“Alexander-Arnold is not the answer to England’s midfield problems” | Three Up Front in Germany 🇩🇪
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Football fever is sweeping across Germany as Euro 2024 gets into full swing. England kicked off their campaign with a 1-0 win over Serbia, thanks to a Jude Bellingham header. It’s a familiar story: a bright start, lost control, and a nervy finish. Nonetheless, Southgate has led the boys to a win. However, with key figures like Foden struggling to impose themselves on the game, has it left us with more questions than answers?
The Tartan Army descended on Germany in their thousands, full of expectation ahead of their group opener against the host nation. But Scotland’s 5-1 thrashing in Munich has threatened to dampen their excitement and an early exit. What went so wrong for Steve Clarke’s men?
Simon, Graeme, and Troy discuss all this and more from Germany in the latest episode of Three Up Front.
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00:00 Start
00:21 What’s the guys thoughts on Germany?
02:33 England vs Serbia
08:12 Foden’s levels for England
11:44 England’s depth
15:20 Are we being too critical?
18:06 Scotland vs Germany
21:43 Did Scotland freeze?
24:22 Who are the guys favourites for the Euros?
Nice to see that Simon's granny has allowed the boys use her good room for the pod.
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Simon needs to STOP consistently digging out Graeme Souness every 3 minutes because its becoming uncomfortable to watch now. Yes Graeme gives it him back and obviously I'm well aware of that. But I honestly think if Simon Jordan didn't feel the constant need to show him up in front of whoever else they are both in a room with, then Grae wouldn't take the mick out of him.
It's like that mate we've all got who 95% of the time is sound but when your both are around certain people and they keep trying to make you look like an idiot.
He’s a nob
Both are nobs to be fair 😊
@@philc.5100 That’s fair 😁
That's not a good friend at all. If they're putting you down in front of women or other men that just screams insecurity to me. That's what I get from Simon 😑
He’s Fitch from _The Office_
Bellingham is amazing and he drives the team, but after only 7 minutes on clock he’d been upfront right and left , right mid, left mid he was everywhere and blowing, emptied the tank by halftime, you never see him jogging he’s either sprinting or walking to recover when he learns to manage the game better he’s gunna be some player.
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C,mon Denmark ! !.
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Everyone sees it besides the manager and it’s crazy! It’s like we go 1-0 up early and he absolutely bricks it and sits in. Also not realising when we need to change the game and leaving it too late to bring on subs
Agreed and we brought on like-for-like subs when we could brought on players who can keep the ball, possession would have been a better way to to blunt Serbia’s ambitions and/or a counterattack option
@@thumper1747 Yeah we should have been trying to hammer a team like Serbia and leaving the more technical game for Denmark. I do feel like they’ve used Trent as a bit of a scapegoat here but Southgate should never be starting a non midfielder in cm anyway
Expectation is too high considering the cautious nature of the coach. It was like the final against Italy all over again. I’d love to hear a journalist ask Southgate whether he saw any similarities to that game.
Is it that Most footballers are not the brightest bunch , are they being over coached with ridiculously complicated tactics and patterns instead of putting the players in their club positions and telling them to just go out and play.
Southgate waits too long to make changes
England won…
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Troy " Troy Deeney " Deeney sat across from Souness is the equivalent of David Brent sat across from Bill Gates
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Tick box exercise mate. 3 straight white males would be illegal in today’s society (coming from an Asian)
With a cold
Naaa come on, Troy Deeney is decent.
Oof that’s brutal. I like Troy he’s respectful and really quite a good contributor. Joleon is good too. My main gripe with Troy is his nasal voice. My dad was a voiceover artist so nasal voices were always a no. Times have changed.
Top tip: don’t go into major tournaments and still be wondering what your best team and formation is
Especially after 8 years. Laziest manager going.
Also as much as we talk about the rest, Harry Kane slows our play down and does not have the mobility to be a release for a ball up the channels.
At times the wingers were bombing down and Kane was outside of the box.
He is a world class operator but dropping deep all the time without the pace and mobility to get up and down causes our wingers or full backs to slow it down and second guess themselves.
Toney or Watkins are not better strikers but have more mobility and will run the channels if they need to run it and hold it and bring others into play
I have always said, unless you play more direct football and put kane in more 50/50 situations...otherwise he shouldn't play, he doesn't fit the system and you're better off having a packed midfield.
@@retroafro1Kane likes to drop deep. That wouldn’t suit him. Think it’s his strange style that has made sure he’s never won anything.
Bin saying this 5yrs now kane is the Problem he has no pace upfront so is very predictable slows the play dwn an keep coming deeper as his legs goes
Tell it how it is!!👊👍 One of the best Shows in Sports 👏👏🇩🇪🏴
The best thing about the Serbia game was Marc guehi...he looked solid he even looked solid in the air against those big six footer Serbian strikers....so that position looks ok...now we just need Shaw to somehow get fit and that defence will do ok..with that defence England can do something
Totally agree, so what happened to this amazing midfield and front line, nearly every pundit was wrong, needs a huge improvement to win anything!
Agreed and Southgate shouldn’t be shy when deploying other players regardless of their lack of international experience, they’ll be fearless
When England are under pressure rice Gallagher Trent Jude foden non of them want the ball so then we pump it long to Kane terrible
@@user-rm6cj7yj9i I don't care... happy with the win😚
Troy Deeney sounds like his nose is stuffy 24/7
Nose candy - guaranteed. Unbearable. Get Lescott back on
he gets the bad batches from birmingham 😂
All the gear
columbian flu
@@CC1984_ Great spot! Your abilities and intellect are wasted in a UA-cam comment section though. You're clearly destined for great things.
the weaknesses of the English team are so obvious. do pundits who claim england will win think there are no teams that will exploit them? it s delusional to think england will get to the finals.
Bellingham should be playing box-to-box 8 role. He’d be elite at it, just like he is at the 10. And he’d still get in the box coming slightly deeper, as he did for his goal the other night. That would allow Foden to play 10.
I love these armchair experts who make it obvious they know nothing about football. Brilliant🤣🤣
Elite players don't keep disappearing in matches,City,Bayern, Dortmund,and the second half against the Serbs.
Ffs Foden as 10, I can't hear that shit anymore. Remember the Iceland game? Foden as 10, we all know how that turned out. Foden simply dosen't do it for England, he constantly flops. But all you guys keep repeating play Foden as 10.
"Trying the same thing over and over again, expecting different results is just insane!" Albert Einstein
Why do we need to accommodate Foden at 10, I'm sick of hearing it. We have a 10 in Bellingham who is doing a great job there so why do we need to do that. Foden hasn't played well for England and we need to stop this behaviour in England of trying to force our perceived best players in to the team, it just upsets the balance.
@@ForARideand to be fair, Einsteins ball knowledge was insain
I think Foden should be moved to goalkeeper, put Pickford on the left in place of Foden - leads to threats going forward on both the left and right flanks.
This opinion is genuinely better than most people
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Midfield 'problems' good lord. We do not have problems, unless you are looking for actual perfection. Rice, Bellingham, Foden...any team would love to have any one of them. The problem is not the personnel - it is the horseman.
"Alexander-Arnold is not the answer to Southgate’s midfield problems"*
@@AFriskyPigeon there is no answer that involves players. Southgate could have xavi, iniesta and they'd be defending their own box all match.
this studio is outrageous
This is ten times better than Lineker and the other two.
Yeah Linekar these days is there just to collect a cheque. He brings nothing
@@nickcourtney793Souness brings what?
Agreed
@@marcuslouison3998Linekers a virtue-signalling cont
anything is better than that bellend
I love reading all the UA-cam manager comments
I knew Trent would be the scapegoat
Im 8.5 minutes in and the topic is "why doesnt Foden play well for England"
@mdptg1990 please explain why
He was shit though.
He wasn’t very good though was he. Needs to be kept away from danger areas in possession, otherwise will put the defence under pressure.
How dare people criticise trent when he was dreadful. Liverpool fans are as deluded as arsenal fans at this point
I don’t know if anyone has pointed this out but the picture/ photo above right of Simons head (from the viewers point of view) looks like Martin Bormann 😮
In my opinion that game lacked influence from big senior players. The Serb's analysed the issues they faced adapted and imposed their plan on the game. England's players failed in that I believe senior players would have been able to work out the issue and adapted on the pitch and took control. For me the lack of leadership in defence and midfield allowed the Serbs to take control. I think second half the lack of balance in terms of a left footed left back, with Foden and Bellingham all trying to operate in the same way in the same area made the left side redundant. If you look at the heat maps and pass maps for all three players they are literally identical! Second half the defence dropped too deep too quickly leaving a big space between defence and midfield and the front line failed to provide an effective out ball allowing the defence/team to squeeze up to halfway to play and control the game in the Serbian half! Having said that winning the first game is a big thing, can Southgate learn and adapt for Denmark?
Great show
Keep the episodes coming lads (just no short clips please!)
England are rarely ruthless, a reflection of the manager, you can imagine the Germany manager telling his players to destroy Scotland, dont stop. As we've seen in football all the time, 1 goal is rarely enough, even at 3, dont be complacent
12:20 Gomez is actually a very good left back,, If Trippier was out I'd go Gomez all day long and not be that worried to be honest. Id take Gomez at left back over Trent any day of the week
I’d say Gomez and Rice in a double pivot with one joining the attack at any one time would solve a lot of the problems and encourage Rice to join the attack..
I'd just jam Rice, Konsa and Stones as 3 CBs and to hell with it lol. Put 6 in midfield for total domination. pure liabilities we have in the full back roles. walker is too old, TAA isnt defensively sound, trippier too old, shaw unfit, james bla bla
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@@thesampsoninstitutehow exactly is Walker too old? He’s the fastest player in the squad by some distance.
Simon is way out of his depth and keeps resorting to personal insults as his contribution. It's good when he's silent.
I'd like to see you match the courage of your convictions, there's a good chance you might learn something along the way
@@user-zy9yg2eu5t Imatch my convictions with what? But yes there's always a chance I/we can be wrong or learn something so thank you for that.
I start watching forgetting that Troy Deeney is on and then immediately turn it off
Scottland had their game plan, the way Germany started had them shell-shocked, after that it was always going to be difficult to get back into the game
Congratulations Graeme, very well deserved.
❤ love the show
As a chelsea fan I don’t just like cole palmer cause he plays for us I think with his confidence and the calm in his mentality will be a great in the squad should give him a game
No left back aside from an injured Shaw. Why no Leif Davis after the season he’s just had at Ipswich Town. A real threat with assists and goals.
No need for that choreographed intro lads, come on now
It was the defence what was the worry before the tournament started. Now it's the midfield which was meant to be the strongest part of the team.
But early to judge Trent in that role. Nobody came out looking great in that game
True. He gave it away twice in key areas though. If that’s one of the big nations we concede. Although in the second half when he gave it away I liked how rapid he was in getting back to win the ball back.
@@alistairsmith5389why don't you also mention the two great opportunities he created, people here again just concentrating on the negatives. Pathetic!
@@ForARide which two great opportunities?
Trent is simply not a midfielder and at this level you get exposed
@@ForARide negatives as it’s not something a midfielder would do, and there are midfielders on the bench. Not his fault he’s not used to playing there.
Not sure why everybody thinks Foden has to play , the most important thing is to put out on the pitch the best team not the 11 best players. Worth remembering that the only time England have won anything was when Alf Ramsey left Jimmy Greaves out of the team, at the time everyone said Greaves was the best English striker but he wasnt the best player for that England team. If England do well without Foden playing that is fine.
C,mon Denmark ! !.
Leaving Jack Grealish out was massive mistake,the guy don't as to score goals or assists to make the team play better, he is the player that creates space for others player to score or assists, and give u control so other players can move into spaces win u set pieces in dangerous areas and experience don't watch his number he makes the team play alot better
Imagine having Mainoo, Wharton, Gallagher and Bellingham available to play alongside Rice as another DM, a BBM or a DPL, and he puts a RB in there 😂. It is very simple, Rice as the DM, Bellingham as the Box to Box and Foden as the no 10 (you can then rotate depending on the opposition or the scoreline, for example 2 nil up take Bellingham or Foden off and bring on a second DM.
Who are the Mum and Dad on the wall? 👀
The reality here is that it’s either Foden or Saka but not both.
If Foden can’t perform on the left then it’s bench time
Great to have Troy back on the show, brings a good balance
Yeah, every panel needs an muppet.
He brings nothing to the table
Foden's best position is through the middle but if he isnt going to displace Bellingham which it wouldn't appear he will then he shouldn't play at all as there are other players who can do a better job in the wide positions. Pick the best players for the positions not crowbar a player in because you dont want to leave him out. One of Bellingham or Foden, not both as it doesn't work.
Trippier at left back is a square peg in a round hole as it is Troy!
Congratulations Graeme CBE
Rice is Englands midfield problem
Why the pictures of David Attenborough and Miriam Margolyes?
Cole palmer and Anthony Gordon - need to be given a run !
palmer plays on the wing for chelsea sometimes he is way more accustomed to it than foden and can finish he plays for a shit team and still scored loads of goals he should come off the bench most games in my opinion. even if he doesn't start he can impact games big time and i am arsenal fan btw
Agreed, he would love the role, I don’t think Foden did
For sure, Palmer has literally carried Chelsea since his transfer. He might look skinny buts he's stronk.
Palmer needs to be given a run !
Even Souness who is so bias regarding Liverpool knows TAA is not a midfielder. Why has Pelican beak decided to change the midfield which worked at a major tournament. Then Southgate wonders why he is unpopular. Why didn't Klopp play TAA in midfield? He's a wing back!!!!!!!!!!!
The way Simon Jordon keeps digging Souness is over the top. Funny at first but getting tedious now, Plus if Jordon was ever brave enough to meet Souness on a football pitch , Souness would break him in two.
England will not progress with this style of play. Southgate needs to play the lads in their proper position, they need to speed up their play, and cross the damn ball into the penalty box. England wingers do not play like traditional wingers. Run at the defense and hug the sideline and get the ball into the penalty area. Foden, Saka and Bellingham need to take more on and drive pass them. Get the wingbacks behind the defense.
Why focus on individuals? What does the team need? It needs penetration on the left wing. It needs a ball winner in the middle alongside Rice to let him get forward. It needs a left back (why didn't Southgate bring one???) who can cross from the left. If Foden and Trent don't help with that it makes no difference what they've done for their clubs ... they don't fit in.
isnt rice the best ball winner amongst the midfielders tho?
Perfectly said. It’s this simple. Not sure why people who think otherwise have an audience, or job in the industry.
C,mon Denmark ! !.
why didn't they pick Tyrick Mitchell he may not be world class but records show he is one of the most consistent leftbacks in the league since his debut
Every other team in the tournament will fear England a little less after that second half performance
Where the F! Was this being filmed…..Hogwarts? I’m sure some of those pictures on the wall were moving 😂
It’s not like we’re short of quality central midfielders. Why are we so afraid of giving youngsters a chance? Owen, Beckham, Rooney all played their best international football in their earlier years. A hungry Mainoo or Wharton could make a big difference here.
C'mon Denmark ! !.
@@francishughes2016yeah I don’t really care what happens as I’m an adult and it’s just a game. Would be nice to see some worthy youngsters given a chance though.
Gordon left, Palmer right, Watkins for Kane, Eze for Bellingham if it doesn't work or if it's totally under control. Use the squad.
Agree with Graeme about Jude potentially meeting the wrong dude on the wrong day with all that braggadocios attitude of his. Someone will put humble him soon if he carries on like that.
Rank the best UK TV pundits at the Euros so far:
- Fabregas
- Thomas Frank
- Keane
- Souness
- Moyes
- Shearer
- Lampard
- Ian Wright
- Joe Hart
- Micah
- McCoist
- Neville
Paralysis by analysis (Simons words)Some of this is superfluous drivel and quite frankly doesn't withstand scrutiny.
What a vacuous opinion
Very photosynthesis indeed
we need to cut through the nonsense
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Your comment puts me in an invidious position
Good conversation & views a lot better than the drivel on bbc itv
Troy deeney nailed it for me
You got distracted but the fact Foden was just hard work and run. Bellingham did the whole attacking+ carrying game. More open game v Denmark.
3 times European cup winner what have the other two ever won ? Souness was a class player.
Souness showing his anti Manchester United agenda once again. Mainoo gets on for five mins and manages to get called out by Souness.
Fundamentally, Graeme is such a homer for the Premier League that he cannot countenance the fact that the best player England has produced in generations doesn't play in the Premier League, so he's constantly overrating some English player on a Prem side like Foden or Maddison as being on Bellingham's level.
Nobody in the world is on Bellingham's level. If Foden can't figure out how to play on the wing, he needs to put backside in a seat.
Everyone seems to be dancing around the fact that Kane 1. Isn’t fit. 2. Dropping into spaces where PF, JB operate giving no one to play off. 3. Too slow. 4. Doesn’t stretch oppositions defence to create the distances for PF and JB to play
Even with that, get a winger who can get in behind. Or tell the current wingers to exploit the space.
Midfielders needs to create passes to Kane but Kane needs to run more and pressure defenders
What was Wenger thinking sending Walcott on that early?
"that result flattered Spain" because they had less of the ball Graham? Theyve got two direct, pacy wingers they absolutely battered Croatia. They dont need to pass it around with Williams and Yamal being there. It was a one sided game.
Why did Southgate change from his back 3 with wingers. Play 5 2 3 it would be great
My take on England is, they are unprepared, but that is not a bad thing. They are in transition. You have all these amazing players but are still learning how to get the best out of them in what position. He left out guys who would be sure starters historically or had to leave out, obviously, the left is an issue (injuries) all your left backs are injured or prone to (super weird), We can't tell the dude what to do. As a fan of football, I would lower my expectations for England to quarters, and use these games to find your feet. This is going to be one beast of a team in 2-3 years if you can find a fit left-back, or have players stay injury free.
Again, could be eating my words, but I'm only looking at it from a purely logical perspective. The football fates I can't control, and they are illogical at best
Well let’s hope a centre forward materialises. Kane has already slowed down and can’t see him being the same player in two/three years.
bit weird to be holding microphones rather than clips.
You can see he's stressed ever since Pogba retired
Don’t think so, he was proven right, can relax.
Ive grown to like Simon Jordan I understand him , souness is definitely the goat and we know Troy IS football royalty great show !
TAA is a right-sided attacking midfielder or wingback at best.
Not a number 6 or 8.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything good about people on this channel only themselves
so we are one of the favourites ....but I bet the German,Spanish,Italian and other national medias are not having these conversations about their national teams ....we are obviously still experimenting and tactically inept
These lads are deluded if they think the transport on trains in Germany is great it was a nightmare for england fans the first match. Living in s bubble lads!
Guys, I don't know what makes you think England are still the favourites..they were never the favourites..have you seen France,Germany, Spain and Italy?even the Dutch looked very well...I'd put them all ahead England to win it...
Why do people rate Luke shaw he’s diabolical😂😂😂😂
Leif Davies should be in that team
Jordan plus Souness. An ex-owner and ex-player and manager. Great. What's lacking is a really good journalist like say Rory Smith rather than another ex-footballer.
Yes he's doing too much when he gets the ball... it's like he wants to do everything... he should do what he's good at.... Bellingham..
Same as always: England are rarely more than the some of their parts, always relying on individual quality rather than building a good team no matter the personnel
Let’s give Watkins or Tony a start, Kane will deliver but those two are sooo hungry
Troy still got his cold then
Trent ain't the scapegoat, it's just blatantly obvious Southgate is just too defensive minded and it just didn't work at all, trent is a right back /winger and NOT a midfielder, and deeney just shouldn't be anywhere near the company of the likes of souness, average player at best in his day and knowhere near the top level guys, him being on here don't make no sense
What’s his career as a footballer got to do with him being a pundit? Jordan was a failed footballer and didn’t even have a career. Even lower on the ladder than Deeney.
Bellingham is phenomenal
Given this a try but much prefer the interviews
I like both tbf but I do hope SJ continues to do the interviews as well!
I called foden out when everyone was going on about him
As souness eluded, the footballing intelligence among players employed today is severely lacking
It's how the likes of modric bypass England s qualities
A lot of tricky modern youths like foden are circus acts
Jude did nothing in 2nd half....Walker was shit whole game......Saka was best player in 1st half along with jude....When saka was kept quiet in 2nd half , england had no answers....Midfield of TAA,Rice,Jude couldnt control the game in 2nd half....Whole team faded in 2nd half ...main reason was that shit mid who couldnt control game
Because they refuse to play the world's most skilful midfielder, Eberechi EZE. The ONLY player in the team that can actually beat a man, disrupt defences, and cause things to happen, is left on the bench, to play comparative donkeys like Foden and Arnold.
I rarely watch S Jordan, due to his arrogant I know best attitude, it explains why he lost Crystal Palace .. Trippier had a very poor season for Newcastle and was injured and made many mistakes that cost Newcastle. It beggars belief that Joe Gomez did not play Left back, he played that role for Liverpool 19 times last year, plus 7 as a central Midfield holding player alongside Endo, he played 25 times a RB, his versatility allows England to move Walker to a CB, it allows Gomez to cover MF where Rice struggled, and if Gomez started as a left back, then you are playing a player who is fitter than Trippier and allows England players to move to other positions.. Shaw will need 6 games to get match fit,
Rice struggled? What game were you watching??? Liverpool fan, by any chance? Put club loyalties aside.
C,mon Denmark ! !.
@@MrKeefy1967 Real football is played in the lower leagues, my observation is Rice is like a stodgy pudding, need helping out by Bellingham
@@ToniPhillips-tc9cl A stodgy rice pudding? He didn't need any help from Bellingham, he was masterful. Stop watching lower league football, it's making your observations stodgy.
Keep kidding yourself, Declan could not knock the skin of a Rice pudding without help
This English team I don’t think has the right balance and I don’t think they’ll go home early but I also don’t think they’ll win the euros honestly
If Southgate doesn’t make substitutions to change the game and just keeps sitting there like he’s meditating we’re never going to achieve anything
Troy Deeney talks like he's constantly bunged up
Trent, Bakayo and Phil were all poor for most of the game. Saka did one good run for the goal but otherwise never went past his full back. For a winger that’s poor. Trent is a very good player in the PL but that’s it. Phil like Bakayo is so talented but lack something in international football
I’d like to see Bakayo take more full backs on. Phil needs to get involved more and as Troy said needs a progressive full back helping him. Trent is a worry and shouldn’t start I’m afraid
Simon Jordan so insecure and thinks taking the piss out of someone all the time is banter
bellingham was not the highest goalscorer in spain last year
Trent was dreadful. Doesn't matter what the spin is.
i suppose you didnt watch the game/
@@moulinyan i dont think you watched it properly bro. He wasnt great. Gave the ball away crucially at times too. This so called forward passing/creative outlet we were gonna get with Trent was non existent that day
@@ravhirani2660 why would you play trent in a slow build up team. a double pivot wasnt needed, we had too many people there, walker bellingham rice, trent was going forward and not being found, focus on mistakes all you like. it happened because it was game one, and everyone doubted his midfield ability, and people expect him to do certain things, nerves may calm IF given another chance, and everyone will know he is needed as much as anyone. why is walker needed at RB in this game? he is old, save him for a decent winger. southgate has put the pressure on the player but could've been a real manager and played him at RB against part timers. you play proper football and you want be needing gallagher.
You most definitely didn’t watch the game what a mong😂😂😂 probably a manc aswell
Only Jude, Guehi, Saka and Walker played well with conviction.
Trent was OK, Foden was anonymous, and England had no threat from the left wing.
As a result , Kane got little service, and goal scoring chances were few.
England did retreat into their shells, and Serbia looked more likely to score in the second half.
As usual , Southgate failed to make the right substitutions early enough.
You should add Rice to that list.
@@MrKeefy1967 Yes, he was good as well.
C,mon Denmark ! !.