Installing Modern Windows on a 14 Year Old Tablet
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2017
- I've received plenty of interesting recommendations for what software I should try on my TC1100 Tablet, so here's a quick run through some of the more popular suggestions, along with a few I was curious about myself.
- Наука та технологія
The tablet is 16 it is driving its first car this year
I am so proud on how far we have came
it would be a great driver.
Tablet : *Crashes The Car*
Marilyn's random corner good one!
0EmilyFox0 aaaaaavfervvfewecdaceedcadqecedqcrtyhuk,y
2 more years and it'll legal ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Seems really good to be made 14 Years Ago.
SylenDraws this could be a cheep art tablet.
never knew tablets existed 14 years ago !
The pentium 4 was horrible. An amd athlon xp at 2.0GHz from about the same time could easily beat a pentium 4 at 3GHz performance-wise. There's more to a processor than the clock speed and core count.
This is not really accurate
larso
No the quality of a CPU is only determined by clock speed and amount of cores.
That is why I tape and glue a bunch threadrippers together and pour liquid nitrogen on them so that I can play Minecraft and Roblox with high graphics.
I wish you have kept the SSD and ran all these experiments.
Phantom_Wolf52 stfu
@@phantom_wolf5274 ran*
this tablet use IDE conector not SATA conector.
Actually 2 gigs of ram isn't bad for such an old tablet. More than some phones even today.
Oddly Windows 7 and 8 look like they work the best on this tablet.
*imagine using a phone with less than 2gb of ram these days*
@@Connie_TinuityError right
You could try upgrading to Windows 10 from within Windows 8, instead of installing Windows 10 from scratch.
My thoughts exactly. This could actually work.
Even if it means wasting another couple of hours on trying to got that route...
I reckon that might work
Antonio Stella bottom tile
The requirements for Windows 8.1 are the same. Looked it up, Windows 8.1 also needs PAE, NX and SSE2.
No problem, Its still interesting How Windows 8.1 does run and 10 Doesnt. i have a very similar Tablet PC and its the same. 8.1 Works, the Windows 10 Installer on the othe side Is stuck at the windows Logo. Maybe they Didnt Enforced These Features on windows 8.1...
I have old laptop with Celeron 1.4 GHz, and intl 855 graphics without WDDM support, windows 8.1 works, but windows 10 can't start, but windows 10 insider preview works
It's actually quite amazing that so many new OSes can run on such outdated hardware. MS might screw up a lot of things but that's impressive.
Hi coming from the future! Yes you are correct. Windows 11 screw up stuff (TPM AND SECURE BOOT) Screw you, TPM!
Me: mom can we get a tablet
Mom: we have a tablet at home!
Tablet at home:
Eric Juul at least it can run windows 9.
Mom stole one 0:12
Your tablet at home is better
Still i have one
@@geometrikselfelsefesi i have win 10 tablet NOT SURFICE
Having to restart the pc to apply a new resolution was a memory I would love to remove from my history
69 likes lmao
But can it run doom?
The ghost of Sammy classic Sonic fan can it run crysis?
The ghost of Sammy classic Sonic fan the real question...
*måybë*
Crysis...? Not as it is, but the WiFi card is a Mini PCIe card so it may be possible to remove that and hook up an external GPU adapter; if it is THEN it COULD haha
RWL2012 no it can't because of the crappy pentium m processor
0:18 I heard Bonzi Buddy in the mess of sounds
Same here
Game show producer Mark Goodson chosen this sound as the theme on "The Price Is Right".
Jack Burzynski same
also, Tooterals
same
14 YEAR OLD TABLET
Windows 95: OK
Windows 98: OK
Windows XP: OK
Windows Vista: OK
Windows 7: OK
Windows 8: OK
Windows 8.1: OK
Windows 10: **crashes**
EDIT: Why I gave myself a like...
What about linux distro mint ..
@@alubaldini | I don't know.
windows 10 is garbage
Minecraft TV
damn right,everyday updates?
F that man!
It has a great OS taste (except windows 8 and 8.1)
When I saw this in my recommended videos, I just thought “I really can’t lose it!”
Can we please have a moment to appreciate the hardware as well, brought to you by HP Compaq. Such a fine piece of machine able to run anything from 95 to windows 8.
this whole time i thought it said "installing modern warfare on a 14 year old tablet" and ive been waiting for him to choose his os and try download steam or something.
MoreThanPlaying that’s why I clicked the video
But can it run for a few miles?
Uh, For a few miles needs very high end processor to work. Sorry about that.
no
Lol good joke!
xD
No just no omg I heard enough jokes today
Wow dude, you certainly did install a bunch of OS's - thanks for the upload. It was very interesting to see how each of them ran 👍😀
0:35
Ah,that classic wallpaper screams nostalgia
"can it run bonzibuddy"
Better when launch CD version on The Price Is Right.
can it run crysis
Flashlight can it run Protegent?
It will run bonzi buddi on medium 800x600
Your thing has 20 gb space windows 10 is 26 gb so it will not work anyway
Win10 installs to ~14GB these days, that being said i think they increased the drive requirement to 32 for updates., but it used to be closer to 20. I have an htpc which ran win 10 on an old 32GB ssd for a while there, media was on a spinner of course.
There are tables shipping with Windows 10 that only have a 16GB eMMC module installed...
16GB is minimum.
I've put windows 10 on a16gb ssd no problem, had to use a USB intaller
@@b.eduardo5105 You're going to run into space issues very quick, though
0:17 I heard 'Can it run Bonzi Buddy?'
lol
I remember finding a "tablet mode" hidden in the settings of Windows XP back around 2003. I had no idea what a "tablet" was and they didn't really become mainstream until about 2008.
I guess Windows always hides some future tech in their current distributions. Found software that was locked about a year ago for some "augmented reality" device called a "holo-lense". If the same scenario plays out, maybe we'll all be wearing those things in 5 years.
just google hololens. it's not like its a secret
Went into the files of a Windows XP computer back around 2012 (an Acer AspireOne notebook from 2005, still got it, but it's broken, had an Atom processor) and found 3D models of Microsoft game controllers. It was random but still pretty cool to find even 5 years later. Maybe I can still find them in a XP VM. I remember they were in system32. Better not delete that.
That's the thing with Windows.
A lot of stuff doesn't get completed in time for shipping, so MS polishes off the non finished parts, leaves them in there so they can be completed for the next Windows. Like Cshell, it's being implemented bit by bit in each new Windows.
I've seen tablets in electronics shows back in 2002... they were usually hybrid laptops with screens that could pivot 180° at the center and then lay flat on top of the keyboard. The price tag was around $3500 for the entry level devices and compared with a premium IBM thinkpad kit (with dock) the price was hard to justify. Even the HP Ipaq models of 2001 could beat these 15 inch tablet/laptop devices in terms of productivity and portability costing 1/6 less. Graphical designers were still using wacom boards which ironically were also known as tablet input devices.
win 3.0 eara had a tablet with a 486 cpu
WINDOWS XP TABLET?! i need this
Windows XP imagine playing PC games on a tablet...
pimp gaming you can in the future razer is developing a tablet that can run pc games
Jac Hau in the future phones will have 10 TB and can run pc games ultra settings + 8k
Windows XP 😂😂
pimp gaming you can do that with a surface book 2
I like that you pointed out that Windows 7 is much like Vista, and Windows 10 would have been much like 8.1. I've often said this, and critics of Vista and 8 seem to forget that most of the new features those OS's introduced made it into 7 and 10 which they miraculously love.
Woah, many works here just for this show. Kudos for your efforts!
0:19 You can faintly hear "Bonzi Buddy"
Kåppåpåkå
Tooterals? *TOOTERALS?*
Wha- what did you say? Too- Tooterals?
Spotted one of these on craigslist and I had to have it after seeing your video. Bought it for $20 with the keyboard dock.
great deal!
How did he waste it if he wanted it and it made him probably happy to have it?
Plus it's a part of electronic history.
A steal compared to the $1000+ price tag online.
I'll buy for 21 dollar. U happy, I happy, then u can buy mcdouble from profit :P
🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔
Doesnt that look tastey? :P
I'm amazed that you managed to experiment on it so much without the 14-year-old device overheating and catching on fire.
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We got your Windows 95 key. It will be installed on one MILLION of machines!
GIVE US YOUR SMOOTH JAZZ PLAYLIST
thats not smooth jazz
Dragonfreakgaming what is it
yeah, what's the music on the background and the playlist if you by any chance may know?
Lewd Bandana it's only a piano track you Billboard editor
lel xD hahahah
Not all Windows versions before XP were DOS-based. The ones that were, were Windows 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 3.1, Windows 95, 98, 98SE, and ME. Windows XP itself is based on Windows 2000, which is based on Windows NT 4.0.
... and NT 4.0 was based on NT 3.51... which in turn was based on NT 3.5.. ;)
and dos was beginning of this all
M. V. Shooting Also, Windows 9x (95, 95 OSR2, 98. 98SE, Me) used their own built-in DOS 7.x . And I'm fairly sure at least Windows 3.1 and later could install from a hard drive after just copying the files from the floppies to a directory. Beware though that USB support was mostly lacking before Windows 98.
NT6.x ===> NT10
I had this thing and I had not the best experience honestly but I can not say I hate it. Nice to see someone who is interested in such things
I have the third version of this which is the Tc4400. The cpu is 2ghz and they have made into a laptop/ tablet. I have had it for a few years now with windows 7 installed and works like a charm. I was originally going to buy this tablet back in 2011, but bought the Tc4200 which is the second version of this tablet and looks very identical to the Tc4400.
I've got a bit of a thing for unusual hardware from around this era and have a TC1000 and a TC1100. I can't say I ever felt compelled to take a shot at trying these other operating systems to work on it, but it's nice to know how it performed. As it turns out Vista and later all require the NX / PAE functionality to work to install and this generation chip was the very first to include it. I tried installing Vista & 7 on a earlier gen Pentium M (in a Dell 710m) and that is when i discovered why it wouldn't install.
Thank you though.
mikes78 Hi. Do you have recovery image for tc1100? May I ask you share it?
*This is what I needed today.*
It hurt me every time you called it Windows 3 1.
Joseph WEEE WHUUUUUU WEEEE WHUUUU WEEEE WHUUUUU
He said 3 1 because it is 3.1
And 8 1
I always said three point one
love how windows 3.11 runs like a bag of bones, rendering slow, yet windows 10 some how makes the gpu run so much faster than my 1080 LOL (good one) lol
Software rendering. Thats why
I had a. TC1000, it was lovely to look at and very practical. But it was super slow.
AuntyM66 the surface line of PCs are its true successors
But can it run Crysis?
Yes, at exactly 2 YPF (years per frame).
lololol 2 ypf thats fast i never see before.
Miroslav Majstorovic, you mean fpy- frames per year. Years per frame would be fucking fast.
No, I've meant years per frame, meaning that it would be so slow that 2 years would have to pass to see one frame :D...it was just meant to be a silly joke....
Miroslav Majstorovic 2 years per frame means 2 years fit in one frame, but frames per year means it takes 1 year for one frame to pass
I always wanted one of these back in 2004. So cool.
Create a bare-bones installation of Windows 10 on another PC, and run Sysprep. When done, clone the hdd and deploy it to the tablet.
Ran my somewhat newer Motion Computing tablet on Windows 10 - found it worked best with Windows 7, since the tablet PC input panel for W7 works way better for pen-only machines than the W10 version.
About the "whatever I choose, someone will tell me I should've used something else" part: you should have used something with lxde, lxqt or xfce for the desktop environment. Those are really light (especially compared to Unity), so they wouldn't run like crap.
Bodhi Linux
I love it when tech utubers do a full tutorial on something nobody in the right mind but themselves is going to do.
One of my Fav tablet, I still have one!
*E X P A N D D O N G*
*FEATURE* *LENGTH*
Y O T E N G O
Lrtzeh YOUR OPINION
blyat420 DOOOOOOOOONG
*T H I S A E R E C T W I N D O W S X P*
Your videos are awesome, keep it up :)
The opening is gold
My friend had this tablet. We installed so many Windows and Linux OS's on it. It was soooo much fun.
And yes, we installed Windows 10. Only, this was the first Windows 10 version that Microsoft sent me as a BETA tester. NONE of the retail versions were as good.
You can install Windows 10 on that, what you have to do is you got to take out the hard drive put it in a different computer and upgrade from like Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 this is happened to me on multiple computers and it worked for me
but.... can it run crysis????
Hmm. Are you able to run WTG(Windows to Go) on it? Just curious
edit : -power- resources
I'm not a computer pro but i know that windows 10 detects it's a laptop and it requests more power (same as windows 8.1) so because of the small amount of power it was giving to windows it couldnt boot up really fast.
theoretically it would boot up.
but not after 10 hours of waiting.
2Gb of ram, that’s the same amount of ram that’s used in today’s iPad Pro.
Tasso gamer ipad pro has 3-4 gb ram
NA it has 3, my mistake. Still ain’t a lot but iOS is very optimized so 3 is plenty.
It has 4
My phone has 3😂
ByZekrom Nowadays phones typically have 4-6 GB of RAM (some even 8).
Lol I heard Bonzi Buddy at 0:17
Me too. I heard it from game show The Price Is Right.
Table Pocket same
My first memory of Windows XP and the dialup days.
You still had dial up during the Windows XP days? I thought most people moved on to cable and DSL by then. I had dial up for Windows 3.1, 95 and 98, then remember finally getting a cable modem when I had XP, I thought I was one of the last to finally move away from dial up, I guess not. lol
There is a trick to install Win 10 on older intel processors, which lacks certain features (PAE, NX, SSE2) required as pre-requisites for Win 10 installer. First, create partition of your 20GB HDD, using Win 7 install disk, then install Win 7 in C:\ and then after booting into Win 7, copy entire installer DVD into D:\ and then don't run setup.exe from root directory. This installer runs by default when you try to install Win 10 from DVD/USB and it will check for processor features mentioned earlier. There is another installer inside 'sources' folder, run this setup.exe and initiate os upgrade from Win 7. This setup.exe from sources folder will bypass processor requirements. I have upgraded my Compaq 510 Laptop from Win 7, having older Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5870, which doesn't qualify to requirements laid down by Win 10. Try this trick with your tablet, it might work in your case.
lol, you should keep this tablet in museum, 😂
i have an asus and it runs win 8.1 but i installed classic shell and it replaced the start screen into a start menu
Oh man. Id love to have one of these running debian!
I’ve watched this like 4 times legit it’s that good
Windows ten have an interresting perk:
install it on a VM or in the closest hardware possible to the target computer, and when it asks for the reboot, simply shutdown and take the disk to the target computer.
if it fails, try to let the "initial launch" do its thing on any computer/VM, then when it's all booted (a bit tweaked for optimization too, it never hurts), shut down, and take it to your target computer. W10 is quite okay at handling hardware swap, to a point that I already had no issue (for science) taking one install of windows ten from a first gen mobile i5 to a desktop 4th gen i7 extreme, then a mobile 1rst gen i3 to a p8700, and back to the mobile i5 to check the damages. Well, outside of an unused driver shitstorm collection, no quacks whatsoever!
PS: don't let gpu driver install themself tho, or uninstall them just before swap, or it will be a night"ware".
Wow, so windows 10 is essentially portable? Also how do you stop the GPU install - start in safe mode?
No, as it tend to keep traces of each hardware it has been on, and won't pass through some particular differences.
2 examples:
-If you installed it with or without UEFI, swaping to a computer of which the bios is configured to a different method won't work. It will simply not boot.
That's why I advise to start from a VM, as you can easilly tweak the emulation to create an environement close to the target computer.
-If you take the drive of a lenovo x200 running windows 10 to a x201, the two computers are really similar so the need of driver update is minimal. Still, the wifi card and ethernet card will have a number after the default name, because it hasn't uninstalled the old hardware. If it were trully portable, it would install the drivers in a disposable folder it could discard to start anew after a swap.
So no, Windows 10 is not Windows-to-go, it is not portable, but as I said, handle swaps really well ;)
+ About the GPU driver: I meant don't let it install the brand-accurate driver. Aka, don't let it connect to the internet if you plan for a swap, so it sticks to the base compatibility driver and doesn't download useless crap.... else, uninstall it properly.
Ok, can you get off my recommended now?
shut up
I recommend this video for you! - ua-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/v-deo.html
Nice
nope
TheRotem27 TWO WORDS : “NOT INTERESTED”
Wow! This is a nice tablet! Could you upgrade the hardware (customize it) and turn it into specifically a graphics tablet just for fun? Or would new more powerful hardware melt it (lol)
Have you experienced a noticeable increase in speed when you added the SSD?
What OS are you using with an SSD installed in the tablet, and what SSD do you have?
I have the same tablet and was considering putting in an SSD and running Xubuntu on it...
Doctor: you have 1 minute to live
Time card: 1 minute later
Me: (windows shutdown sound)
Just use 7 or 8 and be Happy , Love it :) QC
Windows 3.1’s floppy files can also be all put in one folder for installation.
You don’t need to install it by virtually switching discs.
You can test installing win10 in a virtual machine, then run "sysprep", and the moment the VN is restarting you can use Acronis to make a "backup image", then you can deploy that image in the tablet.
"does it run wpaulwmapbjir
BONZI BUDDY"
You could try Xubuntu as an alternative to Ubuntu (or install Xfce onto Ubuntu). The low graphics requirements are perfect for that kind of hardware.
meltstrap that's the distro I use, and I really like Xfce as a desktop
Finding Linux touchscreen drivers for older tablets can be very difficult.
Got this in my reccomended 20 times i watch it always
I'd assume this kind of old hardware is where the lite/stripped-down unofficial versions of Windows would shine.
What about Windows NT? Pre XP but not DOS based... :P
Which one? 3.5, 3.51, or 4.0
Somehow I assumed it was a Druaga upload based on the title
Crazy how this was 7 years before iPad. Amazing how relatively minor changes in ease of access and marketting have such a huge impact on sales.
Let's give the iPad the credit it deserves: it wasn't just marketing an UI design (although the UI was pretty neat). The iPad came around a time when Microsoft were almost boasting about how their Windows NT 6.x line of OSes required 2GB of RAM and a dual-core 2GHz CPU just to deliver a decent user experience, not to mention the 15GBs of hard-drive space required just for OS installation. Then the iPad is revealed and Microsoft realises they have no OS that could run on such a lightweight (read: low-powered) piece of hardware, other than maybe Windows CE which was on its way to retirement by that point. Microsoft had probably guessed that something like this was on the horizon after the iPhone, but I guess they were never expecting the iPad to do so many PC-like things so well. It truly sent shockwaves through the industry (from which Microsoft still tries to recover). There is a reason OS requirements for Windows have being kept at a Vista/7 level since then.
@@user-yg4kj2mf1p oh I didnt realize that about windows, so Microsoft has been trying to keep hardware requirements the same since win vista/7? Maybe to one day compete as a lightweight software?
@@kewlnes987 Microsoft is definitely trying to "move Windows downwards" and position it as a tablet OS... With Windows CE having been retired (not to say it was ever relevant) and with Microsoft's attempt to sell Windows without Windows compatibility (aka "Windows RT") having fallen flat on its face, Microsoft are definitely trying to position the full version of Windows as an OS suitable from Desktops all the way down to small tablets.
So yes, performance is a focus area now. They don't even have to reduce requirements, just not make it worse so mobile hardware catch up. BTW I am not saying Microsoft artificially inflated Windows requirements during the Vista era, it's just that performance wasn't a focus area back then and bloat crept in, and then Microsoft tried to make it seem like a problem with users' computers and then Steve Jobs pulled out an iPad and showed everyone what a low-powered (and hence lightweight) piece hardware can do with a lightweight OS. Even MacOS X was optimised enough to allow for hardware as lightweight as the MacBook Air to work beautifully. Definitely an embarrassing moment for team Redmond back then...
@@user-yg4kj2mf1p interesting, thanks for the response. Very fascinating to see how technology has evolved with its various failed and successful innovative ideas and seeing what "sticks" with the general public
I liked the redesigned start menu.
the windows 10 you installing is it 32-bit?
But can it blend?
I know this video is a couple of years old now but did you ever try a more minimal Desktop Environment over Ubuntu's Unity or GNOME?
I would be interested to see if something like Arch running XFCE works nicely on this!
I wonder if any of the hardware is upgradeable, having a tablet running windows ten smoothly could be really fun
But can it run crysis?
Not as it is, but the WiFi card is a Mini PCIe card so it may be possible to remove that and hook up an external GPU adapter; if it is THEN it COULD haha
No it can't. Stop.
Fucking.
Asking.
Zestypanda but can it run crysis??
But can it run Magnisis? (Lozbotw players will understand)
I posted that, scrolled down, and here you are...
I recommend you to keep that on Windows 7
Weird Gentlemen actually 8 runs better. Notice Aero is working on 8 whereas it doesn't on 7.
No this is a well known problem. Aero on Windows 8 is actually e.m.u.l.a.t.e.d. so the animations are smooth and fooling the user but in the long run when running complex software (like even a recent browser) it will be far slower than Windows 7. Windows 7 is using a fully accelerated 2D UI with the old GDI where as this is gone in 8 and 10, they will run software rendering 3D UI.
Pque Christopher you are correct. Your point taken. 7 will run better with older hardware because of the 2D accelerated UI
it's not emulates always. It's only emulated if the hardware doesn't support it. That's because with Windows 8 onwards, Aero is a required feature. The OS and the modern apps will not function without DWM (which powers AERO).
Of course it will emulate only on unsupported hardware by the 3D APIs. What would be the point to emulate Aero on the latest AMD or Nvidia GPU ?
But at the end, indeed, Windows 7 is the last non-legacy OS from Microsoft that can run somewhat good on very old hardware.
Pque Christopher yeah
I love the win8 menú
it was very neat
Well, I did get the Windows 8 Technical Preview running on a Sony Vaio VGN UX-380N.
mom, please return mr. weaboo's tablet.
thanks
love, arthur
Should've gotten this instead of my Surface Pro 4. Seriously though, in windows Vista and 7 it looked like pen input was running smooth as silk, if it could handle the same with PDF software it'd actually be viable to use.
I might look into one for shits and giggles.
i think ive watched this video about 20 times from 2019 to 2021? its too interesting :))))
6:34 How you get the start screen power button on a tablet. It's only for devices with no Touch screen
ubuntu lagged because QT is heavy and it's component layers require modern hardware tho.
Any people still think Apple invented the tablet....
Those people are probably the same that think Apple invented smartphone or touchscreen
Everyone KNOWS star trek invented the tablet lol
That's ridiculous, everyone knows they invented apples.
@@DarkKnightBatman420 lol
They invented its modern form.
Nice vid. **Update** tried Xubuntu 12 on mine and it ran 100% perfect, no lag, no video issues, really fast (caught my attention while watching your video running Ubuntu). I didn't try Ubuntu because I don't exactly like it. Anyway tried with great success: Windows XP Tablet Edition, Windows 7 (Pro, Ultimate and Lite) and Xubuntu 12.
Im currently bidding on one. I already have replacement parts on the way in case I win
Who heard BonziBuddy too? xD 02:26 windows 95 key leak
12095-0004226-12233.
got a problem? sosumi, microsoft.
Did you try the 32 bit version of Windows 10?
Programming101 He had to
You can basically run any software on any hardware with enough workarounds and hard work...but your results will DEFINITELY vary!
from what I can tell the surface, galaxy book, and a couple of other noteable windows tablets are much like this one in that it is low powered, portable all in one, and has built in stylus support and has a keyboard attachment.
Doe...
.. does it run Crysis?
Med Otaku yes
With ultra.... shit it can run crysis 3
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Yes, at 1 fpd (frames per decades)
Lubuntu would've probably been a better choice than ubuntu
And Xubuntu
yeah. persoanlly i cant stand ubuntu!
ubuntu is also a malware operating system.
Why do all these misconceptions of Ubuntu exist? Ubuntu is perfectly safe.
@@asrr62 how
Nope, compiling your own linux from source is best
How do you install windows 10 on non pae cpu? I tryed to install Win10 and Ubuntu on my old HP laptop with Pentium M CPU and all what i get is a blue screen.
I've gotten Win10 installer to run on some old PCs by burning to DVD and using a USB DVD drive. The Win10 USB boot media seems to rely on a specific combination of UEFI support, or running in legacy mode from a bios that is at least aware of UEFI.