I totally sympathize with this woman, and I sense that the people who were laughing also understand. I used to be besieged by thoughts... constant, unwelcome, tiresome, pathological thoughts... The awful narrator that just won't shut up. You don't have to live this way! What it took for me was a sustained meditation practice and a concerted effort outside meditation to maintain awareness of the thoughts, to not identify with them, and to focus on the quiet spaces between the thoughts. It's important not to judge them or reject them, just let them be and don't follow them. I remember the first time I went for a walk and my mind was quiet... really quiet, and all experience became more vivid. It was like walking out of prison... What incredible joy! I'm so much happier now that I can turn my thoughts off (or down, at least). Highly recommended ;-)
Not even the need to turn off the thoughts i would say. But to just let them be by realizing... 👀👻 And YES... the laughter of the others shows that they are also familiar with this sort of divine game of hide and seek, getting lost and finding your SELF again... and again... 😍
How innocent, in the ignorance of what "we really are", so many of us are trapped!! Trapped, by believing in the bloody commentator☹ . How I sympathise with this lady. May we pierce through this veil 🙏 . Thank you Rupert and thank you to everyone ❤
I love Rupert and I respect his approach to teaching non duality but sometimes it seems like he’s so unwilling to meet people where they are and he ends up talking in circles. Yes, we are all pure being. We are all pure awareness. Intellectually knowing this is one thing but being able to embody that and make that our moment to moment experience can be challenging and it’s clear this woman was simply saying she finds it challenging to feel the freedom of her being because she feels as if her being is always clouded by thoughts. I am sure we can all certainly relate to that regardless of how well we know the truth of our being or not.
Well said. It's clear he's trying to help but sometimes it doesn't work. Many/most people need to practice in some way just to relax enough to even notice the "screen" to which he so eloquently refers.
Almost all people desire is sense of permanent euphoria and that's where money making comes in. All techniques are there detach yourself from thoughts, but what if thoughts can be used to write a book or maybe a journal that nobody ever reads? Thoughts are energy and it is a rule of science that energy just cannot be quenched, it has to be transformed. Most teachers fail to tell people that it is one's own mission to find ways to transform the thought energy into something. All they teach is ignore thoughts or keep watching them as they come and go. The struggle will go on till people mature their minds enough to recognise that thoughts can be converted into benign forms like playing music, art or just writing a short story WITHOUT worrying about the audience. Just do it for the sake of energy transformation or thoughts can make one insane after a point.
Brilliant🙏🏼. In all the years I have committed to non duality, many of those in the presence of an enlightened master, the explanation in this Satsang is the simplest, most profound, pragmatic, and useable teaching one could ever ask for. Rupert’s questions left the students ego, nowhere to run or hide! Very funny Satsang to🤣
Love Rupert's laughing, always relaxes me!! 😆 Everything is a cosmic joke, we need to realise that & start laughing!! Eventually Everything is good & Everything is Valid!!! Spirituality or Not, you are exactly where you supposed to Be!!! So Just BE!!! ❤️🙏✨😊
Be aware of awareness itself. After 30+ years, this ended seeking and opened the door to liberation. Thoughts no longer dominate this life. You do this both in meditation and in every waking moment as well. Be persistent and it “Will” happen. It’s the only thing Rupert really needs to teach. All else is just business.
@ With little to no thought, the tension associated with thought disappears. If you have ever managed to rest in no thought for any period of time, you know what this feels like. Imagine that 24/7. Remember, that alone is not liberation. Liberation is a complete non judgmental witness of reality in this no thought state. Pre-death. Total liberation, post death of which you do not experience as the conscience you. That is it in a nutshell. There is no further experience which is what seekers do not want to hear. There is this no thought stillness, felt all the time, with a realization that this is it, no more desire or chasing the thrills of life. It all just flows and you flow along with it. There is no other way to describe it. In fact, this is too much already. Just place awareness on awareness itself for as long and often as you can. This “will” happen.
@@AKA_SIMPLYHUMANthanks for the response, fascinating to read your experience of this. When you say “there is no desire, or chasing the thrills of life” what does that mean exactly, do you not have cravings say for simple things like a can of coke on a hot day or something small like that?
Or is there no desire because thought has ceased entirely? Although, I imagine it doesn’t cease entirely, more like thoughts just come and go. Also, in your experience was there a gradual progression towards “realisation”?
Thanks! 🙏❤...this lady can also try listening to Eckhart Tolle...he has some beautiful tips on how to remain without thinking...inner body awareness is very helpful in keeping thinking at bay...sometimes a change of pointers really help.
there is everything in this. the whole human dance with being, as being. Until recently I think I would have found it uncomfortable perhaps even triggering. But having recognised what he points to it is quite beautiful. What fascinates me is how what would have felt violent to me at some stage now feels so full of compassion. It is very curious. But it makes me smile.
Almost all people desire is sense of permanent euphoria and that's where money making comes in. All techniques are there detach yourself from thoughts, but what if thoughts can be used to write a book or maybe a journal that nobody ever reads? Thoughts are energy and it is a rule of science that energy just cannot be quenched, it has to be transformed. Most teachers fail to tell people that it is one's own mission to find ways to transform the thought energy into something. All they teach is ignore thoughts or keep watching them as they come and go. The struggle will go on till people mature their minds enough to recognise that thoughts can be converted into benign forms like playing music, art or just writing a short story WITHOUT worrying about the audience. Just do it for the sake of energy transformation or thoughts can make one insane after a point.
Absolutely lovable interchange. And my thinking loved it too. Her description is perfect of that commentator. Your, Rupert, declaration of loving to think sooooo helped me reconcile with my frequently pesky commentator on the edge of the screen. Moreover some dam just washed away wrt to the intellect vs brain/neurons HQ vs practical tool with and without the ego form present. Thank you. Thank you. 😂 ❤❤❤
I felt like she was miss understood and mocked. Not knowing is the journey. It also brings to mind that people often take Rupert’s words as gospel and this only splinters his teachings. Being is being but how we relate to it is only known by I.
What manner of magnificently good fortune, good karma, endless countless benevolent magnanimous generosity has one performed to suddenly find one’s self fortunate enough to be here enabled to comprehend this brilliant eloquent, elegant, compassionate Shakespearean Buddha Houdini, lovingly disentangle and reveal the Self in front of a patient, loving, admiring, entertained, confident audience? Something that could not be accomplished in years upon years of endless study. You have, my dear friend, entered the hallowed halls of the Rupert Spira Spiritual Finishing School for those ready enough to put an end to learning.
She may like his colleague Francis and realize that the thinking has lots of resistance mixed in. Letting go of resistance and effort makes the thinking not much of a problem. You have to notice the resistance and effort in the body so that it's possible to feel the muscle tension in the psycho-physical space and now the tension is conscious so the mind can relax. Usually the tension is throughout the body, but especially around the head and neck.
Affect comes before cognition. Ask how am I feeling right now is a good place for self enquiery and this can resolve a lot of the unnecessary thinking that's problamatic. The screen has the ability to focus its attention on itself in many levels yet it is always the screen.
That was so precious. Her earnest, beseeching of help, of relief from thought; his guidance, examples, gentle laughter and encouragement, slow down my own thoughts! I find thinking tiresome, especially when it gets so out of control, going in circles, fueling worry, regrets, anxiety. Precious are the moments when thoughts cease, and the ocean calms. Meditation, abiding in silence, attentive to silence in the background of activity, spending time around realized souls, spending time in nature, listening to Rupert and other spiritual offerings, give rest to the weary mind. So thankful for these expanding moments of peace. I don’t know how things were for the questioner when she went back to her seat. But, it is very possible that she sat down and fell into a deep, silent, restful place free of thoughts!🩵☮️😌🥲
The mind is neutral. It is the undercurrents in the ocean that can give rise to the weather. The weather affects one's temperament. One's temperament affects one's thoughts and thinking. Music is like a summer breeze it is the best medicine.
I would love to see Rupert Spira on psychedelics. That would be a powerful speach afterwards. Might begin to talk like Terence McKenna. "The mushroom said to me once, that you're awareness alone".
I'm fairly certain that you're joking (and it is funny), nut mushrooms - or any substances - and their attending psychedelic experiences are entirely conceivable and perceivable, meaning their nature is duality. The nature of Nonduality is stillness and silence _ only; all else is duality.
Your thoughts aren't you. Just like your hunger to eat, isn't you. If you simply step back, you will notice that your hunger is automatic and is a part of your body and mind acting in unison for a desired outcome. And in this case, to eat. You have a choice to make then. You can simply observe the hunger, this feeling, and appreciate it. Notice its role. Or you can fear it, thinking if you do not fulfill this desire, something bad may happen. One will lead to understanding, the other will lead to loss of self-control or misdirection. Work to be with your thoughts, like you would be with a child. Patient and understanding. Do not push them away. Pandoras box was formed by attempting to capture chaos and control it. The solution was always to allow chaos to flow naturally but use order to understand it and create from it.
Ramana Mararashi clearly said in the analogy of the rope and and snake you either see the snake (person/world) or the rope (being/god). There is no seeing of both simultaneously Which contradicts a lot of teachers who suggest you see the world as a person and retain the understanding that you are (often expressed as in the background) the being. Ramana clearly says no this is not true.
I have been down that road... Best results for me was: Do not judge a though as good or bad (every thoughts are neutral until we judge / we give them meaning). Just observe them like leaves flowing down a river. Remain neutral and don't judge anything = this can feel so blissful. All the best, Lee PS Soon as we or the ego judges a thought as negative, it amplifies it more and more (normally until we re okay with it not being okay, paradoxically).
Incorrect. Just because *you* do not acknowledge something doesn't mean it isn't there. You either take action to combat issues (of any type: physical, mental, emotional, psychological, spiritual, etc.), or else... they shall flourish upon their own recognizance. No exceptions. And simply "not thinking about things" is not only a terrible idea, it's probably the WORST one of all. 😂 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)
Sometimes the detriment of the thinking isn't recognizing seriously. But in the case of senses we can understand the difficulty of escaping from the negativity. For example, I am living near the chemical factory or rubbish dump and I smell a stench. Or I hear always blasphemous words around of me. The same we can say about seeing, tasting and touching. Is it possible in such circumstances keeps our focus on "I" but not on aggressive and negative experience? I think it is impossible.
If ive been deceived by someone because my thoughts led me to discovering they lied to me...wirh that "thought" disappears another piece of the trusting "me" though so......🤷♀️ My innocence is disappearing.
👽🙏😆666. I am that which is permanent and that which is temporary and moving. Though I am neither absolutely. That which witnesses the permanent and the temporary though itself is uncaused and unseen. ✝--->That I Am
I totally sympathize with this woman, and I sense that the people who were laughing also understand. I used to be besieged by thoughts... constant, unwelcome, tiresome, pathological thoughts... The awful narrator that just won't shut up. You don't have to live this way! What it took for me was a sustained meditation practice and a concerted effort outside meditation to maintain awareness of the thoughts, to not identify with them, and to focus on the quiet spaces between the thoughts. It's important not to judge them or reject them, just let them be and don't follow them. I remember the first time I went for a walk and my mind was quiet... really quiet, and all experience became more vivid. It was like walking out of prison... What incredible joy! I'm so much happier now that I can turn my thoughts off (or down, at least). Highly recommended ;-)
Not even the need to turn off the thoughts i would say. But to just let them be by realizing... 👀👻
And YES... the laughter of the others shows that they are also familiar with this sort of divine game of hide and seek, getting lost and finding your SELF again... and again... 😍
How innocent, in the ignorance of what "we really are", so many of us are trapped!! Trapped, by believing in the bloody commentator☹ . How I sympathise with this lady. May we pierce through this veil 🙏 . Thank you Rupert and thank you to everyone ❤
I am trying.
@@narayanaswamysivaraman3584 stop trying and just BE
Thank you
I love Rupert and I respect his approach to teaching non duality but sometimes it seems like he’s so unwilling to meet people where they are and he ends up talking in circles. Yes, we are all pure being. We are all pure awareness. Intellectually knowing this is one thing but being able to embody that and make that our moment to moment experience can be challenging and it’s clear this woman was simply saying she finds it challenging to feel the freedom of her being because she feels as if her being is always clouded by thoughts. I am sure we can all certainly relate to that regardless of how well we know the truth of our being or not.
It's because he doesn't want to lead but push from behind.
Yes, I often feel I want to jump in for Rupert.
She may need the progressive path instead. Mantra meditation
Well said. It's clear he's trying to help but sometimes it doesn't work. Many/most people need to practice in some way just to relax enough to even notice the "screen" to which he so eloquently refers.
Almost all people desire is sense of permanent euphoria and that's where money making comes in. All techniques are there detach yourself from thoughts, but what if thoughts can be used to write a book or maybe a journal that nobody ever reads? Thoughts are energy and it is a rule of science that energy just cannot be quenched, it has to be transformed.
Most teachers fail to tell people that it is one's own mission to find ways to transform the thought energy into something. All they teach is ignore thoughts or keep watching them as they come and go. The struggle will go on till people mature their minds enough to recognise that thoughts can be converted into benign forms like playing music, art or just writing a short story WITHOUT worrying about the audience. Just do it for the sake of energy transformation or thoughts can make one insane after a point.
I am the screen, thoughts appear on the screen, no thoughts can affect it. Rupert explaines this so well. Thank You.
Beyond clear 👌
Brilliant🙏🏼. In all the years I have committed to non duality, many of those in the presence of an enlightened master, the explanation in this Satsang is the simplest, most profound, pragmatic, and useable teaching one could ever ask for.
Rupert’s questions left the students ego, nowhere to run or hide! Very funny Satsang to🤣
Love Rupert's laughing, always relaxes me!! 😆 Everything is a cosmic joke, we need to realise that & start laughing!! Eventually Everything is good & Everything is Valid!!! Spirituality or Not, you are exactly where you supposed to Be!!! So Just BE!!! ❤️🙏✨😊
Be aware of awareness itself. After 30+ years, this ended seeking and opened the door to liberation. Thoughts no longer dominate this life. You do this both in meditation and in every waking moment as well. Be persistent and it “Will” happen. It’s the only thing Rupert really needs to teach. All else is just business.
Bingo!
Interesting, out of interest what is the feeling of this liberation?
@ With little to no thought, the tension associated with thought disappears. If you have ever managed to rest in no thought for any period of time, you know what this feels like. Imagine that 24/7. Remember, that alone is not liberation. Liberation is a complete non judgmental witness of reality in this no thought state. Pre-death. Total liberation, post death of which you do not experience as the conscience you. That is it in a nutshell. There is no further experience which is what seekers do not want to hear. There is this no thought stillness, felt all the time, with a realization that this is it, no more desire or chasing the thrills of life. It all just flows and you flow along with it. There is no other way to describe it. In fact, this is too much already. Just place awareness on awareness itself for as long and often as you can. This “will” happen.
@@AKA_SIMPLYHUMANthanks for the response, fascinating to read your experience of this. When you say “there is no desire, or chasing the thrills of life” what does that mean exactly, do you not have cravings say for simple things like a can of coke on a hot day or something small like that?
Or is there no desire because thought has ceased entirely? Although, I imagine it doesn’t cease entirely, more like thoughts just come and go. Also, in your experience was there a gradual progression towards “realisation”?
Thanks! 🙏❤...this lady can also try listening to Eckhart Tolle...he has some beautiful tips on how to remain without thinking...inner body awareness is very helpful in keeping thinking at bay...sometimes a change of pointers really help.
Rupert is the best out there. Thank you so much 🙏. .
Actually, he didn't handle that very well!
Oh yes isn’t he wonderful!
“Less thinking is not my speciality: i love thinking.” You are alreadyy free from it, by simply being.
Thank you Rupert for making my life comfortable ❤❤❤
there is everything in this. the whole human dance with being, as being. Until recently I think I would have found it uncomfortable perhaps even triggering. But having recognised what he points to it is quite beautiful. What fascinates me is how what would have felt violent to me at some stage now feels so full of compassion. It is very curious. But it makes me smile.
Almost all people desire is sense of permanent euphoria and that's where money making comes in. All techniques are there detach yourself from thoughts, but what if thoughts can be used to write a book or maybe a journal that nobody ever reads? Thoughts are energy and it is a rule of science that energy just cannot be quenched, it has to be transformed.
Most teachers fail to tell people that it is one's own mission to find ways to transform the thought energy into something. All they teach is ignore thoughts or keep watching them as they come and go. The struggle will go on till people mature their minds enough to recognise that thoughts can be converted into benign forms like playing music, art or just writing a short story WITHOUT worrying about the audience. Just do it for the sake of energy transformation or thoughts can make one insane after a point.
Amazing Rupert ❤. Immense gratitude and love for this incredible pointing 🙏❤
Outstanding introspective knowledge
Love you Rupert. Keep truckin'. 😊💗
Absolutely lovable interchange. And my thinking loved it too. Her description is perfect of that commentator. Your, Rupert, declaration of loving to think sooooo helped me reconcile with my frequently pesky commentator on the edge of the screen. Moreover some dam just washed away wrt to the intellect vs brain/neurons HQ vs practical tool with and without the ego form present.
Thank you. Thank you. 😂
❤❤❤
Clouded by thinking 💭
Overwhelmed by moodiness
Detach from ‘drama’ 🎭
Nice!
شكرا روبيرت دائما رائع
I felt like she was miss understood and mocked. Not knowing is the journey. It also brings to mind that people often take Rupert’s words as gospel and this only splinters his teachings. Being is being but how we relate to it is only known by I.
Beautiful ❤
What manner of magnificently good fortune, good karma, endless countless benevolent magnanimous generosity has one performed to suddenly find one’s self fortunate enough to be here enabled to comprehend this brilliant eloquent, elegant, compassionate Shakespearean Buddha Houdini, lovingly disentangle and reveal the Self in front of a patient, loving, admiring, entertained, confident audience?
Something that could not be accomplished in years upon years of endless study.
You have, my dear friend, entered the hallowed halls of the Rupert Spira Spiritual Finishing School for those ready enough to put an end to learning.
Thanks for sharing, knowing, feelings, thoughts,emotions being❤
Breathing in & out is also a sign that you are
When your thoughts come say " I don't know and I don't care " that should quiet your thoughts for a short time and then repeat above statement.
❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏Thank you.
❤️❤️😂😂 so beautiful, so clear
I recomend you ,my friend,to read The power of now.E.Tolle
She may like his colleague Francis and realize that the thinking has lots of resistance mixed in. Letting go of resistance and effort makes the thinking not much of a problem. You have to notice the resistance and effort in the body so that it's possible to feel the muscle tension in the psycho-physical space and now the tension is conscious so the mind can relax. Usually the tension is throughout the body, but especially around the head and neck.
Affect comes before cognition. Ask how am I feeling right now is a good place for self enquiery and this can resolve a lot of the unnecessary thinking that's problamatic. The screen has the ability to focus its attention on itself in many levels yet it is always the screen.
Why he is trying to correct her , what she is expressing is so genuine and sincere. The woman should go to Ekhart Tolle to get her answer
That was so precious. Her earnest, beseeching of help, of relief from thought; his guidance, examples, gentle laughter and encouragement, slow down my own thoughts! I find thinking tiresome, especially when it gets so out of control, going in circles, fueling worry, regrets, anxiety. Precious are the moments when thoughts cease, and the ocean calms. Meditation, abiding in silence, attentive to silence in the background of activity, spending time around realized souls, spending time in nature, listening to Rupert and other spiritual offerings, give rest to the weary mind. So thankful for these expanding moments of peace. I don’t know how things were for the questioner when she went back to her seat. But, it is very possible that she sat down and fell into a deep, silent, restful place free of thoughts!🩵☮️😌🥲
The mind is neutral. It is the undercurrents in the ocean that can give rise to the weather. The weather affects one's temperament. One's temperament affects one's thoughts and thinking. Music is like a summer breeze it is the best medicine.
I would love to see Rupert Spira on psychedelics. That would be a powerful speach afterwards. Might begin to talk like Terence McKenna. "The mushroom said to me once, that you're awareness alone".
I'm fairly certain that you're joking (and it is funny), nut mushrooms - or any substances - and their attending psychedelic experiences are entirely conceivable and perceivable, meaning their nature is duality.
The nature of Nonduality is stillness and silence _ only; all else is duality.
Who is the entity being bothered by thoughts? How can "you" leave thoughts alone, when there is no "you"?
Your thoughts aren't you. Just like your hunger to eat, isn't you. If you simply step back, you will notice that your hunger is automatic and is a part of your body and mind acting in unison for a desired outcome. And in this case, to eat. You have a choice to make then. You can simply observe the hunger, this feeling, and appreciate it. Notice its role. Or you can fear it, thinking if you do not fulfill this desire, something bad may happen. One will lead to understanding, the other will lead to loss of self-control or misdirection. Work to be with your thoughts, like you would be with a child. Patient and understanding. Do not push them away. Pandoras box was formed by attempting to capture chaos and control it. The solution was always to allow chaos to flow naturally but use order to understand it and create from it.
I listened to this lady's question and realised that now I have lost the commentator in me.
Ramana Mararashi clearly said in the analogy of the rope and and snake you either see the snake (person/world) or the rope (being/god). There is no seeing of both simultaneously Which contradicts a lot of teachers who suggest you see the world as a person and retain the understanding that you are (often expressed as in the background) the being.
Ramana clearly says no this is not true.
In this context, I = BEING
I have been down that road...
Best results for me was:
Do not judge a though as good or bad (every thoughts are neutral until we judge / we give them meaning).
Just observe them like leaves flowing down a river. Remain neutral and don't judge anything = this can feel so blissful.
All the best,
Lee
PS
Soon as we or the ego judges a thought as negative, it amplifies it more and more (normally until we re okay with it not being okay, paradoxically).
🙏🏼♊️🙏🏼
I see
Incorrect. Just because *you* do not acknowledge something doesn't mean it isn't there. You either take action to combat issues (of any type: physical, mental, emotional, psychological, spiritual, etc.), or else... they shall flourish upon their own recognizance. No exceptions. And simply "not thinking about things" is not only a terrible idea, it's probably the WORST one of all. 😂
🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
--Diamond Dragons (series)
❤
Sometimes the detriment of the thinking isn't recognizing seriously. But in the case of senses we can understand the difficulty of escaping from the negativity. For example, I am living near the chemical factory or rubbish dump and I smell a stench. Or I hear always blasphemous words around of me. The same we can say about seeing, tasting and touching. Is it possible in such circumstances keeps our focus on "I" but not on aggressive and negative experience? I think it is impossible.
💚
"Don't go into theory. Let me go into theory."
🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Is this the same with emotions ?
You dont really have to do anything .the screen is always there
She got even more confused
Maybe this lady means by me/I the separate self?
I think she's complaining about how to stop ruminating... not thinking, but in either case people seem to have a problem with being human
Bald man in the front row looks like Papaji attending Rupert's satsangs
If ive been deceived by someone because my thoughts led me to discovering they lied to me...wirh that "thought" disappears another piece of the trusting "me" though so......🤷♀️
My innocence is disappearing.
She should just look into Raja Yoga and Pranayama if she wants no thought
She is basically addicted to the story. Your being has no story and needs no story. Let the world play out, just be .
Do these people have already free from their financial and relationship problems? Why they always ask questions with no substance?
If you want to say about i , you just keep quite
Mimimimi
👽🙏😆666. I am that which is permanent and that which is temporary and moving. Though I am neither absolutely. That which witnesses the permanent and the temporary though itself is uncaused and unseen. ✝--->That I Am
Lol, you can't witness nothing that's permanent, because it has no form
@@kolarz2128 😆😆🙏🙏Yes ! however there's that which is beyond the formless and i donno haha😆😆👽👽🙏🙏
@@iishakanii there is nothing beyond formless, formless is beyond form :)
سلام قولا من رب حيم
🙏🩷✨️✨️✨️✨️
Honestly, this video should have been much shorter if only she were willing to listen more than wanting to be listened...💅
I can’t stand that slimy sarcastic laugh he’s got!
🙏🤍💛🧡❤️🩷💜💙🩵💚🤎🩶