The Biggest osu! Copyright Drama
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Infamous osu! channel being removed, copyright strikes being sent, debates and many-many other things! Today we are diving deep into the another osu! copyright drama!
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Really enjoyable video and the edit is so good!
Oh hi krappe
hewwo krappe
im scared for the future of the game, I really like the FA's and all, but we all know very popular artist/songs will never be featured and most of the FA's will be mostly rhythm game artists (MIDI, DnB, Electronic, as such), vocaloids, jpop and prabably some metal, leaving behind pop/kpop, rock and some other popular genres (as expected by its popularity)
Also, thanks for the informative video, very entertaining and well edited :3
The editing on this is SMOOOOTH 🔥
Edit: still waiting for someone to map SILENT FLOWERS
you don't even play the game anymore wdym
Hiiii
It's the good song guy, love facade by the way.
The fact we’re at 400 FAs already is insane. I hope osu can be able to get more artists to their collection so they can be “official” to use by mappers.
osu needs more original music but I also love playing to songs I love
Copyright is interpreted differently by people of different cultural backgrounds.
In the case of Japan, Fair use doesn’t exist there, so many folks there treat certain game websites on the same level as music pirating platforms.
Fair use does exist in Japan. Using a song as part of an osu map is not fair use in the US, nor is it in Japan.
@@gyroninjamodderAs an osu! map, no. In an archive video, yes, it is fair use.
@@gyroninjamodder While true, there is a reason why osu! hasn't been scorched to the abyss and that is because compared to actual illegal music distribution sites and torrents, osu! is literally an oxygen molecule in a drop of water in the metaphorical ocean that is pirating music. The music industry doesn't give a shit about some tiny niche rhythm game. They care about large distribution sites and torrents that allow for mass illegal downloads of their music.
This topic needs to be talked about so much more, about how osu! is a game that's unfortunately built off of stolen music. Equally is how the osu! dev team has been trying to push osu! away from this past which is amazing (take a look at the osu! world cup tiebreaker video for an example).
"stolen music" lol, lmao even
Really good editing. Perfect middle ground between zoomer friendly and genuinely just pleasing to look at
Part of it is that the community deserved it, for years they said that they don't want their music in the game or reuploaded on YT and yet the community just didn't care. One redemption arc would be to get a_hisa as a featured artist but it will never happen, and definitely sent a message to hundreds of thousands of people to stay far away from their songs.
a_hisa did use to be a featured artist, iirc only for a few months.
This is probably the highest quality osu! Drama lore dump I have ever seen.
Patch I love you.
I loved all the sound effects! Very entertaining and informative video 🙂
Great video, super interesting !
I'm not really worried about the future of Osu! personally, as a lot of artists (me included) want to get their songs on the game, it's just that the process itself is confusing and takes many months.
But yeah, if an artist has opposed to the use of their songs in a game for many years, don't try your luck. It's their creation, and ultimately, they decide whether you can or cannot use it the way you intend, so it's always good to reach out beforehand ^^
the sound effects mixed with the editing makes all your videos so enjoyable
8:11 i like how you added exit this earth's atomosphere with a low pass here
i appreciate that many artist shows their music to the osu community, as it helped me discover all kinds of music and bangers that they are, i hope many more artists will continue to appear on the featured artist list !
I've recently seen a lot of underground or even barely known artists in the osu community being featured. And like, not really complaining about that, more power to peppy for adding them, but a lot of the more recent ones I've never even heard once and I've played the game for almost 7 years now. I could give some specific examples but since the a_hisa situation I've noticed this trend of including featured artists that aren't that well known get included. Might be that I literally do not actively search out songs and that thing is my fault
Almost every other legit (meaning using licensed music) rhythm game charges the player for a set of tracks whether it be an initial base game purchase or with numerous paid DLCs. In comparison to osu!, since it's f2p, the only source of fund that the game can use to license music from featured artists would be from supporters. This means you either take a chunk from that money to license a few well known artists, or a whole lot of lesser known artists (and I presume it would be easy for them to agree as having music in the game is free promotion as well).
Yeah I kinda agree, although big profile tourneys also bring the game a lot of attention and money too. It's a good point you made about the artists but the recruitment of smaller artists really caught my attention the past few weeks. The only issue with it is that it's up to the players if they wanna use music from the featured artist section or not. In mania at least I barely see maps with the featured artist tag. Meanwhile in std I see it much more frequently. Which further proves my statement. Idk might be wrong, feel free to correct me if I am
a_hisa and Osu! case has been documented for quite long time and most of the case the artist are willing to get their song in a game or whatever project as long they ask the artist first and if they get allowed to do so but sadly in osu!, most of these mapper that got their song ranked and get copystrikes often make the same mistakes that should had been avoidable before they start mapping which is just ask the artist first before start mapping but sadly most of them often skip that one key rule plus make it worse that some of the map here took months or more than a year to finish and got ranked or loved. witnessed the community decide to taking either the artist side or the channel side are one of the most idiotic thing I've seen instead of focus on try to solve real issue how to prevent copyright strike on osu! sadly many often don't listen and make a fuss about copyrighted song so much on social media especialy on Twitter to the point it make a good fuel for those who have deep grudge with the game and took advantage the copystrike law and you can see the consequence with the Sakura No Uta song incident as one of the damage these people can deal.
ffs man is it that hard to ask the artist to map what song you want first before mapping it? no the reverse way which has been documented ending it a very headache case peppy have to deal with for more than 10 year.
Watching the whole situation gave me an outlook that while probably biased, is still not the worst I could have.
I am fine with a_hisa copyright striking videos, however I am not fine with his handling of it either. He could have handled it better and while people would bitch and moan, most would be like "thats fair enough" unfortunately he chose scorched earth because of pre-existing bias and it blew up. He is not entirely at fault for it getting like this, but he played his parts in it. Cause of it, the goodwill we have with artists is still skewed to this day. Not the worst its been but it was alot better before September. Also doesn't help that the drama helped alienate osu! more from the rhythm game scene as a whole more now (speaking from personal experience.)
All in all its been around 5 to 6 months, we have all moved on and its whatever. I stopped listening to/playing the beatmaps of a_hisa cause of how I saw him handle it, specific users I dislike heavily now cause of them being sharks *cough* JAKADS *cough* and over all I don't pay attention to specific social media circles for osu anymore since they are le toxic.
The video was well made and mostly non-bias so it was nice to see. Keep up the good work
The editing is insanely good! I thought you had like 3 million subs. I have never seen better editing on UA-cam (I am not joking).
thank you!!! glad to hear that
I need to admit i was edging throughout the whole video, what a [Insane] Masterpiece
might be a crazy take but I hope osu stays at a similar size where it can avoid most copyright issues. I would be really sad if I couldn't play my favourite songs bc an artist said naw u can't use it
like a seedy back alley hidden away from pesky artists who want profits from their work ..
I hope osu! ends up like Limewire or Kazaa some day. Waiting for a record company to take them to court. What shut limewire down was: "copyright infringement, engaged in unfair competition, and induced others to commit copyright infringement" Tell me osu! isn't doing the same thing lmao
@@Ulve124 do you open the osu! rhythm game to listen to music while you do something else? its not even comparable to limewire, a program practically made for piracy. a program that saw no major use other than music piracy, to listen to music for free
Nowadays, it's so easy to listen to music legally and for free, that things like osu! will never impact the market again cos no one is using a rhythm game to send mp3s to each other.
the only possible argument is that peppy makes money from osu supporter, but i dont think it adds any real benefits outside from cosmetic use and *maybe* the specific mod leaderboard and country leaderboard.
I also feel like most songs on osu! come from smaller artists who actually only benefit from their music being used in a rhythm game. like someone in the comments says, there are over 400 featured artists (a number thats growing rapidly) and, when i open the recent beatmap tab, i cant see anything but featured artists.
@@Ulve124 I mean, I HIGHLY doubt any more than 5 people in the entire world are using Osu! as a way to illegally get music. Pretty sure the people illegally downloading music are using torrents for high quality distributions like they have been for over 2 decades now. I am also pretty sure music artists and the music industry lawyers are more worried about large scale illegal distribution of their music rather than a niche rhythm game played by a relatively small handful of people compared to other games and especially compared to illegal music distribution sites as I mentioned.
@@Ulve124 Torrent is still alive and well, I bought and uploaded one album so it will be preserved. Cope harder
@@Ulve124 god forbid people just want to play a free community-driven rhythm game
this editing is so smooth and playful. Hope to see you grow!
These videos are so high effort! The aesthetic alone is fun to watch again and again! Great job!
patch never fails to fill me up with his content
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Holy fuck this video alone steps up the quality standard for Osu news
For anyone that doesn't know, the copyright laws in Japan are very different from copyright laws in countries like the US. In Japan, if the copyright holder asks for something to be removed, you legally have to comply. There is no concept of fair use. The musical artist kinda had every right to do this on a legal basis and seeing how they ultimately worked together to find a solution suggests this wasn't with much malicious intent.
I'm really not sure why ahisa is so hard up about copyrighting non profit making channels that give nothing but exposure to himself but in the end we have to respect the artists themselves, rip cavoe tho i had a convo with him and he seemed really like tired of having to constantly deal with copyright
p.s. cool video cleanly edited thanks patch
The attention/exposure shouldn't come from osu!. Your argument can be made for other pirate music platforms in the past like Kazaa or Limewire (which we know how ended). The fact is that osu! shouldn't exist in it's current form in the first place. Music artists have been getting shafted ever since the internet became popular
@@Ulve124 yeah i guess that's true, that's why peppy is trying his best to get more FAs, in the end im just glad circle people didn't die forever tho because there was genuinely not even an ounce of ill intention from him
The editing skill of this man just on another level. Very enjoyable to watch, keep it up man :D
"I learned a lot of slang" is honestly a very epic response
the only good thing to come from this seems to be a_hisa learning new slang lmao
idk if this video is very chill or mrekk blew it out of proportion but its to be expected most of the community are kids mostly teens so its inevitable
edit: when i first heard about this it seemed like the osu community was folding, dying, imploding idk seeing it in retrospect and getting some context now doesnt seem like it was such a big deal
the editing is amazing really enjoyed watching it!
I LOVE your editing and song choice keep it up man fr fr
I had a thought where mods from games are getting copyright striked. I hope that day doesn't come.
a_hisa might have every right to copyright strike and not wanting their songs on osu but that's still selfish from a_hisa's part tho
this is a really well made video!!!! the editing is really unique.
damn this is a coolest document video i ever seen!, really enjoy it. i'll wait for the next sakura no uta
the editing is really neat damn good job bro
the editing phenomenal
Nice explanation, simple and fluent. Good luck on upgrading your english speaking :)
This editing is sooooooo good, not to mention all the info
loved the video man! can't wait to see you pop off even more in the near future!
Banger video, Please make more W
I have to wonder in part if the strikes are due to contracts they have with game publishers that pay for the rights to use their songs if not being outright commissioned by those companies as some kind of exclusivity deal or something.
I mean this is assuming they have some form of legal reason for doing this and aren't just being petty.
really good video, I absolutely love your pacing!!
Never I join any community on OSU! I play my OSU! peacefully I just like the drama they do and I still don't care .. but please don't delete OSU!
Damn dude the editing is so good, great job
the presentation, editing and intro sequence are illegally clean
Pretty good editing. Really simplistic and cool!
NEW VID ON MY BARFDAY WHOOOO
Epic intro
This was very nice to watch, Great video Man.
the edit quality is actually good, wtf
the editing is fucking amazing bro
Absofuckingluty unnecessary to destroy someone's years of work on impulse, when they didn't hurt your brand nor was it personal.
Love the edit style btw
osu! definitely hurts artists, they exist as a platform for pirated music and induces it's users to upload pirated music to their platform to be distributed. If youtube had 1.2million listens of their song on youtube, how many listens does his song have on osu! ? It speaks a harrowing tale of artists not receiving credit for their work. I hope osu! ends up in a lawsuit some day
@@Ulve124 You are wrong. The amount of people that have played osu! maps with a_hisa's songs and that would have stumbled upon them without osu! in an alternate reality is tiny. Overall all a_hisa striking down videos does is hurting their bottom line as well as being horrible from a marketing perspective. Btw does music piracy even exist anymore? Or, like, technically it exists but it's at a scale where all music can be listened by just typing the title to google so it's really null and void these days
@@osku388 The difference is artists collect money from youtube/spotify when their music is listened to. They don't get paid when people listen to the song on pirate platforms. An alternate reality is pure speculation, but without pirate platforms like osu!, collectively artists would have had a ton more listens. It's only logical.
It's really nasty that osu! staff made literal millions profiteering off copyrighted music.
@@osku388 the fact that i never heard this artist already tell how obsecure their creation is already
while on the other hand, Camellia, all Hardcore Tano*C members and even some select newly artist got a lot publicity and even more bias in some music competition thanks to osu! and FnF. as a prime example was Camellia, his songs were known after some obsecure DDR clone use his songs, and he start to compete and wins SDVX music competition back then, but further solidify by being cool with his songs in comunity made rythm games. now its hard to see very popular rythm game without camellia in it officially
insane editing
dang your edit so good man
what editing software do you use? this is really damn good content! keep it up!!
thank you! it's after effects
W vid boss! Keep up the good work
thank you!! 💪💓
the editing is actually fire
the Camellia jamming got me good
Might need to sub. This editing is really unique.
one of best osu channel out there, good video!
Games like geometry dash and Osu can be a reslly good promotional tool. Personally I don’t understand why someone would not want their work to be seen by many in such a way, as it attracts much more attention and has potential to direct viewers to the artists music platforms such as Spotify, but it is within their rights to remove.
osu is like the #1 way i find music, id say at least 75% of my playlist songs are songs i first heard in the game, and i listen to them on official platforms where the artist makes money!
The editing of this video is insane!!!
Holy shit your editing and graphics are amazing?? You are a super underrated youtuber that really filled in the weird gap of the osu content community tbh in terms of editing. Looking forward to future content :D
haha thank you so much 💖
@@patch you’re welcome!! its so refreshing to see new and unique content in the community, as rn its kind of just osu tiktok viral videos (u know who im talking about)or idk lazy videos. but ur vids are awesome!! Also, do you edit on After Effects? I’m trying to learn it but my pc is ass
@@zzenjiyeah it's after effects, though I know people going crazy with premiere also
@@patch maybe ill look into premiere! I do animations rather than editing commentary, but I’ll check it out :3 thank you!!
Good song choice for the intro
patch back at it with yet another banger video
Absolutely an engaging video, keep it up man!
i love this editing brooo
Let's not forget this caused a former 5-year streak #1 osu!mania player to delete his account and cut ties with osu entirely.
a_hisa should follow suit with all the other major corporations like UMG and Sony and just claim videos that deliberately play the song, that way they would earn money for the intellectual property. ive uploaded a few videos and have gotten them claimed by other parties because they are the owners of the property at the end of the day and theres no reason to fight it because its overlayed onto gameplay in a sense. striking down channels or in this case letting youtube strike channels down because you have enforced a basis to strike on command is not healthy for the artist or the community, it in fact reduces how many people from the osu community go and see an artist. i would rather go listen to an artist like Undead Corporation who just claims their music then a_hisa who lets channels be striked down for using their music.
its a wrong move from a_hisa. if it was a game where people earned money for making beatmaps or sold access to them with copyrighted material that would make sense but its freeware, their bottom line is not hurt at all by osu existing and mappers using copyrighted music. it barely makes a scratch to their reputation or potential watch time.
just my opinion on the matter (big 🤓moment). awesome video tho, will definitely be keen to see more in the future
But a_hisa music is so good I can't stop going to there :(
what if a_hisa want none of that. Why must he care about the osu! community or publicity lol, people are allowed to not care about things.
"it barely makes a scratch to their reputation or potential watch time." the irony is that this actually does the opposite lmao. in fact, osu popularize many small artist while doesn't take any resourses for this, as people say "free publicity". But when such artist trying to do such bans and copyright strikes, it only makes things worse for themselves first and foremost. Yeah, they have right to do such things, but no one says that the reputational losses will be worth it, especially when community around artist is already niche and small. However your idea with following major corps suit with just claiming videos and earn money for IP and not banning them is really great. Your generated "free publicity" gives you free money and income in the form of new fans, while at the same time you not recieve any hate or rep loss for doing very controversial things in community
well i already replied on top comments(based on likes maybe) that the fact that i never heard a_hisa despite already plays Osu! or any rythm game and youtube never recomends a_hisa music speaks how obsecure,small and unimportant his/her music is and its fan base. well maybe this drama adds new peoples to see their works,but this drama also possibly spawns haters rather than fans(possibly more toxic than that too)
@@shiro3146 true but the point is that the drama is mainly known to the already existing community, so it's very unlikely that it attract new people from outside rather than spawn new haters in an already established community of a_hisa
the editing is amazing
why am i hearing persona 5 or im having persona ost ptsd
Great video i never knew this its crazy to see
the editing is miam miam
idk who patch is but this is a patch banger
great editing and overall video!
we need more videos like yours
your edits are so goated man deserves more subs fr fr
man i love how you edit
holy shit the editing is bussin
IMAGINE OSU GETS DELETED ONE DAY BECAUSE OF TOO MUCH DRAMA, AND THEN YOU CAN SELL A PC FOR 10K PLUS IF YOU HAVE OSU INSTALLED WITH AN EXTRA AMOUNT DEPENDING ON HOW MANY BEATMAPS ARE INSTALLED
bro thought he could sneak in the worlds cripiest fries in there 😭😭😭
Really good video!
I can't express how much i leve this Chanel, is super fresh and super cool
Listen I’ve had logical stimulus in my liked songs for years.
All I’m saying a_hisa is that I really enjoy your music, but I only found you through osu
goated editing! well done
It's not moral to take someone's channel down?
You know what else is not moral? Playing a game that profits off of other people's work.
this video is insane wtf
great stuff!! 👍
Love the editing wish I could edit like thay
Imagine that this game probably got fans for the artists and then game gets dmca💀💀 (as for myself i started to listen many artists because of osu!)
oh hey! a musician that being cool to be in a comunity made rythm game!
such a good graphics dude
i mean... they could handle things different.. like write email to the uploader with "yo remove or dmca nuke".. just like how they do at osu. if the uploader dosnt react.. well let the hammer swing :derp:
Awesome vid, great edit btw :)
Очень офигенные эдиты, продолжай бахать!
amazing edit, tthank you
wtf the intro so good take my suscribe
i love this guys editting lol
Since when is the "u" in osu silent??
but that's how it was pronounced all the time?
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