Never forget that India came first in our hour of need. Reaching a hand to us. Never forget. Nowadays everything is business, but …. sometimes there are exceptions.
Armenians and Indians have been victim of the radical islamists for centuries..and thats the most important binding factor apart from historical relations
I have worked with many Indians and have Indian friends outside of work. They are good people and have many of the same worries we have. They are better partners for Armenia than Russia.
@@wimblewomble4751 Iran has a "period" every few centuries and a bunch of Iran's population moves to India. Like Parsis (Zoro's) long ago. I like it. Iranians Afghanis and Armenians have a long history with India that has proven rather friendly, even in current times. Very odd group but I like it 🤣🤣🤣.
Armenians have been the backbone of Russian technology development since USSR. They have been involved in developing and designing technology from aerospace to the military. India should start working with Armenia in development and production.
What an incredible conversation of two young men discussing the future cooperation of two great countries! It is such a pleasure listening to Manu explaining with such dignity and reason all intricate details of the weapon transactions and such a dignified attitude and responsibility of his country to the whole issue of the weapons sale. This cooperation must only increase and we will only applaud the future axis of good consisting of India, Armenia, and Europe
Great podcast! We, in India, are not desirous of a transactional relationship with Armenia, built solely on defence purchases, but one that is built on trust and friendship. Our cultural and civilizational ties going across centuries make us natural allies. If Armenia's existence is threatened by any country, it is our country's responsibility as a friend to come to your help in whatever way possible!
I think the most important thing about indian equipment is that they are cheap as well as robust.. If USA makes a missile in 10 million,,russia in 8 million,, whereas india make it in 2-3 million with same efficiency
The affordability factor primarily comes because of low salaries paid to the engineers and technicians. But that is not an issue when talking in PPP terms.
Brothers and sisters from Armenia, the whole world is now in an era of civilisational war, and Armenians and Bharatiyas (India = Bharat) are complete partners together in this. Culturally as well we have no conflict only good wishes. Indians should visit Armenia more for tourism, business, and study, and Armenians please come and visit the most incredible India, send your students too...they will later build commerce between our countries.
25:00 , it happened, Dec 2024 , India straight away rejects azeri offer , to buy 10 times more of what armenia is buying. offer came thru israelis to india
There was a recent testing of a Kamikaze drone in Armenia from Tata Advanced Systems(TASL). Surprised both of them didn't mention about it when they were talking about drone warfare.
In Chennai Madras in Southern part of India we have an Armenian Street and Armenian Church. Pasting information that I found Saint Mary Church of Chennai (Armenian: Սուրբ Աստվածածին Եկեղեցի), constructed in 1712 [1] and reconstructed in 1772, is one of the oldest churches of the Indian subcontinent, located in Chennai. It is famous for its belfry of six. The Church, also called the Armenian Church of Virgin Mary, is located on the Armenian Street in the neighbourhood of George Town.
Kolkata had a vibrant Armenian community. There is still a small Armenian community there. The Armenian Holy Church of Nazareth in Kolkata is the oldest church in the city, built in 1734.
Indians integrate and contribute to any country they immigrated to, thats why we dont force to convert others but rather beleive in beint one with the nation that hosts you.
Armenia is making a good decision building ties with Iran and India. Quickly, Cheaply, and Securely, India can deliver its goods through Iran. Russian and Armenian populations have been assaulted in foreign countries, both need to work and do what's best for them. The Russians and Armenians are good Christian people (for the most part haha) and will continue to have a thriving relationship together even after this "break up". Plus India has a LARGE arsenal of Russian equipment which Armenian AF can use easily. This is a region India needs to deliver goods to Central Asia and the Caucasus.
Israeli system which he mentioned is Barak8 which r installed in our warships which is a joint development....yeah we have LRSAM, VLARSAM system Akash NG Trail is completed with extended range.....
If Armenia needs weapons for mountain warfare then they should consider purchasing Light Combay Helicopter Prachand made by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd It will give Armenia an unprecedented advantage
19:23 India do have medium to long range Air Defense systems in development. Not to forget the Astra Air to Air missiles but they are for the airborne fighters like Sukhoi
Listening with great interest. I would caution from branding Russia as against Armenia. It makes sense for Armenia to keep the past in mind but forge a relationship with everyone.
An upgrade of the Armenian Sukhoi 30 to the super Sukhoi standard would represent a significant shift in capabilities. We are discussing the BVRAAM Astra series, Rudram series (anti-radiation air-to-ground missiles), SAAW, Gaurav, Gautam(stand off glide bombs), Virupakshya GaN AESA radar with extensive range, BrahMos air-launched supersonic missile (new generation), and more.
Neglible Armenians are interested in geopolitics even when it is a war involving their country. The National pride is non existent in war scenario, particularly women. - India Image : Apart from soviet time Bollywood, Youth doesn't know anything about india, anything different from what far North or caucus region would say. - Though, Govt ties seem to strengthen with Ideological battles and aggressive narratives. People ties will lag for decades- may even remain the same for decades, as govt ties is purely Defence & tech based, which will remain the same for decades i.e. till 2050s.
The ethos and value system of India is totally different. In Indian culture, relationships are given highest importance - much more than money. It is a natural choice to make for any Indian and no major brainstorming is reqd..
Love from India. Indian equipment is dependable, rugged and technologically advanced since they are married to a philosophy borne out of real war experience. They can stand up to anything, unlike untested Chinese system.
Umm. So what weapons should india give ..(my likings) Brahmos ( very lethal , world's best but require russia agreements also ) Tejas mk1A (4-4.5 gen , okay option but better than what ajerbaijan have) Atags (lethal artillery gun) Rudram , nirbhaya , akah ng , and maybe some loitering munition .. My opinion only
@@АнатолийВанштейн jointly developed with Russia, mutual approval for resale. But Russia should not block sale to Armenia...India has provided the same to Philippines and soon Vietnam hopefully.
@@madhukarmurthi9064 Well, what russia should do or shouldn't do is not in our power. I can only say that Armenia must change it's vector towards India and west. Russia is very unreliable ally
@@madhukarmurthi9064 It doesn't even matter if they agree to the sale, brahmos is a very costly missile and even purchasing 1 battery of the brahmos would cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Instead of brahmos sale of shorya, dhruvastra, etc short range low cost missile would be more beneficial for them as they don't need much range for their operations. And one thing they absolutely need is VSHORAD which is portable air defence to counter helicopter, drones, jets flying low to avoid radar detection. Another great system from them would be prahar missile system and parlay system which has range of 200 and 500 km respectively, but will india provide these missile to armenia remains a question as the weapon india have provided are not highly complicated systems expect the radar but these missile system would be another talk altogether.
Many of India's foreign minorities left the country frustrated by the slow economic growth during our socialist era. Otherwise, India would have been a much more cosmopolitan country.
@@tamberlame27rhe thing is india is democratic plus highest populated country. no rules in democratix style regime can manage so many number of people.
We are waiting Indian brothers to visit Armenia. We need more Indians to come settle in Armenia and marry our girls to increase our population because our population is so small. India-Armenia forever together.
The Pakistani are doing a very good job of that in Turkey tho. You must support that. Indians are primarily there wherever they go to learn, build businesses or take a high paying Software, Computer science job and pay taxes. They have no other intention or wishes.
This analystdoesnt understand weapon systems. He keeps talking artillery guns. The first export was swathi radar systems. Pinaka is better than the russian mbrls it replaced etc. This guy is clueless.
I don't care about Times of India or Economic Times. They are too Far Left to make any sense. But Manu Pubby is a name that's known for credibility since I have started to learn and research about Indian Defence since 2010's.
There's like 4000 Armenians in India so I don't get it. There's more Armenians in France. I don't think Armenia ever really had deep relations with India, merchants did, sure, but no real communities. The relationship between Armenia and Europe though is far older.
As I understood it nearly 3,000 years ago on the very Outpost of the ancient Indian spice route was a place called Hayastan, next to the northern province of Persia called Azurebajan, India essentially sent people to Asia Minor to guard the spice route...and this is where Armenia is today. Our connection to India goes back to our very inception as a state.im going to do some more research on the subject, keep you posted.
There were communities of Armenians in all major Indian port cities throughout history- it's pretty well documented. There are still churches and other community buildings, but barring Kolkata they've slowly been absorbed into indian society. Also indian traders along the spice routes, but idk much about this. There were historical ties for sure that have been neglected and forgotten. Are they worth reviving? Idk, that's up to Armenians and indians
@@djsjsjjejebfbdj Many of India's foreign minorities left the country frustrated by the slow economic growth during our socialist era. Otherwise, India would have been a much more cosmopolitan country.
Russian will be happy if India is there Russian don't trust Chinese remember that. And Indian weapons are thoroughly tested in the most harsh conditions in the world. And our defence export is growing in the years 2023-2024 our half of defence export goes to USA.
Hey India 🇮🇳, now you can send the weapons that were originally headed to Israel to Armenia instead 😂. Stand on right side of history India, you can't play on both sides of the fence. Or the family jewels will get caught in between..
Aer u kidding? India always played on all sides. To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. India works on a transactional basis.
@raxkrat8803 well ask the PAKISTANIs and Chinese how are they feeling after their family jewels got completely crushed , annihilated by India in all previous wars despite the fact that both China and Pakistan always had full backing and supplies from West EU states. 😊
This guy doesn't know much about Indian defense products, India has a lot of defense product capabilities which can be very useful for Armenia, well this kind of thing should keep happening.
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There is something more than just business & money in geopolitics & geostrategy.
India should help Armenia become a Nuclear power.
Love to India from Armenia
Love back from INDIA to Armenia ❤
@@martin96991 ❤❤❤❤
@@cyclonemc7915 Just a whisle, if 🦃 does anything we will send u recipe of 🦃 dishes.
Then come back to motherland india😂
@@yusifhasanli7823 pakiSRAN
Never forget that India came first in our hour of need. Reaching a hand to us. Never forget. Nowadays everything is business, but …. sometimes there are exceptions.
🇮🇳🤝🇦🇲
Armenians and Indians have been victim of the radical islamists for centuries..and thats the most important binding factor apart from historical relations
Absolutely correct....our enemies are same
So, good to see, Indians and Armenians developing good understanding about each other.
Two ancient civilizations should strengthen their ties, there's no other choice 🇦🇲♥️🇮🇳
I have worked with many Indians and have Indian friends outside of work. They are good people and have many of the same worries we have. They are better partners for Armenia than Russia.
My Armenian family moved to India from Isfahan during the Mughal Empire and only left in the 1950s
Part of my Armenian family moved to India (patna) from isfahan in the 1900s
@@wimblewomble4751 Iran has a "period" every few centuries and a bunch of Iran's population moves to India. Like Parsis (Zoro's) long ago.
I like it. Iranians Afghanis and Armenians have a long history with India that has proven rather friendly, even in current times.
Very odd group but I like it 🤣🤣🤣.
@@theiranianputin2770 ur naive.
@@surojeetchatterjee 🥱
@@theiranianputin2770 gayran as usual. 😂
Armenians have been the backbone of Russian technology development since USSR. They have been involved in developing and designing technology from aerospace to the military. India should start working with Armenia in development and production.
India should employ Armenian experts in Indian R&D.
@@captainnemo8072Armenian Talent with Indian Manpower can achieve incredible things.
What an incredible conversation of two young men discussing the future cooperation of two great countries! It is such a pleasure listening to Manu explaining with such dignity and reason all intricate details of the weapon transactions and such a dignified attitude and responsibility of his country to the whole issue of the weapons sale. This cooperation must only increase and we will only applaud the future axis of good consisting of India, Armenia, and Europe
Great podcast! We, in India, are not desirous of a transactional relationship with Armenia, built solely on defence purchases, but one that is built on trust and friendship. Our cultural and civilizational ties going across centuries make us natural allies. If Armenia's existence is threatened by any country, it is our country's responsibility as a friend to come to your help in whatever way possible!
I think the most important thing about indian equipment is that they are cheap as well as robust..
If USA makes a missile in 10 million,,russia in 8 million,, whereas india make it in 2-3 million with same efficiency
Not cheap but Affordable, coast efficient.....
The affordability factor primarily comes because of low salaries paid to the engineers and technicians. But that is not an issue when talking in PPP terms.
V@@varun2250 the pay is açcordind to our curency if u in USA Ur pay is more dame is the cost of living
It is because they are proper made in india
thanks for the kind words to all armenians😍 . Indian is always with you
A sensible and peaceful conversation conversation.. watching at 03:04am while having a good cup of tea❤
Love from India to armenia people...
Thank you India for extending your hand of support to Armenia.
Brothers and sisters from Armenia, the whole world is now in an era of civilisational war, and Armenians and Bharatiyas (India = Bharat) are complete partners together in this. Culturally as well we have no conflict only good wishes. Indians should visit Armenia more for tourism, business, and study, and Armenians please come and visit the most incredible India, send your students too...they will later build commerce between our countries.
great interview and insights, thank you both
25:00 , it happened, Dec 2024 ,
India straight away rejects azeri offer , to buy 10 times more of what armenia is buying.
offer came thru israelis to india
As long as Armenia need support and help in fighting that particular community and mindset we are always their.
Protect your Land
Protect your People.
19:39 Barak systems could be an useful for that purpose. Also Prithvi AAD is a much more advanced SAM system.
Prithvi AAD can't be used against fighter jets.
It's sole purpose is against Ballistic missiles
Brilliand podcast - keep ‘em coming! 🙌🏼
There was a recent testing of a Kamikaze drone in Armenia from Tata Advanced Systems(TASL).
Surprised both of them didn't mention about it when they were talking about drone warfare.
In Chennai Madras in Southern part of India we have an Armenian Street and Armenian Church. Pasting information that I found Saint Mary Church of Chennai (Armenian: Սուրբ Աստվածածին Եկեղեցի), constructed in 1712 [1] and reconstructed in 1772, is one of the oldest churches of the Indian subcontinent, located in Chennai. It is famous for its belfry of six. The Church, also called the Armenian Church of Virgin Mary, is located on the Armenian Street in the neighbourhood of George Town.
i was there in last year ..amazing architecture
Many armenian churches are in kolkata also 😊😊
The Holy Nazareth Church is located in the northwest corner of Burrabazar in the Central Kolkata area.
@@Chamatkari_BAb we have Armenian Ghat as well
Kolkata had a vibrant Armenian community. There is still a small Armenian community there. The Armenian Holy Church of Nazareth in Kolkata is the oldest church in the city, built in 1734.
Much love to India and Indians, our eternal cousins ❤❤❤
🇦🇲 🤝 🇮🇳
Indians integrate and contribute to any country they immigrated to, thats why we dont force to convert others but rather beleive in beint one with the nation that hosts you.
Armenia is making a good decision building ties with Iran and India.
Quickly, Cheaply, and Securely, India can deliver its goods through Iran.
Russian and Armenian populations have been assaulted in foreign countries, both need to work and do what's best for them.
The Russians and Armenians are good Christian people (for the most part haha) and will continue to have a thriving relationship together even after this "break up".
Plus India has a LARGE arsenal of Russian equipment which Armenian AF can use easily.
This is a region India needs to deliver goods to Central Asia and the Caucasus.
@@theiranianputin2770 We can send them weapons through goergia as well. Don't over estimate ur utility.
@@surojeetchatterjee lol Georgia
India wants Iran on our side. Hope your new president normalizes relations with the West.
@@surojeetchatterjee abe Tu pagal hai kya...
❤️ to 🇮🇳
We have much more in defence sector, armenia should consider to acquire quickly
Indian technology is cheap but robust and reliable since our military never accepts subpar new products. They are thoroughly tested before induction.
Your thinking is Cheap , your vocabulary is cheaper and you are the cheapest
Indian technology is cost effective, learn the word "cheapo"
Israeli system which he mentioned is Barak8 which r installed in our warships which is a joint development....yeah we have LRSAM, VLARSAM system Akash NG Trail is completed with extended range.....
If Armenia needs weapons for mountain warfare then they should consider purchasing Light Combay Helicopter Prachand made by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd
It will give Armenia an unprecedented advantage
INDIA 🇮🇳❤️ ARMENIA 🇦🇲
19:23 India do have medium to long range Air Defense systems in development.
Not to forget the Astra Air to Air missiles but they are for the airborne fighters like Sukhoi
Indian here this was a good convo
Listening with great interest. I would caution from branding Russia as against Armenia. It makes sense for Armenia to keep the past in mind but forge a relationship with everyone.
Well india is friends with russia too...
Very good podcast
very good conversation
An upgrade of the Armenian Sukhoi 30 to the super Sukhoi standard would represent a significant shift in capabilities. We are discussing the BVRAAM Astra series, Rudram series (anti-radiation air-to-ground missiles), SAAW, Gaurav, Gautam(stand off glide bombs), Virupakshya GaN AESA radar with extensive range, BrahMos air-launched supersonic missile (new generation), and more.
Much needed podcast.
INDO - ARMENIA ties is a good start at the right opportune moment.
India is a great country 🇦🇲🇮🇳. He is very right, Armenian presence in India goes back to centuries.
Long live Armenia 🇦🇲 May you evolve and prosper.
We are you with you Armenia we are against extremists and illegal occupiers anywhere, love from India
Great
👍
Great podcast
The United States is India’s largest defense industry customer. Armenia is a distant second followed by France.
Neglible Armenians are interested in geopolitics even when it is a war involving their country. The National pride is non existent in war scenario, particularly women.
- India Image : Apart from soviet time Bollywood, Youth doesn't know anything about india, anything different from what far North or caucus region would say.
- Though, Govt ties seem to strengthen with Ideological battles and aggressive narratives. People ties will lag for decades- may even remain the same for decades, as govt ties is purely Defence & tech based, which will remain the same for decades i.e. till 2050s.
Full support to our Armenian brothers 👍🏻
Would be great to continue building ties with Armenia.
Got to learn quite a lot from the conversation. Long live India🇮🇳 Armenian🇦🇲 ties❤❤❤
Love from India 🇮🇳❤🇦🇲
Baku is Armenian city forever.
🇮🇳❤🇦🇲
The ethos and value system of India is totally different. In Indian culture, relationships are given highest importance - much more than money. It is a natural choice to make for any Indian and no major brainstorming is reqd..
Love from India. Indian equipment is dependable, rugged and technologically advanced since they are married to a philosophy borne out of real war experience. They can stand up to anything, unlike untested Chinese system.
Indians are always loyal to the soil which feed us.
India is the future.❤
👍👍👍👍
Umm. So what weapons should india give ..(my likings)
Brahmos ( very lethal , world's best but require russia agreements also )
Tejas mk1A (4-4.5 gen , okay option but better than what ajerbaijan have)
Atags (lethal artillery gun)
Rudram , nirbhaya , akah ng , and maybe some loitering munition ..
My opinion only
why brahmos requires russian agreement?
@@АнатолийВанштейн jointly developed with Russia, mutual approval for resale. But Russia should not block sale to Armenia...India has provided the same to Philippines and soon Vietnam hopefully.
@@madhukarmurthi9064 Well, what russia should do or shouldn't do is not in our power. I can only say that Armenia must change it's vector towards India and west. Russia is very unreliable ally
@@madhukarmurthi9064 It doesn't even matter if they agree to the sale, brahmos is a very costly missile and even purchasing 1 battery of the brahmos would cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Instead of brahmos sale of shorya, dhruvastra, etc short range low cost missile would be more beneficial for them as they don't need much range for their operations. And one thing they absolutely need is VSHORAD which is portable air defence to counter helicopter, drones, jets flying low to avoid radar detection. Another great system from them would be prahar missile system and parlay system which has range of 200 and 500 km respectively, but will india provide these missile to armenia remains a question as the weapon india have provided are not highly complicated systems expect the radar but these missile system would be another talk altogether.
Many of India's foreign minorities left the country frustrated by the slow economic growth during our socialist era. Otherwise, India would have been a much more cosmopolitan country.
100 percent. If India was a clean country with decent infrastructure a lot of minorities would not have left like the Jews to Israel.
@@tamberlame27 services and infrastructure comes with economy.
@@captainnemo8072 infrastructure yes. Cleanliness no. There are a lot of clean countries which are way poorer than we are.
@@tamberlame27rhe thing is india is democratic plus highest populated country.
no rules in democratix style regime can manage so many number of people.
ISLAM IS A THREAT
For civilization
Has france placed an order for pinaca missile yet?
27:47 😂
🇮🇳🤝🇦🇲
So the Turks have abandoned the Uyghurs?
@@captainnemo8072 Never !
We are waiting Indian brothers to visit Armenia. We need more Indians to come settle in Armenia and marry our girls to increase our population because our population is so small. India-Armenia forever together.
Hmmm you are turk commenting in a sarcastic way , your previous comment you say you are a turk?
The Pakistani are doing a very good job of that in Turkey tho. You must support that.
Indians are primarily there wherever they go to learn, build businesses or take a high paying Software, Computer science job and pay taxes. They have no other intention or wishes.
Indians like Turkish girls, Azergayjan population needs to be increased by India.
I bet in reality turkey's population is declining and Syrian men are helping out the turks.
🤣 R U seri.. as n Indian ?😂
🇦🇲 🤝 🇮🇳😊
Best thing comes out is Turkey - Pakistan - China nexus building up....
This analystdoesnt understand weapon systems. He keeps talking artillery guns. The first export was swathi radar systems. Pinaka is better than the russian mbrls it replaced etc. This guy is clueless.
Dude Greek and Cyproits are same people
India🇮🇳🫂Armenia 🇦🇲
Can we export Agni v to Armenia 💀💀
no it is over kill
I don't think economics time's person have proper knowledge about India's defence systems.
I don't care about Times of India or Economic Times. They are too Far Left to make any sense.
But Manu Pubby is a name that's known for credibility since I have started to learn and research about Indian Defence since 2010's.
Хаи это индийские цыгане
🦃🦃🦃🦃🍗🍗🍗😋😋😋
Если сравнить с турками ты цыгане цивилизованный добрый народ
There's like 4000 Armenians in India so I don't get it. There's more Armenians in France. I don't think Armenia ever really had deep relations with India, merchants did, sure, but no real communities. The relationship between Armenia and Europe though is far older.
As I understood it nearly 3,000 years ago on the very Outpost of the ancient Indian spice route was a place called Hayastan, next to the northern province of Persia called Azurebajan, India essentially sent people to Asia Minor to guard the spice route...and this is where Armenia is today. Our connection to India goes back to our very inception as a state.im going to do some more research on the subject, keep you posted.
There were communities of Armenians in all major Indian port cities throughout history- it's pretty well documented. There are still churches and other community buildings, but barring Kolkata they've slowly been absorbed into indian society. Also indian traders along the spice routes, but idk much about this.
There were historical ties for sure that have been neglected and forgotten. Are they worth reviving? Idk, that's up to Armenians and indians
India Armenia goes back when there was no europe
@@djsjsjjejebfbdj Many of India's foreign minorities left the country frustrated by the slow economic growth during our socialist era. Otherwise, India would have been a much more cosmopolitan country.
remember, man, india bought military equipmrnts from russia. so, armenia commited mistake by ignoring russia for indian weaponry
You got to pay attention to this stuff Armenia has been begging Russia for the weapons that that we paid for years ago.
Russian will be happy if India is there Russian don't trust Chinese remember that. And Indian weapons are thoroughly tested in the most harsh conditions in the world. And our defence export is growing in the years 2023-2024 our half of defence export goes to USA.
Whatever the equipment India has supplied to Armenia, no Russian systems have been newly bought in that category for Indian Armed forces
Hey India 🇮🇳, now you can send the weapons that were originally headed to Israel to Armenia instead 😂.
Stand on right side of history India, you can't play on both sides of the fence. Or the family jewels will get caught in between..
What nation are you from ?
Aer u kidding? India always played on all sides. To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal. India works on a transactional basis.
@raxkrat8803 well ask the PAKISTANIs and Chinese how are they feeling after their family jewels got completely crushed , annihilated by India in all previous wars despite the fact that both China and Pakistan always had full backing and supplies from West EU states. 😊
There's plenty of supply capacity for both Armenia and Israel if both of them ever ask at the same time
We have unlimited weapons for both. We have our own side, why would a powerful nation will follow any side like cattle ?
Armenia ❤️ india
This guy doesn't know much about Indian defense products, India has a lot of defense product capabilities which can be very useful for Armenia, well this kind of thing should keep happening.
Pinaka MBRL is robust system, it got firepower, 12 rocket can neutralize 1sq km
We Indians are the experts in Jugad😅
We will buy indian weapons? Hahah they failed miserably repeatedly .
Bruh, when? Even when launched by mistake of our officers, our missiles know to hit the enemy country.😂😂😂
india pearl in manure
😂😂 cry more
Wow big achievement for two 2️⃣ losers wow
Yes kboom 😂😂😂