DCS F/A-18C Realistic Carrier Startup Procedure
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- ** THIS VIDEO WAS MADE WITH THE FIRST BUILD OF THE HORNET**
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Welcome everyone to my F/A-18C carrier startup procedure that has been verified by hornet drivers. I used the NATOPS and experience from several hornet drivers to make the most detailed startup video. I would like to thank those that have helped me put this video together, and for those that have served our country. I did forget to uncage the standby attitude indicator so make sure you do that. Remember this module is still in early access. Enjoy! Deedle Deedle!
Notes from the hornet instructor:
-we do the control checks with the rudders, then The PC will signal to set stab trim.
-if the tail is over water, the Hook cannot be lowered as it will damage it. After the PC hands you off to the yellow shirt, they’ll taxi you forward, then give you the hook down signal to check it with the tail over the flight deck.
-JBD is a Jet blast deflector
-Spread wings typically when taxiing over JBD toward cat. I might have confused you on that one before.
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Incredible that after almost two years, this is still THE BEST tutorial about Hornet Startup on CV .. wish you could update it to include the recently released Supercarrier Module; that would make more realistic the Taxi & Launch phases of the tutorial. Greetings.
Appreciate it! I'll see what I can do
Why do some people expect super fast for a tutorial that's beind shown for people are learning the aircraft??!. Thank you for this video!
@@Stuff-is-cool im the one that busts out my notes and watches it twice lol.
@@mathgasm8484 dawg same i’ve got a second monitor just for my google doc with every pre check
Thanks a lot for this series, as I really enjoy the realistic approach, even if it takes a bit more time to get in the air. The attention to detail really shows, I’ve learned a lot :)
Yeah I am looking for the why of things at least a basic response to it is a lot for visual-hinged brains or at least not mnemonic pure approach and also for cultivating passion.
Great video for someone who is just starting out and not sure how to start up the aircraft. I enjoyed it.
haven't flown the hornet in a long time. time for a refresher! thanks!
Top notch and very professional! Thx for your work.
I know it has been a long time since you uploaded this video, but despite what everyone else said, I enjoyed it. It is nice to get a real life overview of how planes are started. Wouldn't it be awesome if DCS would implement a plane captain to oversee your start-ups for all modules. I've tried to do something like this for EOR. It's a bit plastic but it makes the experience seem that much more real.
Thank you very much for fantastic start up, this is the way is done and I'm Helicopter Pilot, we don't Rush Pre-Flight.
Wes from NJ.
Excellent video! Loving this series!
Really enjoying these videos!
I’m super late to the DCS party but this was a great tutorial. Didn’t feel rushed like others . I still need to learn the alphabet lol but you made it in a way that I was still able to follow along .
Learned some good little tidbits there. Great work man.
Perfection cant be rushed.good video sir
The start was hillarious!
Very easy to understand tutorial. Thank you!
Very thorough video!! EXCELLENT JOB
Please do a Mach 1.5 pilot ejection sequence tutorial. . . . . . . Inverted . . . .at . . . at 50ft AGL
Best startup I have ever seen!
Awesome video man.
Increadibly helpful thanks
Very neat! Much appreciated!
Your videos are really cool
Keep it up man your videos are excellent
Outstanding video
Excellent. Well done.
Your videos are always admirable😆 Cool
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Future reference you don’t drop tail hook when wheels too coamings. I know it’s just a sim but in real life we don’t drop tail hooks when parked on the deck edge. This prevents tail hook dropping on the coamings or in the nets. In this situation you would do 3 down then when ready for launch the plain captain (PC) when pass controls over to me (yellow shirt) I would give the break down the aircraft (chains and chocks) then taxi the bird forward until cleared then signal to the pilot to drop his tail hook. Just in case anyone wants to sim it right just like we do on the carriers. There is only a few parking spots that you can do 4 down and that is the line and the 4 row and the finger
Thanks for the clarification
Interesting, is that a Navy wide standard?
Nice buddy!
Great vid.
Thx for explaining ewrithing in detail 💪👍
Hey man great vid!
CW Lemoine mentioned they would put the BAT into Override first to test the A circuit. Then as you switch from override to normal it only takes about 1 second for the reset and you can test the B circuit. Saves some time.
The only thing this game is missing is ground crew interaction. I know it would be an absolute pain to implement, but damn would it be worth it!
somewhen in the future a whole carrier module is planned to be released by ED, which will supposedly include realistic carrier ops with ground crew.
"Airframes troubleshooter, switching valve blins on Nuts. On the run!"
You would need a really Really good monitor to read the hand signals of the ground crew, the number of fingers at start-up indicate which engine to start as well as whether they are starting the APU or a "Huffer". The number of fingers also indicate whether to drop the tail hook or not in a 3-down or 4-down check, so I would go blind trying to do it on my laptop.
For a company that hasn't modeled a single human character is going to be tough, but you are correct, it will be super worth it!
@@-_Nuke_- the pilot has a model tho
LOL wrong air plane ! very nice sir !
riooooooooottttt
Love that... but, it's not the wrong airplane if you grew up with this:
ua-cam.com/video/_RdE1L9jCic/v-deo.html
According to the Top Gun 2 teaser, it's the right plane.
intro = funny . not much longer , and we will have that jet!
You also have to arm your seat BEFORE you start to taxi on the carrier and they have good reasons for that, again it's in the NATOPS
Hello, Thanks for the videos. Which is switch for fuel injection on the cockpit instead using keyboard ?
I can't wait for the deck crew it will really help in VR.
Coming 2020
thank you so much for your reply, I meant in 15:09 of the video you said will taxi forward while pressing U key ,
Ok my apologies, ya you gotta press U to hook up to the cat shuttle and there is no way around that at the moment
thank you @@TrickerDCS ,
thanks!
How do you get that little plus sign to interact with the different buttons in the cockpit
Thanks
ive never played DCS but do you have to do the startup every single time?
Do u have to press alt c every time to move mouse and press stuff?
What is the etiquette for lights? I’ve seen on some boards that lights should always be off.
Great video, thank you.
If this has been asked before, I'm sorry, but how did you know how far to pull forward to the shuttle without looking on the F2 view? Thanks.
Just from experience is all :)
So what is a good speed to fly at when you're on the way because I'll probably go a little below whatever that is....I don't want to be wasting fuel....I'll need as much as possible
nice video! you forgot to mention that FCS bit must not be performed with NWS on.
30 year retired Navy Man here... For future reference... JBD = Jet Blast Deflectors... Also fun Fact... they are Salt Water cooled!
Thanks for your service
@@TrickerDCS Thank you for helping people, who may be unaware, what really does go into starting for a single plane let alone a 35 plane Strike Package.
I love doing it🤓
I just downloaded DSC. LOVE IT. Nice to get two planes free... picked up on the Su-25T rather easily.
Dr. Tankenstien nice, I need to actually get in the su25 and learn it
Super Thank you
Where does alignment of the JHMCS fit into this procedure?
Gave up after I looked up an my HUD was off I just used autostart lol very informative video though
Another Great Vid Tricker, did you get info as to why the Tail hook is not in the 4 down anymore?
Aussie Hornet yes sir, all hornet instructor notes are in the description regarding my video
How I find the catapult longituntinal trim ?? thank you for your time and video H. :)
Sir, nice video, may I ask:, how to set the takeoff trim? You changed it but did not explain how. Thanks for the video.
Just an observation, the current hornet version we have does not have GPS/EGI. Per the NATOPS Non-GPS aircraft use NAV and not IFA as the primary INS mode. The SME is used to the GPS enabled procedures, so this is currently not correct because we don't have GPS yet in this version. Great videos by the way!
Boomer12784 I can’t get an accurate answer on this yet.
Was this ever confirmed? I’d thought this was only prior to 2003?
hi, just a quick request. IF you could let me know what your frame-rate is just sitting on the deck of the carrier awaiting catapult launch, and then also the frame rate once you turn up into the sky I would greatly appreciate it. I want something to compare to and those two benchmarks will help me out greatly. (I'm trying to do some fine-tuning on my gaming sim). Thanks so much in advance if you're able to do this and thanks anyway if not !!!!!!
Im doing ever step the right way and some features on the ddi do not pop up
Great vid mate. What does sv1 and sv2 refer to on the FCS page?
Romeo Juliet Whiskey those are the different servos
Thanks for making the great video, Tricker-san. I noted and wrote down every sequences of your explanation. I'm sorry to bother you but I couldn't quite understand the setting of Take Off Trim. Is it set automatically by pressing the top of the trim knob or key in the digit on UFC?
Regards
Katsu
yep just press the button!
Thank you very much!! Have a nice flight!
i just got the game and I can't move because of the wheel chucks, how do I get the PC to remove the wheel chucks so I can move to jet blast doors?
Communications window, ground crew, remove chalks.
There is so much stuff on these planes I don't know how anyone can get trained for it haha
I did my first carrier takeoff today in an SU-33 and I got down to 6m above the sea when you said “you might even drop 10 feet because you’re so heavy” it seems impossible lmao
Ever since the OpenBeta release update for 2019. I am here at time index 7:27 because I am having stabs issues not resetting to 0 at cold start on land. Stab values always goes to 12 as soon as I take off, I can't go any faster than 285 knots, my rear flaps are point the jet up @ stab 22>. Setting to auto, half, down, fcs resets don't work. Twice I reinstalled Beta version , still doesn't work , so I watch this reinstalling DCS for May 2019. STABs - how did you input the values to 16 from 12f?
Just use your trim up and down buttons to change the values
@@TrickerDCS , I uninstalled the OpenBeta and resinstalled the DCS, F-18 flies as you demonstrated. Not sure where to find the button to enter values for trim, other than pulling aft on the stick. Now I got to reprogram my F14. Thank you for the response, do you have a link where to input trim values? Just found it from check list, hold the V key and use up and down arrows to change values of trim.
You don't "enter" the values. All you do is hit the takeoff trim button which sets 12, then you hold the trim up button until it reads 16 or whatever you want.
This was interesting, I love a game that lets you do everything as it would be. I'd be really interested to see an actual scramble procedure, surely there would be a rushed version if you have an enemy popup group 100 miles out and closing, could you do something like that maybe you have Im new.
Mad Dog Murdoch I have plans in the making for that already :)
IRL the pilots would do all these checks before hand as to get into the "Alert Aircraft" and go with only a final check, wipe out, and AO's Arm/De-Arm. so the Scramble procedure wont be as crazy as your imagining.
Hi Tricker,
Instead of holding U key is there any key in cockpit that we can use ( like real pilot?)
thanks.
It's Y but no there is not
How do I switch nose wheel steering Low/High?
There is ko key binding in controls and can't find the key in cockpit.
If you hold the nws steering button it goes into high. Also if wings are folded you will always be in high
@@TrickerDCS
Ok I see. Thanks very much. I was looking for a toggle button because hold is very silly and inconvenient.
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I ran outta fuel & crashed in the damn ocean waiting on you to start your plane bro wtf? Tell a chopper pilot to come pick me up cause if I wanted to swim that far I woulda joined the SEALs lol no bs tho this was a pretty alright video! Kobe Bryant should really do one of his " Detailed" episodes on it, it's that good!
Just as long as Shaq isn't at the freethrow line
What happen to the bounce the DCS Hornet had when launched? Looks like they have changed it.....looked more real a couple weeks ago before updates.
Ram Berto I know there is constant updates coming out, hopefully more for the better!
Can someone help me get my starting position on a carrier. I wanna do this, but I can’t seem to figure out how to start on the carrier
More fun and realistic when pitch black. Like in the real world, Wish you could control the intensity/diming of the FLT DK lights like the Air Boss for flights with night vision.
According to the NATOPS checklist before the FCS bit the flaps have to be raised to Auto and the paddle switch has to be pulled simultaneously with the FCS reset button and only then the flaps are dropped to half and the FCS bit performed. This also means the FCS bit is performed with NWS off. Is this not how it's actually done, or is this step unnecessary and NWS on doesn't cause issues during FCS bit?
Appreciate your input, remember the NATOPS is 10 years old for the C and these are updated procedures by real world hornet drivers. Not saying your wrong, do as you wish with the sim. My objective was to show how I was told to start this bad boy up.
Tricker , thank you for this much needed tutorial. Please keep up your good work. On the note of FCS BIT, can the folded wings cause any adverse effects to the FCS BIT tests ? Is it better to perform FCS BIT at the catapult instead, where the ailerons are set to move freely ?
I was told they always do it before hand in the order I showed in this video.
Tricker , Roger :-) .
Just wondering how you intoduce fuel into the engines no mention of fuel pumps being turned on and when do throttles get set to idle from the off position
he does mention it. its not like some little cessna, the hornet introduces fuel by moving the thrust lever out of "off" to "idle detent". thats what hes talking about when the IFEI RPM hits 15%. He mentions the default key combination to bring the engine to idle. In doing so it adds fuel and it will start the engine.
if you get the chance, could your pilot friend let us know what his dialouge usually was on the pre-launch check? when they wipe the controls they say stuff like "good ends, good hi's, good low's..." etc. what does that all mean? oh and thanks for making this video :)
Unless things have changed since the mid-1980s, there's little or no verbal communication between the pilot and those on the flight deck or in Pri-Fly. The Air Boss in Pri-Fly pretty much only gets involved if there's a significant problem, and the pilots and flight deck crews are trained to and used to communicating almost exclusively by hand signals.
@David Barak I mean things pilots say to themselves or their RIO/WSO. I've heard things in video games which must be based off some truth. When they wipe the controls they must scan the instruments and verbally confirm what they see
@@andI201d Ah, got it. I don't know about anything but Vikings, but the communications between the front seats and back seats was minimal - the only thing I really ever said was "lights" if the "eject" light test was good on the console in front of me, "knockers (no, not what you think - "head knockers")" when we armed our seats (we armed them by flipping a lever behind our heads) or if there was some problem that required a troubleshooter. As for the two seats up front, I can't remember what they said, but I would assume it was pretty standard stuff, out-loud ticking off items of the checklist (more the pilot than the guy in the right seat). Since we in the back couldn't really see much of what was going on (but it was pretty obvious because we were at full power), the pilot would tell us things like "wiping out the controls," "there's the salute," "good shot," just to keep us blind guys in the back informed. There was a bit of banter, not a ton, things like "Goin' for sliders after the recovery," or "Man, I took a nasty shit this morning." Yeah, people in navy air can be a bit... frat house-like, but in a good way (once the Tailhook scandal was cleared up).
One thing the ED people should do if they beef up conversational audio is to use realistic callsigns. Maverick - nope (although I did know Hacksaw, Killer and Gator), but things like Gumby, Horsehead, Bruuuuuuuce, Lumpy... (or in my case, Slo-Mo). There were also callsigns based on last names, like Smitty or Tank (for someone named Sherman). We had one guy whose two syllable name _[redacted]_rskin; I was really, really hoping they'd bestow Foreskin as his callsign but I was vetoed. And for the record, Goose's "accidental" middle finger during the pre-flight brief in Top Gun was the most realistic gesture in the film. Interesting factoid: The real world F-14 pilot that was filmmed flipping the bird was in one of our Tomcat squadrons, VF-51, the same one Neil Armstrong flew with during the Korean War. That pilot, Scott Altman, ended up becoming a Space Shuttle commander. One of our flight surgeons, David Brown, (who became an A-6 pilot _after_ he'd been a flight surgeon for several years) was a Space Shuttle mission specialist. Unfortunately, his only flight was on Columbia, which broke up over Texas in 2003.
Thanks a lot for this detailed tutorial! Do you have any plans to do an update version for Supercarrier?
Possibility with all the updated things on the hornet
@@TrickerDCS That would be awesome! Keep it up!
you retracted the launch bar right before TO? is that correct?
Correct so when the gear raises, the launch bar will be retracted already
Thanks for the clarification man. I thought it retracted when you pulled the switch, effectively disengaging it from the launch shuttle. :D
YOU TEASE!
Can anyone say me the setting for NWS switch to hi ?
question... is "IFA" implemented in DCS?
or alternatively, is drift "NAV" mode implemented (assuming it doesn't get updated in-flight thus errors should accumulate)
Not sure yet, they haven't been clear on it
rgr that
SD sc0rch Not implemented yet. Realistic INS/GPS is going to be one of the next features to be added, acording to ED.
How You get on this parking spot? In ME I can only use static objects (planes) to the specific parking positions (through the SAT view), but not my plane , Im still on the middle of the carrier. Thanks
David Lattak it's kind of a pain and requires alot of tweaking with the static planes, it can be done, but it seems to be a bug that ED is working on. Wish I could tell exactly what's going on but I'm not entirely sure.
I'd like to know this as well...
@@CakePrincessCelestia Hey, do you understand how to do it in the end?
@@bordelloparanormale4010 Haven't found out yet and TBH I'll wait for the SC module before trying to learn something that won't be of use anymore in the end.
How do you know what TCN to use and how do i find for any specific field or carrier? I’m having trouble finding that frequency. Thanks in advance!
It's set via the mission editor or if you join a multipkayer session it should be on the briefing page. LALT+B
@@TrickerDCS Thanks for the help man. Guess I should've read carefully lol
wouldn't it be easier if they just made a key fob and push to start?
One thing I can't figure out is on the left DDI I have the message CHECK TRIM and no matter what I do, I cannot clear that message. What am I doing/not doing? Thanks. Love your channel.
On the FCS page on the DDI, you should see STAB - number - STAB. Push stick trim down until it goes to 16 or 17 or whatever you need for takeoff
Dude you sound exactly like Walter Sorrels the knife maker. He has a channel look him up and listen lol.
Do you have the mission file for this setup, its cool with the planes flying over!
Negative sorry, this was two years ago
Love the intro.. lol
Ameskhan what up brotherrrr
Tricker not much.. like the vid. Looking forward to the next Hornet vid.
Can you do this also with the BMS's 3.4 F-16 please? Would be awesome.
Haha I'm not good enough in bms yet to do some instructional videos
Feeder "Buck Rogers" is F18 theme song. lol
If i put ins on ifa, the hud heading stuck. I have to put ins to nav
Yah they changed the logic in DCS, must out into nav now
Tricker But when you have to select in fly alignment?
Tricker, how about an updated startup for the Hornet on the Supercarrier? It's been a while since you did this one, and there have been a ton of updates to the Hornet.
That's a good idea
Basically, The Hornet Fact Check is valid...!! If you do all of the steps in the training cold start (minus coordinating with the real life ground crew here (Phucking Ayyyeee BTW...!!🤘) ...You essentially could turn an F-18 on in real life with no "Cautions" populated upon taxi time...!! Ha..!! 😜 I just learned where to see the nose trim inside of the cockpit vs eyeballing it via where the velocity vector is after takeoff...!! YES...!! ✊ Thanx...!! 😎
Ay lmaoooo wassup bro didn’t think I would see you here
@@FreeRangeLemon Oh Yeah...!! 🧐
You have nine tutorial videos for the little F-5 but only four for the daunting F-18. Is that work in progress?
What would you like to see specifically in the f18?
Lots of bad tutorial videos out there so if you could do them all right, including tips and tricks, would be nice. 😉
Either its some mumbeling fool that takes forever to explain the most basic things (no mentions) or it’s they skip over half of the most relevant and important stuff. (Grim Reapers)
Radio (and srs implemetation)
Navigation
Landing
A/A combat
Countermeasures
Multiplayer tips and tricks (both F/A-18 specific and general for different server modes)
En route procedures for different missions
Controls set up
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve flown flight sims since I was nine, started taking flying lessons when I was 15 and I was even a lieutenant in the army so I’m not completely lost but omg, american 80’s military aircraft were very button and numbers heavy. Swedish airforce aircraft have more automation and use psychologically intuitive symbols for presenting information. Look at the Viggen HUD for example. No wall of abstract numbers in the displays that the brain has to translate into situational awareness or punshing a hundred tiny rubber buttons during battle. It’s a different design culture. It just takes some getting used to. Numbers are exact. Lines and circles, not so much, but they give a quick picture. Imagine for example if course deviation in navigation was presented in numbers instead of the course deviation line... It sure would be exact but it would drain the brain of energy working like that for hours on end.
I'll see what I can do, nice list you got there
Why do you put the hud on the left DDI for take off?
This was when the hornet first came out and other pages weren't implementated yet
@@TrickerDCS so you wouldnt do that anymore today?
Hopefully the ED team will include full interaction between the pilot and groundcrew so we don't look like such big nerds roleplaying this shit, haha. Should be included in the Super Carrier module or, I don't see why if they went through the effort to make it for the SC in that case, reskin them and set them on the ground of airfields, marked as blue or red.
could i fly the F18 with just my extreme 3d pro Logitech joystick, my mouse and keayboard??
Sure, just won't have alot of key bindings on your joystic
@@TrickerDCS thanks for answer me
So the tcn just rapidly changes bearing and fails to load on the hud
Make sure you have the correct tacan frequency in there.