sum up why i love avatar so much, the attention that the creators paid to the detail, and how you notice every little detail all stuff id have missed is great keep it up
Jet: Dies
Every Avatar fan ever: That's rough buddy.
It was kinda unclear really
@@natnuss98 i can't wait for that episode
I just watched that play episode. Pure fan service in the best possible way
@@natnuss98 not really.
anyone hit by something like this should be dead.
@@florianschneider3982 woooooshhhh
4:05 Toph doesn't know Jet, so from here this perspective it might be more crazy. From her view, the compassionate Katara just attacks some random dude on the street. That's "Mouth opening" worthy IMO.
Zuko’s scream bleeding into Jet’s scream...just perfect.
Aang: Jet, I'm your friend
Are you though?
Always found that weird, but also interesting that being told about the Freedom Fighters gets his memories back and not hatred for the Fire Nation
i've gone back and forth so much on the blue spirit myself - i love the interpretation of the mask as desperation. it definitely carries a lot of rebellion in it, too. personally, i think the mask reflects Zuko's inner conflict and his inability to reconcile the fractured facets of his identity.
we see Zuko in the mask when he's acting in opposition to his own self-concept. When he needs to free the avatar, but that action is fundamentally in conflict with who he believes himself to be, he wears the blue spirit mask. when he's robbing the innocent to survive--despite the fact that he /is/ a noble and empathetic person, regardless of what his father tried to make him--he wears the blue spirit mask. and then in this episode, when he's just beginning to see himself as a normal person with a chance at a humble life and really weighing the idea of leaving his baggage behind, he needs to wear the blue spirit mask to pursue the avatar at /all/. it seems to me like he uses the blue spirit mask in order to separate himself from beliefs and desires that are too confusing to confront directly, so he can imagine them as the actions of a separate entity and not completely shatter his own perception of his identity.
it's also interesting that WHEN he feels like he needs the blue spirit mask changes over the course of the series. At the beginning, he believes the avatar is his enemy, and the distance afforded by an alter ego allows him to act as Aang's ally. In Ba Sing Se, he needs that distance to act as Aang's enemy - to do something that would have been perfectly aligned with his sense of self earlier in the series. You can actually, tangibly see his self-concept shifting from the individualism of the banished prince to the balanced, world-wisened revolutionary in ways he probably isn't even aware of yet, just by watching when he feels the need to hide from himself.
and by telling zuko to leave the blue spirit mask behind, Iroh is asking him not to hide from himself anymore - to confront his conflicting self-image, accept each part as true to who he is, and try to find the reality between them. Which leads right in to the monster of an identity crisis he has coming up...
at least, that's my current read! there's so much packed into it as a symbol, i dont think one interpretation will ever nail it all down, haha. and this was way more than i expected to write,,,
zuko, man. what can i say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
EDIT: it's shame. i think he wears the mask to protect himself when he's ashamed of what he's doing, and WHEN he feels ashamed of his actions throughout his arc is deeply revealing.
That's the most convincing analogy in regards to the Blue Spirit I've seen
Dude just wrote an essay on a blue piece of wood, I wish I could do that
Hands down great interpretation my man
@@masonjar190 (a drawing of a blue piece of wood)
Well said OP thanks for taking the time
Long Feng: "I can handle this myself"
*He couldnt*
1:06 it could be a regular rock that just lands on the floor and Toph just brings it back to her hand with earth bending.
Then wouldn’t it make some kind of dent/mark in the wall?
@@braedenmclean5304 If it’s a wall made out of cloth or some other similar material with some strength and flexibility, there’d be no dent
Something that always bothered me about this episode:
Remember how when Aang first arrived in Ba Sing Se, he could "feel" that Appa was somewhere in the city? How did he buy the whole Whale Tail Island story for even a second?
the Gaang actually arrived in Ba Sing Se before Appa though.
Time is an illusion, and so is death. He could feel appa’s presence because that was where they were going to be reunited.
He could “feel” it, but he could also be aware that it’s just wishful thinking and that his gut feeling turned out to be wrong when informed of the whole Whale Tail island deal.
7:17 The brain washing dirtied Jet’s mind, and the water bending cleaned it away from blocking his memories.
That’s how that scene worked.
Says "I’ll keep an ear out for toph not noticing when she’s being lied to" but literally 30 seconds later in the video you don’t realize that old sweepy just lied to the whole gaang😂😂🤦🏿♂️
Maybe he was mind controlled?
or he was lied to and thought he was telling the truth
They probably wouldn't tell some random janitor that they're taking him to the top secret underground base where the dai li kidnap and hypnotize civilian dissenters of the earth kingdom govt. in order to hide Appa from the Avatar so that the earth king secret service could continue to usurp the King's power.
They probably just said "we're taking him to whale tale island."
We also know that you can absolutely train yourself to lie good enough to pass Toph's lie detector test, and if anyone were to be trained like that it would probably be the Earth King's secret police force. Sure, it's not like they were specifically trained to pass _Toph's_ test, but being a good liar isn't just about passing a polygraph, either (which, btw, you can also 100% be trained how to do IRL). It's about learning how not to look nervous or too casual, either. How to control your heart rate and breathing so you don't start shaking and sweating, and controlling the tone and pitch of your voice so you sound natural for the situation. Learning all those things for passing an interrogation would likely work on Toph, especially if she's just being lied to in passing, and not by someone being thoroughly scrutinized by her.
Also, they were standing in a wood floor, and the floor does seem to have an (inconsistently written) effect on her ability to see throughout the show (and comics).
Edit: NVM, I'm dumb, it's 100% a stone floor. They do still show her being able to see while standing on wood, though, which has always confused me a bit.
"Old sweepy" was prolly just told that. He doesn't know he's lying. You have to assume the Dai Li know how to cover their tracks if they control the biggest city-state in the whole world.
I love this episode. My favorite part is when Longshot speaks for the only time in the series.
i think toph’s reaction is probably her reaction to katara going off the rails seemingly out of nowhere for her, probably makes her wonder how bad jet had to be for katara to do that
"I'll keep an ear out for people successfully lying to Toph without her noticing"
**Proceeds to conclude that Old Sweepy was lying about who took Appa while Toph is in the room**
Maybe that guy was brainwashed too.
I think the old man isn’t dai lee, but is also brainwashed, or Toph would have been able to tell he was lying
Or he himself was lied to. The people he overheard could have deliberately said that where he would overhear it.
I think he was told that it was a noble from whale tail island or whatever and wasn't paid enough to question it or care about it
makes sense
Apparently comics made it canonical that he's an agent of Dai Lee who messed up his last mission
"i'll keep an ear out for liars that Toph doesn't catch"
Immediately accuses poor old sweeping man of being a liar when Toph is standing in the room and doesn't bring it up at all.
Frankly, I think it is more likely that the guy was fed a line by the Dai Li rather than an agent himself.
Overanalyzing Avatar: Makes an entire video with multiple different talking points
Comments: Tophs robber ball tho
yes very important
(also people just scroll down and comment while they watch the rest)
not gonna lie this is probably my favourite episode you've produced so far. Iroh and Zuko's scene of "what do YOU want?" was probably my favourite in book 2 as well - hell its one of the clips i first looked for due to the emotion in Iroh's voice.
You added so many good jokes in this episode and the analysis on Jet and Zuko's blue spirit mask were so cool, I'd love to see more of that in the future!
At 11:40 after Iroh says he thinks that people can change and believes in second chances he also looks at Zuko as if to say that he too can change himself and the destiny he thinks he has
6:18 I love how you mention this.
Every viewing (even as a kid) that shot felt weird as fuck.
I always read the Blue Spirit as Zuko's disguise when he wanted to do something that went against what was expected of him. To do what HE wanted to do.
Book 1 Blue Spirit went against what the Fire Nation/Ozai wanted from its prince. Freeing the Avatar.
But this Blue Spirit is going against what Iroh wanted Zuko to do. Not saying Iroh was putting pressure on Zuko in an unfair way, but that was Zuko's perception.
When Zuko let's go of the Blue Spirit, it's his way of letting go of worrying about going against the grain and deciding to think and do for himself. To do what HE wants to do, instead of hiding from external pressure. If he didn't get rid of this need to hide his true motivations here, I'd imagine he would have worn the Blue Spirit mask when he confronted Ozai on the Day of Black Sun.
5:08 There's actually a theory that old sweepy is a retired dai lee agent who is being brainwashed into thinking this or was told this without knowing the truth of what happened. That's also probably why Toph doesn't catch his lie - just like Jet, he thinks he's telling the truth
or he could just be lied to by the dai lee
There’s no way the gaang wouldn’t tell Toph about their adventures. I think she did know who Jet was. Love the channel tho, can’t wait for season 3.
I found your channel literally yesterday and binged every single episode in less than 24 hours. You are so entertaining with this stuff and deserve every subscriber you get. I am sick with covid right now, so I gotta thank you for keeping me entertained in this trying time. Can't wait for the next episode!
0:50 - "I'll be taking donations to help me get through this trying time" - Casually sneaks the Patreon link into the top right card.
"...I'll be fine."
"He's lying."
One of my favorite moments in the show.
imo it would have made it even better if Sokka said "Then he will die as he lived (a liar)"
Same here. I love those two lines so much. ESPECIALLY as a child who couldn't comprehend death. I may not have been the biggest fan of Jet, but even I knew the poor bastard deserved better.
@@eledile1621 no
lie down
try not to cry
cry a lot
@@NobleVagabond2552 why not?
Wow a missed "Jerry These Are Load Bearing Walls!" moment when Toph takes out the wall, maybe that doesn't play to this crowd though.
I've always wondered where the load bearing wall reference came from
I love how people talk about Toph being lied to by Azula but like she was lied to by the Dai Li agent immediately after the power was introduced
4:10 it depends on if water benders are able to bend pure ice aswell. If thats the case its very realistic that katara, at this point, with her skill, just keeps up the crystalized structure of the ice while driving it in the stone
You remember that bit in the Northern Water Tribe where Katara was throwing ice disks, or how when confronted the guy who killed her mother she let the ice spikes hang there in the air?
Yeah, she can totally control solid ice.
that is not his point, he's saying that it's impossible for ice to stick into stone. Imagine trying to use a piece of chalk to puncture the sidewalk. That just doesn't happen, because chalk is so much softer than stone. In the same way the ice shards should have shattered when they hit the wall. The only way for them to stay in the wall would be if they dug into it, but brick, mortar, or even clay are way too hard.
@@irakyl yes but if you could keep that chalks structure in shape it would suddenly become really hard.
I really hope when jet dies he uses the ember island play where Zuko asks if jet just died
Edit: my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Well he didnt so
He didn’t
That would have been too predictable, notice how he treats the jokes about cabbage man
Lmao
@@chokovok7231 who?
Avatar was already my favourite tv show ever, but watching this channel makes me somehow like it even appreciate it even more, hearing things you spotted that I hadn't, the show just keeps giving
Okay something i've been curious about but waiting until Jet was back to ask was like, how does he store his swords? do we ever see them sheathed? how would you even sheath a hooked blade? is it a hook or leather loop + clasp thing? he's always just carrying them
Lol these are the big questions Iroh was talking about
Always assumed it wzs only attacked at the level of the guard
The skylight could be like a chimney going all the way to the lake's surface. And while it doesn't really look like it, it could be big enough for Appa to fit through. That's probably what they were going for I mean it's not like them to miss such a detail. big fan btw.
Which raises a follow-up question about the wisdom of installing an exhaust vent the size of a womp rat leading directly into the core of your death star.
Oh wait, wrong franchise.
It probably isn't directly under the lake. My guess is that although parts of the underground base are under the lake this chamber is more to the Side, really under land
@@malteser0212 That was my logic as well - the entrance to the underground area might be under the lake, but the internal tunnels probably expand out all the way to the catacombs of the city (which might explain why the area they fight the Dai Li in looks like more like a sewer)
@@malteser0212 exactly my thought, the entrance was under water but the facility was mostly under the beach/mountain area. Would kinda need to be to secretly transport the Judee's all over the city, a connected tunnel network. Same thing with getting Appa in and out of the place, a thin brick wall on the side of the room was hollow and led to a tunnel to the surface.
The one thing I have yet to see anyone mention is during the scene when Iroh says 'it's time to look inward and ask yourself the big questions' a large part of Zuko's scar goes out of frame, but not all of it. This could symbolize that Zuko has started making his own decisions and putting his father's wishes behind himself, but he still has a way to go before actually making his own choices. Zuko still needs half a season before finally choosing his own path which he fully stands behind.
In the comics, don't remember which one, but the Blue Spirit mask was the one from the play he mentioned he & Azula would see and reenact on Ember Island as children. It's a memory of his mother. Zuko would play the part of the Blue Water Spirit.