Great follow up, Gloria, thank you so much! I live in NY and cigs cost $13 a pack, about $130 a carton. This machine will pay for itself in just a few weeks. I will try and post my own review in a few weeks once I really get the hang of it. I’m still figuring out tobacco and tube combinations, there’s so many!
Steve, ask them at the cigarette shop. That’s the only way I knew what to buy. Thank you for the compliment on my follow up. I use to drive a tour bus in NYC. I never purchased cigarettes there way to expensive.
I've had my machine for 4 years, and it's still going strong. Don't even know what a pack of cigarettes costs anymore, but my mind is blown seeing what others are paying for a carton. 1 pound of tobacco will make 2 cartons plus 2-4 packs. Cost of tobacco is $14. Tubes (250 a pack) is $4, so for $22, I can make 22-24 packs with tubes left over. Another thing I noticed is my smokers cough went away. Probably because loose tobacco is a lot cleaner than what those brand cigarettes have in them.
I've been hand cranking a topomatic over 10 years now & after seeing this I'll be getting one for my mom. I figure $200 for the machine & 3 boxes of tubes $15 & 1 16oz bag of American Club Pipe tobacco at $15. So $30-$40 for 3 cartons of cigs. $80 a carton of Marlboro Reds 100's. So 3 cartons of Marlboro's in 3 weeks would cover the cost of this & I won't be having to handcrank out cigs anymore. in 4 months that machine has made 782 packs or 78 cartons. Yeah Finally something I actually feel good in investing in. Thanks for sharing this.
The best investment I have ever made! I had a hand crank machine and it was the worst, I also purchased cheap electric ones before purchasing this machine and the lights of the cigarettes would fall off. Please let me know how you like it. I believe if you buy it from Amazon you can return it if you are not satisfied. Cigarettes are way to much money. Good luck and let me know what you think.
I've noticed that yours is the only type that doesn't Need the user to Pack the tobacco & still uses a lever @@gloriouscrafts . Gonna look into amazons 4 year warranty. Thanks for responding. ps Depending on the state you're in the taxes on Cigarette Tobacco is way more than Pipe tobacco. In NC it's a $10 difference.
The cigarette shop I go to only sells pipe tobacco. I live in Pa and everything is expensive. I am happy that I don’t have to touch the tobacco. I got the 4 year warranty just in case.
Yeah not having to pick out the stems is the Biggest advantage of Cigarette tobacco vs Pipe@@gloriouscrafts. Oh yeah hope y'all are staying Dry & Safe from the storm that just left here.
Thanks for the demonstration! That is really fast! It takes me about 8 hours to roll a carton of cigarettes with the tops hand roller machine I have now and I just don't have the time to put 1 day every other week into rolling cigarettes.
It is super fast, I roll the entire large bag of tobacco in about 3 hours. I then refrigerate them. Its a great machine. Just difficult to return in Pa because it was used for tobacco. I ordered another one because it does a great job! If you get one please let me know what you think.
I just got my PM3 used for only 125.00! Upgraded from the PM2 I used for a year. I was scared but I watched your vid and while watching I used my PM3 for the first time! I didnt get any hiccups my first try lol. Thank you :)
I've had this machine for about 2 years... I have saved thousands... This is a good machine... I've looked at others... For the money I don't see a better option...
I invested in this machine and like it a lot. I would make a recommendation to add a small guiding LED light by the tube insertion point which is lower on the device. Most people will place this in or on a tray , mine is higher than most at 2-3" which creates some depth and shadow but still .. especially if I'm using it in dim lighting , the brightness of the LED screen on top blinds me to the tube insertion point. I'd recommend lowering the brightness of the top screen and adding a small light to illuminate where you put the tube especially because it has to be on there precisely to work. I know you're not the manufacturer but if you sell them maybe you can feed this back to them
Wow the tubes here are under 2 bucks a box and I buy my tobacco from pipes and cigars online for $9.99 a pound. I had the hand crank one also had the powermatic 4 which was a pain to use. I love the powermatic 3. I've rolled 20,000 so far
Tobacco general .com is best at taking care of you with the lowest price (all about the same price) I get two pounds, five boxes of tubes delivered..$50, lasts me all month plus
@@gloriouscrafts I just got a huge deal. I bought (15) 1 pound bags of tobacco (each bags makes 2 cartons) and 30 cartons of filters for $240 after shipping. That comes out to .80cents per pack or $8 per carton. Around here, $240 is around the price of 2 cartons in the store lol
Hello, what brand of tobacco do you use and do you always use this brand? Also, do you always keep the density level on the top larger bar? The reason I ask is because the machine I bought only made 150 cigs before it stopped working and I had to send it in to be repaired and your machine seems to work perfect every time.
I use Criss Cross pipe tabacco, it’s the only kind they have at the cigarette shop around the corner from my house. I got this machine from Amazon and I highly recommend you get the warranty. I am going to be doing another update on this machine as soon as I get my new one. This one only lasted 8 months. So keep an eye out for my next update because I will explain what happened. I hope this helps.
I just figured I had my response since I've had this machine for a while. Had a different machine before that you had to put the tobacco in each time.. I have found that different tubes in different tobacco react different to the stuffer.. also when the tobacco gets dry you have to adjust the density... I personally use the 0hm brand tobacco... And I won't tell you the tubes I use because they're too hard to find......lol... When I was figuring this out I pretty much went and seen what they sold the most of...
I just got mine & it doesn't like loading 100's fully. Jams a lot also. Using Gambler which is already finely cut & it won't run unless I chop the tobacco more! Then i use a sifter to get all the dust out. Going to grab a Hawk HK-3. That seems to do 100's better.
@@gloriouscrafts ok was wondering because I have a cheap 15 dollar machine that does the same thing it grinds the tobacco into a powder and is a pain so I will give this machine some serious thought
@pagantrucker I just recently tried using a grinder for the tobacco and it became to fine and I honestly couldn’t even get a drag of a cigarette. So I sent the grinder back. I did realize that if I dry out the tobacco a bit it works better. Let me know if you happen to get one. It saves me alot of time and is quite easy to use. It is costly and hard to return through the mail where I live.
Oh my, a little button! Our machine is a damn mess. Trying to pick between this & a vape pen with nicotine...I'm just sure whichever I pick I'll change my mind $200 later! Now for the real fun, craft videos 😊
I noticed you took a handful of tobacco straight out of the bag and put it into the hopper. How do you deal with the small sticks/stems that are in the bags? Don't they cause problems?
I sometimes find them and break them up. Unfortunately there are times when I have them in my cigarettes while I’m smoking them. Do you sift through your tobacco before you use it? Maybe I should try that.
Can you use tobacco right out of a new package or do you need to dry it out some first? Also, would you say the tobacco you use is long-cut or short-cut? I generally use Good Stuff and Cherokee brands. I'd consider them medium cut I suppose but leaning more toward a longer cut. I'm already tired of hand-cranking (4 mos.) my cigarettes and want to buy one of these. Good video and thanks for the demonstration.
I use the tobacco right out of the bag, I have never dried it out. I use pipe tobacco that’s all they sell at the store around the corner from my house. I honestly am not a fan of the hand crank, I don’t like how they turn out. If you do get one of these please watch the video about returning it with a warranty because I couldn’t return it through the mail because it contained tobacco. I live in Pa your state might have different laws. Thank you so much for the compliment and thank you for watching my video. Have a great day.
I have done another video about how it’s not rolling as tight and even with a 4 year warranty I can’t return it through the mail. This machine is spectacular when it was working.
I have a pm2, and just received pm3 today. I’ve had my pm2 for 3 years with no problems. My question is, is there a break-in period for the pm3? Your machine made 26 before mine made 10. It seems to run at less than half the speed yours is in the video… is it just a slow unit? And now, after every couple of cigarettes, it says hopper. I clean out the hopper, put back the tobacco that was there, run it until hopper clears of, and then it will say hopper again. At least 3 times in a row. Had this less than an hour, and already wanting to send it back
There was no break-in period with my machine. It worked get, till it didn’t. I bought another one and it is the worst! Tabacco falls out of the cigarettes no matter what size I try to make. Maybe just horrible craftsmanship. My suggestion is to send it back. They should do better making these products especially since it’s hard to return them. Let me know how it goes. Sorry for your experience.
My guess is that you are using long cut tobacco and it is having a hard time feeding into the bottom. I use OHM Silver tobacco and have to shred it up a bit with a small blender to get it to feed without problems. I chop it up to the same consistency as the tobacco in store bought cigs.
I am. I called the customer service line to ask about the issue. He told me to use a spice blender… after looking at a few on Amazon, most spice blender reviews mentioned buy them for tobacco and the PM3
@@gloriouscrafts You telling me I have two of them the first one quit and bought another one had it two years and it quit now I have a crank roller rolls about ten smokes don't want to work and it is a top roller post to be the best one
I am actually on my 2nd one and it hasn’t worked as well as my original one. It’s so frustrating and returning them is a huge ordeal, the only upside is that it’s cheaper to roll them but those prices are going up.
Great follow up, Gloria, thank you so much! I live in NY and cigs cost $13 a pack, about $130 a carton. This machine will pay for itself in just a few weeks. I will try and post my own review in a few weeks once I really get the hang of it. I’m still figuring out tobacco and tube combinations, there’s so many!
Steve, ask them at the cigarette shop. That’s the only way I knew what to buy. Thank you for the compliment on my follow up. I use to drive a tour bus in NYC. I never purchased cigarettes there way to expensive.
Cigarettes here are atleast $10. a pack so I now roll them. For 2 large bags of tobacco and 6 boxes of filters its around $60. So that works for us. 😃
@@gloriouscrafts once get it figured out the rolling machine it's a piece of cake but not when it quits on you
Tube cut is the best one for roll your own smokes that is what I use
I've had my machine for 4 years, and it's still going strong. Don't even know what a pack of cigarettes costs anymore, but my mind is blown seeing what others are paying for a carton. 1 pound of tobacco will make 2 cartons plus 2-4 packs. Cost of tobacco is $14. Tubes (250 a pack) is $4, so for $22, I can make 22-24 packs with tubes left over. Another thing I noticed is my smokers cough went away. Probably because loose tobacco is a lot cleaner than what those brand cigarettes have in them.
That is fantastic your machine is still working.
Cigarettes here are around $20 a pack. Cartons cost close to $100. I haven't rolled cigarettes in years
Tobacco products are just too high priced.
That’s why I roll cigarettes. I can’t afford the ones from the store.
I've been hand cranking a topomatic over 10 years now & after seeing this I'll be getting one for my mom. I figure $200 for the machine & 3 boxes of tubes $15 & 1 16oz bag of American Club Pipe tobacco at $15. So $30-$40 for 3 cartons of cigs. $80 a carton of Marlboro Reds 100's. So 3 cartons of Marlboro's in 3 weeks would cover the cost of this & I won't be having to handcrank out cigs anymore.
in 4 months that machine has made 782 packs or 78 cartons. Yeah Finally something I actually feel good in investing in.
Thanks for sharing this.
The best investment I have ever made! I had a hand crank machine and it was the worst, I also purchased cheap electric ones before purchasing this machine and the lights of the cigarettes would fall off. Please let me know how you like it. I believe if you buy it from Amazon you can return it if you are not satisfied. Cigarettes are way to much money. Good luck and let me know what you think.
I've noticed that yours is the only type that doesn't Need the user to Pack the tobacco & still uses a lever @@gloriouscrafts . Gonna look into amazons 4 year warranty. Thanks for responding.
ps
Depending on the state you're in the taxes on Cigarette Tobacco is way more than Pipe tobacco. In NC it's a $10 difference.
The cigarette shop I go to only sells pipe tobacco. I live in Pa and everything is expensive. I am happy that I don’t have to touch the tobacco. I got the 4 year warranty just in case.
Yeah not having to pick out the stems is the Biggest advantage of Cigarette tobacco vs Pipe@@gloriouscrafts. Oh yeah hope y'all are staying Dry & Safe from the storm that just left here.
The rain wasn’t too bad here. I hope are all staying safe where you are
Thanks for the demonstration! That is really fast! It takes me about 8 hours to roll a carton of cigarettes with the tops hand roller machine I have now and I just don't have the time to put 1 day every other week into rolling cigarettes.
It is super fast, I roll the entire large bag of tobacco in about 3 hours. I then refrigerate them. Its a great machine. Just difficult to return in Pa because it was used for tobacco. I ordered another one because it does a great job! If you get one please let me know what you think.
I just got my PM3 used for only 125.00! Upgraded from the PM2 I used for a year. I was scared but I watched your vid and while watching I used my PM3 for the first time! I didnt get any hiccups my first try lol. Thank you :)
You are very welcome.
I've had this machine for about 2 years... I have saved thousands... This is a good machine... I've looked at others... For the money I don't see a better option...
Very true, I actually bought another one. Hopefully it continues to work
I invested in this machine and like it a lot. I would make a recommendation to add a small guiding LED light by the tube insertion point which is lower on the device. Most people will place this in or on a tray , mine is higher than most at 2-3" which creates some depth and shadow but still .. especially if I'm using it in dim lighting , the brightness of the LED screen on top blinds me to the tube insertion point. I'd recommend lowering the brightness of the top screen and adding a small light to illuminate where you put the tube especially because it has to be on there precisely to work.
I know you're not the manufacturer but if you sell them maybe you can feed this back to them
I don’t sell these I just did a review on this product. I review products I buy myself.
Wow the tubes here are under 2 bucks a box and I buy my tobacco from pipes and cigars online for $9.99 a pound. I had the hand crank one also had the powermatic 4 which was a pain to use. I love the powermatic 3. I've rolled 20,000 so far
The hand crank ones are the absolute worst. I enjoy the power rollers
Tobacco general .com is best at taking care of you with the lowest price (all about the same price)
I get two pounds, five boxes of tubes delivered..$50, lasts me all month plus
15k butts in 4mo….your a legend
😂, thanks
My counter is currently at 91,394.
That is fantastic! It is a great machine.
Damn! Has mine beat! Mine is over 40,000. That small black bar inside the hopper broke but it still makes cigs
As long as it still makes cigarettes 🚬!
@@gloriouscrafts
I just got a huge deal. I bought (15) 1 pound bags of tobacco (each bags makes 2 cartons) and 30 cartons of filters for $240 after shipping. That comes out to .80cents per pack or $8 per carton.
Around here, $240 is around the price of 2 cartons in the store lol
@@danglingbooger3865 that’s fantastic, good for you
Hello, what brand of tobacco do you use and do you always use this brand? Also, do you always keep the density level on the top larger bar? The reason I ask is because the machine I bought only made 150 cigs before it stopped working and I had to send it in to be repaired and your machine seems to work perfect every time.
I use Criss Cross pipe tabacco, it’s the only kind they have at the cigarette shop around the corner from my house. I got this machine from Amazon and I highly recommend you get the warranty. I am going to be doing another update on this machine as soon as I get my new one. This one only lasted 8 months. So keep an eye out for my next update because I will explain what happened. I hope this helps.
@@gloriouscrafts mine broke too after almost a year
Were you able to return it?
I just figured I had my response since I've had this machine for a while. Had a different machine before that you had to put the tobacco in each time.. I have found that different tubes in different tobacco react different to the stuffer.. also when the tobacco gets dry you have to adjust the density... I personally use the 0hm brand tobacco... And I won't tell you the tubes I use because they're too hard to find......lol... When I was figuring this out I pretty much went and seen what they sold the most of...
I just got mine & it doesn't like loading 100's fully. Jams a lot also.
Using Gambler which is already finely cut & it won't run unless I chop the tobacco more!
Then i use a sifter to get all the dust out. Going to grab a Hawk HK-3. That seems to do 100's better.
That stinks. Let me know how you like the other machine
Does this machine pack the tubes evenly from the filter to the tip or does it leave a loose area at the filter like a hand held
No it packs the cigarettes evenly. It seems like after a while that starts to become the problem. That’s why I wanted to return it.
@@gloriouscrafts ok was wondering because I have a cheap 15 dollar machine that does the same thing it grinds the tobacco into a powder and is a pain so I will give this machine some serious thought
@pagantrucker I just recently tried using a grinder for the tobacco and it became to fine and I honestly couldn’t even get a drag of a cigarette. So I sent the grinder back. I did realize that if I dry out the tobacco a bit it works better. Let me know if you happen to get one. It saves me alot of time and is quite easy to use. It is costly and hard to return through the mail where I live.
Oh my, a little button! Our machine is a damn mess. Trying to pick between this & a vape pen with nicotine...I'm just sure whichever I pick I'll change my mind $200 later! Now for the real fun, craft videos 😊
I hope you enjoy them. It’s so relaxing.
wonderful video, thank you!
Thank you so much
I noticed you took a handful of tobacco straight out of the bag and put it into the hopper. How do you deal with the small sticks/stems that are in the bags? Don't they cause problems?
I sometimes find them and break them up. Unfortunately there are times when I have them in my cigarettes while I’m smoking them. Do you sift through your tobacco before you use it? Maybe I should try that.
Can you use tobacco right out of a new package or do you need to dry it out some first? Also, would you say the tobacco you use is long-cut or short-cut? I generally use Good Stuff and Cherokee brands. I'd consider them medium cut I suppose but leaning more toward a longer cut. I'm already tired of hand-cranking (4 mos.) my cigarettes and want to buy one of these. Good video and thanks for the demonstration.
I use the tobacco right out of the bag, I have never dried it out. I use pipe tobacco that’s all they sell at the store around the corner from my house. I honestly am not a fan of the hand crank, I don’t like how they turn out. If you do get one of these please watch the video about returning it with a warranty because I couldn’t return it through the mail because it contained tobacco. I live in Pa your state might have different laws. Thank you so much for the compliment and thank you for watching my video. Have a great day.
@Glorious Crafts how were you told you couldn't return it? I need to send mine back and I live in PA too. Did you clean all the tobacco out first?
does the cherries fall off with this machine, compared to the cool knight machine?
I am not sure what you mean by do the cherries fall off. I have never used the cool knight machine.
I did a video on the pm 3 +. How many rolls do you think you will get out of it? Love this machine.
I have done another video about how it’s not rolling as tight and even with a 4 year warranty I can’t return it through the mail. This machine is spectacular when it was working.
I have a pm2, and just received pm3 today. I’ve had my pm2 for 3 years with no problems. My question is, is there a break-in period for the pm3? Your machine made 26 before mine made 10. It seems to run at less than half the speed yours is in the video… is it just a slow unit?
And now, after every couple of cigarettes, it says hopper. I clean out the hopper, put back the tobacco that was there, run it until hopper clears of, and then it will say hopper again. At least 3 times in a row. Had this less than an hour, and already wanting to send it back
There was no break-in period with my machine. It worked get, till it didn’t. I bought another one and it is the worst! Tabacco falls out of the cigarettes no matter what size I try to make. Maybe just horrible craftsmanship. My suggestion is to send it back. They should do better making these products especially since it’s hard to return them. Let me know how it goes. Sorry for your experience.
My guess is that you are using long cut tobacco and it is having a hard time feeding into the bottom. I use OHM Silver tobacco and have to shred it up a bit with a small blender to get it to feed without problems. I chop it up to the same consistency as the tobacco in store bought cigs.
@CottonFarmer667 that is a great idea. I will definitely try that, thank you
I am. I called the customer service line to ask about the issue. He told me to use a spice blender… after looking at a few on Amazon, most spice blender reviews mentioned buy them for tobacco and the PM3
Thank you so much, I am going to look into purchasing a spice blender. I will let you know how it works out. Again thank you
how did you get the 4 year warranty
Amazon
Ok to do 100s?
Absolutely, if they are not tight enough change the setting and the machine will fill them
I love to save money too
Too much money for a pack of cigarettes.
What's the price tag in this?
I got mine from Amazon for about $180-190
That's 16 oz aka 1 pound
3 packs a day per 2 people
This machine will save you so much money!
Another way to save money by OHM pipe tobacco
Thank you for the tip 😊
The power roller 2 is not worth 100dollars only last two years and quit
I agree. That was very disappointing
@@gloriouscrafts You telling me I have two of them the first one quit and bought another one had it two years and it quit now I have a crank roller rolls about ten smokes don't want to work and it is a top roller post to be the best one
I am actually on my 2nd one and it hasn’t worked as well as my original one. It’s so frustrating and returning them is a huge ordeal, the only upside is that it’s cheaper to roll them but those prices are going up.