Okay. So I do believe Bradford has settled in for the most part. 3/4 games he played well. Giving up a sack to Sexy Dexy is not bad. However, I think PFFs grades on Haynes are more than a fucking joke. You can’t tell me that Atlanta game adds up because I did the math, they knocked Haynes down 33 points because of the one false start penalty. Meanwhile, Jerrell also had a false start penalty and they knocked him down 3 points. And again, look at Buffalo. He allows one pressure on 8 passing plays and gets a 12 pass blocking grade?!? Anyone with elementary critical thinking skills can tell this doesn’t make sense. However, the joke that is PFF aside, i don’t think the plan was ever for Haynes to be our RG. Bradford just played so bad at the beginning of the season that we were forced to rotate snaps. I think the plan is that we develop him at LG, and then potentially start him there next season. When we drafted him this is what I wanted because this can be steps towards having a long term O line that can play together for multiple seasons. I think going forward the FO and coaching staff want Cross-Haynes-Williams-Bradford-Lucas. So hey, if Bradford is playing better and getting to a high level that can only mean good things for us in the future.
Very good ….agree for the most part, especially that PFF is a joke….your proposed OL would be good….just seems hard to think Haynes can transition quickly to LG with little play there this year and every start at RG in college….
@ I still use them but not for the grades. Easiest way for me to find a lot of important stats that sometimes are hard to find. Plus detailed snap counts by D line alignment, rushing direction, passing chart, WR vs Cb matchups, etc… But no, the grades I consider useless unless it backs up the stats and eye test. But I’m willing to pay the connivence fee to have easy access to what I mentioned above
@@cdwoods8591 I do agree there's some useful items outside of grades on their site, but not for the price they're charging. I can get most of that on PFR for free.
Idk why people expect a 3rd round pick to be a day 1 starter. 3rd round picks aren’t expected to be day 1 starters, they have the upside to be that but you also get high upside players that may need a year.
Haynes was the pick I had the most faith in coming out of the draft, he definitely should've been able to beat out AB from Week 1. With that being said, I think Laken Tomlinson will be the odd man out after this season. Haynes will get at least one more season to develop.
Nwver forget they drafted dee eskridge over creed Humphrey. Center and o line in general has been an issue for years. Would like to see them invest in some proven veteran free agents to solidify the line.
Are starting guards are just bad. They have no one to replace them is a bad sign. Neither can run block and their pass blocking is average. These 2 are going to get Geno injured. right now a 8 win season is pushing it.
Just me personally, im ready to move on from Metcalf and Geno. Doesnt need to be in the middle of this year but i think the vibes are stale when those 2 are seen as our leaders. Both have an anger management issue and dont get me started on all the other red flags with 14. Who cares if they go somewhere else and go off because it aint happening here.
I disagree, I feel DK is productive every single year as a seahawk, and he is one of the motors of our offense, you saw it in the bills game in assuming, we couldn’t get anything going and I feel DK’s absence is a big part of that, without him we lack speed in our wide receiver room and the air attack is impacted drastically. For Geno he is great bang for buck and imo he is a top 10 quarterback I don’t believe many other quarterbacks could succeed greatly behind the current Seahawks o Line he’s shown that he is clutch at the end of the game and can carry the team (for example the lions game last year) however you can’t expect him to carry this team week in and week out when we have a league worst OL, and defense.
Haynes not a surprise...Cowboys and 49ers got Beebe and Puni before us, so passed on Haynes. He looked better in college because he was a 24 year old playing against some 4 or 5 years younger then him. Maybe he just isn't that good.
They should have resigned Lewis i said it at the time. He's playing much better than anything we have on the roster at Guard. Did we need to give Fant 10 mill a year hell no. We don't feature the TE in this offense complete waste of money, could have used it to sign other players like Lewis.
Christian Haynes has been a major disappointment. Between him and Olu, we need to take a real look at how we scout OL.
It feels like they have the worst o line every year
He’s a LG at a pro level playing out of position if that matters (maybe not lol)
Olu has done a good job in the few games he's played. He was the best center in college two years ago. He needs more reps.
You wanna do something about the OL, fire the GM
@@rickyricardo4599lol no
Dame Lewis started out as a right guard and moved to LG and ended up being our best lineman. Hopefully Haynes can do the same. Fingers crossed
yeah except damien lewis was a good right guard as well. also lewis had left guard experience while haynes has only played rg is entire college career
Lewis was never better than Cross or Lucas….
Maybe offer Peters a position as a scout after this year.
Okay. So I do believe Bradford has settled in for the most part. 3/4 games he played well. Giving up a sack to Sexy Dexy is not bad. However, I think PFFs grades on Haynes are more than a fucking joke. You can’t tell me that Atlanta game adds up because I did the math, they knocked Haynes down 33 points because of the one false start penalty. Meanwhile, Jerrell also had a false start penalty and they knocked him down 3 points.
And again, look at Buffalo. He allows one pressure on 8 passing plays and gets a 12 pass blocking grade?!? Anyone with elementary critical thinking skills can tell this doesn’t make sense.
However, the joke that is PFF aside, i don’t think the plan was ever for Haynes to be our RG. Bradford just played so bad at the beginning of the season that we were forced to rotate snaps. I think the plan is that we develop him at LG, and then potentially start him there next season.
When we drafted him this is what I wanted because this can be steps towards having a long term O line that can play together for multiple seasons. I think going forward the FO and coaching staff want Cross-Haynes-Williams-Bradford-Lucas.
So hey, if Bradford is playing better and getting to a high level that can only mean good things for us in the future.
I ended my sub to PFF... their ratings and content for the price they charge are a bunch of BS.
Very good ….agree for the most part, especially that PFF is a joke….your proposed OL would be good….just seems hard to think Haynes can transition quickly to LG with little play there this year and every start at RG in college….
@ I still use them but not for the grades. Easiest way for me to find a lot of important stats that sometimes are hard to find. Plus detailed snap counts by D line alignment, rushing direction, passing chart, WR vs Cb matchups, etc…
But no, the grades I consider useless unless it backs up the stats and eye test. But I’m willing to pay the connivence fee to have easy access to what I mentioned above
@@cdwoods8591 I do agree there's some useful items outside of grades on their site, but not for the price they're charging. I can get most of that on PFR for free.
Idk why people expect a 3rd round pick to be a day 1 starter. 3rd round picks aren’t expected to be day 1 starters, they have the upside to be that but you also get high upside players that may need a year.
I think it’s because he was thought to be a first or second round pick that dropped to the third.
thats just straight up false. 3rd round picks drafted for the position of need are almost always expected to be day 1 starters.
@@riqspoonno he wasn’t expected to start….he was expected to compete with Bradford and other free agents they brought in….
@ no that isn’t false, statistically 3rd round picks aren’t starters. They are generally back ups or ST players.
@@jordan3305 spot on Jordan….as far as I could tell with a cursory look, only third rounder from last draft starting is Puni….
We’re like the bears or jets are w QBs. Can’t get a decent o line going if our life depended on it
We just drafted a Samoan guard, Laumea! Why not give him a chance? How is he supposed to get experience otherwise?
Wouldn’t be surprised if Haynes nor Bradford isn’t on the roster next year
No chance they release MacDonalds third round pick after one season..
@@brianmyers4444if you can’t beat out AB at guard there is genuinely no hope for you
Haynes was the pick I had the most faith in coming out of the draft, he definitely should've been able to beat out AB from Week 1.
With that being said, I think Laken Tomlinson will be the odd man out after this season. Haynes will get at least one more season to develop.
@@jadenbennett6232 nonsense….strength, time, and experience….he’ll get there….its his first eight games in the pros…..relax….
@@jadenbennett6232maybe it’s because he isn’t ready this year…
How can Bradford have both a 27 and an 87 at PBLK? Haynes a 12 and an 83 at PBLK? This tells me the ratings are highly circumstantial.
Ever since we traded Max Unger our o line has been sub par. We had Duane Brown for awhile but that's it.
Haynes needs to start rotating with lg.
Nwver forget they drafted dee eskridge over creed Humphrey. Center and o line in general has been an issue for years. Would like to see them invest in some proven veteran free agents to solidify the line.
I would like to see how the whole OL (individuals) rank in the NFL (#/110).
We cannot be judging Schneider for Haynes. Literally every anylist liked him and thought he was our best pick. Sometimes things just don’t pan out.
Not every rookie starts during his first eight games or even his first season….patience…..
Haynes: John Schneider strikes again. 😤
EIGHT games in….are you that crazy….and he missed time during OTAs before the season….patience is needed sparky….
Should give jason peters reps at guard. What do seahawks have to lose
Could boost OL play a bit, but not so sure considering he’s 40+ and we would have to rotate him
Dom puni was picked one pick after Haynes by the 9ers....and he has been wayy better. Instant starter.
What difference does it even make
Should have drafted Puni instead of Haynes just saying.
Are starting guards are just bad. They have no one to replace them is a bad sign. Neither can run block and their pass blocking is average. These 2 are going to get Geno injured. right now a 8 win season is pushing it.
LETS ROLL? LOL
Yeah we're just cooked this year our roster sucks
Just me personally, im ready to move on from Metcalf and Geno. Doesnt need to be in the middle of this year but i think the vibes are stale when those 2 are seen as our leaders. Both have an anger management issue and dont get me started on all the other red flags with 14. Who cares if they go somewhere else and go off because it aint happening here.
I disagree, I feel DK is productive every single year as a seahawk, and he is one of the motors of our offense, you saw it in the bills game in assuming, we couldn’t get anything going and I feel DK’s absence is a big part of that, without him we lack speed in our wide receiver room and the air attack is impacted drastically. For Geno he is great bang for buck and imo he is a top 10 quarterback I don’t believe many other quarterbacks could succeed greatly behind the current Seahawks o Line he’s shown that he is clutch at the end of the game and can carry the team (for example the lions game last year) however you can’t expect him to carry this team week in and week out when we have a league worst OL, and defense.
@@Malachi.Byeah sick of hearing all the dk hate. Out of all the teams issues how is he the one people have a problem with?😂
I'd entertain replacing Geno before Metcalf.
@@Malachi.B what is he top 5 at? Name a trait other than speed.
@@jesselund360 show me the part where I said top 5?
Haynes not a surprise...Cowboys and 49ers got Beebe and Puni before us, so passed on Haynes. He looked better in college because he was a 24 year old playing against some 4 or 5 years younger then him. Maybe he just isn't that good.
i think the atl game is more of a discredit to atls pass rush more than credit to bradford
They should have resigned Lewis i said it at the time. He's playing much better than anything we have on the roster at Guard. Did we need to give Fant 10 mill a year hell no. We don't feature the TE in this offense complete waste of money, could have used it to sign other players like Lewis.
No, he isn’t even close to being worth the money. He didn’t even play that good his last year with us.