Okay, I Like Sohyang, her Breath control is out of this world, her mixed voice is one of her biggest strengths. I do find her tone polarizing at times, which I think is due to me not being used to her sound. Her HeadVoice is another one of her biggest Strength’s in my opinion, but something that the UA-cam vocal community needs to remember, is that these vocalists and singers are human, and have flaws, they are not perfect. Other than that, I think she is phenomenal. Her Cover of Never Enough is Amazing.
Yep it's just that the way she overuse her twang makes her sounds shrill and very very piercing which I'm not a fan of And yep she's not perfect or well rounded vocalist but still a great vocalist And her never enough cover is also my favorite 😍
She is a diva not only because of her singing skills, which is important, but because of everything she is as a person, her love and smile, victories in life's difficulties, divorced parents, a fight with a tumor, hepatitis, with seven pneumonias in a row and she managed to return, to defeat vanity... and she can convey all that through singing. Her voice takes me back to my childhood, pure emotion, untainted. she makes people feel good, and even if she is not always in the right tone, her mistakes are forgiven because of that
So Hyang Is not great only for her voice, she Is great because she uses all the vocal skills to make a whole sound épic. Her lows are not ger strenght, BUT, that doesn't mean she doesn't use it, you can hear it in "breathe, you raise me UP, hug me" she really doesn't need them because of her style. Her ascending range Is perfect and gives an impact whenever you listen a son of her. She gives epic vocal performances than others can't even buecause they don't have ability to go so soft to so strong.
She is neither Whitney nor Mariah. She is So-hyang. We don’t care if she is technically perfect or how high her notes can go. We are simply comforted and moved by her songs. “That’s why we love her.”
Great singer. I really enjoy Sohyangs voice when she sings traditional Korean music. Lows- She has a poor lower register. She is pretty foggy below Bb3. Mids- Same as her lower register. She has an aspirated quality that is indicative of her lack of chest development. I personally wouldn't mark hardly any of it green. High Belts- She hardly utilizes it post- 2016 but has shown really nice potential in the past. Mix- This is where She shines. She has been able to showcase great ease and stamina in her mix. Incredible Head voice- my favorite part of her voice. Lovely timbre and great sense of dynamics and pitch. Agility- not her strong point but isn't bad by any means. Dynamics- She has pretty nice dynamics. I would say she would be close to the level of Celine or Whitney.
wow! Could you show with examples how is the correct way to sing the weak lows and mids that Sohyang has? Could you also show with examples (this would take more time) how to maintain healthy belting from the middle register to the high register for more than two decades? making regular performances every year? Sohyang does that, you know? And finally, could you give examples of superior dynamics and agility than Sohyang? This includes vibrato, one of the most important and difficult aspects of the voice to develop. And I am talking about the correct vibrato, nerve impulse, oscillation and correct speed that goes from the abdomen to the larynx and is released with energy without any obstruction. The only thing that stops the air is the closure of the vocal cords and as a great singer rises in his register his vibrato must remain free, flowery and resonant. That you can speed up or slow down, raise and lower volume. That's part of the dynamics, right? That's what technique is about, right? to keep the throat open using the muscles that are made to close it. Sohyang is a master at this and you say that she is inferior to celine and whitney? I would like you to show me how it's done! And when I ask you for examples I'm not talking about telling me which singer does it better! I ask you to set the example. that is, record yourself on video singing live and share with us so that you enlighten us and we can understand how to sing.
I think when it comes to singers’ lower register, it’s important to note what their actual low range is taking into consideration where their voice naturally seats. What i have noticed about Sohyang is that her voice sits quite high compared to other singers/sopranos so the G3s are at her most extremes. Also the way she tackles the “apparent”low notes could also give the reason a lot of people think its just weak. She usually doesn’t carry weight in her lower voice, even below D4. Its her “fairy” like style. She is capable of adding more body but her voice(it’s only my world) naturally isnt very heavy-she gives me light lyric vibes, so this doesn’t seem comfortable for her. Overall, i dont think her lower register is as weak as a whole lot of people claim it is. She also does sing in chest voice and is still comfortable around D5 so she isnt always singing in mix.
Yeah i mean her lows are just average at best not very weak probably stylistic, sohyang has shown to be able to belt as high as G5 when she was younger but she utilize mix way more often
@@allykelly Certainly true, but subject to anatomical limitations. In her case, knowing her work ethic, such a deficiency isn't from lack of effort or work.
although she is an Asian and has to battle with cancer and pneumonia, her consistent range is super amazing Her lower register is getting better but I guess now she is just consistent up to A5 in mix. Her headvoice is still good tho. Maybe the best singer technically currently Look forward to Lisa Fischer's analysis too
Certainly an impressive vocalist, especially when it comes to her mixing and how she stays up there, phrasing and sustaining with great stamina. Her head voice is my favorite register of hers, it's the most beautiful tone she can deliver imo. Her dynamics and transitions are also very impressive, her overall control of her voice actually. I gotta say tho, her lows are practically non existent and I'm not the biggest fan of her tone and style of singing, making it harder for me to appreciate her signing, although I'm certain she's great.
So Hyang simply has fewer weaknesses and more strengths than any other female vocalist I have ever come across. Her box of vocal tools just has more in it than any other. Any reason to pick her innumerable skills apart is either mere jealousy or just a kind of silly waste of time.
@@asiastraineddogwillleaveyou it has weight but the larynx got pulled high and it made squeezed and very strident sound and it wasn't really opened. but it's not strained that's why I didn't label it as red
at least she doesn't try to low her larynx to much to prove that she can sing well in low register. Her low range is not that low but it's kind of easy to ear for me
I agree low notes are bad. I think her mixed voice is one of the best in Asia or even the world. Her agility is good, but nothing impressive. Her vocal dynamics are very good, I have even seen that she has done messa di voce. Good video. Definitely one of my favorite singers 💙 forever.
I always thought some of her upper notes are shrill and even tense so yeah but it's normal for her and she barely strain due to her light approach which is smart and i do agree that she needs work in her mid range A GOOD ANALYSIS 👍
Does she need to though? Her style isn’t of a weighty singer so does she really have to? I think her mid range is okay. Is we use robust as the barometer then she will be bad but otherwise she is fine
@@Das644 it's that it hinders her chest in developing and make her less impressive it's her style but it'd be much better if she put more effort on this area
One of so hyang's weakness are her light and thin sounds...imagine a 45 years old but still sounds so thin...for me her headvoice is quite unmatched coz her voice sounds free and amazing....all singers has their own weaknesses...but still all of them are the best singers
@@EmviloriamE *small resonance. Idk but to be honest Natalie's resonance (>Eb5) is always light and lack of necessary weight for me. There are some Eb5s which are better than SoHyang's one (Whitney Houston)
@Ventus she has recordings demonstrating great scuro e.g. ( it's only my world, ua-cam.com/video/OYLSGh4yu2s/v-deo.html in 15:34). It's just that it's more of her stylistic preference to sound light. She has control but not much amplified. Though I'm not saying it's scuro is not much done by Light lyric sopranos, but isn't this technique is more common in spintos, bel cantos and dramatic soprano?
@Ventus That’s absolutely a delusional grandiose statement. You are not right about twang. Twang is a necessary part of how you amplify the singer’s formant to achieve true squillo.
@@allykelly I agree with this segment, but I don't really know why people compare them, cause they got different techniques despite both singers come from gospel signature and Sohyang is not that younger than Mariah.
Hi Ally! can i ask you? What your opinion about Sohyang on 2021 - 2024 era (especially on her thrill concert and solo concert)? Did she fully regress from her 2012 - 2017 era like much people say?
She sacrificed her lower register and vocal agility for those amazing belts (esp in the upper belts) and strong head voice... It's not that her lower register and vocal agility is bad, it's just decent and is not as strong as her belting and upper register... Regardless, she's a great vocalist who specializes in mixed register with a pretty strong head voice...
Def the only Asian singer who can compete with Western legendary vocalists (ofc sohyang is not on their level), even this shouty G#5 (5:09) sounds ok, not bad for me.
To be honest, she's amazing but she's kinda overrated to be honest, people are saying her vocal agility is as good as Ariana Grande, people are claiming shes consistent in C#6 in mix while she never did a center C#6,and she "supported" an F3 and F6 but I've never heard her do it, and her lows are consistent in G3
Wow, critical of sohyang and that’s fine but it does make me wonder about the quality of your opinion. Are you known all around the world with a Uber #1 reputation and have produced and analyzed the best in the business and THEY respect your opinion? Does Whitney, Celine, Dimash, Adele, etc know your name and game? I’m a total amateur but I’ve seen enough vocal professional singers and coaches say alot more good things overall than what you say on this platform. Sohyang is so much more than just a vocalist and that’s why I feel this way and sorry about attacking you if that’s the way that it seems because you stand out amongst so many and i obviously support her a lot because I’m biased and she’s my favorite.
Hi there this is my channel i use my way to make contents analysis, showcases etc, i never forced anyone to agree with or sugarcoat, my vocal ability has nothing to do with my knowledge and prespective of the singers i analyze. If you prefer those coaches videos then go watch them Thanks for the comment
I don't think you're right with your grades in belting/mixing section, mostly cause you simply graded her actual BELTS lower (cause they're indeed more shouty and tensed, cause it's belts, duh), unlike her mixed notes (which is lighter approach and essentially not even an M1 mode anymore), simply cause they sound more pleasant, but that doesn't mean they're bad, Sohyang simply switched her approach towards more light as she aged and that's why she doesn't sound as shrill as before, cause actual upper BELTING always gonna sound shrill, no matter what you do, it's not even her fault, basically any belter sounds shrill and tensed up there, cause there's natural limit for belting in everyone's voices
I mean u can see that there are no red labelled notes so which means she has no BAD notes She has issues as i stated in the video Some of her mixed notes were tense/constricted even as low as E5
Sohyang sometime sounds slightly nasal when she sings in English but I don't hear it in Korean at all. Is this due to her slight accent? Someone suggested it's the same with Celine due to her Canandian accent. What do you think?
People confuse with nasality and twangy they sounds similar but not the same, I'd say there has nothing to do with accent it's just Sohyang's regular approach, Celine's nasality probably has a thing to do with accent but again I'm not sure and not a big deal when Celine has shown to be able to engage her pharynx
did you watch her 2022 performance she is the best vocalist on the present time line and pls use the current performance of her rather than her 20 years old one. 🙄
Yeah that's my criteria Great means that the note is technically optimal free and powerful Good means the note is done with good technique but still has minor issue Decent means it's has unnecessary tension/constricted but still not severe Average means that the unnecessary tension almost take over the sound quality (obstruct) Bad means the note is filled with extreme amount of tension or the note is too soft/weak
I never understood why people put her in such a high level, it’s because her mixed voice. She’s a master on that, and since many people seem to think high notes= best vocalists.
@UCmyDVLcXK0jV60DlOa-eTDg to me, if a person is just good at belting but with the others' registers aren’t developed, they can’t be considered better than a vocalist who has a lower register, head voice register, and riff and runs developed and grounded
@@boppop717 Upper belt: SoHyang>Mariah Excuse me, since when sohyang rarely belt when most of her G5s in Bridge over trouble water are sustained belts, not Mariah cannot sustain any F5s, even not consistent in F5/F#5 area lmao
@@monaco4895 Excuse you too, most of her G5s approach are M2 that are light , and yes for your comment that sohyang showed sustained note belts (but light) but generally speaking ,most of her G5s are MIX
Again it's a matter of preference i personally find her lower range warm and inviting and while i agree it's not the strongest part of her voice to say it is weak is not accurate and again that is purely my humble opinion.
Her upper mixed register is great! But she is definitely lacking in terms of chest development. Lets be honest, her lows are not good, and her mid belts sound lifeless. I enjoy her head voice, but I must admit that I overall find her tone to be quite unpleasant. She is definitely a skilled vocalist though. Her and Natalie Weiss seem to get compared frequently, but I feel like Natalie is the superior vocalist. Natalie has excellent development in every area of her voice. Would you consider doing one of these or Natalie? Would love to see it!
The fact that Natalie's mid belts also sound lifeless too=(). Above C#5/D5, Natalie's resonance is even lighter than SoHyang, I do not see any moments that Natalie does belting above Eb5. Sohyang is def better than Natalie as a mixer and even belter
Please do NOT "analyze" any more of Sohyang's music. After more than 20 years of singing in every conceivable environment and venue, many times while suffering from Pneumonia, she has given you some less than stellar moments you can be picky about. You have selected many situations that, for one reason or another, distort or do not record her voice accurately. Conversely, Sohyang has given millions of us a great deal of joy by singing to us from her heart. A very rare quality in vocalists that you have missed completely. Just move on and apply your clinical analysis to someone with more material to criticize than Sohyang has generously provided. Cheers.
Pls understand this sohyang is not perfect but still a great vocalist she has up and down moments which is pretty much normal It doesn't take away of anything she can do with her instrument If you don't like my video just leave definitely not gonna force anyone to agree with me
@@daveg.6820 Absolutely Dave. This "analysis" from this lady is pretty cold and calculating, and doesn't even attempt to understand why tens of millions of people around the world are her dedicated fans. Sohyang has that "it" factor, and that is her ability to communicate with her audience to the point that they are often left in tears from her performances. People like David Foster, Michael Bolton and Josh Groban go out of their way, and I mean seriously out of their way, to work with her when they are in Asia and South Korea. So why would people like David Foster do that? Because he loves her voice and her ability to connect with them on an emotional level! Here is what David Foster had to say about Sohyang in an interview with Naver on December 10, 2018, only a week after doing eight concerts with her at Tokyo's Blue Note Club. “I wanted to meet her very much, and I am happy to have collaborated in putting together a concert. Here is how I got to know about Sohyang. Oprah Winfrey introduced me to 'a stunningly amazing singer whose video is a must watch.' I fell in love at once with Sohyang's first video I watched on UA-cam, 'I Have Nothing.' It was thrilling, and I searched to listen to most of her other songs as well. I have wanted to meet her for a long time. She is one of the top divas I've come across." David Foster didn't hold back praises. "Her voice is very beautiful and overwhelming, and I found her every performance to be emotionally moving and amazing. Moving forward, I want to collaborate again!" In fact, it was Whitney Houston's own former manager who found Sohyang on UA-cam singing her 2015 performance of "I Have Nothing" and was so overwhelmed that he took it to Oprah Winfrey and Oprah took it to David Foster because it was so intensely excellent! So, I'll take David Foster's analysis over Kelly's any day. He knows what he is talking about and does not take snippets of performances from many years ago when she was still working on her technique. (And yes you did Ms. Kelly! At least one of those snippets was from way back in the 2000s!) Or from fan cams on cell phones that can't even properly capture the sound. As we both know Sohyang sings everywhere, and I mean in many less than optimal settings with poor equipment and even when she is sick with pneumonia, because she wants to lift people's spirits regardless of whether their church can afford the fanciest equipment or staging. Keep that in mind Ms. Kelly. And do you do that? If so, can we have your analysis of your own singing in churches with far less than optimal acoustics, microphones and amplification equipment, even when you are sick with pneumonia and still learning proper technique? 🤔🤨🙄
@@ToddSauve Todd, Thanks. When I come across this sort of professional coldness, I have to speak up. I suspect that there is no singer on the planet that Ally will not eventually submit to this kind of sound engineering nonsense. In the final analysis, it smacks of meanness and jealousy. Who needs it? Certainly not music fans who can immediately recognize and delight in having stumbled onto greatness - the kind embodied in gentle Sohyang. Cheers, friend.
@@daveg.6820 I couldn't agree more. This is so cold she ought to re-evaluate her career path. Because this isn't working on any level. She comes across as smug and condescending, even if she may like Sohyang and think she is one of the best out there. Even Seth Riggs is on record as saying Sohyang is the best he has worked with from Asia and can compete with anyone--including we vaunted North Americans and Europeans. And every major label has tried to sign Sohyang. How many have tried to sign Ms. Kelly?
With such range and general logic, you're most probably not even a baritone to begin with. Pretty standard undeveloped tenor range, all began from that
This makes me confused because my support range is around G2-D4/Eb4-C#5 (if you count head voice) I thought I was a baritone but I'm so confused. My full range is around E2-A4-C6
She has a catlike, whiney texture to her upper belts and a grating tone for me. It sounds as if she's holding her nose and using poor intonation 4:51. I think she's very solid but polarizing. She reminds me of Brendon Urie, an almost "overly mixed" vocal technique that can become twangy and whiney but still technically correct. I can see why she's very good but not for everyone.
You say "EXPERT" what leads you to think this person whoever it is,is an expert?am I an expert on football because I watch all the games?or am I someone who has an opinion on what I have watched.would I base which restaurant I eat in just because someone who has eaten there once said it was the worst one had eaten in just because he writes for a magazine I am supposed to think his opinion holds water.if this person is a vocal coach why would that matter,have you ever seen someone who's main job is vocal coach have a fraction of musical success Sohyang has
I don't see how sohyang is compared to mariah carey just because she covers one of her songs that's like every singer covers a mariah carey song they have completely different styles and sohyang doesn't even do whistle register like mariah ,she has a belting register like Patti Labelle or Jennifer hudson, Regine and Celine dion and jonalyn viray not really mariah carey
@@allykelly I know that's why I said it confuses me and kinda tired even sohyang in a interview that she can't compare to mariah carey because obviously they have very differetly singing styles sohyang is more of high belter, mariah is a mid belter and whistler sohyang doesn't do whistle notes now if she did more okay yeah maybe but she doesn't
@@Ariii78 i think that name comes from korean people who really admire and respect her as the best vocalist in korea. So they use that MC korean version because that time they just know that maria known as the best vocalist in USA (not talkimg about the technic they use because it really different)
She is at a Great level, right? Her mix and upper registers are amazing, but the lower register is pretty weak. Also, may you analyze Lee Haeri's vocals too if you have some time? I think Lee Haeri developed her technique such as supporting her head voice up to F5. (ua-cam.com/video/_4gIEGKDB6w/v-deo.html 3:54)
@@allykellyThank youuu!!! I’d gotten really interested in them lately 😅😅😅 Also, have you changed vocal rating systems or whatever they’re called? Do you still use KVA or do have you switched to CVT or the likes? What system do you use at the moment? Lastly, how can I learn more about vocal technique? Sorry for the amount of questions and inconvenience 😅😅😅
@@chanelno.26 i don't use both but i find CVT more respectable and acceptable than kva even tho vocal science disagree with few parts But u can learn more about vocals by joining our group chat on insta or discord Dm me instagram.com/_fastt02/
@@allykelly yeah Ik, but is her tessitura typical of a high soprano. I feel like her voice is slightly higher than Natalie Weiss and Regine, maybe her overusage of Twang tricked me but what’s ur opinion
Hello Your analysis is looking good and useful. I have a question for you here. Looking at Sohyang's overall vocal ability, taking into account for strengths and weaknesses, is there currently a better vocalist than Sohyang? If so, what kind of singer would you be?
Thankyou for analyzing Sohyang. Udah scroll komen sampai bawah banget, ternyata orang Indonesia. Aku nggak paham tentang kind/rules of music, cuma sudah jadi fans Sohyang sejak 2018, jadi agak bisa paham dikit lah wkwkwk. Jujur, aku rasa manusiawi kalau ada kurang lebihnya manusia, khususnya penyanyi. Begitupula Sohyang. Ini mau nanggapi yang sering kritik sohyang; Sohyang selalu dibilang suaranya itu nggak berwarna (ini aku bingung, kenapa selalu dibilang nggak berwarna, dimana tendensi warna yg mereka maksud selalu jenis suara tebal dan bisa versatile (karena mereka nyebutin nama penyanyi yg punya warna, dan rata² yg suaranya tebal dan versatile); apa warna suara yang spesial itu harus begitu ya? jujur sakit hati kalau sohyang selalu dibilang suara warnanya itu biasa aja, nothing special gitu), lalu Sohyang selalu dibilang nada rendahnya jelek cenderung bad (bukannya full lyric sopran kaya sohyang emang nggak mungkin bisa nada rendah yg rendah banget kan? agak bingung, nada paling rendah utk jenis suara sohyang (yg full lyric sopran; soalnya kan jenis sopran kan banyak ya) tuh harusnya gimana ya?) lalu perihal kemampuan sohyang yang kayanya nggak sebanyak penyanyi modern sekarang (kaya whistle, growl, atau yg versatile) selalu jadi standar, kaya sohyang cuma bisa high belt doang, menang nada tinggi doang (dan signature dia high belt pula :" padahal dia bsa yg lain juga (ini hampir semua yt vocal selalu fokus ke high notenya sohyamg, ngk pernah yg lain. di IG pun begitu, paling sakit hati waktu ngecover i hv nothing, abis kena hujat perihal beda aransemen kaya yg asli dam high note, padahal david fosternya malah ngundang konser), dan selalu dibilang bahwa jadi the best singer ngk karena nada tinggi doang. Jadi, utk meraih the best singer harus bisa semua ya? padahal sohyang ini selalu konsisten, dan emang kalau dibilang ahli disitu (walau ngk banyak kemampuannya kaya penyanyi modern yg versatile, tpi dia ahli dibidang dia, bahkan diatas rata² juga). Selain itu menurutku kayanya style sohyang ini emang old style juga (aku ngk paham nyebutnya apa, cuma sohyang nih kaya penyanyi² 90an kebawah, yg dimana dia nyanyi di tahun² sekarang, jdi kaya kurang cocok sama taste/style listener sekarang), misalnya kaya pilihan lagu² sohyang juga, sohyang jarang nyanyi lagu² skrng, rata² lagu² lama, plus jujur aku ngerasa tone suara sohyang ini emang ngk bisa disemua lagu, makanya kadang banyak yg hate komen bilang nggak cocoklah, not pleasant (ini paling ngeselin), tpi kalau lagu sama tipe suaranya cocok, lagunya bakal enak banget (lebih ke gospel kalau aku rasa, sama lagu korea. tapi kalo utk lagu pop english modern, kaya kurang. Lagu never enough menurutku paling aku kurang srek, karena kaya kurang cocok dinyamyiin suara sohyang). Dan perihal overate, ini juga bingungin sih, knpa overate, rata² secara teknis berdasarkan vocal² coach emang ngakuin teknik dia itu bagus, healty, konsisten dan on the same level kaya penyanyi² legend/pemyanyi dulu (mksdnya kan teknik nyanyinya bukan famenya) dan aku jarang liat sohyamg dibamdingi sama penyamyi2 skrng selalu penyamyi² lama (dan entah knpa aku liat dia nyamyi, gayanya tuh emamg kaya penyamyi lama), dan ya skrmg tuh aku lihat sohyang mungkin udah ngk terlalu ambis (yaampun bahasanya 😅) kaya eksperimen lagu, dll, mungkin karena umur, passion dan menjaga fisik juga jadinya ngk kaya dulu, bahkan kalau nyanyi lagunya itu² aja dan jarang nyanyi lagu yg baru tpi she is still amazing☺ sbnrmyaa masih bnyk, cman takut.kepanjangan. maaf ya jadi curhat gini, tpi karena i genuinely love her as human being that dedicated herself.to.god.and people, not only a singer, jdinya suka kesel kalau ada yg downgrade /hina sohyang sebegitunya apalagi dia juga bukan penyanyi yg macem²😞😞
Terimakasih atas komentar nya ya sohyang itu salah satu vocalist yang banyak cukup di bicarakan dari segi versatility dia gak unggul soal nya dia tipe gospel sama contemporary, untuk tone itu subjektif sih bagus bagus aja, untuk teknik itu udah bagus banget cuman ya ada kekurangan juga seperti di lower register sama mid belt sama agility juga kadang pitch nya bisa gak konsisten tapi overall teknik nya bagus banget, mixed voice nya salah satu yang terbaik
Sohyang kena pneumonia dari 2016 sampai awal-pertengahan 2020, pneumonianya sampai ketitik kronis di satu tahun penuh di 2019. Terus jangan lupa sohyang juga salah satu manusia beruntung, manusia kuat yang selamat dari kanker di usia dia 21, jadi akibat itu lah fisik sohyang itu lemah, dia gak mau ambil resiko terlalu tinggi soalnya kalo dia kecapekan nyanyi, dia bakal gampang kena penyakit atau bahkan pneumonianya balik lagi.
@@allykellyIzin nanya🙏🏻 emang pneumonia yang tingkat sedang sampai kronis itu gak ngaruh ke skill penyanyi ya? Soalnya gw pernah ngasih unjuk video sohyang tahun 2018 (dia udah kena pneumonia) ke vocal community terus gw sedikit memuji sohyang soalnya dia nyanyi lean on me pakai kunci yang sampai B5 (terus pas hit sustained B5nya juga gak flat/sharp), nah tapi abis itu, ada salah satu admin vocal communitynya malah ngejek gw, katanya kalo gak ngerti mekanisme menyanyi gausah memuji, pneumonia itu gak ngaruh ke skill penyanyi, jadi gausah dibanggakan. Menurut you gimana?
It's not related to SoHyang but do you SNSD Seohyun and Tiffany improved their vocals especially to Seohyun because some said that she supported ALL of her C5 notes in the forever 1 album?
Hi! Umm I'm not sure cuz I don't really follow them but Seohyun did quite well in forever one she sounds a bit darker and thicker than usual and her C5s are so promising
Many notes and performances in video not her best, even very low quality. Your analysis be biased. You sound like pinoy (most of them hate so hyang badly and always bash her), arent you? Sorry to say but low-quality analysis content. Though good luck!
At best yes but we can't overlook that Sohyang has tendencies to tilt her laryngeal to M2 (mixed voice) ssy and Haeri has stronger column on their middle voice so those 2 take belts and Sohyang takes mixed voice Sohyang is still a better vocalist than both tho
personally i wouldnt call sohyang the korean mariah carey,Mariah is known for her upperbelts and agility both something sohyang sucks at..but its their opinion who they call "korean mariah C"
@@eunjiscake7189 faouzia has better head voice tho she has Bb5s Faouzia has Eb3-C#5/D5-A5/Bb5 + insane agility and vocal flexibility so she's better overall
@@eunjiscake7189 yes but Yeonji's head voice is underutilized there are just few moments she hit G#5-A5 faouzia sang lots of Bb5s in her last touring Yeonji has dynamic while Faouzia has fioritura (flourishes). We can't overlook Yeonji can get tense with her goat and forced vibrato which less healthy than Faouzia
Not related But I swear I heard many times that people says winter(aespa) will be able to produce resonance in the A4-Bb4 region. But I really don't think an average vocalist can really produce "resonance". What do you think about it
@@blinkot4181 to me kva isn't reliable cuz they misuse the term resonance is basically a sound, true resonance is squillo which hardly exist outside opera that we all been hearing are just ringing from mechanic, engineering tool, mic amplification sensation/reverb
Finally an honest critique of her without blind praise. Sohyang is a very talented vocalist and I think her voice is pretty, but it's just her fans think that she's untouchable. They often ignore her flaws. She has a great mix and her head voice is beautiful. Her issues are the lack of core in her middle voice and her chest voice being underdeveloped. People often ignore her tension issues in the higher parts of her voice. It's present in her voice so she's not perfect. Her stans always point out vocal flaws in other vocalists, but they get very upset when you point out hers.
Agreed. Her fans and lambs have created a false toxic environment Sohyang shines singing gospel and her traditional Korean music. I love her phrasing in her head voice. ❤️
For the copyrighted clip at 10:34
ua-cam.com/video/3Qv1TtCG84g/v-deo.html (4:55) piano
Thanks for being sincere and showing that Sohyang strains in some cases. Her fans say that she supports 100% all time.
She strained low notes, but when mid belts no
And upper
Okay, I Like Sohyang, her Breath control is out of this world, her mixed voice is one of her biggest strengths. I do find her tone polarizing at times, which I think is due to me not being used to her sound.
Her HeadVoice is another one of her biggest Strength’s in my opinion, but something that the UA-cam vocal community needs to remember, is that these vocalists and singers are human, and have flaws, they are not perfect.
Other than that, I think she is phenomenal. Her Cover of Never Enough is Amazing.
Yep it's just that the way she overuse her twang makes her sounds shrill and very very piercing which I'm not a fan of
And yep she's not perfect or well rounded vocalist but still a great vocalist
And her never enough cover is also my favorite 😍
Thank you for the "human" response.
우와 세계 언론에서 다루네
국내보단 세계 언론이 낫네
She is a diva not only because of her singing skills, which is important, but because of everything she is as a person, her love and smile, victories in life's difficulties, divorced parents, a fight with a tumor, hepatitis, with seven pneumonias in a row and she managed to return, to defeat vanity... and she can convey all that through singing. Her voice takes me back to my childhood, pure emotion, untainted. she makes people feel good, and even if she is not always in the right tone, her mistakes are forgiven because of that
So Hyang Is not great only for her voice, she Is great because she uses all the vocal skills to make a whole sound épic. Her lows are not ger strenght, BUT, that doesn't mean she doesn't use it, you can hear it in "breathe, you raise me UP, hug me" she really doesn't need them because of her style. Her ascending range Is perfect and gives an impact whenever you listen a son of her. She gives epic vocal performances than others can't even buecause they don't have ability to go so soft to so strong.
incredible Queen Sohyang!! heavenly diva, heavenly voice. Her voice is angelic, soft and sweet.
She is neither Whitney nor Mariah. She is So-hyang.
We don’t care if she is technically perfect or how high her notes can go. We are simply comforted and moved by her songs.
“That’s why we love her.”
tight, shouty, pushy you may say.. but no singer can even belt those crazy notes
Out of this world.. no one can other than her.
*mix there are other examples of singers with great mixing technique such as Lisa Fischer, Melba Moore, sandy Patti, Natalie Weiss
@@allykelly please do one on Natalie Weiss!!!
not to mention paulette cambronero's super sonic explosive " MIXED VOICE " LMAO
It's not even a belt, prove that you don't know what you're talking about
@@allykellyIdk ab Melba, but Sohyang’s mixed voice is def better than Natalie and Lisa, by a very big gap too.
Great singer. I really enjoy Sohyangs voice when she sings traditional Korean music.
Lows- She has a poor lower register. She is pretty foggy below Bb3.
Mids- Same as her lower register. She has an aspirated quality that is indicative of her lack of chest development. I personally wouldn't mark hardly any of it green.
High Belts- She hardly utilizes it post- 2016 but has shown really nice potential in the past.
Mix- This is where She shines. She has been able to showcase great ease and stamina in her mix. Incredible
Head voice- my favorite part of her voice. Lovely timbre and great sense of dynamics and pitch.
Agility- not her strong point but isn't bad by any means.
Dynamics- She has pretty nice dynamics. I would say she would be close to the level of Celine or Whitney.
I'd say her dynamic is on par with Celine and Whitney tho 👀
@ally kelly Celine and Whitney's dynamics are free-er. Sohyangs dynamics have tension, but she is still incredible.
@@nomore9686 i mean Celine's dynamic can be airy as well so
wow!
Could you show with examples how is the correct way to sing the weak lows and mids that Sohyang has?
Could you also show with examples (this would take more time) how to maintain healthy belting from the middle register to the high register for more than two decades? making regular performances every year? Sohyang does that, you know?
And finally, could you give examples of superior dynamics and agility than Sohyang? This includes vibrato, one of the most important and difficult aspects of the voice to develop. And I am talking about the correct vibrato, nerve impulse, oscillation and correct speed that goes from the abdomen to the larynx and is released with energy without any obstruction. The only thing that stops the air is the closure of the vocal cords and as a great singer rises in his register his vibrato must remain free, flowery and resonant. That you can speed up or slow down, raise and lower volume. That's part of the dynamics, right? That's what technique is about, right? to keep the throat open using the muscles that are made to close it. Sohyang is a master at this and you say that she is inferior to celine and whitney? I would like you to show me how it's done!
And when I ask you for examples I'm not talking about telling me which singer does it better! I ask you to set the example. that is, record yourself on video singing live and share with us so that you enlighten us and we can understand how to sing.
@@AlejandroHernandez-pq2wv LMAO
Her transitions is my favourite part of her voice 😍😍😍
Same it's so smooth
Queen of Balanced Mix ❤👸
Lol
@@allykelly Se tenía que decir y se dijo 🤭
she is one of the queens of korea, she makes one like this park ki young, sohyang's best friend too
To me, She is the best singer in the world!!!
😍😍
Same. One of my favourites 💙
I think when it comes to singers’ lower register, it’s important to note what their actual low range is taking into consideration where their voice naturally seats.
What i have noticed about Sohyang is that her voice sits quite high compared to other singers/sopranos so the G3s are at her most extremes. Also the way she tackles the “apparent”low notes could also give the reason a lot of people think its just weak. She usually doesn’t carry weight in her lower voice, even below D4. Its her “fairy” like style. She is capable of adding more body but her voice(it’s only my world) naturally isnt very heavy-she gives me light lyric vibes, so this doesn’t seem comfortable for her. Overall, i dont think her lower register is as weak as a whole lot of people claim it is. She also does sing in chest voice and is still comfortable around D5 so she isnt always singing in mix.
Yeah i mean her lows are just average at best not very weak probably stylistic, sohyang has shown to be able to belt as high as G5 when she was younger but she utilize mix way more often
@@allykelly yes
Wouldn't expect a high Soprano to have a great lower extension.
@@markhansen7998 and there are many high sopranos with great lows
@@allykelly Certainly true, but subject to anatomical limitations. In her case, knowing her work ethic, such a deficiency isn't from lack of effort or work.
Hilarious the numbers of opposing fanbase stans still allowing Sohyang living rent-free in their heads! 😂😂
👀👀👀
although she is an Asian and has to battle with cancer and pneumonia, her consistent range is super amazing
Her lower register is getting better but I guess now she is just consistent up to A5 in mix. Her headvoice is still good tho. Maybe the best singer technically currently
Look forward to Lisa Fischer's analysis too
Agreed but no need to mention her race
wait what does her being an asian has to do with it?
You're weird lol
@@mooblink4ever899 who
@@allykelly Monaco
7:56 is her best note!! Hands down 😍😍
Her voice is art itself! ☺👍
5:06 Shrillhyang era is coming😂
5:15 Mixhyang era slayed Shrillhyang era😂
Certainly an impressive vocalist, especially when it comes to her mixing and how she stays up there, phrasing and sustaining with great stamina.
Her head voice is my favorite register of hers, it's the most beautiful tone she can deliver imo.
Her dynamics and transitions are also very impressive, her overall control of her voice actually.
I gotta say tho, her lows are practically non existent and I'm not the biggest fan of her tone and style of singing, making it harder for me to appreciate her signing, although I'm certain she's great.
So Hyang simply has fewer weaknesses and more strengths than any other female vocalist I have ever come across. Her box of vocal tools just has more in it than any other. Any reason to pick her innumerable skills apart is either mere jealousy or just a kind of silly waste of time.
She's more like Korean Lara Fabian with a higher tessitura
I can see that too but she's just known as Korean Mariah Carey by people
@@allykelly they know better: weak lows, cannon-like resonant light(heady) mix, so-so headvoice, mediocre agility, no whistles - that's all about Mariah😅
@@meschyk It is strange. Mariah and Sohyang literally have nothing in common. Sohyang even has a way higher voice.
@@Ray_Aoi it's just that both of them are well respected vocalists in their countries and sohyang is also a diva
4:40 🙄 yes sure.... That's just a crescendo.
It’s still squeezed even if it’s a crescendo
It's still tense
@@allykelly not really. Her vocal chords definitely need to adjust to carry the weight from very thinned vocal chords to a more opened ones
@@asiastraineddogwillleaveyou it has weight but the larynx got pulled high and it made squeezed and very strident sound and it wasn't really opened. but it's not strained that's why I didn't label it as red
She has a short good F#3 in fancam and probably a good E6 from 2003
at least she doesn't try to low her larynx to much to prove that she can sing well in low register. Her low range is not that low but it's kind of easy to ear for me
Her lows are typical of airy and soft so yeah they can sound pleasant
I agree low notes are bad. I think her mixed voice is one of the best in Asia or even the world. Her agility is good, but nothing impressive. Her vocal dynamics are very good, I have even seen that she has done messa di voce. Good video. Definitely one of my favorite singers 💙 forever.
5:19 she also have many great G#5 in upon this rock😡
A great F5 in I Have Nothing (Luna Park Concert) a great G5 in Bridge Over Troubled Water when she sing at 05.12.2015
@@GuinevereYT you'r still obsessed with my old videos ☠️
She's the best "mixer" ever existed. Right??
One of
Check Rachelle Ferrell and Karen Clark Sheard. The latter is a master of mix and her high range has far more freedom than SoHyang's
@@thiagoviana9644 I would like to add Lisa Fischer and Patti
@@lyd2460 Absolutely. Check Melonie Daniels, a dark mezzo that can mix up to C#6. That's insane!
@@thiagoviana9644😄 I know Melonie Daniel's ( she worked with Mariah ) . She is also an amazing vocalist 😍 . Her voice is rich and full .
6:52 Sohyang : Im sorry i broke the mic
It's a good note 👍🏼
@@allykelly RIP church's mic😢
I always thought some of her upper notes are shrill and even tense so yeah but it's normal for her and she barely strain due to her light approach which is smart and i do agree that she needs work in her mid range
A GOOD ANALYSIS 👍
❤️❤️
What do you mean by work on her mid range? What sort of sound would you like to hear from her?
@@Das644 more forward and robust sound likely
Does she need to though?
Her style isn’t of a weighty singer so does she really have to?
I think her mid range is okay. Is we use robust as the barometer then she will be bad but otherwise she is fine
@@Das644 it's that it hinders her chest in developing and make her less impressive it's her style but it'd be much better if she put more effort on this area
What does gold or yellow note mean?
Decent
@@allykelly Thank you!! I love your video! Anyways her consistent sp?
@@rafaelm6181 u can read the full information on the description box 😀
@@allykelly Thank you, I saw it!
One of so hyang's weakness are her light and thin sounds...imagine a 45 years old but still sounds so thin...for me her headvoice is quite unmatched coz her voice sounds free and amazing....all singers has their own weaknesses...but still all of them are the best singers
my favorite notes were: 3:43 4:44 5:14 7:54 and 7:58
Sameeee
Jona Viray next please 🇵🇭
Filipina singer
On my list
please put caption
It will appears soon by UA-cam
3:44 gigantic resonance!!!
Maybe the most resonant Eb5 that I have ever heard
Then you need to hear the other Eb5s 😀
You should listen to Natalie Weiss' "I'm A Star" at 2:42.
ua-cam.com/video/9oN36UaZPtc/v-deo.html
@@EmviloriamE
*small resonance. Idk but to be honest Natalie's resonance (>Eb5) is always light and lack of necessary weight for me. There are some Eb5s which are better than SoHyang's one (Whitney Houston)
best resonance come from Shirley bassey, vivian reed, Dionne Warwick, Leny eversong, katerina valente, some more not even vocal trinity can rival them
@ally kelly I think Whitney and Celine belong in that list, too. Especially Whitney above D5.
i love how you’re honest! alsooo will you make a vocal analysis of tori kelly ??
and demi!!
Yesss
@@allykellyHave you done the Tori Kelly?
You can see almost none of Sohyang’s upper belts and head voice have blue color, although some of them achieved full resonance lol
Cuz they lack chest resonance in terms of which terminology?
@Ventus she has recordings demonstrating great scuro e.g. ( it's only my world, ua-cam.com/video/OYLSGh4yu2s/v-deo.html in 15:34). It's just that it's more of her stylistic preference to sound light. She has control but not much amplified. Though I'm not saying it's scuro is not much done by Light lyric sopranos, but isn't this technique is more common in spintos, bel cantos and dramatic soprano?
@Ventus That’s absolutely a delusional grandiose statement.
You are not right about twang. Twang is a necessary part of how you amplify the singer’s formant to achieve true squillo.
@Ventus I was responding to this statement:
'Her chiaro resonance is undeniably unbeatible, arguably the best in pop history. Bright and clear.'
@@KajiVocals ua-cam.com/video/KB_cIQhEDfo/v-deo.html so what’s this? misinformation?
She is the best diva of Kpop
Sorry but sohyang isn't kpop
@@allykelly but she sings in Korean reality shows like sbs ,mnet which arguably made her a part of kpop as sololist
@@Forever_2424 but those songs aren't KPop more like gospel and Korean traditional
@@allykelly ohh i see
@@allykelly she still a small part of kpop too
There's a lamb who told me that Sohyang is like the new Mariah Carey, what do you think about that? 🤔
In terms of development and popular wise they're both shares these things in common sohyang is a top vocalist in south Korea
@@allykelly I agree with this segment, but I don't really know why people compare them, cause they got different techniques despite both singers come from gospel signature and Sohyang is not that younger than Mariah.
Hi Ally! can i ask you? What your opinion about Sohyang on 2021 - 2024 era (especially on her thrill concert and solo concert)? Did she fully regress from her 2012 - 2017 era like much people say?
ua-cam.com/video/uRulfNBjsbA/v-deo.htmlsi=iDHzVz01ty1PZi4r 0:07 and 0:29 did she support the F#3 on that video?
She's similar to her younger self but only thinner
@@GuinevereYT I don't use kva but the lows were decent
@@allykelly ua-cam.com/video/cNrM2RJ93JE/v-deo.htmlsi=1v9C1Trp8fY4l1JJ 0:45 what about that F3?
@@allykelly btw you answer my comment very fast, thanks❤
There you go 500! Congrats!😉
4:15 ate
Deliciously
She sacrificed her lower register and vocal agility for those amazing belts (esp in the upper belts) and strong head voice... It's not that her lower register and vocal agility is bad, it's just decent and is not as strong as her belting and upper register... Regardless, she's a great vocalist who specializes in mixed register with a pretty strong head voice...
I'd her she specialize mixed voice not belting
@@allykelly ohhh yeah... Exactly 💯
Thanks for pointing it out HAHAHA
Def the only Asian singer who can compete with Western legendary vocalists (ofc sohyang is not on their level), even this shouty G#5 (5:09) sounds ok, not bad for me.
It's not BAD that's why I labeled it as orange not red
check out lee sun hee,she is/was the best belter in Korea and she has a operatic headvoice,she can actually compete w western singers
Who's better between her and Beyonce?
Arguably tie i suppose
Me
@@celiniac we're the best vocalist in the word actually
@@allykelly dont forget abt me❤️
@@endutzky especially u too 🤣
5:16 i think if the audio quality is clear and good, this G#5 might be a blue note?
Maybe
@@allykellyua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxmPzvQpFT95Q8L4HRP-csCiArsRdaYFFp?si=l1p__VuyTGWoCE_O
What about this B5?
To be honest, she's amazing but she's kinda overrated to be honest, people are saying her vocal agility is as good as Ariana Grande, people are claiming shes consistent in C#6 in mix while she never did a center C#6,and she "supported" an F3 and F6 but I've never heard her do it, and her lows are consistent in G3
Her lows are consistent with G3/G#3 this day
@@GuinevereYT she has solid A3 maximum. (In her prime too)
@@hinacharmbraceletera283 This day she has G3/G#3 or G#3, her low improved after her pneumonia cured
Wow, critical of sohyang and that’s fine but it does make me wonder about the quality of your opinion. Are you known all around the world with a Uber #1 reputation and have produced and analyzed the best in the business and THEY respect your opinion? Does Whitney, Celine, Dimash, Adele, etc know your name and game? I’m a total amateur but I’ve seen enough vocal professional singers and coaches say alot more good things overall than what you say on this platform. Sohyang is so much more than just a vocalist and that’s why I feel this way and sorry about attacking you if that’s the way that it seems because you stand out amongst so many and i obviously support her a lot because I’m biased and she’s my favorite.
Maybe you can sing better than she can? In the low register.
Hi there this is my channel i use my way to make contents analysis, showcases etc, i never forced anyone to agree with or sugarcoat, my vocal ability has nothing to do with my knowledge and prespective of the singers i analyze. If you prefer those coaches videos then go watch them
Thanks for the comment
LOL
@@allykelly you’re absolutely right. Apologies for this terrible comment. I was way way out of my lane. Keep your content going.
I love your channel!!💓💓💓
Thank you so much!!
I just listened to the opinions based on personal preference.
Good
I don't think you're right with your grades in belting/mixing section, mostly cause you simply graded her actual BELTS lower (cause they're indeed more shouty and tensed, cause it's belts, duh), unlike her mixed notes (which is lighter approach and essentially not even an M1 mode anymore), simply cause they sound more pleasant, but that doesn't mean they're bad, Sohyang simply switched her approach towards more light as she aged and that's why she doesn't sound as shrill as before, cause actual upper BELTING always gonna sound shrill, no matter what you do, it's not even her fault, basically any belter sounds shrill and tensed up there, cause there's natural limit for belting in everyone's voices
I mean u can see that there are no red labelled notes so which means she has no BAD notes
She has issues as i stated in the video
Some of her mixed notes were tense/constricted even as low as E5
To say all upper belts sound shrill is pure ignorance.
Sohyang sometime sounds slightly nasal when she sings in English but I don't hear it in Korean at all. Is this due to her slight accent? Someone suggested it's the same with Celine due to her Canandian accent. What do you think?
People confuse with nasality and twangy they sounds similar but not the same, I'd say there has nothing to do with accent it's just Sohyang's regular approach, Celine's nasality probably has a thing to do with accent but again I'm not sure and not a big deal when Celine has shown to be able to engage her pharynx
@@allykelly But why she doesn't sound nasal or twangy when she sings in Korean tho? Do you hear a difference?
did you watch her 2022 performance she is the best vocalist on the present time line and pls use the current performance of her rather than her 20 years old one. 🙄
I used her 2022 vocals here and there's no progress she is the same just lighter. This analysis is mainly about comparative techniques
@@allykelly okay who's better tori or her??
@@sudipwaibatamang8598 sohyang ofc even tho I'm Tori biased
@@allykelly yeah i love her too ! don't took it so seriously she's amazing tori kelly💗
I have a question. What are your criteria for each note? Like what notes you consider to be great/good/decent/average/bad?
Yeah that's my criteria
Great means that the note is technically optimal free and powerful
Good means the note is done with good technique but still has minor issue
Decent means it's has unnecessary tension/constricted but still not severe
Average means that the unnecessary tension almost take over the sound quality (obstruct)
Bad means the note is filled with extreme amount of tension or the note is too soft/weak
@@allykelly Thank You!
I never understood why people put her in such a high level, it’s because her mixed voice. She’s a master on that, and since many people seem to think high notes= best vocalists.
The hardest register to master is whistle. Belting is harder than mix to me
@UCmyDVLcXK0jV60DlOa-eTDg to me, if a person is just good at belting but with the others' registers aren’t developed, they can’t be considered better than a vocalist who has a lower register, head voice register, and riff and runs developed and grounded
@@allykelly I don’t think that’s true.
@@KajiVocals what do you think tho
Basically, the wider the treble range, the closer it is to human instinct. In general, this is the case.
Thanks for the credits
You'r welcome and love your channel too
Theres a lot of orange notes in here I prefer to the greens tbh
Love her headvoice. Could listen to 6:48 and 7:25 for years
Her hv is pretty
Thanks ally.
This is beautiful.
You'r welcome 🤗
Sohyang,Maraiah,Whitney,Celine
↑ Please rank the singing ability of these four people
Vocal Ranking :
1. Whitney
2. Celine
3. Mariah & Sohyang
Low register: Celine >>Mariah ≥ Whitney > sohyang
Midbelt : Whitney = Celine > Mariah = sohyang
Upperbelt : Mariah = Whitney > Celine >>>> Sohyang ( she rarely belt )
Upper mix : Sohyang >>>>>>> the vocal trinity ladies
Headvoice : Whitney = Celine >>>>>>>Sohyang > Mariah
Agility : Celine ≥ Whitney > Mariah >>> Sohyang
Dynamic : Sohyang ≥ Whitney ≥ Celine > Mariah
@@boppop717
Upper belt: SoHyang>Mariah
Excuse me, since when sohyang rarely belt when most of her G5s in Bridge over trouble water are sustained belts, not Mariah cannot sustain any F5s, even not consistent in F5/F#5 area lmao
Nice but Mariah has way better mid belt that Sohyang
@@monaco4895 Excuse you too, most of her G5s approach are M2 that are light , and yes for your comment that sohyang showed sustained note belts (but light) but generally speaking ,most of her G5s are MIX
Whitney of course!
Her belting might not be perfect by any mean, but u gotta love the consistency.
Again it's a matter of preference i personally find her lower range warm and inviting and while i agree it's not the strongest part of her voice to say it is weak is not accurate and again that is purely my humble opinion.
Ummm girl sohyang can die on G3/G#3 how is that not pretty weak
@@allykelly your opinion ,your entitled to it doesn't mean I need to agree with it same as you obviously don't agree with mine so who is right???
@@Peter-yj8fj well I'm talking about objectivity tho technical stuff isn't meant to be subjective
@@allykelly if not subjective how come I have watched many many vocal coaches praise her lower register.Are they all wrong and you are right???
@@Peter-yj8fj who praised her lower register? Which coaches? You know some vocal coaches aren't really trustworthy right?
Her upper mixed register is great! But she is definitely lacking in terms of chest development. Lets be honest, her lows are not good, and her mid belts sound lifeless. I enjoy her head voice, but I must admit that I overall find her tone to be quite unpleasant. She is definitely a skilled vocalist though. Her and Natalie Weiss seem to get compared frequently, but I feel like Natalie is the superior vocalist. Natalie has excellent development in every area of her voice. Would you consider doing one of these or Natalie? Would love to see it!
Natalie is better but her mid belt is also pretty light to me and let's see what I can do on her
@@allykelly , what do you think about Natalie's lows?
@@nomore9686 stunning and well developed for a high soprano
The fact that Natalie's mid belts also sound lifeless too=(). Above C#5/D5, Natalie's resonance is even lighter than SoHyang, I do not see any moments that Natalie does belting above Eb5. Sohyang is def better than Natalie as a mixer and even belter
Low - Natalie
Mid - both
Upper - Sohyang
Head voice - Sohyang
Agility - Natalie
Natalie = 3
Sohyang = 3
Please do NOT "analyze" any more of Sohyang's music. After more than 20 years of singing in every conceivable environment and venue, many times while suffering from Pneumonia, she has given you some less than stellar moments you can be picky about. You have selected many situations that, for one reason or another, distort or do not record her voice accurately. Conversely, Sohyang has given millions of us a great deal of joy by singing to us from her heart. A very rare quality in vocalists that you have missed completely. Just move on and apply your clinical analysis to someone with more material to criticize than Sohyang has generously provided.
Cheers.
Pls understand this sohyang is not perfect but still a great vocalist she has up and down moments which is pretty much normal
It doesn't take away of anything she can do with her instrument
If you don't like my video just leave definitely not gonna force anyone to agree with me
@@daveg.6820 Absolutely Dave. This "analysis" from this lady is pretty cold and calculating, and doesn't even attempt to understand why tens of millions of people around the world are her dedicated fans. Sohyang has that "it" factor, and that is her ability to communicate with her audience to the point that they are often left in tears from her performances. People like David Foster, Michael Bolton and Josh Groban go out of their way, and I mean seriously out of their way, to work with her when they are in Asia and South Korea. So why would people like David Foster do that? Because he loves her voice and her ability to connect with them on an emotional level!
Here is what David Foster had to say about Sohyang in an interview with Naver on December 10, 2018, only a week after doing eight concerts with her at Tokyo's Blue Note Club.
“I wanted to meet her very much, and I am happy to have collaborated in putting together a concert. Here is how I got to know about Sohyang. Oprah Winfrey introduced me to 'a stunningly amazing singer whose video is a must watch.' I fell in love at once with Sohyang's first video I watched on UA-cam, 'I Have Nothing.' It was thrilling, and I searched to listen to most of her other songs as well. I have wanted to meet her for a long time. She is one of the top divas I've come across."
David Foster didn't hold back praises. "Her voice is very beautiful and overwhelming, and I found her every performance to be emotionally moving and amazing. Moving forward, I want to collaborate again!"
In fact, it was Whitney Houston's own former manager who found Sohyang on UA-cam singing her 2015 performance of "I Have Nothing" and was so overwhelmed that he took it to Oprah Winfrey and Oprah took it to David Foster because it was so intensely excellent!
So, I'll take David Foster's analysis over Kelly's any day. He knows what he is talking about and does not take snippets of performances from many years ago when she was still working on her technique. (And yes you did Ms. Kelly! At least one of those snippets was from way back in the 2000s!) Or from fan cams on cell phones that can't even properly capture the sound. As we both know Sohyang sings everywhere, and I mean in many less than optimal settings with poor equipment and even when she is sick with pneumonia, because she wants to lift people's spirits regardless of whether their church can afford the fanciest equipment or staging. Keep that in mind Ms. Kelly. And do you do that? If so, can we have your analysis of your own singing in churches with far less than optimal acoustics, microphones and amplification equipment, even when you are sick with pneumonia and still learning proper technique? 🤔🤨🙄
@@ToddSauve Todd, Thanks. When I come across this sort of professional coldness, I have to speak up. I suspect that there is no singer on the planet that Ally will not eventually submit to this kind of sound engineering nonsense. In the final analysis, it smacks of meanness and jealousy. Who needs it? Certainly not music fans who can immediately recognize and delight in having stumbled onto greatness - the kind embodied in gentle Sohyang.
Cheers, friend.
@@daveg.6820 I couldn't agree more. This is so cold she ought to re-evaluate her career path. Because this isn't working on any level. She comes across as smug and condescending, even if she may like Sohyang and think she is one of the best out there. Even Seth Riggs is on record as saying Sohyang is the best he has worked with from Asia and can compete with anyone--including we vaunted North Americans and Europeans. And every major label has tried to sign Sohyang. How many have tried to sign Ms. Kelly?
@@daveg.6820 This is an analysis and critique of a vocal technique. All these other things are irrelevant.
I have a question. If I'm a baritone with a range of F2-G4 and a supported range of B2-C#4(?), is that good?
That's tough
With such range and general logic, you're most probably not even a baritone to begin with. Pretty standard undeveloped tenor range, all began from that
id say ur a tenor
This makes me confused because my support range is around G2-D4/Eb4-C#5 (if you count head voice) I thought I was a baritone but I'm so confused. My full range is around E2-A4-C6
Overall, the analysis is correct. her voice control is excellent
She has a catlike, whiney texture to her upper belts and a grating tone for me. It sounds as if she's holding her nose and using poor intonation 4:51. I think she's very solid but polarizing. She reminds me of Brendon Urie, an almost "overly mixed" vocal technique that can become twangy and whiney but still technically correct. I can see why she's very good but not for everyone.
Don't underestimate the power of twang.
3,4N views after 2 days,
she's very popular among vocalists' fans🤣🤣. I also notice that until now she has totally 5 clips analysing her vocals
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@@hankbuckley9715 lmaoooo
Love her voice ♥️♥️♥️♥️
💕💕💯
David Phelps, Park Hyo Shin, and Naul too please!
3:47 this is the only blue note in her mix In her entire career?
Tbh it wasn't blue/great it still not as weighty/chesty but it's good
@@allykelly Young sohyang must teach her old version😂
Well done expert analysis.
Let me ask you a question
Is Sohyang's current vocal
ability in the top ten?
I am curious to know
the expert's answer.
She's in a high tier currently the ranking is too complex for me to decide
Yes.
@@jung1420 Nope, actually.
You say "EXPERT" what leads you to think this person whoever it is,is an expert?am I an expert on football because I watch all the games?or am I someone who has an opinion on what I have watched.would I base which restaurant I eat in just because someone who has eaten there once said it was the worst one had eaten in just because he writes for a magazine I am supposed to think his opinion holds water.if this person is a vocal coach why would that matter,have you ever seen someone who's main job is vocal coach have a fraction of musical success Sohyang has
I don't see how sohyang is compared to mariah carey just because she covers one of her songs that's like every singer covers a mariah carey song they have completely different styles and sohyang doesn't even do whistle register like mariah ,she has a belting register like Patti Labelle or Jennifer hudson, Regine and Celine dion and jonalyn viray not really mariah carey
Sohyang is known for being a Korean MC so that's why I said it
And i wouldn't say she has a belting like people you mentioned more like Tiffany Mosley
@@allykelly yeah her too she has the range with all of them
@@allykelly I know that's why I said it confuses me and kinda tired even sohyang in a interview that she can't compare to mariah carey because obviously they have very differetly singing styles sohyang is more of high belter, mariah is a mid belter and whistler sohyang doesn't do whistle notes now if she did more okay yeah maybe but she doesn't
@@Ariii78 i think that name comes from korean people who really admire and respect her as the best vocalist in korea. So they use that MC korean version because that time they just know that maria known as the best vocalist in USA (not talkimg about the technic they use because it really different)
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I disagree with the belting part, up until F5 she actually belts (with M1), after she uses a usually very heavy mixed voice (M2)
Actually she belt up to G5 (Mx1). Mixed voice M2 can't be very heavy lol
She is at a Great level, right? Her mix and upper registers are amazing, but the lower register is pretty weak.
Also, may you analyze Lee Haeri's vocals too if you have some time? I think Lee Haeri developed her technique such as supporting her head voice up to F5. (ua-cam.com/video/_4gIEGKDB6w/v-deo.html 3:54)
I'd put lee Haeri on my list thanks for the comment ❤️
Unrelated, but what tiers do you think little mix members are?
In which terminology
@@allykelly Above average, average, etc…
@@chanelno.26 ahh u mean kva? If they're translated there it'd be
Perrie AA-P
Jade A-AA
Leigh high A
Jesy high A
@@allykellyThank youuu!!! I’d gotten really interested in them lately 😅😅😅
Also, have you changed vocal rating systems or whatever they’re called? Do you still use KVA or do have you switched to CVT or the likes? What system do you use at the moment? Lastly, how can I learn more about vocal technique?
Sorry for the amount of questions and inconvenience 😅😅😅
@@chanelno.26 i don't use both but i find CVT more respectable and acceptable than kva even tho vocal science disagree with few parts
But u can learn more about vocals by joining our group chat on insta or discord
Dm me
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She's quiet robotic 😂
Alley do you think her tessitura is higher than a typical high Soprano?
She's very much high soprano
@@allykelly yeah Ik, but is her tessitura typical of a high soprano. I feel like her voice is slightly higher than Natalie Weiss and Regine, maybe her overusage of Twang tricked me but what’s ur opinion
@Mein-fe4js thx for responding
Maybe you may analyze katrina velarde (5 octaves vocal range)
Hello
Your analysis is looking good and useful.
I have a question for you here.
Looking at Sohyang's overall vocal ability,
taking into account for strengths and weaknesses,
is there currently a better
vocalist than Sohyang?
If so, what kind of singer
would you be?
Are you asking for who are better singers? In which generation?
Yes, among the singers that are being talked about a lot these days.
Maybe it's a similar type and
generation to Sohyang.
@@jung1420 Cynthia erivo, Natalie Weiss, beyonce
Yes.
@@allykelly who's the better mixer between Sohyang and Natalie?
Thankyou for analyzing Sohyang. Udah scroll komen sampai bawah banget, ternyata orang Indonesia. Aku nggak paham tentang kind/rules of music, cuma sudah jadi fans Sohyang sejak 2018, jadi agak bisa paham dikit lah wkwkwk. Jujur, aku rasa manusiawi kalau ada kurang lebihnya manusia, khususnya penyanyi. Begitupula Sohyang. Ini mau nanggapi yang sering kritik sohyang; Sohyang selalu dibilang suaranya itu nggak berwarna (ini aku bingung, kenapa selalu dibilang nggak berwarna, dimana tendensi warna yg mereka maksud selalu jenis suara tebal dan bisa versatile (karena mereka nyebutin nama penyanyi yg punya warna, dan rata² yg suaranya tebal dan versatile); apa warna suara yang spesial itu harus begitu ya? jujur sakit hati kalau sohyang selalu dibilang suara warnanya itu biasa aja, nothing special gitu), lalu Sohyang selalu dibilang nada rendahnya jelek cenderung bad (bukannya full lyric sopran kaya sohyang emang nggak mungkin bisa nada rendah yg rendah banget kan? agak bingung, nada paling rendah utk jenis suara sohyang (yg full lyric sopran; soalnya kan jenis sopran kan banyak ya) tuh harusnya gimana ya?) lalu perihal kemampuan sohyang yang kayanya nggak sebanyak penyanyi modern sekarang (kaya whistle, growl, atau yg versatile) selalu jadi standar, kaya sohyang cuma bisa high belt doang, menang nada tinggi doang (dan signature dia high belt pula :" padahal dia bsa yg lain juga (ini hampir semua yt vocal selalu fokus ke high notenya sohyamg, ngk pernah yg lain. di IG pun begitu, paling sakit hati waktu ngecover i hv nothing, abis kena hujat perihal beda aransemen kaya yg asli dam high note, padahal david fosternya malah ngundang konser), dan selalu dibilang bahwa jadi the best singer ngk karena nada tinggi doang. Jadi, utk meraih the best singer harus bisa semua ya? padahal sohyang ini selalu konsisten, dan emang kalau dibilang ahli disitu (walau ngk banyak kemampuannya kaya penyanyi modern yg versatile, tpi dia ahli dibidang dia, bahkan diatas rata² juga). Selain itu menurutku kayanya style sohyang ini emang old style juga (aku ngk paham nyebutnya apa, cuma sohyang nih kaya penyanyi² 90an kebawah, yg dimana dia nyanyi di tahun² sekarang, jdi kaya kurang cocok sama taste/style listener sekarang), misalnya kaya pilihan lagu² sohyang juga, sohyang jarang nyanyi lagu² skrng, rata² lagu² lama, plus jujur aku ngerasa tone suara sohyang ini emang ngk bisa disemua lagu, makanya kadang banyak yg hate komen bilang nggak cocoklah, not pleasant (ini paling ngeselin), tpi kalau lagu sama tipe suaranya cocok, lagunya bakal enak banget (lebih ke gospel kalau aku rasa, sama lagu korea. tapi kalo utk lagu pop english modern, kaya kurang. Lagu never enough menurutku paling aku kurang srek, karena kaya kurang cocok dinyamyiin suara sohyang). Dan perihal overate, ini juga bingungin sih, knpa overate, rata² secara teknis berdasarkan vocal² coach emang ngakuin teknik dia itu bagus, healty, konsisten dan on the same level kaya penyanyi² legend/pemyanyi dulu (mksdnya kan teknik nyanyinya bukan famenya) dan aku jarang liat sohyamg dibamdingi sama penyamyi2 skrng selalu penyamyi² lama (dan entah knpa aku liat dia nyamyi, gayanya tuh emamg kaya penyamyi lama), dan ya skrmg tuh aku lihat sohyang mungkin udah ngk terlalu ambis (yaampun bahasanya 😅) kaya eksperimen lagu, dll, mungkin karena umur, passion dan menjaga fisik juga jadinya ngk kaya dulu, bahkan kalau nyanyi lagunya itu² aja dan jarang nyanyi lagu yg baru tpi she is still amazing☺
sbnrmyaa masih bnyk, cman takut.kepanjangan. maaf ya jadi curhat gini, tpi karena i genuinely love her as human being that dedicated herself.to.god.and people, not only a singer, jdinya suka kesel kalau ada yg downgrade /hina sohyang sebegitunya apalagi dia juga bukan penyanyi yg macem²😞😞
Terimakasih atas komentar nya ya sohyang itu salah satu vocalist yang banyak cukup di bicarakan dari segi versatility dia gak unggul soal nya dia tipe gospel sama contemporary, untuk tone itu subjektif sih bagus bagus aja, untuk teknik itu udah bagus banget cuman ya ada kekurangan juga seperti di lower register sama mid belt sama agility juga kadang pitch nya bisa gak konsisten tapi overall teknik nya bagus banget, mixed voice nya salah satu yang terbaik
Sohyang kena pneumonia dari 2016 sampai awal-pertengahan 2020, pneumonianya sampai ketitik kronis di satu tahun penuh di 2019. Terus jangan lupa sohyang juga salah satu manusia beruntung, manusia kuat yang selamat dari kanker di usia dia 21, jadi akibat itu lah fisik sohyang itu lemah, dia gak mau ambil resiko terlalu tinggi soalnya kalo dia kecapekan nyanyi, dia bakal gampang kena penyakit atau bahkan pneumonianya balik lagi.
@@allykellyIzin nanya🙏🏻 emang pneumonia yang tingkat sedang sampai kronis itu gak ngaruh ke skill penyanyi ya? Soalnya gw pernah ngasih unjuk video sohyang tahun 2018 (dia udah kena pneumonia) ke vocal community terus gw sedikit memuji sohyang soalnya dia nyanyi lean on me pakai kunci yang sampai B5 (terus pas hit sustained B5nya juga gak flat/sharp), nah tapi abis itu, ada salah satu admin vocal communitynya malah ngejek gw, katanya kalo gak ngerti mekanisme menyanyi gausah memuji, pneumonia itu gak ngaruh ke skill penyanyi, jadi gausah dibanggakan. Menurut you gimana?
It's not related to SoHyang but do you SNSD Seohyun and Tiffany improved their vocals especially to Seohyun because some said that she supported ALL of her C5 notes in the forever 1 album?
Hi! Umm I'm not sure cuz I don't really follow them but Seohyun did quite well in forever one she sounds a bit darker and thicker than usual and her C5s are so promising
5:07 what is this song? It sounds beautiful (the music but Sohyang also makes it sound good even if she’s a little tense)
Upon this rock
Too bad she didn't fully develop her chest voice
Where is the supported D6 clip from
Take your faith
@@allykelly ❤ thanks
@@allykellywhat?😂 (sorry im laughing) its from "Everyone" in her Immortal Song 2 performance, duh
5:06 not you using her debut video
Why not
@@allykelly she is flop that time
@@GuinevereYT always flop tho
@@allykelly help😭
Many notes and performances in video not her best, even very low quality. Your analysis be biased. You sound like pinoy (most of them hate so hyang badly and always bash her), arent you? Sorry to say but low-quality analysis content. Though good luck!
Well i used notes suggested by her one of her fan (I'm Indonesian) this analysis isn't about showcases it's about comparative techniques
Who takes the A4 belt between Taeyeon and Eunji?
Both
Kinda curious, since she's the best mixer in Korea, who's the best belter???? I'm better on either Haeri or Sonnet
fact: sohyang slays both of them with resonant belt G5/G#5. And to answer your question, Son Seung Yeon is better than Haeri in terms of belting
At best yes but we can't overlook that Sohyang has tendencies to tilt her laryngeal to M2 (mixed voice) ssy and Haeri has stronger column on their middle voice so those 2 take belts and Sohyang takes mixed voice
Sohyang is still a better vocalist than both tho
pls do dimash next
5:05-5:23 10 years difference 🙏
What
@@allykelly OOPS LOL LOOKED AT THE WRONG TIMESTAMP
Correction: 14 years
The first was from 2000
The second was from 2014
Im laughing when you mark it shouty i headvoice...hahah shouty? You mean when you shout you're using your headvoice? Shouty are only in chest voice
@@markcruz8952 shouty means there's a problem with the sound quality
@@allykelly then use common denominator...what is LCD of shouty? Can you guess?
@@markcruz8952 wym
Please do Chloe and Halle Bailey!’
Top vocalist of whole Asia?
She's up there
Regine, Lani, Lee Sunhee, Hanhong>>>
personally i wouldnt call sohyang the korean mariah carey,Mariah is known for her upperbelts and agility both something sohyang sucks at..but its their opinion who they call "korean mariah C"
I mean that's what she's known for its even on internet that's why I said that but to me she's a Korean Lara Fabian 😅
@@allykelly how abt korean tiffany mosley?👀👀
@@vyeagra420 that's better
Well, mariah sucks at upperbelt too 😀
@@zeff8820 her if it's over performance proves other wise
Not related but who's a better belter between faouzia and yeonji? They're both P-G tier as far as I remember
Both have their issues but I'd lean more towards Yeonji at best
Yeonji is better than Faouzia, she is a better belter and has a better head voice
@@eunjiscake7189 faouzia has better head voice tho she has Bb5s
Faouzia has
Eb3-C#5/D5-A5/Bb5 + insane agility and vocal flexibility so she's better overall
@@allykelly Yeonji head voice sounds fuller and she does better than Faouzia above C#5, her mid belts are so full too with good usage of dynamics
@@eunjiscake7189 yes but Yeonji's head voice is underutilized there are just few moments she hit G#5-A5 faouzia sang lots of Bb5s in her last touring Yeonji has dynamic while Faouzia has fioritura (flourishes). We can't overlook Yeonji can get tense with her goat and forced vibrato which less healthy than Faouzia
Not related
But I swear I heard many times that people says winter(aespa) will be able to produce resonance in the A4-Bb4 region.
But I really don't think an average vocalist can really produce "resonance". What do you think about it
Depends on which terminology u are talking about
@@allykelly I'm taking about kva terminology which seems realible to me
@@blinkot4181 to me kva isn't reliable cuz they misuse the term resonance is basically a sound, true resonance is squillo which hardly exist outside opera that we all been hearing are just ringing from mechanic, engineering tool, mic amplification sensation/reverb
@@allykelly umm I didn't knew that LoL.
Do you know what is the dark lower larynx coordination which is used by seo moontak and Kim yeonji?
@@blinkot4181 both use compression
Finally an honest critique of her without blind praise. Sohyang is a very talented vocalist and I think her voice is pretty, but it's just her fans think that she's untouchable. They often ignore her flaws. She has a great mix and her head voice is beautiful. Her issues are the lack of core in her middle voice and her chest voice being underdeveloped. People often ignore her tension issues in the higher parts of her voice. It's present in her voice so she's not perfect. Her stans always point out vocal flaws in other vocalists, but they get very upset when you point out hers.
Yeah her fans can be very rude too i had to delete some comments
Agreed. Her fans and lambs have created a false toxic environment
Sohyang shines singing gospel and her traditional Korean music. I love her phrasing in her head voice. ❤️
@@nomore9686 yes!!!! Gospel and Traditional Korean Sohyang will always be my favourite 🥰🥰😍😍