How co-governance is and isn’t working for Tūhoe | Q+A 2022

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  • @MrDarknesstolight
    @MrDarknesstolight Рік тому +6

    Just look at the towns in Tuhoe land, that is where co-Governance will get us. the Zimbabwe of South Pacific

    • @user-FUCKYOU18
      @user-FUCKYOU18 Рік тому +1

      They never signed it

    • @robintamihere4550
      @robintamihere4550 Рік тому

      Zimbabwe MAN strikes again

    • @jzjzjzj
      @jzjzjzj Рік тому

      @@user-FUCKYOU18 they live in a country where it's the sole governing document, just because you didn't agree to the law code or road code doesn't mean you're not subject to it bro

    • @jameskjx
      @jameskjx Місяць тому

      Better Zimbabwe than Rhodesia, don't you think?
      Better Tino Rangatiratanga than Kāwanatanga.
      Better Indigenous Rule than Apartheid.

    • @MrDarknesstolight
      @MrDarknesstolight Місяць тому

      @jameskjx Rhodesia was a prosperous country. And even with Apartheid had a better standard of living for the blacks than Zimbabwe does today

  • @magamike1800
    @magamike1800 2 роки тому +18

    For 7 years the millions of dollars of maintenance money has disappeared to maintain the Uwawera national park The huts, bridges and other assets have gone into diss repair and no pest control is being done. This is the future of co governance.

    • @elzelinakriek-breet3092
      @elzelinakriek-breet3092 2 роки тому

      Pest control - humans, they are the pest of the planet, destroying it and destroying wildlife. Greed on top of their list!!

    • @charleswalker2484
      @charleswalker2484 Рік тому

      What evidence do you have of this?

    • @magamike1800
      @magamike1800 Рік тому

      @@charleswalker2484 Google it. There have been many articles written about it. They have even started buring down the huts rather than spend money fixing them.

    • @magamike1800
      @magamike1800 Рік тому

      @@jwatstom They dont want ownership, they want the income and maintenance budgets.

    • @maxxamiss5386
      @maxxamiss5386 Рік тому

      @magamike1800 exactly

  • @thecurrentmoment
    @thecurrentmoment Рік тому +4

    I'm still not sure how co-governance is and isn't working for Tuhoe...

  • @namasi7070
    @namasi7070 2 роки тому +8

    "We are committed to washing away dependence on the crown."
    This is the exact opposite to what the government wants.

    • @magamike1800
      @magamike1800 2 роки тому

      81% of kiwis on some sort of govt handout. its staggering.

    • @karamiaropiha8349
      @karamiaropiha8349 Рік тому

      Yes they're wanting a one world rule aren't they?

  • @mattblack9069
    @mattblack9069 Рік тому +4

    Amazing how ownership of various lands rivers mountains harbors and coastlines have increased in number over the last100years claims that only have a modern twist to them ie non existant previously.

  • @walterkilgour5871
    @walterkilgour5871 3 місяці тому +1

    Many Tuhoe are like children, they want control, but not to be responsible for their actions.

  • @murraypatterson9190
    @murraypatterson9190 Рік тому +2

    Tamati Kruger really waffled around the point. He talked very generally about the challenges, but didn’t say what they were. I’m just left scratching my head.

  • @stewatparkpark2933
    @stewatparkpark2933 2 роки тому +6

    Tuhoe have recently burnt down most of the infrastructure in Te Urewera .

  • @Eohippus100
    @Eohippus100 2 роки тому +15

    If governance is passed to unelected leaders, Moari or not, sooner or later the populace is going to be faced with a Hitler, Stalin or Putin who cannot be voted out by universal suffrage no matter what they do. It is imperative that we do not go down the slippery slope of compromising democratic processes by having so called co governance with unelected tribal leaders, who are given the power of veto over elected representatives of all of the inhabitants of New Zealand

    • @jamesbarnes6561
      @jamesbarnes6561 2 роки тому +3

      Co governance is a measure of reinvesting what was violently stolen from Maori . The people who have commented previously I would question whether they know the factual history of their own country. The government is too feeble to give it back so pesky co governance it is for now.

    • @magamike1800
      @magamike1800 2 роки тому +3

      I am fairly sure it is a done deal. we are now 3 years on from he pua pua. i doubt the next election will be free and fair.

    • @magamike1800
      @magamike1800 2 роки тому +4

      @@jamesbarnes6561 When democracy falls, which looks inevitable now all of New Zealand will lose. Even the tribal elite will rule over ruins when they could have kept their snouts in the trough of ongoing full and final settlements. But that was not enough.

    • @southpacific222
      @southpacific222 2 роки тому +4

      @James Barnes
      What a load of Rubbish. Two wrongs don't make a right!
      Equal suffrage is a human right!

    • @nextelectionwereverseitall
      @nextelectionwereverseitall 2 роки тому +1

      not true. most if not all dictators are elected.

  • @bennconner1195
    @bennconner1195 Рік тому +2

    Māori are subjects of the crown not partners.

    • @jameskjx
      @jameskjx Місяць тому

      hah haha hah.
      someone else who, it seems. cannot read.
      the text of the treaty is brutally clear.
      white settlers are subjects of Māori under Tino Rangatiratanga.
      Māori and only Māori government the country for the Queen as part of the Empire.

  • @jackiejackie3183
    @jackiejackie3183 2 роки тому +4

    Let's not pretend that DOC does a great job.

  • @marlifords4026
    @marlifords4026 2 роки тому +4

    The Ureweras is Tuhoe's, Tuhoe should have had it given in whole back to them. Disgusting.

  • @grantdixon5253
    @grantdixon5253 2 роки тому

    Family First were hard done by unfortunately.

  • @raybreeze2841
    @raybreeze2841 Рік тому

    17@ Of them hopefully settlements treaty can be settled so taxpayers no giving these bloggers money

    • @robintamihere4550
      @robintamihere4550 Рік тому +1

      Ray Breeze is that your real name.
      Mate you have been sucked in by the misinformation MILL of the State, believing everything sets you off half cocked.

  • @zypheralexander837
    @zypheralexander837 Рік тому

    Machine language is not a legal language in new Zealand.machine language is used in computer systems.there is your answer now take them to court.there is 3 legal languages in new Zealand they are te Reo, sign language and plain language 2022.research and get all the facts then you are free.God bless.

  • @leshowe8028
    @leshowe8028 Рік тому +1

    Fill the crown dept with Maori then you're on level footing.
    Mana Maori motuhake

  • @whatthe6532
    @whatthe6532 Рік тому

    Eco village didn’t look very eco. Lots of concrete and treated timber.

  • @marsspacex6065
    @marsspacex6065 Рік тому +2

    Stop the ethno state I’ve seen in this in other countries and it always leads to disaster.

    • @user-FUCKYOU18
      @user-FUCKYOU18 Рік тому

      It never happened, probably in your wet dream

  • @ourpeople-g7r
    @ourpeople-g7r 6 місяців тому

    It´s great to see maori arguing amongst each other. Greedy to get the biggest piece of the pie. The Tuhoe people complained and complained and demanded and demanded and the government gave them 25 million ............then they started arguing amongst themselves over the money😂😂😂😂😂 Classic entertainment😂😂😂😂😂