I'm only going to say it once: Carver was my personal best Villain from any installment of The Walking Dead aside from The Governor. I strongly believe this guy should've been alive until Episode Five, because he would have triumphantly been a huge deal of Clementine's Evolution in S2. Imagine that Carver is the Villain that Clementine must take down in order to mature beyond an apprehensive level than any other child around her age before she takes care of AJ...on her own. I really wish someone at TTG caught a glimpse of this idea and ran with it to the fullest potential. That, and his motif is AMAZING. Constantly come back to him on this track alone
William Carver was the only villian in this series that was actually intimidating and threatening unlike all of the other villians. He was the only villian the cast was afraid of and the only villian they took seriously out of fear of what he might do. Sad he died as quickly as he did.
The Stranger was also a bit scary but for far different reasons. Not as much as Carver, but him targetting a child to kidnap specifically let off alarm bells in my head. Initially I thought he was some sort of pedophile, not a father with his sanity slipping.
Unfortunate that we didn't get more screen time for Carver. But in what we got, he left an impact. His fall was one of the most satisfying things this series has to offer and he did lot with what little time he had. Besides, he impacts the whole season and drove the story forward. Even after his death I couldn't stop thinking about all that he said. "Lambs to the slaughter. No shepherd to guide you. Let the sheep outta the pen, see how long that lasts.". The group leaves How's 11 strong at most, and within just a few days, only 1-2 remain. And Clem never forgets about Carver either, she can mention him in Seasons 3 and 4. Not to mention AJ and his similarities to Carver. It's never confirmed who his father is, and you can't tell by looking at him because he has the same skin and hair as Rebecca. But there are _a lot_ of parallels between things said by/to/about Carver and things said by/to/about AJ. There's so many it feels deliberate. And it makes more sense from a storytelling standpoint for AJ to be Carver's son. I didn't go into details on the parallels because there's already and amazing video pointing them all out called "AJ and Carver -- Just like his father" or something like that. But yeah, Carver was the best villain in the series.
The way Carver is presented in this game is the most threatening thing in the whole Walking dead. From the very first episode of S2, he is subtly hinted on as some "big bad." Rebecca is reluctant about saving Clem as she might be working with him. Despite how little he was talked about, The second he appears in the window, the player immediately thinks "Is this the Carver guy they were talking about?" And in the end of the episode, everything comes full circle.
Carver is my favourite villian in the TWD game you know what would've made season 2 very very dark if it gave you the option to side with carver that would be unreal clementine turning evil
I wished we had that option. I'd explore the heck out of that timeline. Plus, I don't think it's out of character for her. Clem can be pretty ruthless and cruel if you let her (which I did, don't need guys getting any funny ideas around me). And in that scene at her office, there was never any (Lie) before her dialogue options, implying that she might be sincere in her words to him. Plus, she admits she liked the warehouse, as it had everything they required. So, yes. Sorry Kenny. But I need to think of the bigger picture. Communities are stronger than small groups. Not all last, it's true, but you need to try, especially if you have any hope of rebuilding the world.
Killing carver off so soon was a big mistake they could have done more with him and we never learned about his back story and why he became the way he was which was a shame
We weren't meant to I suppose. Just assume what happened. Like how Jane can speculate how he got that way. He probably started off as a nice guy that just lost too much. "bad things happen to everyone and it's hard to keep being yourself after they do." -Lee
@@alexcole9325I do think that's what happened. In spite of his violence, beneath it, you could see he tried to hold it together. Be reasonable, in his own way. But the bigger picture overwhelmed him. Ergo, I think before, he was decent.
@@JabamiLain More than likely, yes. I liked him, he was complex, violent, and undoubtedly crazed. But he got stuff done, he was right in some regards, and his words pretty much haunt the rest of the series. Carver was an awesome villain!
@@alexcole9325indeed. Part of how I played my story was meant to represent some of Carver's behavior passing on to Clem, with her struggling to balance it. It seemed the most realistic way to portray her PTSD (and I guess I kinda wanted some of Carver's strength, but without all the craziness). You know, a part of me wished a character like him existed in "Kingdom Hearts". I was recently led to believe the character named Aqua might be too weak for the role she's supposed to carry.
@@BlueBedouin And she's most likely neurodivergent People who hate her are weirdos I could say the same for the other kid characters who get alot hate
Too bad he only appeared in two episodes (not counting the finale of season two and the fourth episode of season three as he only appeared as a corpse if you stayed with Jane).
The ending would've been scarier if after player decided to protect Alvin, Carver would've shot him anyway and held Clem at gunpoint. He really would've been a Badass Telltale Negan but unfortunately he's more of Governor.
If you guys like Carver's dialogue and line delivery, check out the Tarantino movie Reservoir Dogs. His VA gets some stone cold cool lines. Same with Kill Bill 2, maybe it's that Michael Madsen can make anything sound cool. That's probably it.
@@Scarlet_Officer In episode 5 if you go back to How's with Jane. You can see his corpse completely unmoved, meaning he was beaten so bad that he didn't even turn.
@@Scarlet_Officer No prob. His corpse also reappears in a season 3 Jane flashback where she uses him as an example by telling Clem "This is the kind of sh!t Kenny was capable of." And if you watched his death in season 2 she adds "Don't know how you were able to watch that."
Carver is the best villain of TWD Game, he deserved to be in three episodes at least
I agree. Michael Madsen did a stupendous job at playing him.
He brutal and strong, too many characters would die if he did😊
I wish there was a prequel about him.
I'm only going to say it once:
Carver was my personal best Villain from any installment of The Walking Dead aside from The Governor. I strongly believe this guy should've been alive until Episode Five, because he would have triumphantly been a huge deal of Clementine's Evolution in S2. Imagine that Carver is the Villain that Clementine must take down in order to mature beyond an apprehensive level than any other child around her age before she takes care of AJ...on her own. I really wish someone at TTG caught a glimpse of this idea and ran with it to the fullest potential.
That, and his motif is AMAZING. Constantly come back to him on this track alone
Omg shut up
You guys are morons
Would’ve been much better if she actually got to kill Carver
Tho I liked the way how Kenny scratched his face up a bit
William Carver was the only villian in this series that was actually intimidating and threatening unlike all of the other villians. He was the only villian the cast was afraid of and the only villian they took seriously out of fear of what he might do. Sad he died as quickly as he did.
The Stranger was also a bit scary but for far different reasons. Not as much as Carver, but him targetting a child to kidnap specifically let off alarm bells in my head. Initially I thought he was some sort of pedophile, not a father with his sanity slipping.
Unfortunate that we didn't get more screen time for Carver. But in what we got, he left an impact. His fall was one of the most satisfying things this series has to offer and he did lot with what little time he had. Besides, he impacts the whole season and drove the story forward. Even after his death I couldn't stop thinking about all that he said. "Lambs to the slaughter. No shepherd to guide you. Let the sheep outta the pen, see how long that lasts.". The group leaves How's 11 strong at most, and within just a few days, only 1-2 remain. And Clem never forgets about Carver either, she can mention him in Seasons 3 and 4. Not to mention AJ and his similarities to Carver. It's never confirmed who his father is, and you can't tell by looking at him because he has the same skin and hair as Rebecca. But there are _a lot_ of parallels between things said by/to/about Carver and things said by/to/about AJ. There's so many it feels deliberate. And it makes more sense from a storytelling standpoint for AJ to be Carver's son. I didn't go into details on the parallels because there's already and amazing video pointing them all out called "AJ and Carver -- Just like his father" or something like that. But yeah, Carver was the best villain in the series.
The way Carver is presented in this game is the most threatening thing in the whole Walking dead. From the very first episode of S2, he is subtly hinted on as some "big bad." Rebecca is reluctant about saving Clem as she might be working with him. Despite how little he was talked about, The second he appears in the window, the player immediately thinks "Is this the Carver guy they were talking about?" And in the end of the episode, everything comes full circle.
“You don’t wanna test me, I pass every time” such a hard fucking line to this day
(35:39) Clementine(You) deserve it...
An antagonist rich in personality, Carver was very well constructed.
Agreed.
Carver is my favourite villian in the TWD game you know what would've made season 2 very very dark if it gave you the option to side with carver that would be unreal clementine turning evil
I wished we had that option. I'd explore the heck out of that timeline.
Plus, I don't think it's out of character for her. Clem can be pretty ruthless and cruel if you let her (which I did, don't need guys getting any funny ideas around me). And in that scene at her office, there was never any (Lie) before her dialogue options, implying that she might be sincere in her words to him. Plus, she admits she liked the warehouse, as it had everything they required.
So, yes. Sorry Kenny. But I need to think of the bigger picture. Communities are stronger than small groups. Not all last, it's true, but you need to try, especially if you have any hope of rebuilding the world.
The Negan of Telltales The walking dead.
Killing carver off so soon was a big mistake they could have done more with him and we never learned about his back story and why he became the way he was which was a shame
It was the best kill in the season
We weren't meant to I suppose. Just assume what happened. Like how Jane can speculate how he got that way. He probably started off as a nice guy that just lost too much. "bad things happen to everyone and it's hard to keep being yourself after they do." -Lee
@@alexcole9325I do think that's what happened. In spite of his violence, beneath it, you could see he tried to hold it together. Be reasonable, in his own way. But the bigger picture overwhelmed him. Ergo, I think before, he was decent.
@@JabamiLain More than likely, yes. I liked him, he was complex, violent, and undoubtedly crazed. But he got stuff done, he was right in some regards, and his words pretty much haunt the rest of the series. Carver was an awesome villain!
@@alexcole9325indeed. Part of how I played my story was meant to represent some of Carver's behavior passing on to Clem, with her struggling to balance it. It seemed the most realistic way to portray her PTSD (and I guess I kinda wanted some of Carver's strength, but without all the craziness).
You know, a part of me wished a character like him existed in "Kingdom Hearts". I was recently led to believe the character named Aqua might be too weak for the role she's supposed to carry.
25:02 A child when they see they’re favourite sweets in the shop
"Kenny isn't Carver"
Funny, I recall that earlier in s2's development, Kenny was supposed to have Carver's role
I'm glad that wasn't the case. Though I did wish we could have had that confrontation between him and Luke from cut content.
(1:42:53-1:43:32) Kenneth deserve it...
No the fuck he didn’t
Growing up is realising this guy was right
Bruh I swear I hated Sarah so much in this season he coddled her to much
I feel bad for her.
@@VILLAINOFYOURDREAMSshe's a big baby but she's a sweetheart, honestly people who hate her are usually annoying douchebags themselves
@@BlueBedouin
And she's most likely neurodivergent
People who hate her are weirdos
I could say the same for the other kid characters who get alot hate
same here
Please do all nick scenes. This is perfect!!
Too bad he only appeared in two episodes (not counting the finale of season two and the fourth episode of season three as he only appeared as a corpse if you stayed with Jane).
The ending would've been scarier if after player decided to protect Alvin, Carver would've shot him anyway and held Clem at gunpoint. He really would've been a Badass Telltale Negan but unfortunately he's more of Governor.
If you guys like Carver's dialogue and line delivery, check out the Tarantino movie Reservoir Dogs. His VA gets some stone cold cool lines. Same with Kill Bill 2, maybe it's that Michael Madsen can make anything sound cool. That's probably it.
Carver may have been a hard man but he was absolutely correct. Coddling weak people gets people killed and can bring down an entire group.
Last time I checked, destroying someone’s eye, then giving them brain damage makes them weaker.
Especially if they get pushed off of a building.
1:43:14 my dad when I move the flashlight 0.00001 inches
At least carver went out like a boss. Compared to Troy.
Yeah, his is one of the most brutal deaths in TWD franchise. He doesn't even turn into a walker if you go back with Jane and look.
@@alexcole9325 Which episode did they return?
@@Scarlet_Officer In episode 5 if you go back to How's with Jane. You can see his corpse completely unmoved, meaning he was beaten so bad that he didn't even turn.
@@alexcole9325 okay cuz I was trying to find the episode with that scene, thank you.
@@Scarlet_Officer No prob. His corpse also reappears in a season 3 Jane flashback where she uses him as an example by telling Clem "This is the kind of sh!t Kenny was capable of." And if you watched his death in season 2 she adds "Don't know how you were able to watch that."
Why does the thumbnail look like Kevin Samuels getting pressed. 😂😂😂
I wish Lee survived going into Season 2
I literally had a heart attack when alvin died.
Carver piss me off😂
He was a strong antagonist
1:18:55 My favorite moment.
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Carver is terrible human being anyway killing people is never the answer
I wish he was less generic