“England’s midfield is in a Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard time warp” 🇩🇪 Three Up Front in Frankfurt

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  • Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
  • On the final leg of Three Up Front’s trip around Germany, Simon, Graeme and Troy discuss the malaise around England’s performances, suggest playing Jude Bellingham deeper is the way for Gareth Southgate to improve his side and analyse the post season review that Manchester United undertook before confirming Erik Ten Hag would stay on as manager.
    There’s a story involving Troy, Graeme and a German donut man and Simon ponders the question as to how Sir Jim Ratcliffe can get his club to ‘be like Real Madrid’ after his latest comments about Manchester United.
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    00:00 Start
    00:23 Scotland vs Switzerland
    05:46 Steve Clarke
    06:59 England
    10:42 Southgate’s ability to adapt
    15:12 Declan Rice
    18:51 England’s substitutions
    20:46 Summary of England after 2 games
    23:47 Man Utd keeping Erik ten Hag

КОМЕНТАРІ • 623

  • @matt94alexander32
    @matt94alexander32 5 днів тому +129

    If Harry Kane was a true captain he’d invite Southgate for a meal and discussion then lock him in a basement somewhere to unshackle the England team.

    • @benellis2685
      @benellis2685 5 днів тому +6

      I agree

    • @digitalT83
      @digitalT83 5 днів тому +9

      hes not a leader is he, I never see him shouting at anyone else or guiding his team, he just runs about with his mouth open

    • @muns8928
      @muns8928 5 днів тому +2

      Or at least question him like Kimmich did to Flick in the world cup

    • @tatendamhuriro2735
      @tatendamhuriro2735 5 днів тому

      @@digitalT83😂

    • @lukebullen705
      @lukebullen705 5 днів тому

      ​@muns8928 tbf we don't know behind the scenes. Only reason you saw that Kimmich clip was because it was part of a documentary.

  • @johncannon3411
    @johncannon3411 5 днів тому +122

    if Southgate was a spice he would be flour

    • @michaelloran7021
      @michaelloran7021 5 днів тому +3

      😂😂😂

    • @PLayAshEFF72
      @PLayAshEFF72 5 днів тому +3

      Yeah, he’s not even worthy to be salt. It’s like going for a meal and having a slice of white bread

    • @MrBannystar
      @MrBannystar 5 днів тому +2

      Or Senna, because it makes you shit.

    • @kiriakoz
      @kiriakoz 5 днів тому

      flour is only a spice in England tbf.

    • @user-qk8yk7km1n
      @user-qk8yk7km1n 5 днів тому +1

      Cracked me up that 😄

  • @martinjasper7650
    @martinjasper7650 5 днів тому +33

    Southgate talking about not having Kalvin Phillips is the problem is a sackable offense.

    • @philiplewis7572
      @philiplewis7572 5 днів тому +5

      Should be gross misconduct

    • @Karma2Babylon
      @Karma2Babylon 4 дні тому

      And he could sue and absolutely get his job back because that is not what he said. And if you have it some thought it should be obvious what he meant.

  • @deanhambry5208
    @deanhambry5208 5 днів тому +47

    I can’t believe Southgate isn’t getting hammered for taking Shaw who’s injured and not played for half a season

    • @Jak3rzZ
      @Jak3rzZ 5 днів тому +2

      I completely agree with this, but I think if you asked majority of England fans, if there was a chance Shaw was going to be fit in the tournament but you didn't know when, I think most would still take him. That's how desperate our left back situation is. Other than Chillwell we dont really have any other left footed left back with experience.

    • @environm3ntalist549
      @environm3ntalist549 5 днів тому +9

      @@Jak3rzZ they dont need experience, it's about attitude and personality. Mitchell would have been fine.

    • @joba4848
      @joba4848 5 днів тому +2

      So true. Better to take a good, fit left back, than a great, injured one, surely?

    • @Jak3rzZ
      @Jak3rzZ 5 днів тому +1

      @@environm3ntalist549 I'm not saying I disagree, but how can you judge his attitude and personality when he doesn't have a single cap? He doesn't start over Tripper at left back at this stage, so we're not any further in this conversation

    • @environm3ntalist549
      @environm3ntalist549 5 днів тому +5

      @@Jak3rzZ you don’t need to see him play at international level to judge attitude or personality. Of course he starts over Trippier who is a makeshift left back and has had a very poor season.

  • @gohumberto
    @gohumberto 5 днів тому +50

    Southgate's entire Football Management Career = 3 years at Middlesbrough where got them relegated and got sacked. Then a couple of years with England U21s where nothing happened.
    THEN he gets the England job!!!! The guy has no practical experience of creating a successful team, and practically no real managerial experience at all.
    What did people expect to happen?

    • @Andrew-il1rh
      @Andrew-il1rh 5 днів тому +7

      He's a safe pair of hands for the FA. that's all they care about

    • @ds6914
      @ds6914 5 днів тому

      His record's very good though...
      He's looked at what wins euros and world cups and gone for that.
      Maybe someone else would do better. Maybe not...

    • @Andrew-il1rh
      @Andrew-il1rh 5 днів тому

      Lets judge him after this tournament. If they dont win it his record can't be judged as very good.​@ds6914

    • @jagonchichon590
      @jagonchichon590 5 днів тому

      What was Deschamps' club career like?

    • @RWxpZ2FyZA
      @RWxpZ2FyZA 5 днів тому +4

      @@jagonchichon590 Won Ligue 1 with Marseille, reached the Champions League final with Monaco in 2004, won multiple French cups with those two clubs, took over Juventus in difficult circumstances after the calciopoli scandal, and got them promoted back to Serie A. He had an accomplished club career. Hope this helps

  • @_Forza
    @_Forza 5 днів тому +81

    Southgate is so clueless his small brain can only focus on Philips 😂

    • @DanUnited16xo
      @DanUnited16xo 5 днів тому +4

      small brain😂 facts though

    • @Grigley0113
      @Grigley0113 5 днів тому +2

      Oh Kalvin
      You came and you gave without taking

    • @stephenhill545
      @stephenhill545 5 днів тому +2

      It's excuse time. Now his whole squad is too tired to press, just the other 31 teams can.

    • @alrightdave3893
      @alrightdave3893 5 днів тому

      😅😅 13:23 z

    • @ClarenceBoddicker87
      @ClarenceBoddicker87 4 дні тому

      They are both dumb yes men and members of the l gee bee tee club. Why you think phillips is so close with ben white too and ben white left the england camp. Its deeper than you think.

  • @benellis2685
    @benellis2685 5 днів тому +78

    "I don't think Trent knows whether he's having a shit or a haircut right now!" Brilliant 😂

    • @simoncooper8520
      @simoncooper8520 5 днів тому +9

      This is down to Southgate. Why come into a competition and come and say we're experimenting in that position!! None of this team has respect for Southgate and it shows. When these players have far greater managers at club level and then turn up for England!! 😂😂

    • @mrmonkey2214
      @mrmonkey2214 5 днів тому +2

      Great comment

    • @DeeClarke-lg1hp
      @DeeClarke-lg1hp 4 дні тому

      Neither does the rest of the team.

  • @VoiceOfThe
    @VoiceOfThe 5 днів тому +31

    Let’s stop beating around the bush here and call this out.
    Nothing, I repeat nothing will change until Southgate leaves.
    He plays the wrong formation and system for starters.
    The fundamental catalyst for all the problems discussed here is how Southgate approaches a football game - he plays not to lose, rather than plays to win.
    You don’t achieve anything in life, let alone football with this approach.
    He has to leave... and hopefully this will happen in the next few weeks when we get knocked out.

    • @bigmoneysteppa
      @bigmoneysteppa 5 днів тому +6

      Even if we win it he should still go.

    • @jonfallon7120
      @jonfallon7120 5 днів тому

      I've said this his entire career! Plays "not to lose". The man is an idiot and is wasting the best squad England have ever had. Kane has one tournament left, best natural striker we've ever had and he's been wasted

    • @adamnewman1849
      @adamnewman1849 5 днів тому +2

      If we got to the semis the FA will offer him a 4 year contract. That's a scary thought. Watching England is a chore and so deflating. And I'm as patriotic as the next man . We need a manager who isn't scared to take chances and has a attacking philosophy.

    • @VoiceOfThe
      @VoiceOfThe 5 днів тому +3

      @@adamnewman1849
      I do believe Southgate will step away after this tournament regardless what the FA offer.
      Reading between the lines I think whatever happens he feels eight years in the job without winning anything is enough and it will be time to go.
      Reasons to be positive

    • @adamnewman1849
      @adamnewman1849 5 днів тому +1

      @@VoiceOfThe I hope you're right. He's a decent man and he's obviously united the team . But tactically he's not good enough and he hesitates when it's glaringly obvious that we need to change things.

  • @kevingates8339
    @kevingates8339 5 днів тому +26

    Cole Palmer will get on when England are down in a knockout game with like 15 minutes left and England will get knocked out having only played one of their true game changers for less than 30 minutes

  • @lukelocks9083
    @lukelocks9083 5 днів тому +4

    These three work.
    Troy is a calm, respectful fella.

  • @yulimust8931
    @yulimust8931 5 днів тому +9

    Southgate replaces the tv remote batteries every month, you know to be Safe

  • @gooner72
    @gooner72 5 днів тому +5

    Love these 3 fellas as a team, they always make me laugh as they have the sarcastic humour that suits me perfectly. This is quickly becoming my favourite podcast channel.
    As for England, well....... I think modern football, and in particular this group of players, have outgrown Southgate, he's tactically inept and his coaching staff are incapable of getting the best out of this talent packed squad, which is unacceptable.
    Southgate is a PR man so the FA should give him a role within the England set up and they should then bring in a manager who fully understands modern football. Southgate and his staff are totally out of touch with the players we have and their squad selection just baffled me to be honest.
    Yes, its great to see that there are a lot of exciting new players but you still have to have experienced players within the squad, especially in the midfield, and we only have Declan Rice, who can't do everything on his own.
    So, to the English FA, I say "Go and get a modern, forward thinking manager who is bold, brave and technically clever........ if we want an Englishman, go and get Eddie Howe, if we're not bothered where he comes from, go and get a manager like Jurgen Klopp."

  • @tonyd5111
    @tonyd5111 5 днів тому

    Always a great listen and dynamic between the 3 of you👍.

  • @gherron777
    @gherron777 4 дні тому +1

    Enjoyed that, keep er lit lads.

  • @timdarville4827
    @timdarville4827 5 днів тому +1

    This show is brilliant. The best mix of banter and insight anywhere!

  • @Question3verything
    @Question3verything 5 днів тому +37

    Rooney got called out for saying he “wouldn’t have Trent anywhere near midfield”
    Mostly by Liverpool fans because he can do no wrong in their eyes..
    It hasn’t worked.. Southgate is that stubborn he will stick with it in the final game

    • @rogerdavies2796
      @rogerdavies2796 5 днів тому +2

      He won't.

    • @DanUnited16xo
      @DanUnited16xo 5 днів тому +6

      it shouldn't need Rooney to point that out bro, Klopp avoided playing him there for a reason yes I know he's drifted into midfield, but tucking into that position when you have the ball is completely different to getting pressed & staying there, he's not the only reason things are rough for England at the minute but it's a big factor for sure

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 5 днів тому +5

      I'm hoping he completely changes the team up but I've got a horrible feeling he's just going to drop Trent and put Gallagher in.

    • @floydtheboy1948
      @floydtheboy1948 5 днів тому +4

      @Question3verything Obsessed with Liverpool and Trent. Let me guess you support a team from Manchester? Trent is brilliant at right back and has proven it for years at the highest level with one of the best teams in Europe. Got us to three champions league finals and won a premier league as a right back. Last season Klopp also asked him to play a role where he not only plays right back, but also drops into midfield and picks out an array of amazing passes and crosses for Salah, Nunez, Jota and Diaz. He isn’t an out an out midfielder and Southgate shouldn’t play him there. He could easily play Trent as a right wing back in a 5-4-1 or 3-5-2 formation and he could effect the game, he’s also our best corner taker and a free kick specialist. If Southgate isn’t smart enough to see it he needs to drop Trent out of the team.. in the last game though, he wasn’t our worst midfielder. Rice had a shocker and Bellingham wasn’t doing much. Our whole midfield got outplayed..because our main centre forward can’t press and the whole team end dropping deep. Foden also doesn’t make runs behind.. which is why Trent has been selected, to find him in space, only Saka can run behind and Trent has found him a few times, we almost scored from it vs Denmark.

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 5 днів тому

      It hasn't worked because Southgate hasn't put the right players in place for TAA to make the sort of plays he's great at, has he? Like trying to race a Ferrari with no tyres.

  • @kapokia
    @kapokia 5 днів тому +3

    Love this show. Keep up the good work fellas.

  • @OfficialFingazMC
    @OfficialFingazMC 5 днів тому +18

    Shocking performance, everyone is saying it but HIGH PRESS ffs, like most of them do for their club.
    There's a photo floating around showing the average position of the England team for 15 minutes after we scored and it's so deep it's unreal!
    (on reddit in the EUROS sub, if anyone wants to see it)

    • @billybobthornton9668
      @billybobthornton9668 5 днів тому +3

      Primarily Kane's fault, jogging up to players out of possession and dropping too deep in possession. Both contributed to Denmark playing straight through our first line and enabled them to push their defensive line higher. As a consequence, our midfielders didn't have space to get their heads up to pick incisive passes, and we were instead forced to shuffle the ball to the next man at pace to escape their press.
      We looked a lot better with Watkins up front because he was threatening in behind and initiating aggressive presses high up the pitch. The problem was that we were without Trent to pick him out when he ran in behind. That's not to say that Trent would have been some kind of silver bullet to make us cohesive, but it just seemed a bit mad to take him off and then bring Watkins on, rather than giving them at least a few minutes to play together to exploit the high Danish line 🤷

    • @ps5andstuffhere
      @ps5andstuffhere 5 днів тому +3

      Can't find that image but yeah it's obvious they sit back after scoring

    • @keithbrown4300
      @keithbrown4300 5 днів тому +1

      There go them English pundits again swelling up Declan Rice as a superstar. He's done jack shit in 2 games at these Euros. Talk is cheap, production on the field of play tells the story.

    • @troytheboy1985
      @troytheboy1985 5 днів тому +1

      @@billybobthornton9668 well duh kane drops deeper the wide men push they get into space run down cut in play it to kane with a man city/arsenal cross and goal its not hard when the two best times do that

  • @user-qk8yk7km1n
    @user-qk8yk7km1n 5 днів тому +3

    Nearly every England manager falls into the trap of playing players out of position just to get names into the team, always results in an unbalanced dysfunctional team. If our best left back is a no name and plays in the championship it is still a better option than a right footer and that goes for every position on the pitch.

  • @JamesMc2051
    @JamesMc2051 5 днів тому +19

    A lot of England's problems, I think, are connected to their style of play. We (all British football fans because I'm Scottish) demand the quick pass, effort, effort, effort, run fast, jump high, keep moving......and it produces national teams that value physicality more than technique and having the brains to control games. I'd like to see teams that varied their play more and played through midfield a bit more. Basically, I wish we were a bit more Spanish in our football culture.
    But that's a long term wish. As for this current tournament:
    Scotland were better in the second game and should be happy to have a chance to go through. They know they need a win which is better than wondering about other results. I think they were making a few silly challenges though against the Swiss and it was heart-in-mouth stuff at times after the sending off in the first game. As with England, our midfield hasn't looked quite right either. The second game should surely cement Gilmour deeper in midfield and keeping McTominay in a more advanced position. Long term there, I'm not convinced by 3 at the back, but I don't expect any formation changes during this tournament. Clarke will play....
    Gunn -- Ralston, Hendry, Hanley, McKenna, Robertson -- Gilmour, McGregor -- McTominay, McGinn -- Adams
    And then it's about subs as there must be tired legs among that lot.
    England. Positives - they've been more defensively sound than I feared they might. Guehi has done well, mostly. I'd make changes for the third game. Not 11 changes but I'd definitely rest 4 or 5, with an eye on trying to stretch teams a bit. I think they've got too many players who want to play in a similar area, and they could do with a player stretching things there, as Bowen did immediately when he came on in the first game.
    Pickford - Walker, Stones, Guehi, Trippier - Mainoo, Rice, Wharton - Palmer, Watkins, Gordon
    I'd play the subs for various reasons. The first choice players haven't really performed. I suspect some have heavy legs and would benefit from a rest. Kane and Bellingham could be given 20 minutes at the end to keep them ticking over and Stones, Rice and Trippier could do with coming off after the hour. And I don't really believe in looking ahead at draws and trying to figure out who you might play because that often goes in ways you don't predict and then you are playing a team you've very obviously shown yourself wanting to avoid. Better just to do your thing and take on whoever you get. Since they are through, I'd risk being criticised for playing reserves against Slovenia because I think there's a strong case for it.
    Despite the concerns I'd much rather have us (Scotland) there than not, and England fans just have to hope that things kick into gear. He'll surely rest players in the next game so that should freshen things up a bit and might bring some optimism.

    • @anthonymcken6050
      @anthonymcken6050 5 днів тому +3

      I read the first few lines of what you said I remind myself of what the Germans called the English in the 90s "kick and rush". British football teams will never play with flair and finesse its not in the culture. The English team style wish is on the same level as the Scandinavian teams.

    • @tomrichards4956
      @tomrichards4956 5 днів тому +3

      Great comment! Well thought out and argued. 👍

    • @RFHYLAND
      @RFHYLAND 5 днів тому +1

      Agree Tom. Great comment.

    • @dannyholmes5156
      @dannyholmes5156 5 днів тому +1

      Absolutely brilliant comment and very genteel too
      Well said ⚒️❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤⚒️

    • @nichobee
      @nichobee 5 днів тому +3

      Mate i've been saying the exact same thing, and as soon as England produces anyone technically half decent they're overhyped as star boys.
      The problem with the British style is that it only works in the Premier League. It doesn't work in international football where teams sit back and give you time and space, and soak up all the effort and running that you throw at them. You need players that can make the ball do all the work.
      This is a reason why England gets so anxious and worried about formations and team selections, because when you lack 'technicians' it feels like only so many few combinations can work for you.
      The Brits tend to be athletes first and foremost and then footballers, whereas the opposite is predominately true on the continent.

  • @zanamandaza
    @zanamandaza 5 днів тому +4

    Video needs to be time stamped other than that, top notch stuff

  • @earbo6220
    @earbo6220 5 днів тому +2

    This tournament is amazing! Germany is a perfect host for a major tournament. I’m pretty sure half of Romania has been in Cologne the last 2 days. Every atmosphere has been outstanding and the fact the fans can drink beers at the games makes it even better.

    • @dannyferguson4827
      @dannyferguson4827 5 днів тому

      And the other half of Romania is out robbing especially in Scotland

  • @billybudd5854
    @billybudd5854 5 днів тому +4

    Graham Souness made a very telling point when he suggested that Southgate has to make a fundamental change in his head for England to improve. In other words, he needs to switch from negative to positive thinking. Really sad that the team are being held back by the man who is supposed to get the best out of them.

  • @johnbobby1092
    @johnbobby1092 5 днів тому

    Great show sensible talk 👍🏻

  • @soccerloop8513
    @soccerloop8513 5 днів тому +7

    Lovely setting for this podcast

  • @dontbewoke
    @dontbewoke 4 дні тому +2

    The Kalvin Phillips comment is one of the most bemusing crazy comments Ive ever seen from an England manager during a tournament in decades.
    How does GS think it makes Wharton Mainoo and Gallagher feel to basically tell the world theyre not good enough? We are done in this competition.....quarters if we're lucky.

  • @gillie-monger3394
    @gillie-monger3394 5 днів тому +4

    Yes Troy, it IS too easy to blame TAA. If he's got nobody running into spaces in front, and a captain constantly dropping back and getting in the way in midfield - who TF is he going to pass to ffs!? Then to take him off and THEN put runners on, I mean if that's not an example of how clueless Southgate is then I give up!

  • @eirenuaireland
    @eirenuaireland 5 днів тому +30

    If England had Scholes now they'd win the competition. Although it's highly possible Southgate wouldn't play him

    • @diego750
      @diego750 5 днів тому +15

      He'd play him on the left and still moan about not having Kalvin Phillips

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 5 днів тому +4

      They won FA with Scholes when he played for England

    • @unicornkatie8566
      @unicornkatie8566 5 днів тому +2

      They had scoles for about 12 year and still won nout 😂

    • @KyleReed-ts2kp
      @KyleReed-ts2kp 5 днів тому +4

      @@unicornkatie8566yeah he played left mid to make room for lampard and gerrard. How did that go

    • @garethdeere4822
      @garethdeere4822 5 днів тому

      He'd play him lb

  • @MrJevman
    @MrJevman 5 днів тому +3

    I’ve watched England for nearly 35 years and they’ve always had a problem keeping possession of the football but their lack of press off the ball in this tournament has been absolutely shocking, the worst in the competition.

    • @relax9674
      @relax9674 5 днів тому

      The press starts from the striker and kane simply doesnt have the legs anymore.

    • @MrJevman
      @MrJevman 5 днів тому

      @@relax9674 agreed. He looks like a spare part to me.

  • @leebannister2776
    @leebannister2776 4 дні тому +1

    Great to hear troy deeney on this. Well informed and not afraid of risking being ontroversial. Why not play Gallagher as the DM and allow rice to play his arsenal role with Bellingham or Foden as the 10. Palmer left, saka right and Watkins up front for pace and stretch the back line for the attacking midfielders to work best

  • @anthonymcpeak2234
    @anthonymcpeak2234 5 днів тому +1

    Love this show!

  • @edwarddonnachie1565
    @edwarddonnachie1565 5 днів тому +1

    Trent maybe out of his depth but Rice is also out of his depth. Rice is a water carrier at this level and never demands the ball.

  • @monkey39128
    @monkey39128 5 днів тому +6

    Does feel a bit like Rice is overrated, at least as a defensive midfielder. Henderson did that sitting role far better in 2018 and I wouldn't say Henderson is a world class player by any means.

    • @dshannon565
      @dshannon565 5 днів тому +1

      Miles overrated. If he was from any other country the English would be saying he’s overrated. Rice is a good box to box midfielder. No where 100 million player and he can’t dictate the game. The English media keep saying that rice should play as the repo lying playmaker midfielder but the reality he can’t do that role. Simple.

    • @earbo6220
      @earbo6220 5 днів тому

      He just needs to be more of a leader and direct what’s in front of him. Maybe someone should show him how the German and Spanish midfield
      Connect with each other.

    • @Airyed
      @Airyed 4 дні тому

      The prem suits him because he can use his size and strength to influence games but international football is a different level

  • @gillie-monger3394
    @gillie-monger3394 5 днів тому +3

    Excuse me but what group are Utd playing in, in the tournament? Because I've looked and can't find them anywhere...

  • @daveUK1066
    @daveUK1066 5 днів тому +4

    27:40 Troy is in his element here 😅

  • @samburrell3288
    @samburrell3288 5 днів тому +1

    I'm surprised Southgate isn't playing Ramsdale in goal, considering he's had basically no first team football all season

  • @leejohnson3209
    @leejohnson3209 5 днів тому +9

    England have too many goal hangers in the team. They're all hanging around their own goal though which is a completely unique style Gareth has invented. That's genius.

    • @DanUnited16xo
      @DanUnited16xo 5 днів тому +2

      😂😂😂 you had me in the first bit

  • @dmoy475
    @dmoy475 5 днів тому

    I'm a minute in and already Graeme and the lads have me in hysterics, brilliant

  • @user-tx3bs3eq7l
    @user-tx3bs3eq7l 5 днів тому +3

    Souness goes on about “if you’re a big player you’ve got to deal with it etc” you look at Scotlands team- team as a whole is a top 10 championship side. That’s what you’re working with. They aren’t “big players” there’s a few good players who can hold their own and a couple that excel in the premier league but 6 out of the 11 aren’t premier league level. That’s just who they are- no need to dissect it like they are meant to be doing loads better.
    England should get far more criticism than Scotland and I’m an Englishman. That’s a team that should be dominating sides given the personnel.

  • @hashtag_thisguy
    @hashtag_thisguy 5 днів тому +5

    Perspective. France, the other favourites are through without having scored a goal-, 1 win(own goal) , 1 draw.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 5 днів тому +2

      True but they've looked sharper.

    • @willtallis5275
      @willtallis5275 5 днів тому +1

      France were never the scary team Germany are rampant this time Spain are good Italy are just Italy Portugal look good design matter who we face we’re going home soon

    • @rachelhenderson491
      @rachelhenderson491 4 дні тому

      Good point, I think they also played better teams.

    • @hashtag_thisguy
      @hashtag_thisguy 4 дні тому

      @@CC1984_ they should have lost 1-0 to the Netherlands... Saved by VAR

  • @garywilson1235
    @garywilson1235 4 дні тому

    Troy Deeney. What a manager he was !

  • @bond12
    @bond12 5 днів тому +1

    I Love This Trio!!! Souness, Jordon And Deeney!!!!!!!!!!

  • @joshuacullen3217
    @joshuacullen3217 4 дні тому

    Very good point about shoehorning the best players in. That's exactly what it looks like on the pitch.

  • @chrisrubio2218
    @chrisrubio2218 5 днів тому +1

    Love this show

  • @davehilton3588
    @davehilton3588 5 днів тому +2

    'I can name 10 better', 'go on then ', only names Rodri and changes topic

  • @ShillingfordEmpire
    @ShillingfordEmpire 5 днів тому +8

    I enjoy this channel but they've spent 10 minutes talking about Man Utd and Ten Hag, saying the same things they've said before, when we're in the middle of the Euros. The obsession is crazy! Move on

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 5 днів тому +1

      It's getting frustrating now.

    • @goosybeats
      @goosybeats 5 днів тому

      It gets more clicks

  • @CharlesCollins-tx6ih
    @CharlesCollins-tx6ih 5 днів тому +1

    Simon has been right all along about Southgate,
    When will the chickens come home to roost...

  • @theobserver2267
    @theobserver2267 5 днів тому +3

    Perhaps instead of talking about Phillips as an individual i think Southgate may have meant that He doesn't have the partnership, understanding and connection that Rice and Phillips have together? That maybe Mainoo, Wharton, Gallagher dont click as well with Rice as well as Kalvin does?

    • @OfficialCarebox
      @OfficialCarebox 5 днів тому +4

      It doesn't matter what he meant by it. He talked about a player he CHOSE to not bring with him. Mentioning him throws shade on anyone currently in the squad playing that position and it's not gonna go down well at all. The solution to Englands issues are so glaringly obvious that even I can see what they are, yet Southgate can't. It speaks volumes

    • @thierryhenry674
      @thierryhenry674 5 днів тому

      Either way is too conservative and too defensive.
      If it was Spain, they wouldn’t allow a non technical player like Rice to play on the pitch, let alone two to three of them at the same time.

    • @theblues8840
      @theblues8840 5 днів тому

      Wharton next to Rice is an upgrade on Phillips

    • @theobserver2267
      @theobserver2267 5 днів тому

      @@theblues8840 possibly with Whartons ability. But if him and Rice don't click as well as rice and Phillips do then does that make us stronger? I hope they do click together or at least Rice clicks with one as of yet he hasn't.

    • @leepeters3683
      @leepeters3683 5 днів тому

      Phillips has been irrelevant for nearly 2 years now ffs him saying that has lost the dressing room Shaw injured surerly common sense says put. Gordon on the left who runs his socks off and can back the left back up all day Arnold in midfield is so embrassing it's laughable all the attacking threat and it's the defence taking the plaudits and rightly so putting foden on the left to get taa in is a ffin joke

  • @des6071
    @des6071 5 днів тому +9

    What Greame is saying about Rice dropping 15 yards and having it off his centre-half, then knocking it 5, is what Mark Noble did for years at West Ham. I was convinced Noble was doing it just to get his stats up. He’d have the ball off a defender, who’d played international football and won trophies and knock 5 yards inside and have it back and knock it 5 to the fullback. It’s the defenders job to fuck him off out of there. Tell him that he’s not needed. Rice is only doing the same blag he saw Noble do for years.

    • @markwillson2491
      @markwillson2491 5 днів тому +1

      Your right, I wouldn't mind if he played it through the channels. Instead sideways and backwards. It's all too slow pedestrian

    • @MakinaMakinaMakina
      @MakinaMakinaMakina 5 днів тому

      Rices issue is his passing. He’s quality at carrying the ball and running at players which is why he’s been class as an 8 for Arsenal. But his lack of passing means when he’s picking it up from the defence he’s not confident enough to thread a pass forwards

    • @des6071
      @des6071 5 днів тому

      @@markwillson2491it’s a con job. It gets your touches and completed passes stats up. A strong CH wouldn’t stand for it. Greame made a brilliant point. I made it for years over West Ham. Good defenders don’t need midfielders having it short on the edge of their third. It’s a con job.

    • @KevinSheedy10
      @KevinSheedy10 5 днів тому +1

      @@MakinaMakinaMakinaHe’s bang average in possession. He can get away with it for Arsenal in the EPL but he is found out in the Champions League and at international level

    • @IWTBF
      @IWTBF 4 дні тому

      Too much of this going in football / premier league now. It’s pathetic and unnecessary

  • @mrdickywaters
    @mrdickywaters 5 днів тому

    nice chat that fellas

  • @iainrae6159
    @iainrae6159 4 дні тому

    Curious how before the tournament the same team and manager were being praised and lauded by the media.

  • @rickylovesyou
    @rickylovesyou 4 дні тому +1

    Portugal, England, France and Spain are severly handicapped from having coaches who've achieved nothing. The sad part is one of these teams will probably win it, not for great management but because they have overwhelming talent. Had they selected a world class elite coach theyd have a guaranteed ride to the final.
    I really hope england can get out of this current FUCK.

    • @artschool673
      @artschool673 3 дні тому

      Erm...Portugal and Spain have changed their coaches and they seem to be doing better than in the past tournament.

  • @user-cw7ce1gd9r
    @user-cw7ce1gd9r 4 дні тому

    This is what I was saying we got that scholes lamps Gerrard situation trying to play em all creates that square peg round hole situation and it affects the whole team as a whole re tactics and performances

  • @JordanLock-cn3bg
    @JordanLock-cn3bg День тому

    Still baffled where Troy Deeney fits in with these two 😂

  • @dwayne1108
    @dwayne1108 3 дні тому

    I’m must say.. I like this Trio 🙌🏾💪🏾

  • @sandipchudasama6889
    @sandipchudasama6889 5 днів тому +2

    Im sure Phillips has a secret tape of Southgate

  • @folio8474
    @folio8474 5 днів тому

    I have had many pints after work exactly where these 3 lads are sitting. Great spot

  • @madcat1007
    @madcat1007 5 днів тому

    The yellow streak on the Scotland kit is very suitable!!

  • @devilfacedjedi
    @devilfacedjedi 5 днів тому +1

    Phil Foden is 24 years old. Why are we talking about him like he’s a little kid? He’s played for city for 7 season and has played as a “number 10” for half a season. He plays for a team where 75% of the games they play are a walkover. Playing him on the left wing is NOT out of position. The same cannot be said about Trent. Everyone is hypnotised because of his ball playing ability. But we’re only hypnotised by it because he’s a right back And right backs with his ability don’t exist, but midfielders do and as a midfielder he’s bang average in comparison. When he’s played in midfield for Liverpool he’s playing against sheff Utd and Luton. He never got played there against Villa or Arsenal or city.

    • @Cafez27
      @Cafez27 5 днів тому

      This isn’t true, Foden is at his most effective central, which is where he played most of minutes last season for City.
      If anything he has a right side bias cutting in to unleash that left foot. There are 4 players being played out position depending on the plan.
      Bellingham is NOT a 10, in 2 games he has made 10 passes into the final third, only 1 against Denmark, he is making 0.5 key passes per game, his xA is 0.33 and has lost possession 10 times…..he is NOT a 10. He is an 8, which is where he effectively plays for Madrid with a left side bias.
      Foden is also being played out of position. He is clearly being asked to hold that width but that is simply not his game. Great example is the first minute of the Denmark game, Foden comes in field on the first attack, we turn possession over the there is acres of space for Denmark to run into and create the first chance of the game.
      We all know Trent is being played out of position, so enough said, the poor performances aren’t his fault.
      To Declan, I’m an Arsenal fan, and he had the worst game I’ve seen from him in years. Why, in part because he was effectively and one man midfield, neither Jude nor Trent did any defensive work, their positional play was simply terrible, which saw Rice being dragged all across the back line.
      I would also say Declan is not a world class player at platforming attacks, he is a world class transition killer and driver with the ball. Mikel deploys him as an 8/b2b player, he doesn’t have the line break capability Rodri has.
      So what’s the answer, it is blatantly obvious, we have to platform our best players, Jude needs to play alongside Declan, with a license to go forward selectively, but he MUST not dominate the ball, let Foden do that in the 10 role, he is way better than Jude in that role.
      Play Gordon on the left, he is a natural LW with PACE and will play to Kanes strengths as he will get service and we have an over the top ball option. Saka stays RW, he is by a mile the best in that position, BUT we have to platform him. So far it’s been all about accommodating Jude, we have to platform our 4 best players properly, but playing them in their right positions.
      Subs if things need changing up, simple, Palmer for Foden, Wharton for Jude, we should have e Grealish as an option for Gordon it’s a scandal he isn’t there!!!
      This isn’t difficult unless seemingly your name is Gareth Southgate!!!

    • @devilfacedjedi
      @devilfacedjedi 5 днів тому

      @@Cafez27 he didn’t play in the centre for Man City last season until mid December. Which is Give or take it was halfway through the season

    • @Cafez27
      @Cafez27 5 днів тому

      @@devilfacedjedi totally wrong I’m afraid, take a look at his PL heat map he has a right sided centre bias it’s not even close, he spends virtually no time on the left. It is as I said he is a CAM with a right side bias.

    • @Cafez27
      @Cafez27 5 днів тому

      @@devilfacedjedi judge on the other hand has a massive midfield left side bias, playing as an 8 or even deeper.
      Play him on the left alongside Declan, Phil on the right/centre side
      It’s quite simple

  • @glazersout4272
    @glazersout4272 День тому

    "Southgate's INABILITY to react". Fixed that for you.

  • @jamal1079
    @jamal1079 4 дні тому

    Where was this filmed?

  • @neilherring
    @neilherring 5 днів тому +1

    Bellingham, Rice and Foden arent even half the players, Scholes, Lampard and Gerrard were.

  • @sartorialboss
    @sartorialboss 5 днів тому

    Why didn't any of the 3 of them not mention that Cole Palmer is not starting or getting off the subs bench?! He was the top goals and assists player in midfield last season, absolutely bizarre choices by Southgate!

  • @Aeyeilluminati
    @Aeyeilluminati 5 днів тому +1

    " doesn't know if he's having a sh!t or a haircut " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Change_II
    @Change_II 5 днів тому +1

    3-4-1-2 is the best system for this squad.
    Bellingham. Kane.
    Foden.
    Saka Rice Mainoo Trent
    Guehi Stones Walker

  • @oliverwhite9963
    @oliverwhite9963 5 днів тому

    love it when souness goes back to it when their tails were up

  • @paisleylfc6367
    @paisleylfc6367 5 днів тому +2

    Stop scapegoating Trent, the whole team looked bad and did not improve when Trent went off. If you play Trent, he has to have players who are making runs so he can pass the ball and create. The common denominator is Southgate and the pundits are unfair to the players, it a wonder anyone wants to play for England.

  • @mrmonkey2214
    @mrmonkey2214 5 днів тому +1

    "Current funk... funk"
    Simon Jordan

  • @Makainternational
    @Makainternational 4 дні тому

    We all know what the answer is. Play Mainoo next to Rice. The answer is right there on the bench!! Mainoo has it all in his locker at 19. He takes the ball so well off the back four, can pick out a pass, is hungry and disciplined.

  • @rm_ewing
    @rm_ewing 4 дні тому +1

    Compares rice with two attacking midfielders De Bruyne and Bernardo Silva seems fair

  • @ShaunGarland-qo6um
    @ShaunGarland-qo6um 5 днів тому

    Troy at 25:07 - spot on, couldn't agree more.

  • @markwillson2491
    @markwillson2491 5 днів тому +1

    Souness was a fine player, a leader and hard as nails. Should give the england job to him even though his a jock! England should play 3 up front in this game with foden central. can wharburton play left back natural left foot and playing left mid could slot in, he should be able too. Rice one holding midfielder.But no SG will play gallacher

  • @temmmii
    @temmmii 5 днів тому

    as a lfc fan, you deffinetly start trent, but as rb. you only play walker there against strong teams. they open so much more with others on midfield.

  • @Trecesolotienesdos
    @Trecesolotienesdos 5 днів тому +2

    Southgate MUST be bold and make a decision. The TEAM is most important! the TEAM has a bad structure!!

  • @human777
    @human777 5 днів тому +4

    It’s the same old from England + Southgate. We obviously have the ability to win a World Cup, let alone a Euros. But we do not have the right mentality or tactics. To lose at home to Iceland, scrape a win against Serbia and draw to an average Denmark side in the last 3 games and think we’re gonna win the Euros is laughable. The players look lost, scared and lethargic. There is no shape, no balance, no patterns of play. We have an embarrassment of riches to pick from, yet in our starting 11, 3 players are not playing in their natural positions. We have started the last 2 games with 3 natural Right Backs on the pitch. I doubt Southgate has the nerve to tell Kane to pull his finger out and stay up top. Why on earth is Tyrick Mitchell not even in the provisional squad? Solid, natural left back, yet Southgate plays a RB at LB and takes an injured LB as backup. Sackable offence.

    • @elthamo
      @elthamo 5 днів тому +1

      Agree entirely, even Lewis Hall could have been looked at, we'll win nothing playing Trippier at left back, it's beyond a joke. England have had the same problems ever since I can remember, despite having a massive pool of players to choose from managers have preferred to play a big name out of position rather than someone who is less well known but in their natural position. I remember Gary Pallister being played at left back FFS!!!!!

  • @Philoyouknow
    @Philoyouknow 5 днів тому

    Klopp knew "Why play the best right-back in the world in midfield?" Play Cole Palmer.

  • @lukanyotwentiey5357
    @lukanyotwentiey5357 5 днів тому

    Why Am I Not Hearing About Kobbie Mainoo Hear.. The Kid Had An Exceptional Season.. Scored Big Goals Against Liverpool & City With MOTM Performances.. MOTM On His England Full Debut
    What More Does He Need To Do Besides Being A Couple Years Older?????

  • @millsy1861
    @millsy1861 5 днів тому

    Souness's opinion on Rice is spot on, thought he was supposedly a leader too, not seen any leadership skills from him either, if he was a leader he wouldn't be defending the 18 yard line hed be pushing the team up the pitch, just like a Terry, Adams or Butcher would be.

  • @Marshyd15
    @Marshyd15 4 дні тому +1

    Southgate puts a high-vis vest on to go up into the loft

  • @user-yu7ko6do4k
    @user-yu7ko6do4k 3 дні тому

    Gareth Southgate wears a hi-vis when he goes in his loft

  • @stevefletcher7531
    @stevefletcher7531 4 дні тому

    If the front players are not getting beyond the half way line, how is someone like Trent supposed to hit the passes to them ?

  • @Alex18NY
    @Alex18NY 5 днів тому +3

    3 SIGNIFICANT weaknesses on England's team - Pickford, Kane, and Southgate. Plus, there is no mental resolve.

    • @human777
      @human777 5 днів тому +2

      Pickford always performs for England. Agree with the other 2.

    • @jakequainton8410
      @jakequainton8410 5 днів тому

      The left back, stones and Bellingham injuries, plus the midfield partnership😢

    • @willtallis5275
      @willtallis5275 5 днів тому

      @@human777that goal was miles out and he could have just stopped it with his feet he dived and still missed it he’s crap always in a team battling relegation aswel we’re overrated as

    • @user-nl8vz9md7e
      @user-nl8vz9md7e 5 днів тому +1

      Pickford is statistically the best keeper in the world.
      That's a shocking shout.
      12 tournament games ...9 clean sheets...
      You have made yourself look a bit silly here .
      Pickford is the only reason Southgate still has this job.
      Now 14 with 10 clean sheets.

    • @user-nl8vz9md7e
      @user-nl8vz9md7e 5 днів тому

      ​@@willtallis5275another bad shout.
      22 legs in the way of seeing it...may have sumin to do with it ....

  • @user-jv7ez2mf4u
    @user-jv7ez2mf4u 5 днів тому

    Why does everybody talk is restricting England to play with 2 holding mids instead of 1.
    Rice with Foden and Bellingham. Gordon, Palmer, Kane.

  • @cgdimension
    @cgdimension 4 дні тому

    this is what happens when you use friendlies to experiment and constantly change rather than use them to solidify familiarity as a team, they dont know each other well enough

  • @steverichards7623
    @steverichards7623 5 днів тому

    Simon 14:17 the changes were perplexing, because he took of the one player (Trent) that would of been able to play to Watkins strengths. Bring Trent off the bench with Watkins and/or Toney, Bowen.

  • @user-yu7ko6do4k
    @user-yu7ko6do4k 3 дні тому

    Gareth Southgate wears swimming goggles when he chops onions

  • @Cosmas856
    @Cosmas856 4 дні тому

    From England and ending up with Manchester United manager Ten Hag uhh Simon 🙌🏻

  • @David-zp5uh
    @David-zp5uh 5 днів тому

    I quite like these 3 together

  • @dundeedolphin
    @dundeedolphin 5 днів тому

    I have misyivings about Steve Clarke but there is no conversation to be had about his future without a clear idea about exaxtly who would replace gim, and exactly what they would bring to the role.

  • @barbarohelm9697
    @barbarohelm9697 5 днів тому +4

    Wharton, rice Bellingham. Is the best balanced midfield

    • @willtallis5275
      @willtallis5275 5 днів тому

      We have a player who has had motm performances for club and country this end of the season he scored the inner in the fa cup final and motm again he got motm England debut give him some mins get Cole palmer on for some mins aswel the so called great players aren’t delivering so get them off we cant keep waiting for the game where finally foden does something it may never come

    • @barbarohelm9697
      @barbarohelm9697 5 днів тому

      Mainoo is quality but I don't want Southshite anywhere near him ..

  • @davecooke914
    @davecooke914 5 днів тому +5

    Sack Southgate hes clueless 👍

  • @kilimanjarobottom_up941
    @kilimanjarobottom_up941 4 дні тому

    Why does playing players out of position work for Pep but not for other managers though?

  • @neilherring
    @neilherring 5 днів тому

    Southgate should have spotted after 15 minutes, that the Alexander-Arnold 'experiment' wasnt working. After yeras of watching England you can always spot one thing, how they are going to play after only ten minutes of a match.

  • @hellenicspirit9849
    @hellenicspirit9849 5 днів тому

    Man that Souness is damn fit for 71…legend!

  • @darrenedwards6538
    @darrenedwards6538 5 днів тому +1

    Look at the Belgian team last night ..they come off the pitch shattered &dripping wet shirts , England come off & look like they can do another 90mins!!

  • @TrevorAngel
    @TrevorAngel 5 днів тому

    F***ing brilliant! ❤

  • @garethdeere4822
    @garethdeere4822 5 днів тому +1

    Its almost as if England need a strong manager who picks a team. Not a group of players on name and reputation. Sadly england have Southgate.

  • @sonnypembleton6706
    @sonnypembleton6706 5 днів тому +1

    Graham “British attitude” Souness

  • @anthonymcken6050
    @anthonymcken6050 5 днів тому +1

    Its canny that you mention Scholes, Gerard and Lampard because this Euro team is giving me World Cup 2010 vibes. Draw with USA, nil nil with Algeria and struggle to get past Slovenia who we play next. So I expect us to scrape past Slovenia and then get trashed in the round of sixteen. History repeating itself, Ground hog day, deja vu, a glitch in the Matrix.

  • @tobiolowokure2602
    @tobiolowokure2602 4 дні тому

    Did this man just say he thinks Rice is a CB???? My goodness