Kratos yelling at Atreus and realizing he was going too far and lowering his tone with a deep breath just melted my heart🥺 I wish this man was my father, he’s 10x better than mine
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It's fascinating, because deep down he wants to bring up Atreus differently than how he was brought up as a Spartan. Mimir says in Valhalla that his methods may have been a path avoided, where Atreus would walk the same path as his father. The *inflections* in Judge's voice convey Kratos in a way that reflects his internal struggle with his instinct to yell and scold, which is all he has ever known, which conflicts with his efforts to be a father and a mentor. It proves his willingness to "break the cycle". Which is something so many of us struggle with today. Such monumental writing and performances.
There are also people who don't want people to have redemption. I mean there is a video uploaded 13 years ago about Kratos killing people in the old games and many people who are coming from the new ones say "Kratos should never get a chance to redeem." "Kratos doesn't deserve redemption." "People like him should just be killed. Intentionally or on accident, a killer is a killer." No surprise those comments in the video started popping up after Covid lockdown.
@@rw0dyxer012the problem is giving a second chance to people like kratos is a HUGE gamble , we're talking about a man who killed thousand, destroying his own world for a second chance who in the future might killed another thousand or not. U really need a huge faith on people like him cause if it's not than it will be another problem and another death.
Im anxious to share. Personally for myself. When Atreus said “ you don’t believe in any of it.” And kratos responded “and still I follow.” it really hit me hard. taught me that you might not know everything and even if you do, give some ppl a chance and back them up even if you feel indifferent. This is important in personal development . Frfr man 😢
"Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed" "Don't be sorry, be better" I always keep these lines in my mind every day after I finish this game
I've never understood this just because I keep my expectations low or expect the worst that doesn't mean I won't be disappointed it just means I won't be surprised. Like if I expect to fail a test or keep my expectations low for a vacation if the outcome is bad I won't be surprised but I'll still be disappointed.
@@Nero-CaesarI think it’s more so…don’t let your expectations reach too high or know where to cap your expectations of something. Look forward to things, but never let them go too far in your mind or else the disappointment will sting even more if it fails or doesn’t pan out like you hoped it would. Know what needs must happen, then for the things you want will feel sweeter when/if they happen.
"keep your expectations low", it way more of a reminder, it has the same meaning of "there is no plan that works perfectly" meant that your plan will always have a flaw so make always back up plan, MORE THAN ONE of course 😊
Kratos would not give therapy. He would take you straight into whatever environment you were uncomfortable with and make you train until he was satisfied you no longer need therapy.
Whats funny is the original creator of kratos is a man child and calls this Kratos a pussy because he has feelings and is trying to be a good father. And how Kratos is supposed to just kill people and be angry and do what he wants. Dudes an actual edgelord manbaby not being sble ti see how this Kratos is so much more of an Icon than the original. We can actually learn from him and relate to him for once, create human connections because of how human he has become. It also serves as a stepping stone for people to start a dialog with their own fathers and sons and I’ve read plenty a story of how this game brought families closer together from how the people relate to kratos and atreus and created an understanding that bridged a gap that had long been there. Its beautifully written and acted and I think is the superior Kratos. Both from herr and ragnarok you learn so much.
Me: I keep getting bullied at school. Kratos: Then stand your guard Me: But they’re stronger than me. Kratos: Then press O when it appears on their head
@@KEN117MCThe Greek Trilogy (including the PSP sides and Ascension) is also relatable. What will you do if you lost those you hold dear? It's easier to say you'll move on but mourning takes time and energy. Kratos mourned negatively by diverting his anger towards the world, to the gods, to innocents. Mankind had done no different as each of us dealt with loss and disappointments differently. The problem is that people easily misunderstood the Greek trilogy because they never experienced that era first. Kratos was the negative extreme of grief and depression. He denied accountability by blaming the gods, never accepting his actions or hold accountable for his thirst, greed and lust. He's easily fueled by anger (Rage mode) and went irrational first, a youth's foolishness before age of wisdom. He bargained with the gods to take away his nightmares and forgive his sins, yet he never forgave himself until Pandora, and he blames himself for the case of Deimos as well as blaming the gods. He was so depressed that things aren't going his way, he was blind to the whole manipulation of the gods, titans, Athena's greed and didn't even noticed the negativity of the Pandora's Box. He only reached acceptance by the end of the Greek trilogy... Or rather, during Valhalla where he confronted his old self. And also, Kratos is a product of environmental issues. He was raised and indoctrinated in Spartan philosophy (militaristic) while those who played the Norse era are blind to the actual hazing of warmongers and cruel politics of the Spartan ideology (which is also happening in countries such as Russia). Kratos believed in "might makes right" Machiavellism because he's been shown that without strength, he had no steer to his destiny of a better life for him and his family. Kratos is a tragic character, which made him wiser in the Norse trilogy. I'm sorry for the rant, not sorry to the truth of the matter, Kratos is not some edgelord's fantasy but a complex man dealing grief in extreme manner, especially upon learning that the cause of his tragedy are external more than internal. Cory Barlog made it intentional to have Kratos of the Greek era to be the monster that knows nothing but death and destruction. His intention was not to make Kratos likeable, but to show what happens if grief, emotionality, and anger are ramped up to 11 (or in Kratos's case, 999999 times). Barlog hates the modern Norse Kratos, probably because Kratos is not a hugable teletubby, but a complex man dealing with grief and healing from his past sins and errors while keeping his monstrosity in check in case something happens again (such as, I dunno Baldr, Thor, Odin or all of Asgard hunting him down again). The pagan gods fear this monster to keep them humble and not repeat Olympus tragedy. Anyways, I'm done. I still prefer Greek era Kratos but I bear no hate to the Norse era. Why? Because, truth in the matter, we're often a product of nurture/environment to a point that it becomes our nature. If the apple is rotten, the tree is to blame. By upbringing, Kratos became a monster because of Sparta & Olympus. Only when he fled after the destruction did Kratos grew and peeled his rotten past.
That's exactly why I keep telling every younger person to me to play this game as soon as they hit the age of 18. This game is a journey, and has taught me a lot!
i like how the god killer Kratos has become a better person for his son and only family, Do not be sorry be better is probably the best advice ever from this show,God I love this game
In the past, he wasn't the kind of guy who would forgive the gods and move on, was he? Plus, who can blame him? Who would find the strength within to move on after what he experienced? As a demigod warrior, he dealt with it the way he was trained to deal with situations. If he was a philosopher or a carpenter, I believe it would have been a bit different. 😅
Kratos was cold for most of his life after the death of his wife and daughter prior to the original trilogy. Before that, he was slightly more light hearted due to his daughter. But because of Zeus, ares and rest of Olympic gods, he became a cold blooded monster. After meeting laufey and having Atreus, he realized he didn’t have to be that monster anymore. Hence that interaction with Athena “I am your monster no longer”. Kratos showcases what it means to be a man, not through feats of action but through words and wisdom.
I like how in Ragnarok, when Kratos says sorry to Atreus, Atreus says, "Don't be sorry. Be better," you could see a visible smirk on Kratos after the fact.
If someone had told me 10 years ago i would be taking life lessons from Kratos one day i wouldve laughted in their face, now the new GoW are basically the most relatable games in my recent memory
Don't forget, in the Greek games (I forgot which one specifically [Nevermind, thanks to the replies that told me it's Chains of Olympus]) you learn that pushing away those you love most, even to protect them, takes more strength than what is needed to take down even the mightiest of foes.
I think it's more on dealing with Naivete than to fully remove empathy. As he said, they do not feel your suffering... The cannibals had no qualms to satiate their hunger, even if their victims are a family of father and son. But to the Ragnarok, innocents die because of Odin's madness... They didn't really want Odin dead, but the Allfather was in the way of their peace/prosperity as well as letting innocents pay for his madness and curiosity. I think we ought to learn to measure the weight of it before letting our hearts decide. Pity their suffering but not be swayed by their anguish, lest you be fooled and toyed by liars. Think Hantengu from Demon Slayer for example. A Demon that is toying with people's empathy. Tanjiro is open heart to those suffering, but not enough to spare them from the death they deserve. He still killed the demons to stop them of their evil.
The water one is actually genuinely good advice. In floods, in dark places, do not go freely into water. You really don't know what is in it, or how deep it is.
the famous quote "dont be sorry be better" is beautiful but my fav quote will always be "we will fight it because you are frightened". face your fears. dont run away from them. it is tough but you will grow.
1.- It’s funny how Kratos often encourages Atreus to think and plan ahead when they’re travelling together, but when Atreus is with Thor, Thor keeps telling him to stop thinking and just rely on the first instinct you have, because that’s what Odin taught him in order to keep him from thinking for himself and standing up to him. 2.- One quote from Mimir in Raganrok sticks in my mind- ‘Even the brightest of us carry darkness inside, brother.’
My dad died of cancer when i was only 10 and now that im 31, on top of also playing Gow from the greek to norse arc. I really liked the norse arc. Made me kinda tear up at times but overall a very good game.
My favorite one is 25. Keep your expectations low, and you will never be disappointed. It takes a special kind of foresight to practice in real life. Now that I use this tip in my daily life, I can see how effective it is. I actually don't expect much of anything anymore since I'm good at predicting certain outcomes now.
35:46 absolutely love how he reminisce about atreus, how he is excited and then sad talking about him, and the respect he has to remember him as someone "happy" and calling his son after him, in the hopes that he aswell be happy
Something i mad respect ab kratos in both of the new god of wars is how he NEVER hesistates to protect atreus even if it means throwing his own body in harms way. Just another example of how kratos while not a perfect father hes a still a damn phenomenal one🔥🔥
Thank you for the awesome edit! There was one of my favorite that you missed when the dark elves killing the harmless light elves where the conversation goes between the father and son like this: "They weren't even fighting back!" "It was their choice, we make ours"
Thank you! 😃 Indeed, I chose to leave that part for the video about the war between the elves that I intend to make separately. But I totally could have included this part here, too. Anyways, thank you for bringing it up.
What a great edit well done and I loved how you described each lesson in the video sections. I have to say I really grew as a person playing this masterpiece saga, so many times were valuable lessons expressed through this art. Just resonates with everyone in their own way with the diverse themes of family, redemption, hope, stoicism etc. Kratos really would make the Philosophers from his homeland proud (like your channel name and theme by the way)!
What amazing feedback! Thank you! I'm glad you liked the video and the channel. I really appreciate it. 😊 🙏🏻 I'm still new to this. It's a one-person job. It takes some time to play, select parts, record, edit, and add subtitles... it's a long process. I hope I'm strong enough to keep bringing up valuable moments like this from other games as well. I believe this could inspire developers to keep up the good writing. At least, I hope so.
Ive noticed that Kratos apparently meets his foes and matches then surpasses their strength with his will. Makes sense as to why he doesn't just breeze through fighting human combatants in a way he may easily overcome a giant. He's not just fighting with raw power, but battling with willpower. Edit: to further explain, regular humans give up hope and die, Kratos doesn't even need hope. He has determination, that's why he ascended to Godhood in the first place... in my opinion.
Kratos loves his son dearly. When he saw humans trying to eat them kratos said "this fight is mine alone" Kratos didn't want Atreus to feel the guilt of killing a human being who has their reasons behind what they do *to survive*
Some people don't learn easily to keep their expectations low. As humans, as long as there's a desire to get something, there's potential for great expectations, don't you agree?
I played this game years ago and still do, for me personally when i was struggling with self worth inner self esteem and overall expectations from the world surrounding me this game brought the light in me and guided me through my journey of guilt and anger i cannot thank enough what this game has brought back to me, “ close your heart to their suffering do not feel for them they will not feel for you” has stuck with me in everyday life god knows how many mistakes have been fixed how many hearts have been left in the dark how many egos have been hurt .
And people say that Kratos is a bad dad He is a tough dad he understands Atreus has limits like when he tells him not to fight or when he does tell him to fight this is clearly seen when they fight bulder how the first time they mean kratos tells him to hide the second time he tells him to run (I believe) and the final time finally allowing him to fight by his side because he knows the boy can hold his own at this point of the story he also helps with emotional moment like the deer still pushing atraus to finish the job but guiding his hand and giving him that final push
I'm glad you liked it. 😊 My channel is still young, and I have to improve my editing skills a lot, but I'll keep bringing whatever content I find valuable within the games. Your feedback is much appreciated. 🙏🏻
Thank you! 😊 "Greed, a common cause for war" is in Alfheim. They have a few more conversations about the war between the elves there. I intend to make a separate video about war.
@@SocratesPlays okay good to know! I would like to see more philosophy lessons in Video Games. Maybe Assassins Creed as a next project? They had a lot of deep meanings in their games. I stopped with origins though
I love how in the first game, since Atreus is younger kratos tells him to close his heart to others but in ragnarok when he’s come into his own and kratos allows him to feel the emotions of the surrounding midgardians
I really like how Atreus embodied Kratos younger self madness. Quick to temper, rash and out of control. He's really Kratos's son. Kratos becomes mad at Atreus because he sees his younger self in Atreus xD.
13:20 "We win because we are determined, disciplined, not because we feel ourselves superior." My favorite one. So much evil in the world could be avoided if some people didn't feel superior. 😕
Man this game's writing feels so different ragnarok. I know they were going for a more psoitive tone but it just felt so disassociated and story like. This felt like i was right there with them on the jounrey and it felt so real
Perhaps you felt this way about Ragnarök because Atreus was older and making his own decisions, whereas in the first game, Kratos was always by his side? 🤔
For all that think Kratos is a Bad father. I say no he isn't he lost his first Family. Than he lost is Second wife. He is harsh to Atreus so he learns the Truth about life soon enough and so he is strong and wise to survive and live a good life. That Atreus dont do the same mistakes Kratos did. And that is what Parents should do teach their Kids all that they need to live a good live and survive it till their times comes.
Parents can learn a lot from their children, too. It's important to adapt and change course if necessary for their benefit. 👉🏻ua-cam.com/users/shortsAciiTLLuDBk?feature=share Thank you for your comment. ❤️
I can't say i agree with Kratos to feel nothing when you kill someone As Jesus Christ said we should even love our enemies and we should show mercy Of course killing is necessary sometimes .There is a lot of evil out there But we shouldn't feel nothing even if they dont feel nothing for us Its this kind of teaching to feel nothing for others that makes humanity so brutal
You make a fair point. I suppose we can consider Kratos's advice in the context of their environment and the dangers they still had to face. Depending on the circumstances, that might have been the only option. However, I agree with you that there are gaps in the advice he gave Atreus, which Kratos realizes in God of War Ragnarok when he tells Atreus he was wrong. Please refer to this short I made: ua-cam.com/users/shortsAciiTLLuDBk?feature=share
This game is a beautiful representation of masculinity. Mastering your emotions in your element of survival. A positive representation of Fatherhood. Boys are made into Men under the guidance of those who have mastered manhood, by experience. Atreus would have been lost to his emotions without his Fathers experience to Guide him...
"Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed" As a hardcore Gacha Games player, i'm always keep this line deep into my mind everytime i spend my gacha currency to do pulling in some banners. Because i understand, *the more hope you put into it, the more hard you will get it to your possesions*
It's the greatest version of kratos people think this version of kratos is weak but it's opposite he can completely control his rage that's the biggest strength
I hope you can find more wisdom elsewhere. Fortunately, the internet serves us well in that regard. I'm glad my video reached you. 😊 Thank you for your comment. 🙏🏻
SPOILER The phrases “Close your heart to it” are very powerful if listened to after the end of GOW Ragnarok, where Kratos asks Atreus to open his heart.
The most important thing that I've kearned is to not judge the others (because I use to judge Atreus a lot) but to put myself in his place and learn with his journey. I'm so sad that they destroyed this beatiful game over the years.
Kratos yelling at Atreus and realizing he was going too far and lowering his tone with a deep breath just melted my heart🥺
I wish this man was my father, he’s 10x better than mine
That's why art is so important. It fills some gaps in our knowledge of the world; it shows us positive experiences so we can pursue them, and it allows us to learn about negative ones without having to actually experience them.
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I mean I could only wish I had a father growing up.
It's fascinating, because deep down he wants to bring up Atreus differently than how he was brought up as a Spartan.
Mimir says in Valhalla that his methods may have been a path avoided, where Atreus would walk the same path as his father. The *inflections* in Judge's voice convey Kratos in a way that reflects his internal struggle with his instinct to yell and scold, which is all he has ever known, which conflicts with his efforts to be a father and a mentor.
It proves his willingness to "break the cycle". Which is something so many of us struggle with today.
Such monumental writing and performances.
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Kratos is my dad
"Do not be sorry. ..Be *better* " is such a powerful line. You can be sorry, but if you don't improve it means nothing.
Can you improve if you aren't sorry in the first place?
@@productivestruggle9489depends on the situation. But also consider there is no end to self improvement. .
There are also people who don't want people to have redemption. I mean there is a video uploaded 13 years ago about Kratos killing people in the old games and many people who are coming from the new ones say "Kratos should never get a chance to redeem." "Kratos doesn't deserve redemption." "People like him should just be killed. Intentionally or on accident, a killer is a killer."
No surprise those comments in the video started popping up after Covid lockdown.
@@rw0dyxer012the problem is giving a second chance to people like kratos is a HUGE gamble , we're talking about a man who killed thousand, destroying his own world for a second chance who in the future might killed another thousand or not.
U really need a huge faith on people like him cause if it's not than it will be another problem and another death.
@productivestruggle9489 Yes, because actions mean a lot more than words. Even if I wasn't sorry, my actions can show that I've improved.
“Games don’t teach you anything!”
God of War:
For real
1. "To Be Father"
2. "To Be Warrior"
3. "To Be Wise"
4. "To Be Better Person"
Im anxious to share. Personally for myself. When Atreus said “ you don’t believe in any of it.” And kratos responded “and still I follow.” it really hit me hard. taught me that you might not know everything and even if you do, give some ppl a chance and back them up even if you feel indifferent. This is important in personal development . Frfr man 😢
"Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed"
"Don't be sorry, be better"
I always keep these lines in my mind every day after I finish this game
I've never understood this just because I keep my expectations low or expect the worst that doesn't mean I won't be disappointed it just means I won't be surprised. Like if I expect to fail a test or keep my expectations low for a vacation if the outcome is bad I won't be surprised but I'll still be disappointed.
@@Nero-CaesarI think it’s more so…don’t let your expectations reach too high or know where to cap your expectations of something. Look forward to things, but never let them go too far in your mind or else the disappointment will sting even more if it fails or doesn’t pan out like you hoped it would. Know what needs must happen, then for the things you want will feel sweeter when/if they happen.
@@oddfreaks6452 fair enough
Keep your expectations low, so your disappointment won't hit you as hard
"keep your expectations low", it way more of a reminder, it has the same meaning of "there is no plan that works perfectly" meant that your plan will always have a flaw so make always back up plan, MORE THAN ONE of course 😊
The world would be a much better place if kratos was a therapist, its crazy how his quotes can relate to our lives
Kratos would not give therapy. He would take you straight into whatever environment you were uncomfortable with and make you train until he was satisfied you no longer need therapy.
Whats funny is the original creator of kratos is a man child and calls this Kratos a pussy because he has feelings and is trying to be a good father. And how Kratos is supposed to just kill people and be angry and do what he wants. Dudes an actual edgelord manbaby not being sble ti see how this Kratos is so much more of an Icon than the original. We can actually learn from him and relate to him for once, create human connections because of how human he has become. It also serves as a stepping stone for people to start a dialog with their own fathers and sons and I’ve read plenty a story of how this game brought families closer together from how the people relate to kratos and atreus and created an understanding that bridged a gap that had long been there. Its beautifully written and acted and I think is the superior Kratos. Both from herr and ragnarok you learn so much.
Me: I keep getting bullied at school.
Kratos: Then stand your guard
Me: But they’re stronger than me.
Kratos: Then press O when it appears on their head
@@KEN117MCThe Greek Trilogy (including the PSP sides and Ascension) is also relatable. What will you do if you lost those you hold dear? It's easier to say you'll move on but mourning takes time and energy. Kratos mourned negatively by diverting his anger towards the world, to the gods, to innocents. Mankind had done no different as each of us dealt with loss and disappointments differently.
The problem is that people easily misunderstood the Greek trilogy because they never experienced that era first.
Kratos was the negative extreme of grief and depression.
He denied accountability by blaming the gods, never accepting his actions or hold accountable for his thirst, greed and lust. He's easily fueled by anger (Rage mode) and went irrational first, a youth's foolishness before age of wisdom. He bargained with the gods to take away his nightmares and forgive his sins, yet he never forgave himself until Pandora, and he blames himself for the case of Deimos as well as blaming the gods. He was so depressed that things aren't going his way, he was blind to the whole manipulation of the gods, titans, Athena's greed and didn't even noticed the negativity of the Pandora's Box.
He only reached acceptance by the end of the Greek trilogy... Or rather, during Valhalla where he confronted his old self.
And also, Kratos is a product of environmental issues. He was raised and indoctrinated in Spartan philosophy (militaristic) while those who played the Norse era are blind to the actual hazing of warmongers and cruel politics of the Spartan ideology (which is also happening in countries such as Russia). Kratos believed in "might makes right" Machiavellism because he's been shown that without strength, he had no steer to his destiny of a better life for him and his family. Kratos is a tragic character, which made him wiser in the Norse trilogy.
I'm sorry for the rant, not sorry to the truth of the matter, Kratos is not some edgelord's fantasy but a complex man dealing grief in extreme manner, especially upon learning that the cause of his tragedy are external more than internal. Cory Barlog made it intentional to have Kratos of the Greek era to be the monster that knows nothing but death and destruction. His intention was not to make Kratos likeable, but to show what happens if grief, emotionality, and anger are ramped up to 11 (or in Kratos's case, 999999 times). Barlog hates the modern Norse Kratos, probably because Kratos is not a hugable teletubby, but a complex man dealing with grief and healing from his past sins and errors while keeping his monstrosity in check in case something happens again (such as, I dunno Baldr, Thor, Odin or all of Asgard hunting him down again). The pagan gods fear this monster to keep them humble and not repeat Olympus tragedy.
Anyways, I'm done. I still prefer Greek era Kratos but I bear no hate to the Norse era. Why? Because, truth in the matter, we're often a product of nurture/environment to a point that it becomes our nature. If the apple is rotten, the tree is to blame. By upbringing, Kratos became a monster because of Sparta & Olympus. Only when he fled after the destruction did Kratos grew and peeled his rotten past.
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That's exactly why I keep telling every younger person to me to play this game as soon as they hit the age of 18.
This game is a journey, and has taught me a lot!
i like how the god killer Kratos has become a better person for his son and only family, Do not be sorry be better is probably the best advice ever from this show,God I love this game
In the past, he wasn't the kind of guy who would forgive the gods and move on, was he? Plus, who can blame him? Who would find the strength within to move on after what he experienced? As a demigod warrior, he dealt with it the way he was trained to deal with situations. If he was a philosopher or a carpenter, I believe it would have been a bit different. 😅
Kratos was cold for most of his life after the death of his wife and daughter prior to the original trilogy. Before that, he was slightly more light hearted due to his daughter. But because of Zeus, ares and rest of Olympic gods, he became a cold blooded monster. After meeting laufey and having Atreus, he realized he didn’t have to be that monster anymore. Hence that interaction with Athena “I am your monster no longer”. Kratos showcases what it means to be a man, not through feats of action but through words and wisdom.
I like how in Ragnarok, when Kratos says sorry to Atreus, Atreus says, "Don't be sorry. Be better," you could see a visible smirk on Kratos after the fact.
If someone had told me 10 years ago i would be taking life lessons from Kratos one day i wouldve laughted in their face, now the new GoW are basically the most relatable games in my recent memory
Same here man. I'd have laughed about it too
Don't forget, in the Greek games (I forgot which one specifically [Nevermind, thanks to the replies that told me it's Chains of Olympus]) you learn that pushing away those you love most, even to protect them, takes more strength than what is needed to take down even the mightiest of foes.
Indeed, it is God of War: Chains of Olympus. I made a short of that moment.
@@SocratesPlaysit took Kratos at least as much strength to push back his little girl as to kill a Minotaur
@player_lv430 here: ua-cam.com/users/shortswmgCusvAsno?feature=share
Chains of Olympus was such a top tier game
Chains of Olympus that is. Abandoning calliope to save her
“ Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed “ Still rings in my ears.
kratos actually change his words, from "close your heart to it" to "open your heart to it", he said it to older atreus in ragnarok
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I think it's more on dealing with Naivete than to fully remove empathy. As he said, they do not feel your suffering... The cannibals had no qualms to satiate their hunger, even if their victims are a family of father and son.
But to the Ragnarok, innocents die because of Odin's madness... They didn't really want Odin dead, but the Allfather was in the way of their peace/prosperity as well as letting innocents pay for his madness and curiosity.
I think we ought to learn to measure the weight of it before letting our hearts decide. Pity their suffering but not be swayed by their anguish, lest you be fooled and toyed by liars.
Think Hantengu from Demon Slayer for example. A Demon that is toying with people's empathy.
Tanjiro is open heart to those suffering, but not enough to spare them from the death they deserve. He still killed the demons to stop them of their evil.
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So the best of both teachings would be "Filter your heart to it. Close it or open it when needed"
The water one is actually genuinely good advice.
In floods, in dark places, do not go freely into water. You really don't know what is in it, or how deep it is.
Indeed. I also take it as a metaphor indicating that sometimes stepping into the unknown can be very dangerous.
the famous quote "dont be sorry be better" is beautiful but my fav quote will always be "we will fight it because you are frightened". face your fears. dont run away from them. it is tough but you will grow.
1.- It’s funny how Kratos often encourages Atreus to think and plan ahead when they’re travelling together, but when Atreus is with Thor, Thor keeps telling him to stop thinking and just rely on the first instinct you have, because that’s what Odin taught him in order to keep him from thinking for himself and standing up to him.
2.- One quote from Mimir in Raganrok sticks in my mind- ‘Even the brightest of us carry darkness inside, brother.’
Well-observed.
Thank you!
My dad died of cancer when i was only 10 and now that im 31, on top of also playing Gow from the greek to norse arc. I really liked the norse arc.
Made me kinda tear up at times but overall a very good game.
"Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed" is my favorite line in the game as I always apply it in real life
"Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed" now the God of Hope 🤣
That lightbulb moment at 35. Can you guess the plan never fails to make me chuckle no matter where I hear it.
My favorite one is 25. Keep your expectations low, and you will never be disappointed. It takes a special kind of foresight to practice in real life. Now that I use this tip in my daily life, I can see how effective it is. I actually don't expect much of anything anymore since I'm good at predicting certain outcomes now.
The 'Do not be sorry, be better' always flies in my head every now and then.
35:46 absolutely love how he reminisce about atreus, how he is excited and then sad talking about him, and the respect he has to remember him as someone "happy" and calling his son after him, in the hopes that he aswell be happy
Atreus: “You are naïve foolish boy.”
Kratos: this is true as well.
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13:44 kratos' entire life flashed before his eyes.
"Yes, you're right." 😄
Pain we endure,faulty weaponry we do not
Keeping my expectations lower has been in my head for years now and I am so glad for grandpa Kratos because it actually helped me SO MUCH
My favorite part about #2 is the implicit: "I told you to FIND it. You don't need your bow to find it."
The quality of the writing in these games never ceases to amaze me.
Something i mad respect ab kratos in both of the new god of wars is how he NEVER hesistates to protect atreus even if it means throwing his own body in harms way. Just another example of how kratos while not a perfect father hes a still a damn phenomenal one🔥🔥
18:04 Kratos : We will fight it.. Because you are frightened of it..
Me : Change difficulty to GMGOW💀
What does this word even mean?
It means "Give me God of War" difficulty, I suppose.
Psicología inversa.
@@pazeros6424Give me God of War - the hardest difficulty of God of War 4 and God of War Ragnarok
We learned a lot from him
Thank you for the awesome edit! There was one of my favorite that you missed when the dark elves killing the harmless light elves where the conversation goes between the father and son like this:
"They weren't even fighting back!"
"It was their choice, we make ours"
Thank you! 😃
Indeed, I chose to leave that part for the video about the war between the elves that I intend to make separately. But I totally could have included this part here, too.
Anyways, thank you for bringing it up.
I still remember and use some of these each day. Chad Kratos
No parent do tough love like Kratos can
What a great edit well done and I loved how you described each lesson in the video sections. I have to say I really grew as a person playing this masterpiece saga, so many times were valuable lessons expressed through this art. Just resonates with everyone in their own way with the diverse themes of family, redemption, hope, stoicism etc. Kratos really would make the Philosophers from his homeland proud (like your channel name and theme by the way)!
What amazing feedback! Thank you!
I'm glad you liked the video and the channel. I really appreciate it.
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I'm still new to this. It's a one-person job. It takes some time to play, select parts, record, edit, and add subtitles... it's a long process. I hope I'm strong enough to keep bringing up valuable moments like this from other games as well. I believe this could inspire developers to keep up the good writing. At least, I hope so.
And the father of the year goes to....
Kratos 🏆
Ive noticed that Kratos apparently meets his foes and matches then surpasses their strength with his will. Makes sense as to why he doesn't just breeze through fighting human combatants in a way he may easily overcome a giant. He's not just fighting with raw power, but battling with willpower.
Edit: to further explain, regular humans give up hope and die, Kratos doesn't even need hope. He has determination, that's why he ascended to Godhood in the first place... in my opinion.
We'd love a part 2 regarding lessons found in Ragnarok!
Kratos loves his son dearly. When he saw humans trying to eat them kratos said "this fight is mine alone"
Kratos didn't want Atreus to feel the guilt of killing a human being who has their reasons behind what they do *to survive*
Parents:- Stop playing videogames, do homework games don't teach you anything
God of war:- hold my lemnian wine
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"Keep your expectations low" if you learned that from Kratos you porbably never had any dissapointments in your life before
Some people don't learn easily to keep their expectations low. As humans, as long as there's a desire to get something, there's potential for great expectations, don't you agree?
I played this game years ago and still do, for me personally when i was struggling with self worth inner self esteem and overall expectations from the world surrounding me this game brought the light in me and guided me through my journey of guilt and anger i cannot thank enough what this game has brought back to me, “ close your heart to their suffering do not feel for them they will not feel for you” has stuck with me in everyday life god knows how many mistakes have been fixed how many hearts have been left in the dark how many egos have been hurt .
And people say that Kratos is a bad dad
He is a tough dad he understands Atreus has limits like when he tells him not to fight or when he does tell him to fight this is clearly seen when they fight bulder how the first time they mean kratos tells him to hide the second time he tells him to run (I believe) and the final time finally allowing him to fight by his side because he knows the boy can hold his own at this point of the story he also helps with emotional moment like the deer still pushing atraus to finish the job but guiding his hand and giving him that final push
What a great observation.
Thank you for this. 😊
Awesome video, can you make one for God of War Ragnarok? i think there are more to learn from kratos, atreus, and other characters.
Yes please
Use me as a yes please button
Thank you very much! 😃
Yes, I will be posting a long one about Ragnarok soon. I've made some shorts about it already. 🙂
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This game is one of the best games I've ever played. i just finished its sequel recently, and it is also pretty awesome, love them both!
Thank you for this compilation....will return to this whenever i feel like it ❤
I'm glad you liked it. 😊
My channel is still young, and I have to improve my editing skills a lot, but I'll keep bringing whatever content I find valuable within the games.
Your feedback is much appreciated. 🙏🏻
One of the best video of UA-cam.. thanks for giving❤
Wow! Thank you so much!
I'm really glad you liked it. 😊
Kratos has allowed me to learn many things
at 25:39 made me want to pull out the Belt of Sparta onto Atreus.
What really gets me is the moments he wants to show his love to his boy, but hesitates. Even still, he is never cruel.
There were no lessons in Alfheim?
This video is very good and I appreciate your work. Can’t wait for the ragnorok video
Thank you! 😊
"Greed, a common cause for war" is in Alfheim.
They have a few more conversations about the war between the elves there. I intend to make a separate video about war.
@@SocratesPlays okay good to know! I would like to see more philosophy lessons in Video Games. Maybe Assassins Creed as a next project? They had a lot of deep meanings in their games. I stopped with origins though
Sure, I definitely need to start with AC Odyssey. The portrayal of Socrates there is amazing. 😅
Great lessons but number 30 is straight up mental😂
Kratos the Mentor of life
I love how in the first game, since Atreus is younger kratos tells him to close his heart to others but in ragnarok when he’s come into his own and kratos allows him to feel the emotions of the surrounding midgardians
Indeed. I made short about that moment. In case you haven't seen it yet:
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Thank you for the comment. 😊
Brother, it's an amazing video! I would love to see similar video for Raganrök!
Thank you!
I'm working on it. 😊
Is it frighten you, if yes ,that is why you must do it , this line help me a lot to deal with my life
Kratos still teaching us
Perfect depiction of spartan teaching
I really like how Atreus embodied Kratos younger self madness. Quick to temper, rash and out of control. He's really Kratos's son. Kratos becomes mad at Atreus because he sees his younger self in Atreus xD.
This game taught me more interesting and useful things than school
13:20 "We win because we are determined, disciplined, not because we feel ourselves superior."
My favorite one. So much evil in the world could be avoided if some people didn't feel superior. 😕
So true, honestly.
The human mind and heart is weak and easy to corrupt ..it takes serious will to uphold your own standards and morals
thank you for this video ❤
I'm glad you liked it.
Thank you for the feedback. 😊
"We win because we are determined and disciplined, not because we feel ourselves superior."
Amazing! Are you also going to make a video of all the lessons from Ragnarök?
Yes, that's in the making. But in Ragnarök, I think there will be some things to learn from Atreus as well. 😊
Thank you so much for your feedback. 🙏🏻
Man this game's writing feels so different ragnarok. I know they were going for a more psoitive tone but it just felt so disassociated and story like. This felt like i was right there with them on the jounrey and it felt so real
Perhaps you felt this way about Ragnarök because Atreus was older and making his own decisions, whereas in the first game, Kratos was always by his side? 🤔
Ah, thank you for this video
For all that think Kratos is a Bad father. I say no he isn't he lost his first Family. Than he lost is Second wife. He is harsh to Atreus so he learns the Truth about life soon enough and so he is strong and wise to survive and live a good life. That Atreus dont do the same mistakes Kratos did. And that is what Parents should do teach their Kids all that they need to live a good live and survive it till their times comes.
Parents can learn a lot from their children, too. It's important to adapt and change course if necessary for their benefit.
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@@SocratesPlays You're right we all should learn from each other.
One of the best games on earth
"No confundas mi silencio con ausencia de duelo, llora a tu manera... y yo haré lo mismo"
Podría haber incluido este también.
Gracias por recordar.
Kratos own spartan training showing through teaching the boy
" Olympians overestimate themeselves "
This game was therapy to those of us who had deadbeat dads.
It like advice for yourself in going to the right path of being a good warrior.
Do you think those pieces of advice could only be used in a war?
@@SocratesPlays they can be use in many ways with or without war.
One thing I learned from Kratos is that Atreus is a Boi.
Long distance relationship
Kratos: Can you hit it from here?
Great video i hope u make the same content for the god of war ragnarok. thx for the video again.
Thank you! 🙏🏻
It's in the making. 😊
i think the dialogue in the first Game is better compared to the second part
I’ve watched that deer die too many times in my life😂
You finished what you started. 😅
I love even the sadist God of war never hit his own child
In this Norse series kratos is not the typical savage anymore but a father / mentor
In number 35, Kratos is using the Socratic Method, a teaching style that originates from Ancient Greece.
Focus on what is, take your dissapointment as your lesson and dont be sorry, be better
I can't say i agree with Kratos to feel nothing when you kill someone
As Jesus Christ said we should even love our enemies and we should show mercy
Of course killing is necessary sometimes .There is a lot of evil out there
But we shouldn't feel nothing even if they dont feel nothing for us
Its this kind of teaching to feel nothing for others that makes humanity so brutal
You make a fair point. I suppose we can consider Kratos's advice in the context of their environment and the dangers they still had to face.
Depending on the circumstances, that might have been the only option. However, I agree with you that there are gaps in the advice he gave Atreus, which Kratos realizes in God of War Ragnarok when he tells Atreus he was wrong. Please refer to this short I made:
ua-cam.com/users/shortsAciiTLLuDBk?feature=share
@@SocratesPlays alright cool
I will check it out
This game is a beautiful representation of masculinity. Mastering your emotions in your element of survival. A positive representation of Fatherhood. Boys are made into Men under the guidance of those who have mastered manhood, by experience. Atreus would have been lost to his emotions without his Fathers experience to Guide him...
13:48 This. Having upkept tools is good for any profession, you can go through growing pains but not your tools.
Kratos is the ultimate example of "I love him daddy! I can fix him!" 😅. Only in this case Faye DID in fact "fix" him!
1:11 Know your limits.
Playing God of war and Red dead redemption completely changed my life
I'm glad games like these are playing an important role in your life. This is the power of art being manifested.
Tell me, Kratos, if I were your son, what should I do if someone is threatening me?"
"Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed"
As a hardcore Gacha Games player, i'm always keep this line deep into my mind everytime i spend my gacha currency to do pulling in some banners.
Because i understand, *the more hope you put into it, the more hard you will get it to your possesions*
I suppose you can apply this to many different situations in life.
It's the greatest version of kratos people think this version of kratos is weak but it's opposite he can completely control his rage that's the biggest strength
stand proud son... you are strong
I wish i had a father like Kratos
I hope you can find more wisdom elsewhere. Fortunately, the internet serves us well in that regard.
I'm glad my video reached you. 😊
Thank you for your comment. 🙏🏻
Kratos is more of an All-father than odin ever was😂
8:56 in ragnarok kratos corrects himself and tells aterus not to close his heart
Indeed. I made a short about that moment. In case you haven't seen it yet:
ua-cam.com/users/shortsAciiTLLuDBk?feature=share
SPOILER
The phrases “Close your heart to it” are very powerful if listened to after the end of GOW Ragnarok, where Kratos asks Atreus to open his heart.
The most important thing that I've kearned is to not judge the others (because I use to judge Atreus a lot) but to put myself in his place and learn with his journey.
I'm so sad that they destroyed this beatiful game over the years.
What do you mean by "destroyed"?
14:07 this scene saved them against Baldur
I understand why the relationship between the two reflects a lot of the families but man Artreus does nothing but piss me off.
If a kid can sometimes be annoying, imagine a "god kid." 😅
If Atreus managed to annoy you, kudos to the developers.
Be better ❤
Realize how basically every dad is harder when you are younger then when you’re like mid way ten years old they are a little nicer