I will try the roll off the fingers MM. For now I am taking baby steps working on the grip and my release has to be more closed handed as opposed to opening my palm so open wide like a net being flung open.
George FromCy. Interesting George. Keep at it I’m sure you will get it going. PS I got a copy of the book dr don’t was referring to. A very interesting read. The author was a very respected gambling authority decades ago. Lot’s of fun history of the game in the book and a full mathematical analysis of the odds and probability. I think you would like it.
George after watching this in slow motion you might want to focus on landing your dice at the very bottom of the rubber wall about 2 to 3 inches from it. These dice are not controlled at all here... Would love to see your footage or video in slow motion that are controlled. If you have one please provide the title or link thanks
I hear you brother. I plan on doing the slow motion footage on my channel in January. Finally will have a camera that films in slow motion for Christmas. Went with the DJI3@@GeorgeFromCy
Larry Holloway I’d like Jacob to help me also. I watch all of his content always. He’s one of the best. I also like Craps Hawaii and Let It Roll for conservative strategies. But not the hedging parts. Lol.
@@GeorgeFromCy i use the underhand and chopper but high speed video shows they tend to end up random also. i enjoy the challenge of trying to make it work i am not criticizing you just what i observed from many years of playing and practicing.
@@diceshark8232 hey bro.. i didnt feel criticised at all... just another humble guy looking for the answers that nobody seems to wanna give up...lol.. so i try like yourself to teach myself as much as i can and cut out the BS that many try to sell... I just love the game with a passion .
George, the changes are tough to get accustomed to, but the release point and the lower overall arc I'm certain will give you more consistency throw to throw in the long run as you get comfortable with the release (seems you did NOT like these).
I am willing to live with any combination of grip/release/flight path/landing zone combo as long as the results remain consistent and give me a slight edge if possible on inside numbers. Although in my morning video things were not consistent there is a concentration trend towards the inside numbers with these new mechanics. It is in my poor opinion a matter of repetition and tweaking to be more familiar and guess which toss feels good and which does not. At the moment I cant tell as I am gaining familiarity with the process. I am sure it shows how uncomfortable i feel on dice pickup and grip.
@@GeorgeFromCy obviously your comfort with your own consistency and the overall results are what truly matter. Like you, my goal is as many inside numbers as possible because my regressions tend to get me to an inside start. Even with the grip start and feeling it out, we can see the dice moving more closely together in unison and your energy on landing seems lower. Your dice are tight. Looking forward to watching more George.
If you are beating the casinos with those types of throws, then it's mostly luck. I examined your throws and how they landed were random. The dice kept breaking up and rolling all over the table. That is not much of a controlled throw.
Cobra Snake then I am open to suggestions. I will respect your observations. I will never call my self proficient enough but I am trying. Do you have any suggestions or videos I could watch from you? Always interested in new material. Thank you.
Chronic Crypto the only legislation I know of is that of New Jersey where it states that the shooter must”attempt” to hit the dice (plural) onto the back wall. Key word is attempt. If one die does not make it to the back wall it is considered a valid roll. Also if dice cross the middle of the table and land short of the wall once it is either a valid roll with or without a warning. Vegas rules now. There is no publication or legislation in place for public consumption although rules exist and are known by casinos, the gaming commission places its trust in the casinos to enforce them accordingly. So you may get disallowed rolls if they are in your favour and allowed rolls if they are seven outs. They call the shots in short.
@@GeorgeFromCy ok. I'm new to this and been practicing dice control and I've heard 2 things some people telling me one dice must hot the wall and others saying 2 so when I go I'll find out for sure. I'm in Colorado so idk what their rules are or anything.
Chronic Crypto please do me a favour and practice within the rules. Hit the back wall with both dice. Just enough to be within the rules. Do not drill the back wall as this is not what experienced shooters try to do.
@@GeorgeFromCy that's what I've been doing. I arch my throws and they fly flat as can be the hardway and hit right before the back wall to show down momentum before they hit for minimal rotation.
the slow motion is great. I can't tell if the middle finger is on the dice or if its just thumb and pointer.
Good video , I slow mo my throws and analyze them for hours
what a great idea, I will do slow motion also and see where my dice are going thanks george
CRAPS FOR LIFE you’re welcome Sir.
Looks like more of a drop than rolling off the fingers. Hard to tell for sure.
I will try the roll off the fingers MM. For now I am taking baby steps working on the grip and my release has to be more closed handed as opposed to opening my palm so open wide like a net being flung open.
George FromCy. Interesting George. Keep at it I’m sure you will get it going. PS I got a copy of the book dr don’t was referring to. A very interesting read. The author was a very respected gambling authority decades ago. Lot’s of fun history of the game in the book and a full mathematical analysis of the odds and probability. I think you would like it.
@@mudslidemac9613 No doubt MM. I just need to create a couple of extra hours in my schedule to fit this reading in .. lol
George FromCy 10-4, Rodger that.
George after watching this in slow motion you might want to focus on landing your dice at the very bottom of the rubber wall about 2 to 3 inches from it. These dice are not controlled at all here... Would love to see your footage or video in slow motion that are controlled. If you have one please provide the title or link thanks
Doing my best brother. I’ll do some slow mo in the future. It’s just time consuming to import and edit these files cause they’re huge in size.
I hear you brother. I plan on doing the slow motion footage on my channel in January. Finally will have a camera that films in slow motion for Christmas. Went with the DJI3@@GeorgeFromCy
Keep at it George I can tell that you’re practicing.
Superlite Pilot thank you sir.
You need to show the dice come out ?
Thanks for sharing Amigo
Larry Holloway my pleasure brother. You know I did this mostly for me lol.
George FromCy Yes Sir I understand But it’s great for me to see and understand Thanks
Larry Holloway you’re very welcome Sir!
Jacob (Wager) is my Coach on Strategy and your my dice control Guru. Great pair
Larry Holloway I’d like Jacob to help me also. I watch all of his content always. He’s one of the best. I also like Craps Hawaii and Let It Roll for conservative strategies. But not the hedging parts. Lol.
nice toss unfortunately your slow motion shows how random the toss becomes. the physics of the parr shot does not work.
Hey DS. Do you have a toss that works ? Very interested in looking at different toss techniques
Thank you for your comment
@@GeorgeFromCy i use the underhand and chopper but high speed video shows they tend to end up random also. i enjoy the challenge of trying to make it work
i am not criticizing you just what i observed from many years of playing and practicing.
@@diceshark8232 hey bro.. i didnt feel criticised at all... just another humble guy looking for the answers that nobody seems to wanna give up...lol.. so i try like yourself to teach myself as much as i can and cut out the BS that many try to sell... I just love the game with a passion .
George, the changes are tough to get accustomed to, but the release point and the lower overall arc I'm certain will give you more consistency throw to throw in the long run as you get comfortable with the release (seems you did NOT like these).
I am willing to live with any combination of grip/release/flight path/landing zone combo as long as the results remain consistent and give me a slight edge if possible on inside numbers. Although in my morning video things were not consistent there is a concentration trend towards the inside numbers with these new mechanics.
It is in my poor opinion a matter of repetition and tweaking to be more familiar and guess which toss feels good and which does not.
At the moment I cant tell as I am gaining familiarity with the process. I am sure it shows how uncomfortable i feel on dice pickup and grip.
@@GeorgeFromCy obviously your comfort with your own consistency and the overall results are what truly matter. Like you, my goal is as many inside numbers as possible because my regressions tend to get me to an inside start. Even with the grip start and feeling it out, we can see the dice moving more closely together in unison and your energy on landing seems lower. Your dice are tight. Looking forward to watching more George.
You definitely should be making money at the casino with that throw..
I’ve been known to make a bit. Lol.
Throw not as good. The dice are landing randomly. He can actually lose money.
Cobra Snake that is not the case but you’re welcome to that opinion sir.
If you are beating the casinos with those types of throws, then it's mostly luck. I examined your throws and how they landed were random. The dice kept breaking up and rolling all over the table. That is not much of a controlled throw.
Cobra Snake then I am open to suggestions. I will respect your observations. I will never call my self proficient enough but I am trying.
Do you have any suggestions or videos I could watch from you? Always interested in new material. Thank you.
Thanks for the slow motion. And proving once and for all dice control/influence is total bullshit🤓
agreed
When playing craps do both dice have to hit the back wall or just one?
Chronic Crypto the only legislation I know of is that of New Jersey where it states that the shooter must”attempt” to hit the dice (plural) onto the back wall. Key word is attempt. If one die does not make it to the back wall it is considered a valid roll. Also if dice cross the middle of the table and land short of the wall once it is either a valid roll with or without a warning.
Vegas rules now. There is no publication or legislation in place for public consumption although rules exist and are known by casinos, the gaming commission places its trust in the casinos to enforce them accordingly. So you may get disallowed rolls if they are in your favour and allowed rolls if they are seven outs. They call the shots in short.
@@GeorgeFromCy ok. I'm new to this and been practicing dice control and I've heard 2 things some people telling me one dice must hot the wall and others saying 2 so when I go I'll find out for sure. I'm in Colorado so idk what their rules are or anything.
Chronic Crypto please do me a favour and practice within the rules. Hit the back wall with both dice. Just enough to be within the rules. Do not drill the back wall as this is not what experienced shooters try to do.
@@GeorgeFromCy that's what I've been doing. I arch my throws and they fly flat as can be the hardway and hit right before the back wall to show down momentum before they hit for minimal rotation.
Try letting the dice roll a bit off your fingers