Respectfully it is very easy to see the name Kh@listan as extreme. This addresses remarks in video before and after @17:55 - approx You have to ask what has shaped your view and the view of most people? (rhetorical not aiming it at any one in particular 🙏). The narrative/rhetoric that was sold to the world by india was it is an extreme faction of Sikhs, nobody supports. [The indian regime can be defined as the system]. It includes those that run it. This is a separate area/issue/topic that needs to be looked into to understand the dynamics/facets to the whole Khalistan conversation. Khalsa are opposed to tyrannical systems and oppression of all minorities Not understanding the various aspects will give you a limited understanding. As stated above they labelled Khalistans as extreme and as terrorists! The word 'Khalis, = 'Khalas' which means Pure. "Stan" likely derived from Persian (many words in Sikhi come from Persian as its language dominated the 'South Asian continent' of what is now modern day "india". Borders (well hard borders as they are now) did not exist as such back then! Great wall of China waa probably the only real hard border on the world to exist, interestingly. The definition of Khalas as you will find is: " Khalsa, derived from the word Khalas, meaning pure, is an initiated Sikh and community of Sikhs who are committed to truthful living, a life of purity. " What we call those who have taken amrit! Hopefully this gives you some understanding of the importance of the word! Something the "indian regime" is full aware of! Many Sikhs (living the life prescribed by Gurus) will be offended because: 1. The real meaning of the word 2. The many Sikhs (GurSikhs) that gave their lives going back to 1947 and even earlier. Not just beginning in the 1980s (Sant Bhindrawale Ji) continuing into the 1990s (Jaswant Singh Khalera). Highly recommend the book: The Valiant: Jaswant Singh Khalra by Gurmeet Kaur (available on mightykhalsa). 3. Why would Khalsa back down or withdraw from something they actively pursued - for them it means something else! Its like asking them to withdraw it because an enemy of their own choosing have decides to redefine it?! Would you let someone dictate your culture, your religion, your rights? Changing it or removing it is like making a concession due to external pressure! An attempt to destroy the word 'khalas' (pure). If you don't have purity what are you left with as a Sikh? @19:40 would refer you to time of misls! Sikhs can come together and they need to for it to work. We all need to be under 'one' banner regardless of caste (jaat paat) and jatha-bandi (a sikh should be free from any associations with groups - should be a self-existent entity doing seva when and where ever needed/necessary). Even if they want to remain in a group / still have respect for others. No one bigger or greater than another. For a Sikh it is Guru Ji and Vaheguru Ji 🙏 We are all on our journey of spiritual enlightenment /emancipation if it is in our destiny to do so! Even being a good person and/or having realisation of 'G-d' would be something! Although many would argue Khalistan just semantics (who cares?),as during Maharaja Ranjeet Singhs time it was called: Sarkar-I (pronounced 'E')-Khalsa. Many Sikhs changing the name from saying Khalistan to 'Punjab Homeland, @17:55(ish) do not only see it as a form of disrespect of what its name was but also see it as dishonouring the lives given by those that fought (attempted to free it) for its independence). Side note: Its been called Punjab as part of its annexation to form India by the British preceeding 1850 after they kidnapped the Kings son (dethroned) and sent him to England to ensure he (Maharaja Duleep Singh) had no concept/understanding of his Kingdom/Raj and to ensure he would never rule. While the queen (his mother) Maharani Jind Kaur was 'deposed/forced to abdicate' from 'the raaj' by being sent to another region in india never to be allowed to return. England looted The Sikh Treasuries and to this day holds onto the vast majority of it! Even myself before doing my research thought we should try to distance ourselves as much as possible from the word 'Khalistani' and Khalistan. This was until i realised the significance and how the word was transformed from something founded in truth/purity to label it/redefine it as something dirty associating it with "terr0ri$ts (-ism)". This is when i realised it was nothing to be ashamed of! Sikhs will also not compromise the truth! This fight has been going for a long time (our parents/family may not have an understanding but the one sold to them by the authorities). Sometimes it may well be easy to take the path of least resistance but when has path of Sikhi ever been easy? It is only with their perseverance and hard work through peaceful protests/activism have people began to realise what it means! I'd urge everyone to do their own research. Be careful not to enter rabbit holes where the misinformation/disinformation may be strong. Highly suggest different sources or recommended lists by those who know. Our source of info should be organisations like Basics of Sikhi who are attempting to educated people with Sikhi and act as a guide to (well known) sources they can use! Just to reiterate: many fake sources out there so be careful what you read/where you get materials from respectfully. All I will say is Sikhs on Gurus Path will not give you biased info. Anyone who may have doubts for what ever reason please approach a group or have a discussion with 4 or 5 of them if it helps you to feel more at ease. Can very much reassure you they are not as extreme as some may think (perhaps not knowing anything different). As part of Indias campaign to ensure the word terr0rist stuck you need to look into 'bl@ck cats", the many operarions that were run to ensure "freed0m fighter$" or militants were given a label of "terr0r!sm" during the course of the eighties after 1984. They undertook many operations to infiltrate and parade around as Sikhs conmiting crimes against the.civilian population to ensure people would remember for generations to come. The real Sikh freedom fighters/milit@nts never committed crimes against the general population. Personally there seems to be a disconnect or non-realisation of what Sikhi is and resorting to/conducting crimes of some sort?! It is mutually exclusive! A Sikh will always maintain his moral code of conduct even if he is a militant or is fighting for justice! Some may be more passionate than others but does not necessarily mean they are extreme and again someones views/sensitivities does not mean everyone is the same or they are all extreme! Perhaps it is eaay to stereotype! Is this through your own experiences or because you heard from someone? 🤔 For a Gursikh its the Gurus teaching/understanding s/he lives upon not something that is contradictory to the code of conduct! It is really sad to know when people acrually believe the rhetoric sold to them without doing their own research! Hopefully Indy / Dr if you read this - you will do your own research. Personally in my opinion being what is defined as a "moderate" falls into the definition of what the indian state wants all Sikhs to be like? Ever ask why? Will leave that as an exercise if you or anyone chooses to probe it further! It would be great if you get someone on that you can interview like edit: Manpreet Singh (World Sikh Parliament, as an alternative to the name mentioned in an earlier comment)| there are several well versed people who can speak on subject [As someone mentioned in comments - speak with SikhPA or Basics of Sikhi who can point you in the right direction to match your podcast/requirements (as you prefer] | sure they will assist in this matter! Apologies if I said anything wrong, no offence intended. This subject is complicated and has so many aspects to it I am sure i've done it an injustice but hopefully put forward a comment that gives everyone more to think on, although very limited indeed! Please do your own research and furthermore the topic of 1984 is discussed on "BOSTV" channel. Can be found here on utube. I'm sure it will give a far better, understanding than i can! 🙏 They are recent uploads so you should be able to find them easily (3 or 4 podcasts). It is a channel by Everythings13 / their other channel is called: Basics of Sikhi [not here to promote, no affiliation, just directing you to a source that is truthful and can be trusted for a balanced/unbiased view ]. Look forward to hearing more on the channel. 🙏 Please remember the use of word "Khalistan" is to deliberately be divisive (a lot of planning and marketing went into it) and anyone falling for it is in my opinion falling for the very well planned / orchestrated propaganda that originates from the indian government. As Sikhs I would argue its our duty to do the research and realise how propaganda works - it is not a conspiracy. 🙏 Other aspects could be mentioned but this comment is a lot longer than was anticipated already. Many different dots that need to be looked at in conjunction with each other to truly understanf. Difficult to look at by considering any one incident/history in isolation. Many may not see it as a war - but it continues today - just look at indian media over the last 2 years. It is collectively called "godi media" referring to Modi (the current face of "india" politics). Again urge everyone interested to do their research before arriving at any decision/conclusion on 'The Sikh Movement for Freedom'. No offence intended. Please forgive me for any mistakes, sure there are many. Apologies for spelling. 🙏
Also you missed a crucial point... Same Protesters were doing this 3-4 days ago outside a Gurudwara but they did it 150 meters away from Gurudwara Gate... But in case of mandir they did it right in front of the gate to instigate and do provocative sloganing.... Also i hope you have seen the video of attack and who started it first by swinging khalistan flag sticks and using it as a weapon to attack inside temple premises... This is not a random thing which just happened... There was a peel police officer off duty on protest... Certainly bringing the two tier policing out in public... Brampton is the most hated place in Canada for a reason... every other day videos are going viral of Punjabi people irrespective of religion doing stuff not comprehenable even in Indian villages... Sikh expo page is definitely not the credible source of info...there are much better sikh pages then that.... Also Sikh expo page is pro british muslims... It never posts regarding the actions of British muslims towards sikh girls and women... It didn't even mention the attack on sikh girls in Leicester for same reasons... No post on grooming gangs either
what were the counter protesters protesting exactly other than inciting violence and oh yeah the permit allowed them to be this close and the 150 meters was the result of police presence. WTF.
@@sbains6096 There are numerous video evidences of Khalistanis bullying Hindus. Please take responsibility and stop playing victim. The Khalistanis did this deliberately. They were politely asked to leave by the devotees and they refused, then they tried to attack a lady, thats when she called all the other counter protestors. God knows the truth.
Pannu is not helping, he should have calmly set up the narrative about the truth of Indian politics targeting minority groups to gain politically. Instead he started threatening and insinuating violence, not the right time for that. Sometimes it feels as if some pro-Khalistani workers are speaking in the hands of Indian Intelligence (controlled opposition strategy by India). Which I cannit agree with, targeting your own minority groups for political gains and we have to educate the majority Hindu so they wake up from the fake propaganda done to herd them into vote banks. If not, separation ?
Pannu told Hindus to leave Canada, and got scared when asked to you want part of Pakistan to make Khalistan, as he knows not to mess with Muslims and Pakistan
@@hkaur4487thats a bit extreme! Shamsher maybe passionate. I would not say extreme. In fact he is one of a few people that uses his right to protestand in my opinion a passionate activist! Using a particular case - He was one of only a very few people who made a stand against indian government officials being invited to a gurdwara to discuss government issues over a private banquet setup for them! Not even langar - everyone should be treated the same! Langar is for everyone to take together, not in a private/vip area! Plus more to it including representation of a rogue fascist regime! [Not an opinion, factual! Based upon reports from governments and humanitarian watchdogs/NGOs. The whole drama of hosting officials privately detracts from philosophy / Gurus maat of: " Pangat fehr Sangat! " They (gov officials) were confronted at The Gurdwara and made a run for it without question! Video available somewhere. Well done Shamsher! [Salute]👍🙏 Ever since his probably been put on a hate list to frame and picture him as a what Indy/Dr deem/use a borrowed term "PKE"! Perhaps a better interpretation of which would be: Passionate Khalistan(i) Empathiser 🙏
I am not versed in this issue but when in Punjab earlier this year I asked a few people if they wanted a separate Sikh state - they all said no 🤷🏽♀️ small sample but cannot help thinking this is more of a movement/issue for Sikhs outside of India.
46:57 You don't strike me as a fountain of eternal wiisdom! Say something sensible so people can understand your viewpoint.There is plenty of Indian media to do the name calling and deciding for others what they want!
@ hardly any. I would say even 80% jatts don’t support it. I must add some are genuinely aggrieved due to police encounters and torture in 80s. But Sikhs should focus on education and progress of the community rather than attacking Hindu temples
I think the solution to the khalistan issue is justice for Sikhs !! But unfortunately, Indira Gandhi's cult members including police and judges ruined cases where victims were harassed by the police and it's extremely sad to listen to survivors who told the media that judges unko gaali deke bulate the!! It was actually because of the supreme court's judicial activism that Sajjan Kumar was jailed after 37 years of the genocide!!!
@Sattvacchan look I get it 1984 was a dark day in India's history no doubt and the years that followed however this idea that only Sikhs were the victims Hindus were pulled off busses and killed for being Hindu by Sikh terrorists and blowing up an air india airoplane. India has moved on India and it's a different place now. They can have all the referendums they want India ain't giving up shit!
Yes the majority in PANJAB wants KHALISTAN a free Panjab! How do we know this A. The millions of punjabis in support and protesting during the Farmers protest. B, bhai Amritpal making positive changes as a Khalsa and the people rallied, Bhai Amritpal and 100s of other Khalsa Sikhs arrested and sent to jail on bogus charges yet no evidence or sentenced by judge. there is no freedoms of speech in India for punjabis? They still haven’t charged juggy johal from Uk yet he’s been held in jail nearly 7 years ? Where is the justice in india?
How is Khalistan any different from calling for a Hindu rashtra? You want a region that's 50% Sikh to be officially a Sikh country while sanghis want a region where they're 80% to be officially a Hindu country. Is either of these proposed countries fair on non sikhs and non hindus. Both sides also argue they're doing it to protect their faith and community due to past and current oppression.
Hindus who want Hindu state or Khalistanis are both wrong, but Hindutva don't attack Sikhs or Sikh religion , while Khalistanis blame all there problems of Hindus
A Khalistan rasthra would be disastrous for minorities, guaranteed. They are very anti-Hindu and they already have a adversarial past with Muslims. You need to study the movement to get the full picture of what they are all about. Its a marxist based movement that is deep state funded
No Sikhs do not want only Sikhs in Khalistan, they want all religions to be able to practice their own religion freely like in the Sikh Raaj under maharaja ranjit Singh ji. They want Sikh fair and just rules not the bullying and discrimination of Indian government.
@HapB-f5m hindutva lot say EXACT same thing. They absolutely do not say that only Hindus can live there. They say current system is unfair and gives privileges to other groups so they want to get rid of this. Why should non Sikhs have to live under Sikh laws? Everybody thinks their system is best but it's all discriminatory
@bg6358 I hate Khalistanis but Modi and there followers are also evil, they daily directly and indirectly blame Muslims for all there problems, and made life's of Hindus hard outside India as non Hindus most Hindus are Hidutva
Interesting chat guys, would be happy to talk to you about Sikh sovereignty, have written on the subject as a student of theology and religion, cheers
@@manveersingh5780 where can we read it?
Respectfully it is very easy to see the name Kh@listan as extreme.
This addresses remarks in video before and after @17:55 - approx
You have to ask what has shaped your view and the view of most people? (rhetorical not aiming it at any one in particular 🙏).
The narrative/rhetoric that was sold to the world by india was it is an extreme faction of Sikhs, nobody supports. [The indian regime can be defined as the system]. It includes those that run it. This is a separate area/issue/topic that needs to be looked into to understand the dynamics/facets to the whole Khalistan conversation. Khalsa are opposed to tyrannical systems and oppression of all minorities
Not understanding the various aspects will give you a limited understanding. As stated above they labelled Khalistans as extreme and as terrorists! The word 'Khalis, = 'Khalas' which means Pure. "Stan" likely derived from Persian (many words in Sikhi come from Persian as its language dominated the 'South Asian continent' of what is now modern day "india". Borders (well hard borders as they are now) did not exist as such back then! Great wall of China waa probably the only real hard border on the world to exist, interestingly.
The definition of Khalas as you will find is:
" Khalsa, derived from the word Khalas, meaning pure, is an initiated Sikh and community of Sikhs who are committed to truthful living, a life of purity. "
What we call those who have taken amrit!
Hopefully this gives you some understanding of the importance of the word! Something the "indian regime" is full aware of! Many Sikhs (living the life prescribed by Gurus) will be offended because:
1. The real meaning of the word
2. The many Sikhs (GurSikhs) that gave their lives going back to 1947 and even earlier. Not just beginning in the 1980s (Sant Bhindrawale Ji) continuing into the 1990s (Jaswant Singh Khalera). Highly recommend the book: The Valiant: Jaswant Singh Khalra by Gurmeet Kaur (available on mightykhalsa).
3. Why would Khalsa back down or withdraw from something they actively pursued - for them it means something else! Its like asking them to withdraw it because an enemy of their own choosing have decides to redefine it?! Would you let someone dictate your culture, your religion, your rights? Changing it or removing it is like making a concession due to external pressure! An attempt to destroy the word 'khalas' (pure). If you don't have purity what are you left with as a Sikh?
@19:40 would refer you to time of misls! Sikhs can come together and they need to for it to work. We all need to be under 'one' banner regardless of caste (jaat paat) and jatha-bandi (a sikh should be free from any associations with groups - should be a self-existent entity doing seva when and where ever needed/necessary). Even if they want to remain in a group / still have respect for others. No one bigger or greater than another. For a Sikh it is Guru Ji and Vaheguru Ji 🙏
We are all on our journey of spiritual enlightenment /emancipation if it is in our destiny to do so! Even being a good person and/or having realisation of 'G-d' would be something!
Although many would argue Khalistan just semantics (who cares?),as during Maharaja Ranjeet Singhs time it was called: Sarkar-I (pronounced 'E')-Khalsa. Many Sikhs changing the name from saying Khalistan to 'Punjab Homeland, @17:55(ish) do not only see it as a form of disrespect of what its name was but also see it as dishonouring the lives given by those that fought (attempted to free it) for its independence).
Side note: Its been called Punjab as part of its annexation to form India by the British preceeding 1850 after they kidnapped the Kings son (dethroned) and sent him to England to ensure he (Maharaja Duleep Singh) had no concept/understanding of his Kingdom/Raj and to ensure he would never rule.
While the queen (his mother) Maharani Jind Kaur was 'deposed/forced to abdicate' from 'the raaj' by being sent to another region in india never to be allowed to return.
England looted The Sikh Treasuries and to this day holds onto the vast majority of it!
Even myself before doing my research thought we should try to distance ourselves as much as possible from the word 'Khalistani' and Khalistan. This was until i realised the significance and how the word was transformed from something founded in truth/purity to label it/redefine it as something dirty associating it with "terr0ri$ts (-ism)".
This is when i realised it was nothing to be ashamed of! Sikhs will also not compromise the truth! This fight has been going for a long time (our parents/family may not have an understanding but the one sold to them by the authorities).
Sometimes it may well be easy to take the path of least resistance but when has path of Sikhi ever been easy? It is only with their perseverance and hard work through peaceful protests/activism have people began to realise what it means! I'd urge everyone to do their own research. Be careful not to enter rabbit holes where the misinformation/disinformation may be strong. Highly suggest different sources or recommended lists by those who know. Our source of info should be organisations like Basics of Sikhi who are attempting to educated people with Sikhi and act as a guide to (well known) sources they can use! Just to reiterate: many fake sources out there so be careful what you read/where you get materials from respectfully. All I will say is Sikhs on Gurus Path will not give you biased info. Anyone who may have doubts for what ever reason please approach a group or have a discussion with 4 or 5 of them if it helps you to feel more at ease. Can very much reassure you they are not as extreme as some may think (perhaps not knowing anything different).
As part of Indias campaign to ensure the word terr0rist stuck you need to look into 'bl@ck cats", the many operarions that were run to ensure "freed0m fighter$" or militants were given a label of "terr0r!sm" during the course of the eighties after 1984. They undertook many operations to infiltrate and parade around as Sikhs conmiting crimes against the.civilian population to ensure people would remember for generations to come. The real Sikh freedom fighters/milit@nts never committed crimes against the general population.
Personally there seems to be a disconnect or non-realisation of what Sikhi is and resorting to/conducting crimes of some sort?! It is mutually exclusive! A Sikh will always maintain his moral code of conduct even if he is a militant or is fighting for justice! Some may be more passionate than others but does not necessarily mean they are extreme and again someones views/sensitivities does not mean everyone is the same or they are all extreme! Perhaps it is eaay to stereotype! Is this through your own experiences or because you heard from someone? 🤔
For a Gursikh its the Gurus teaching/understanding s/he lives upon not something that is contradictory to the code of conduct!
It is really sad to know when people acrually believe the rhetoric sold to them without doing their own research! Hopefully Indy / Dr if you read this - you will do your own research. Personally in my opinion being what is defined as a "moderate" falls into the definition of what the indian state wants all Sikhs to be like? Ever ask why? Will leave that as an exercise if you or anyone chooses to probe it further!
It would be great if you get someone on that you can interview like edit: Manpreet Singh (World Sikh Parliament, as an alternative to the name mentioned in an earlier comment)| there are several well versed people who can speak on subject [As someone mentioned in comments - speak with SikhPA or Basics of Sikhi who can point you in the right direction to match your podcast/requirements (as you prefer] | sure they will assist in this matter!
Apologies if I said anything wrong, no offence intended. This subject is complicated and has so many aspects to it I am sure i've done it an injustice but hopefully put forward a comment that gives everyone more to think on, although very limited indeed!
Please do your own research and furthermore the topic of 1984 is discussed on "BOSTV" channel. Can be found here on utube. I'm sure it will give a far better, understanding than i can! 🙏
They are recent uploads so you should be able to find them easily (3 or 4 podcasts). It is a channel by Everythings13 / their other channel is called: Basics of Sikhi [not here to promote, no affiliation, just directing you to a source that is truthful and can be trusted for a balanced/unbiased view ].
Look forward to hearing more on the channel. 🙏
Please remember the use of word "Khalistan" is to deliberately be divisive (a lot of planning and marketing went into it) and anyone falling for it is in my opinion falling for the very well planned / orchestrated propaganda that originates from the indian government. As Sikhs I would argue its our duty to do the research and realise how propaganda works - it is not a conspiracy. 🙏
Other aspects could be mentioned but this comment is a lot longer than was anticipated already. Many different dots that need to be looked at in conjunction with each other to truly understanf. Difficult to look at by considering any one incident/history in isolation. Many may not see it as a war - but it continues today - just look at indian media over the last 2 years. It is collectively called "godi media" referring to Modi (the current face of "india" politics). Again urge everyone interested to do their research before arriving at any decision/conclusion on 'The Sikh Movement for Freedom'.
No offence intended. Please forgive me for any mistakes, sure there are many. Apologies for spelling. 🙏
Also you missed a crucial point...
Same Protesters were doing this 3-4 days ago outside a Gurudwara but they did it 150 meters away from Gurudwara Gate...
But in case of mandir they did it right in front of the gate to instigate and do provocative sloganing....
Also i hope you have seen the video of attack and who started it first by swinging khalistan flag sticks and using it as a weapon to attack inside temple premises...
This is not a random thing which just happened...
There was a peel police officer off duty on protest...
Certainly bringing the two tier policing out in public...
Brampton is the most hated place in Canada for a reason... every other day videos are going viral of Punjabi people irrespective of religion doing stuff not comprehenable even in Indian villages...
Sikh expo page is definitely not the credible source of info...there are much better sikh pages then that....
Also Sikh expo page is pro british muslims...
It never posts regarding the actions of British muslims towards sikh girls and women...
It didn't even mention the attack on sikh girls in Leicester for same reasons...
No post on grooming gangs either
what were the counter protesters protesting exactly other than inciting violence and oh yeah the permit allowed them to be this close and the 150 meters was the result of police presence. WTF.
@@sbains6096 There are numerous video evidences of Khalistanis bullying Hindus. Please take responsibility and stop playing victim. The Khalistanis did this deliberately. They were politely asked to leave by the devotees and they refused, then they tried to attack a lady, thats when she called all the other counter protestors. God knows the truth.
To be fair, Pannu and the separatists are kind of divisive, themselves, and causing a lot of drama... imo
Pannu is not helping, he should have calmly set up the narrative about the truth of Indian politics targeting minority groups to gain politically. Instead he started threatening and insinuating violence, not the right time for that. Sometimes it feels as if some pro-Khalistani workers are speaking in the hands of Indian Intelligence (controlled opposition strategy by India). Which I cannit agree with, targeting your own minority groups for political gains and we have to educate the majority Hindu so they wake up from the fake propaganda done to herd them into vote banks. If not, separation ?
Pannu told Hindus to leave Canada, and got scared when asked to you want part of Pakistan to make Khalistan, as he knows not to mess with Muslims and Pakistan
@Jay-b5b8y not really, indian punjabi belongs to Indian punjabi's. Pakistan scared of ttp and baloch, what u doing about that tough guy??
@Jay-b5b8y who is Punnu? He just a solicitor... Why u crying?
@@Jay-b5b8y Pakistan cannot hold itself together, tough dude. Pannun is Indian Punjabi not Pakistani.
great pod! re: a suitable guest for khalistan discussions, definitley try and get shamsher singh from NSYF, probably the best person for this.
Shamsher Singh is articulate, but he has extremist views.
@hkaur4487 I don't know the guy but what views are extreme in your opinion?
@@hkaur4487thats a bit extreme! Shamsher maybe passionate. I would not say extreme.
In fact he is one of a few people that uses his right to protestand in my opinion a passionate activist!
Using a particular case - He was one of only a very few people who made a stand against indian government officials being invited to a gurdwara to discuss government issues over a private banquet setup for them!
Not even langar - everyone should be treated the same! Langar is for everyone to take together, not in a private/vip area! Plus more to it including representation of a rogue fascist regime! [Not an opinion, factual! Based upon reports from governments and humanitarian watchdogs/NGOs.
The whole drama of hosting officials privately detracts from philosophy / Gurus maat of:
" Pangat fehr Sangat! "
They (gov officials) were confronted at The Gurdwara and made a run for it without question! Video available somewhere.
Well done Shamsher! [Salute]👍🙏
Ever since his probably been put on a hate list to frame and picture him as a what Indy/Dr deem/use a borrowed term "PKE"! Perhaps a better interpretation of which would be:
Passionate Khalistan(i) Empathiser
🙏
Always the victim
Never take accountability
And you know the full truth I guess? Just like the narrative from the defacing incidents in Australia. What a joke
@@ruffrider4986 I know you guys well enough that you lack self control and overly emotional
@@kanteya108 Enjoy your delusions bro
Guys your Vlog seems good.... impartial....
I am not versed in this issue but when in Punjab earlier this year I asked a few people if they wanted a separate Sikh state - they all said no 🤷🏽♀️ small sample but cannot help thinking this is more of a movement/issue for Sikhs outside of India.
Get in contact with SikhPA, they might be able to get you in contact with a guest for the Pod.
Bunch of idiots. No one in Punjab wants Khalistan. It’s purely a jatt movement(fringe bandars). These lot a hell bent on tainting Sikh reputation
46:57 You don't strike me as a fountain of eternal wiisdom! Say something sensible so people can understand your viewpoint.There is plenty of Indian media to do the name calling and deciding for others what they want!
Excellent point, are there any non-jatts in the Khalistan movement?
@ hardly any. I would say even 80% jatts don’t support it. I must add some are genuinely aggrieved due to police encounters and torture in 80s. But Sikhs should focus on education and progress of the community rather than attacking Hindu temples
😂😂😂 bandar sena 😂😂 are you talking abt HANUMAN and hindutva !!!!!😂😂😂😂
@@bhatra10 Jatts have been prominent in all Sikh campaigns Since time of Guru Sahiban.Sikh.people of all backgrounds want freedom!
Call out both sides then Kalistanis have been disrespecting Hindu temples is wrong so is Himdus doing it outside Gurdwaras is wrong too !
I think the solution to the khalistan issue is justice for Sikhs !! But unfortunately, Indira Gandhi's cult members including police and judges ruined cases where victims were harassed by the police and it's extremely sad to listen to survivors who told the media that judges unko gaali deke bulate the!! It was actually because of the supreme court's judicial activism that Sajjan Kumar was jailed after 37 years of the genocide!!!
@@SandeepSharma-cv3wo they won't do it and stop simping for Sikhs
@Sattvacchan look I get it 1984 was a dark day in India's history no doubt and the years that followed however this idea that only Sikhs were the victims Hindus were pulled off busses and killed for being Hindu by Sikh terrorists and blowing up an air india airoplane. India has moved on India and it's a different place now. They can have all the referendums they want India ain't giving up shit!
Veer ji seeing your proadcast
first time ,very nice and easy going. One requst please keep your language civil !
Yes the majority in PANJAB wants KHALISTAN a free Panjab!
How do we know this
A. The millions of punjabis in support and protesting during the Farmers protest.
B, bhai Amritpal making positive changes as a Khalsa and the people rallied,
Bhai Amritpal and 100s of other Khalsa Sikhs arrested and sent to jail on bogus charges yet no evidence or sentenced by judge.
there is no freedoms of speech in India for punjabis?
They still haven’t charged juggy johal from Uk yet he’s been held in jail nearly 7 years ?
Where is the justice in india?
How is Khalistan any different from calling for a Hindu rashtra? You want a region that's 50% Sikh to be officially a Sikh country while sanghis want a region where they're 80% to be officially a Hindu country. Is either of these proposed countries fair on non sikhs and non hindus.
Both sides also argue they're doing it to protect their faith and community due to past and current oppression.
Hindus who want Hindu state or Khalistanis are both wrong, but Hindutva don't attack Sikhs or Sikh religion , while Khalistanis blame all there problems of Hindus
A Khalistan rasthra would be disastrous for minorities, guaranteed. They are very anti-Hindu and they already have a adversarial past with Muslims. You need to study the movement to get the full picture of what they are all about. Its a marxist based movement that is deep state funded
No Sikhs do not want only Sikhs in Khalistan, they want all religions to be able to practice their own religion freely like in the Sikh Raaj under maharaja ranjit Singh ji. They want Sikh fair and just rules not the bullying and discrimination of Indian government.
@HapB-f5m hindutva lot say EXACT same thing. They absolutely do not say that only Hindus can live there. They say current system is unfair and gives privileges to other groups so they want to get rid of this. Why should non Sikhs have to live under Sikh laws? Everybody thinks their system is best but it's all discriminatory
@bg6358 I hate Khalistanis but Modi and there followers are also evil, they daily directly and indirectly blame Muslims for all there problems, and made life's of Hindus hard outside India as non Hindus most Hindus are Hidutva
ua-cam.com/video/QuQ-FUIRwUo/v-deo.htmlsi=PNLxSYVltNefCYYx more info from someone who witnessed 1984