I am not good but u should attack basic attack more than aqua tail at the start bcz it just does very low damage and u are very vernuable at that movement
I would trade like 30% of Aqua Tail's damage for either some sustain/shield behind it, the ability to not be cancelled by the slightest micro stun, or even just slap Hinderance Resistance on it so only knockbacks/knockups cancel it. While they're at it, split Waterfall into three separate clicks for all three dashes, rather than have the 'Rampage' style move we have now.
all they have to is make aqua tail simply turn your next basic attacks do more damage and do a tail slap animation to do increased range, almost like the opposite of how dragonites outrage works turning it's ranged autos to melee, for gyarados it could turn its melee autos to more mid high range either that or make him unstoppable
The thing really holding this Mon back is honestly the way to evolve, you basically have to get lucky with a kill in the early game or else you’re magikarp till 7:00 minimum. Then if Waterfall was changed to be three separate clicks of the move button it would honestly work, maybe remove 1-2 of the water slashes on aqua tail in return for some shield or something and it would be a good Pokémon
The evolution mechanic is fine, it literally fits with Magikarp lore. The problem is that the payoff isn't as big when you got janky moves like Aqua Tail.
Forgive me if I'm wrong since I haven't played the character yet (Gem locked releases be damned) but it kinda looks like some of the "Aqua Tail is so bad!" moments in this video we're moments where the move was being used incorrectly. It looks to be more of a team fight poke/secure move, rather than a diving move. When it's used as a poke move in team fights, (3:09 and 8:19 for example) it actually preformed really well, especially for picking up kills on squishies! But when it was used for diving, (4:05 and 5:31 for example) it performed vary poorly. Often either getting stunned out of, or just flat out killed. Again, haven't gotten the chance to actually use the character yet, but just by looking at it, it looks like it'd be better used for dealing poke damage at range or picking up low HP targets, then using Waterfall or Bounce as a disengage. I'm not trying to say anything about Cris as a player, but you can tell based off his opinion on Dragon Breath (The more diving based move) that he prefers to use this character for diving, which would explain why Aqua Tail feels so unnatural to him.
And the thing is that due to New Year we won't see a balance patch until the 11th of February because there's most likely no one on the office and the game is on auto mode after Metagross nerf so unless the situation is really really bad, this will be the state of Gyarados for a while.
Well, this is further proof that Aqua Tail is laughably bad, not because of damage but because it is easily cancelled by a stun. Dragon Breath is good tbh but with their history, I can expect a buff sooner rather than later or by next season.
I don't think Aqua Tail should force you to move in the direction of fire, but I also think it should heal you if you hit it, similar to Cram Air Slash.
Aqua tail needs a ton changed: designed to somehow integrate with waterfall, longer duration when you can use the final hit, maybe sustain or something. The only time I could imagine it being used is if your running tankier items along with exp share (since majikarp doesn’t evolve with experience anyway) as a tank build.
For everyone wanting to try it wothout paying I recommend going to practice so you can get a feel for it I played all the builds and I think bounce and dragon breath is really good waterfall is cool to but I had a Lil bit more fun with bounce even tho the move is kinda ass. Besides all that aqua tail is so bad yeah it has good damage but I think it should push you back instead of front might be a good sneak attack move from bushes
I can't help myself to think that if dragonite wasn't already in unite his mooveset will work perfectly for gyarados... A range zll rounder with different basic att effects, Dragon dance Ultralaser and waterfall (e speed like) and a whatever moove for outrage, with the unite being a miw of the two 🙄 damn the game design of the gyarados we got is bad... Rework please
Seems like aqua tail could do with a slow or slight knock up or something to keep the opponent from just walking away. Or make it uninterruptable but u can't move.
Yea i think watefall is good but aqua tail does look awkward, it looks like one of Sableyes moves where you get a different hit box throughout the move.
do you think bounce dragon breath is better actually ? i saw a lot of people always going with aqua tail + bounce and dragon breath + waterfall but i feel like the opposite would have better synergy
I think so. Waterfall stops you from basic attacking which means if you dragon breath before using waterfall you basically wasted your attack speed buff.
Right now Aqua Tail is unplayable. Against high damage teams you die from all the incoming damage because it doesn't have self-sustain and against teams with a lot of cc it just getting cancelled every time.
Gyrados needs rework, which it needs a move style like dragonite, rain dance that can enhance hydro pump and/or like blastoise which can cc enemy team like whirlpool with damage skill like crunch or ice fang.. .and magikarp is just there for the meme.. honestly gyrados gameplay design is the worst in pokemon unite history
You used it in the wrong way, you are supposed to use both waterfall and aqua tail at the same time to double combo hit the enemies and it gives so much maneuverability during a fight because both of them are slight dashing moves. And plus, you can use the waterfall movement to help hit the second phase of aqua tail because it forces you to stay still if you use it normally.
Yes, meteor mash if you are going against more squishys, gyro ball if they are more tankier, magnet rise and zen headbutt are both good but since gravity clefable is a thing I would recommend going magnet rise
I just don't get why you'd ever play Dragon Breath over something like Garchomp, Mewtwo X, Outrage DNite, or even Night Slash Meow. It feels like a worse version of all those characters in every way.
Final aquataill cancels so fast if you don't use it quickly(while using it). I also dont like how aquatail pushes gyarados forward. But main reason i won't recommend anyone buying it is magikarp and level up gauge it is too outrageous.
Ppl like you are always trying to spread misinformation. Aqua tail is busted you are not able to play it properly. It’s easily getting 100k + it’s a great move with high damage and lots of charges. I know you are just saying it’s trash so devs buffs it and streamers can get “broken 199k dps” thumbnail. Really u are just being over dramatic
Dragon Breath on the other hand is amazing look forward to my last video of the day!
Yes u are absolutely right 👍 I had a poor experience with aqua tail but bounce is better than waterfall
And if u wanna look weird basic attacking us dbreath 😂
I am not good but u should attack basic attack more than aqua tail at the start bcz it just does very low damage and u are very vernuable at that movement
I think U need full heal for aqua tail and run away with bounce if needed. But feels very bad that U can't even eject during aqua tail...
I prefer dragon breath waterfall
I would trade like 30% of Aqua Tail's damage for either some sustain/shield behind it, the ability to not be cancelled by the slightest micro stun, or even just slap Hinderance Resistance on it so only knockbacks/knockups cancel it.
While they're at it, split Waterfall into three separate clicks for all three dashes, rather than have the 'Rampage' style move we have now.
Separate hits can also help aqua tail a lot. In fact it would help aqua tail more than waterfall.
You can combo it with Dragon breath but it take some skill to hit the other waterfall afterwards
Yeah, they should make it like dive Cramorant...
Having three separate waterfall charges seems op imo. At least with that amount of range
all they have to is make aqua tail simply turn your next basic attacks do more damage and do a tail slap animation to do increased range, almost like the opposite of how dragonites outrage works turning it's ranged autos to melee, for gyarados it could turn its melee autos to more mid high range
either that or make him unstoppable
Making him unstoppable seems stupid, i think if it gave increased range on autos and each auto applied the wave damage it'd be good
I'll make sure to remember this in a week when it's for coins and not money
That’s when they are gunna emergency buff gyrados as well so he’s broken, that’s always the perfect time to throw coins at a mon
Wait its for coins? Yay everyone can buy him :3 even notrich people
@@clacktloc5816 Are you for real 🙂
@@LUCIFER096 obviusly, he said "coins" os obviusly he's talking about the Game coins ..the ones who can gain playing ❤️
It will probably get a slight buff before turning into coins
The thing really holding this Mon back is honestly the way to evolve, you basically have to get lucky with a kill in the early game or else you’re magikarp till 7:00 minimum. Then if Waterfall was changed to be three separate clicks of the move button it would honestly work, maybe remove 1-2 of the water slashes on aqua tail in return for some shield or something and it would be a good Pokémon
The evolution mechanic is fine, it literally fits with Magikarp lore. The problem is that the payoff isn't as big when you got janky moves like Aqua Tail.
Forgive me if I'm wrong since I haven't played the character yet (Gem locked releases be damned) but it kinda looks like some of the "Aqua Tail is so bad!" moments in this video we're moments where the move was being used incorrectly. It looks to be more of a team fight poke/secure move, rather than a diving move. When it's used as a poke move in team fights, (3:09 and 8:19 for example) it actually preformed really well, especially for picking up kills on squishies! But when it was used for diving, (4:05 and 5:31 for example) it performed vary poorly. Often either getting stunned out of, or just flat out killed. Again, haven't gotten the chance to actually use the character yet, but just by looking at it, it looks like it'd be better used for dealing poke damage at range or picking up low HP targets, then using Waterfall or Bounce as a disengage. I'm not trying to say anything about Cris as a player, but you can tell based off his opinion on Dragon Breath (The more diving based move) that he prefers to use this character for diving, which would explain why Aqua Tail feels so unnatural to him.
I think you’re on to something
good analysis 👍
And the thing is that due to New Year we won't see a balance patch until the 11th of February because there's most likely no one on the office and the game is on auto mode after Metagross nerf so unless the situation is really really bad, this will be the state of Gyarados for a while.
**runs in to a 1v4 with the enemy team**
“Man Aqua tail is so bad”
🤣🤣🤣
Here we go more trolls
true but still the move is not that great😅
Well, this is further proof that Aqua Tail is laughably bad, not because of damage but because it is easily cancelled by a stun. Dragon Breath is good tbh but with their history, I can expect a buff sooner rather than later or by next season.
It has so much potential but it’s missing some healing and stun resistance
Why is the attk spd build always better?
ik that's much to make this move good but it's necessary imo
Even with Flash Cannon Duraludon, you slow down your enemies and you can move with Dragon Tail, Aqua Tail just feels bad to use in general
Bruh The level 9 mew at the 2-minute mark was still more threatening than your Gyarados.
That's rough.
I don't think Aqua Tail should force you to move in the direction of fire, but I also think it should heal you if you hit it, similar to Cram Air Slash.
Aqua tail needs a ton changed: designed to somehow integrate with waterfall, longer duration when you can use the final hit, maybe sustain or something. The only time I could imagine it being used is if your running tankier items along with exp share (since majikarp doesn’t evolve with experience anyway) as a tank build.
For everyone wanting to try it wothout paying I recommend going to practice so you can get a feel for it I played all the builds and I think bounce and dragon breath is really good waterfall is cool to but I had a Lil bit more fun with bounce even tho the move is kinda ass. Besides all that aqua tail is so bad yeah it has good damage but I think it should push you back instead of front might be a good sneak attack move from bushes
man it starts with everyone saying the mon is trash and needs buffs
Then the devs overbuff the pokemon
Happens all the time
Like they did mimikyu play rough
Ok then what about Blaziken and Meowscarada?
blaziken is overbuffed
and meowscarda got buffed too, but its still balanced @@XParasiteOctoling
@@rexabysswhat you said, out of every buffed new release meowscaradas the only one thats not overtuned lol
@rexabyss how is blaziken overbuffed? Just curious your take
aqua tail either needs a def buff like blaziken or to heal every hit either or
and its be good cause the damage is there it just leaves you so open
I can't help myself to think that if dragonite wasn't already in unite his mooveset will work perfectly for gyarados... A range zll rounder with different basic att effects, Dragon dance Ultralaser and waterfall (e speed like) and a whatever moove for outrage, with the unite being a miw of the two 🙄 damn the game design of the gyarados we got is bad... Rework please
I'd love to see waterfall move like DDance.
Yeah and the waterfall mecanics became basic att effects : 1 boosted damage 1 stun and 1 shield
Timi after seeing a Dustbin in the thumbnail, ITS TIME FOR SOME 🚨EMERGENCY 🚨 BUFFS
Seems like aqua tail could do with a slow or slight knock up or something to keep the opponent from just walking away. Or make it uninterruptable but u can't move.
Hit a level 4/5 evolution a few minuets ag that was fun I ran energy amp, weight and charging charm was decent was 17 ko's
It doesn't need to be unstoppable, just not interruptable (like Greedent bullet seed before it was bugged).
seems silly that waterfall has to hit all 3 times to throw someone. the 3rd dash should always throw imo.
Yeah I mean imagine if Water Bear had to deal with that 😢
IM SUPPER SURE that the aqua tail is bugged because its no reason u should send out ONLY 1 aqua tail wen u waterfall
Water fall seems like a repositioning tool for aqua tail just like the flash cannon and the other move
You know it's bad when Chris has to repeat himself
I had similar opponent mew helping me farm today so he switched to solar beam, electroball is also great for last hit.
I think Gyarados' auto attacks should work like Greninja's. Also, like you said, there should REALLY be sustain on Aqua Tail 💀💀
Mew and Gardevoir just kept zoning you out
Yea i think watefall is good but aqua tail does look awkward, it looks like one of Sableyes moves where you get a different hit box throughout the move.
Damage looks pretty good. Just need some lifesteel. Maybe draincrown does work idk
if youre supposed to be able to use aqua tail 3 times during waterfall i actually think it would be really fun lol
It should have unstoppable or more range or some sort of micro stun
Honestly, it should give hinderance resistance
Aquatail is like stone edge. they put your pokemon at stationary, and it looks bad
Aquatail needs the ability to stop bullets, like Zacian's Metal Claw
aqua tail and bounce both force you to stay one spot lol
do you think bounce dragon breath is better actually ? i saw a lot of people always going with aqua tail + bounce and dragon breath + waterfall but i feel like the opposite would have better synergy
I think so. Waterfall stops you from basic attacking which means if you dragon breath before using waterfall you basically wasted your attack speed buff.
Blissey not having exp share is dirty work
That mew did everything in there power to not get the last hit
full heal is a must have when you play aquatail
Right now Aqua Tail is unplayable. Against high damage teams you die from all the incoming damage because it doesn't have self-sustain and against teams with a lot of cc it just getting cancelled every time.
I feel like the second part of aqua tail should have been the only part of tail probably would have been better and more fun.
It's gonna be overkill after few days....
We played together today and you did 150k on gyara. Looking forward to be on youtube 😂
Regardless of how bad you think Aqua Tail is, it's still better than Stone Edge.
Aqua tail looks line stone edge
Aqu tail is not good into mew, and garde. They have to much burst for you to be in one spot
Gyrados needs rework, which it needs a move style like dragonite, rain dance that can enhance hydro pump and/or like blastoise which can cc enemy team like whirlpool with damage skill like crunch or ice fang.. .and magikarp is just there for the meme.. honestly gyrados gameplay design is the worst in pokemon unite history
Aqua tail gotta be the worst move in the game LOL
You used it in the wrong way, you are supposed to use both waterfall and aqua tail at the same time to double combo hit the enemies and it gives so much maneuverability during a fight because both of them are slight dashing moves.
And plus, you can use the waterfall movement to help hit the second phase of aqua tail because it forces you to stay still if you use it normally.
Waterfall cancels aqua tail
Vice verca
@@Skeletonpie. yes ik, what i mean is that you use waterfall to get close and immediately aqua tail, and dont do autos in the middle.
@@CarterLam1014 if you get close you are more likely to get stunned, therefore canceling your move
@@Skeletonpie. thats literally every move from this Pokémon, can't do much about that since this is a melee mon with any cc resistance or cleanse.
Aqua Tail seems to work great for me. Yall are running the wrong items! Aeos Cookie, Attack Weight, Rocky Helmet = God Mode
No not the coll moveee
Bro Aqua Tail is honestly so garbage, it needs a healing buff and heals exactly like how Azu's Aqua tail works.
Next to Mewtwo, Gyarados has the most boring, unimaginative, unfun moveset, not only that the evolve mecanic drags him even more.
Oh yeah all the auto ranged attackers just holding down b for 10 minutes is SO FUN stfu kid
Is metagross still good cause i just bought it
Yes, meteor mash if you are going against more squishys, gyro ball if they are more tankier, magnet rise and zen headbutt are both good but since gravity clefable is a thing I would recommend going magnet rise
@@Turtlecommitscrime thx bro
you know it real garbage move if atk speed boost is better
Ngl Aqua Tail feels very unintuitive to play
It just looks and feels so... Clunky. First time they really messed up animations and gameplay imo
This move is just stupid, they need to fix it soon
So sad how they ruined my favourite mon not just aqua tail none of its moves feel fun at all i was gonna main it but now sadly not 😔
Or maybe just don't play Gyarados in general, because Dragon Breath is even worse. Lol, I don't care it it stuns with Bounce. That's awkward af.
maybe check out my latest video :)
I just don't get why you'd ever play Dragon Breath over something like Garchomp, Mewtwo X, Outrage DNite, or even Night Slash Meow. It feels like a worse version of all those characters in every way.
Here is a tip: if you want to prove a build is bad,you have to lose
aqua tail has a global win rate of 42%...
It's worth to buy Gayarados? CRIS
Don’t buy it yet
Nah
No😂
Lane Cinderace is better thsn Gyarados
Azumaril Aqua Tail >>>>> Gyarods Aqua Tail
Final aquataill cancels so fast if you don't use it quickly(while using it). I also dont like how aquatail pushes gyarados forward.
But main reason i won't recommend anyone buying it is magikarp and level up gauge it is too outrageous.
Gud🎉
It’s not even bad, it’s clunky, awkward, and weak. Which is even worse
110% agree aquatail is so bad
This Pokémon is just horrible the moves aren’t just meant to be played together
Ppl like you are always trying to spread misinformation. Aqua tail is busted you are not able to play it properly. It’s easily getting 100k + it’s a great move with high damage and lots of charges. I know you are just saying it’s trash so devs buffs it and streamers can get “broken 199k dps” thumbnail. Really u are just being over dramatic
u play literally ntg for first 2 mins and then u dont have any form of hp recovery also nice worst mons ever designed
Waste move
Nah dude this Pokémon is just bad bad moves and boring
Sad what they did to one of the most iconic Pokemons
If this not palworld this is trash 🥱
If this not palworld this is trash 🥱