Thank you so much for going through all the sounds. That is such a gift to those of us who want to know what this machine is capable of ... especially because of the price. Great review!
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I appreciate your videos actually,. I’m watching a second video now so forgive my ADD if you answered this,. But which SY of the series needs the pickup man. Thanks for any confusion you’ve helping us to eliminate. And good job man.
The SY1000 and GM 800 require a pickup. The SY200 and SY1 do not require a special pickup. The GR55 also requires a special pickup. The GM 800 requires the new GK5 version of the pickup where is the rest that I mentioned only require the GK3.
@@GearSounds thanks for your help and efforts. Don’t strain at the stool, your cool man. Have you tried midi guitar 2? And how does it compare with the GM-800 and the SY-1000)
@@manifestomode1 You're very welcome. I will always strain to bring you the best answers and videos. Yes I have tried the midi guitar 2 and by no means is it a replacement for the gm-800. However it does replace other synth pedals like the sy-200 that do not use a multi track pickup. Since it lacks a hex pickup you will not be able to play chords with any amount of accuracy. However, single note stuff has nearly caught up to the hex pickup single note stuff. In other words, for solos yes the midi guitar 2 is great and a solid option. For any chords, including diads or two note chords, the hex pickup will be superior.
Hey, really enjoy your reviews and sound tests on Guitar Synths. I just wanted to point out that the SY-1000 has a "Manual Mode" that turns all the push buttons (except bank up/dn) on the the pedal into "Stomp Mode". This function has been available on several other pedals and I wondered if you could maybe investigate the potential on the SY-1000. Keep up the good work
Unfortunately I have the opinion that the SY1000 is now outdated and I will no longer be making videos on it. I believe that the GM 800 in combination with the GX10 and a small looper is all you need.
The GR55 is the pedal you're looking for. This pedal uses wave based synthesis and has ZERO real instrument sounds. You'll find that with PCM synthesis in the GR55. I have a video of that here. ua-cam.com/video/F4pDv-HQpiw/v-deo.html
You're very welcome, I'm glad you got so much enjoyment out of it you subscribed. I have new synthesizer videos coming out every week on Sunday morning.
After going through a lot of your videos and from other channels... I'm still confused. GR-55, GM-800 and SY-1000...i know they're meant to do different things, but in your opinion, which one is ... let's say, best bang for your buck? which one has less troubles, i.e. latency, phantom sounds, etc. etc..?
That is a very tough question to answer, I would say the best bang for your buck is the SY1000. However I would also say that the best synthesizer itself is the GM 800. The GM 800 with a good multi-effects unit would do everything that the SY1000 does and so much more. Plus the tracking on the GM 800 with the new GK5 pickup is superior to the SY1000 or GR55. I would say the GR55 is too outdated to compare to either of these units. However that is my personal opinion as there is no blending function available with the GM 800. That being said I have a tutorial here on the channel of how to use the GM 800 properly.
Hello Mark, thank you for your kind words and thank you for your subscription. What would you like to see next on the channel? New video coming this Sunday as I just went monthly!
I will definitely do so but I first have to cover the sy1 as that got 10 times the views and people seem to be interested in a pedal that they can afford. Lol. I will be producing more in-depth Sy 1000 content as well as tutorials. You're very welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for your subscription.
This is the number 1 question. The gr55 is what you are looking for if you are trying to replicate other instruments. That being said it has plenty of flute like sounds as it is actually trying to replicate a real synth. It is using a different type of synthesis called wave-based synthesis instead of PCM basis so it's not triggering sounds but actually creating sounds as you play a note.
Also, I’d like to hear - and I know you’ve already done a lot for your viewers - but I’d like to hear what a person who isn’t planning on going full midi pickup can expect to get out of this. Some presets etc that we can look forward to
I should have tested what the non midi pickup sounds sounded like but from what I was told it was just a few hand picked SY-300 sounds. So basically it is an SY-300 with GK pickup capabilities. The sounds in my video are only with the pickup, they didn't have a guitar without it so I couldn't test that for you guys. However, I did answer that I hadn't tested palm muting either.
I hit that play button and went on listening and after almost an hour I realized it is not your GM800 video but your SY1000 video!! so this one is quite impressive!! which one do you think is more versatile??
I can't believe you watched that long without realizing that lol. That being said the SY1000 is definitely more versatile for sure because you can use guitar tones and essentially use it as a multi-effects pedal. It has a lot of the effects that you need whereas the GM 800 is very limited on the effects you can use. The GM 800 is a better synth tone but offers no guitar tones whatsoever. They really are different units but I think the GM 800 set up properly is the ultimate Guitar synth. Check out my video on the two cable method for more of what I mean about setting it up properly.
@@GearSoundsyes, haha, it's because I've seen them alternated, and this time I didn't read carefully, just clicked on the miniature haha. The 2 cable method video I have already watched, very good!
Thank you for watching the two cable method video, I'm glad you enjoyed. What do you think I should do next with the GM 800? I haven't had such a dedicated fan base before so I'm very excited. 😊👍
This unit is intended to be Wave based syntehsis meaning it isn't based on real sounds. It creates new sounds. For pcm based syntehsis (acoustic piano etc) you'll want the GR-55. A unit that is quickly showing its age now but works with this pickup as well.
Great review.!!! The only thing is that many of us guitar players use the PCM sounds... and I don´t see how the new GR 55 is taking so long... As Brock Davisson says... A new SY300? that is an already great guitar synth. Can´t help feeling down... disappointed... There´s been no update for the GR 55 in more than 10 years !!! Gear Sounds, I appreciate if you can bring a little news for the next GR... good job man...!!!
I am with you on the PCM sounds but from what I hear this is an amazing substitute and allows for better tracking and to do things like bends and slides. You can't do that with PCM sounds. I don't think they will update the GR 55 as I think this is actually superior. I will ask my boss rep about any updates to the GR 55 right away and reply to this comment. I am glad you enjoyed the video and I'm happy there are so many guitar nerds out there like me.
@@GearSounds Well... I can accept that it is a great product with the improvements about the tracking and bending... but let me try to explain... and hope don´t missunderstand me... I´m a working guitar player in a classic rock band. I used to play the strings and horns in Comfortably Numb, the brass in I feel good and Silly love songs, even played the saxophones in Hit the road jack. and I could solo with sax, violin and harp, and they do bending... I worked my ass off to play Vehicle, hammond on Black magic woman, and many more songs.... and all those sounds came from a little GR 20 even with its limitations... The only instrument unplayable was the piano because the lagg of the tracking in the 5fth and 6th strings and the bad sounding piano... I need all those sounds to sound as close to the real things as possible... have you heard all those instruments in the Yamaha Genos? the violins, horns, nylon guitars, even electric guitars..!!! they are awesome...!!! unfortunately, I´m a sloppy keyboard player... I guess that´s the purpose of the guitar Synth... to bring all that power to guitar players... It seems that Roland abandoned the product or the players... maybe it had not the commercial response they expected... I don´t know... but these days you can´t give yourself the luxury of giggin´with a bunch of guitars, acoustics and electrics and keys... we need to be as compact as possible even with what the high costs implies... like playing with in ear monitors instead of the big bulky and heavy stage personal deafening speakers, you need to be competitive, get gigs, keep you equipment light. I have several years now looking to the Fishman triple play, wireless, pretty controller, instead of the old, bulgy and ugly GK3 that roland hasn´t change in guess 15 years...? 15 YEARS..!!! With the Fishman maybe I could Buy a Yamaha MODX 61 as a sound module... but I would feel really ridiculous on stage... I´m a loyal boss fan but Can´t wait any longer... maybe if I go to the shrink...
I would get the GR 55 if you are looking for exact replications because I didn't hear any convincing replications of real instruments in the SY 1000. It was more for pure synth tones. No I have not heard the yamaha genos, I will have to look into that. Yes I don't think it had great success or they would continue to sell it and update it rather than making a new product. Haha you don't have to go to the shrink but pick this up from guitar center when it comes out. I don't think you'll be let down.
MASSIVE DIFFERENCES! These are TWO different beasts. The GR-55 makes sound effects that replicate other instruments. THe SY-1000 is a different type of synthesis all together. It is wave based synthesis rather than PCM based synthesis on the GR-55. If you want piano sounds get the GR-55, if you want a TRUE synth with sound shaping abiities and better tech, get the SY-1000. Both need the GK-3 pickup. I hope I earned your subscribtion.
I figured that out in editing and I damn near kicked myself in the face. However, I think I did the best I could with the time I had. I was flustered because it was the last day of Namm.
This isn't pcm synthesis (sound effects triggered by your guitar and adjusted for pitch). There are zero sounds on this meaning not a single instrument. That is what the gr55 is for. This is wave based synthesis and or, a real synth. It makes genuine tones on its own like a real synth so the sounds you hear are what is intended.
Hello Nicola, I answered your question and much more detail on the first episode of question and answer. You can watch that here. ua-cam.com/users/liveg4-SYgup3Rc?feature=share
Can it do a natural clean guitar sound as well? I mean the signal directly from a guitar to a modelled amp with no effects? Does it sound good/convincing? Important if you need it as standalone replacement for an amp and an effect unit.
Yes it can but when you say convincing I would say no. I would consider something like the two notes captor to be better or even the strymon iridium. If you want cabinet simulations these are just serviceable. When I do have to use them live I combine them with pedal or I go to the house mixer and boost 1k. and cut a little bit of 2.5k for that shrill synth digital sound to warm up.
Since this works for bass then the answer is yes. However the sounds you would get would NOT be the ones I demonstrated in the video. The sounds I used were just the GK pickup sounds. If you want to use a synth without a pickup I would get the SY-300. It will be cheaper once this releases and you will get the FULL VALUE for your money with more options. I hope this helps you.
Yes but you'd need to set the envelop filters and oscillators to produce those sounds. The default sounds I can only see one or two being for techno and trance. If you're a great rhythm guitar player and good with tech you could EASILY get techno and trance sounds from this no problem.
I just purchased the SY-1000 so more videos will be coming out soon. That would be a great idea, if only I was a millionaire! Share my videos to help me grow and who knows?
That's an excellent question. If you read here you can see it's possible but it takes some separate software made by the community. www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=30326.0#:~:text=But%2C%20on%20to%20the%20good,load%20into%20your%20SY%2D1000.
I tend to agree but you also have to understand this is dry with no pedals and also DIRECT INPUT with no speaker simulation or impulse responses. You can see me combining this with other pedals and coming through an amp to get a much better sound.
Every sound in the device is here in the video and no, I don't think you can emulate instruments with this. If you want PCM sounds I would say the GR-55 is better for that.
@@GearSounds ahhh okay ! This pedal sound awesome, nicely done to let us discover all those possibilities ! Mate i got a question if you dont mind , as i am going deeper into the rc600 im thinking about (got trouble to have an answer via google ) , is it possible to generate from your loops made on the pedal , connecting to a computer, a mp3 music involving all your loop flowing one after one (or the order you choose them ) ? 99track is quite a lot but not really i believe , is that a way to save them somewhere on computer or usb (to liberate the memory of the pedal ) but have a way to upload then later if you want to put them back on the pedal ? Cheers buddy , keep the rock on !!
Yes absolutely, using the software for the pedal that Roland gives you online, you have the ability to save all of your presets and load in mp3 files as well as other presets.
@@GearSounds that s amazing ! How complete is that like its a little studio you hold with you hey ! Great , thanks mate the answers appreciate , god bless !!
@backpackerway8533 Yes, you can output and even bounce your tracks within the unit itself. You can combine three loops into one single loop if you want to, then have each loop exist as its own track. There are literally unlimited ways to set this up but you need to remember that you'll need to use the control change function and assign function both. Not one or the other.
Hello Sean, yes boss does have a user forum but it isn't official. You're better off at the boss facebook group. However what sounds are you looking to get out of this thing? I can likely answer your question. You're very welcome for the review. New content incoming, thanks for subscribing.
@@GearSounds I'm going to have to turn in my man card for this one. The following song opens with a standard 80s synth but then there is this 'ghostly' synth sound. I would not even know where to begin with that. ua-cam.com/video/hwfErYUoqx8/v-deo.html I also have a dream to be able to play this song with just the guitar. ua-cam.com/video/Q4ywEwCHc6s/v-deo.html Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Hey, I LOVE SEND me an angel! Yes you can get that tone with this unit FOR SURE. Will it sound as good? NO but you can get 85% of the way there. If you are talking about the long droning notes in the background of that second song, that could be achieved with a strymon reverb and an ebow, no synth pedal needed. No problem man, someday this channel will be HUGE and I won't be able to reply to everyone. For now I can afford to spend my time to do so.
Hello, is there any difference in "AMP modeling" sound quality when output of standard pickups goes through GK-3 system + 13 pin “MIDI” cable (Roland GKC) to “GK in” input of Boss SY-1000 and when output of standard pickups goes direct to “Guitar input” of Boss SY-1000? Thank you very much.
The amp modeling needs the GK pickup to work in most cases. You aren't getting an amp modeled sound from your actual pickup in most cases, it is just a dry signal. That sound is typically blended into your GK signal (with effects added sometimes).
Early years , synthesizer's , are ? Bass only? Jazz piano 's ? Now, only boss ,'s can made all the sounds pedals , together , as one ....(synthesizers , ....fun.
Anyone can make a synth pedal but right now boss seems to be making the best technology surrounding this craft. I also think the Meris Enzo does a good job technically
There are only 4 patches that work without the GK pickup. You'll need a GK pickup to make the most of this. The guitar I played in this video included it.
I see some comments by people disappointed that the SY-1000 doesn't do PCM sounds, and that is a bit of a bummer. But couldn't you simply approximate that by triggering sound samples that are in just about any DAW these days?
Yes but people don't want to go through the DAW. They mistakenly believe that this is supposed to be an update to the GR-55... IT ISNT! It is a synth not an instrument replication machine like the variax or GR-55.
I'll break down your issues into two halves. 1. This is the same platform as the GT1000 so it has more effects than most all multi-effects units on the market, hundreds. 2. This is wave-based synthesis not PCM-based synthesis. If you want PCM-based synthesis you want the GR55, which you can add sounds to.
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The first thing I'm going to do is combine this with a fuzz, a big sky, modulation pedals as well as bucket brigade delays. It can also be used as a midi controller.
That was a big miss on my part. I do have some bass guitar demos coming in the near future so keep your eyes peeled. I hope to do more bass demos in the future for the bass players out there. I am not a great bass player so I hope you will forgive that. However I have an amazing bass player on the two demos I have coming up.
You'll see some bass videos coming out here but I'm not a bass player so my bass player will be playing on those. The SY-300 worked great on bass so I'm sure you'll love the bass features on this.
Thanks for going through all the sounds! It looks like it doesn't really replace the GR-55 (in that it has piano and other instruments), and it adds GK controller access to do VG stuff. I am curious as to how it could integrate into my DAW, and if it can control MIDI sounds from another synth. I understand that this will allow you to input MIDI data onto a track in your DAW....I wonder if anyone has really used it in that way, and if it works...
You're very welcome, it actually isn't meant to replace the GR-55 line as that didn't sell very well. What it does do however is produce the best synthesized sounds through a new technology called wave based synthesis. This is different to the PCM (Pre recorded sounds) of the GR-55 and I prefer it but if you want pre recorded instruments the GR-55 is going to have an upgrade soon.
@@GearSounds Did you get that info from the Roland/Boss rep you spoke of in an earlier thread? That the GR-55 will get an upgrade soon? I sure hope so. I would love that.
@@muttweedz I actually read it online so it was more of a rumor. No word from boss about the GR-55 and with Namm cancelled this year I can't even ask them.
@@GearSounds Hey thanks for the reply! I appreciate it. In the thread started by the Alexander Vega guy you said you think that ultimately that SY-1000 will be able to replicate the GR-55's sounds even better? What do you base that on currently. One last thing I wanted to ask you. Taking for granted that one has a guitar with a permanently installed GK3 and the Roland US-20 unit selector what do you think would be the best companion device with this SY-1000 unit or would you even group it up with any other device at all? Sorry to unload that on you I'm just getting into Midi guitar and can't really justify owning a 10 year old device (GR-55) that people had tons of issues with even then. Even as cool as it is. This BOSS device seems to be an entirely different animal and I like what I'm seeing and if it gets updates I think it'd be a worthwhile purchase.
I do this for a very good reason, you can get better guitar sounds from a kemper, helix, headrush or AXFX. This device is not intended to beat those devices and to my ears they all sound absolutely awful and very digital. I can't see them being usable at all at least for me as a studio musician and producer. I see this as a synth pedal with the option to do multi FX and imitate guitars in a pinch. However I hope this clears up why I did that.
@@GearSounds Fair point. There is a knack to getting good tones with boss. The 'Natural Clean' amp covers an awful lot of ground, and using small cab models (4x10" in particular) helps. I would probably put a Mooer IR loader on the FX loop on this though.
I changed a LOT of settings but with direct input they sounded awful and digital, however I can't see this changing with a cab. They aren't known for their guitar tones and they aren't even in 7th place when it comes to this tech. They are in first place in synth guitar tech though so that is what I focused on. With an IR loader this might help but still I would think a kemper could do a much better job.
I actually didn't like the acoustic sounds if I am honest but I wish I would have spent more time on ALL the sounds. Yeah the drum sounds on this were amazing. Did you really make it through the whole video?
@@GearSounds No I meant, the SY-1000 doesn't have any piano sounds?? I used to have a GR-55 and it has some really nice piano sounds, but I have not seen anything that indicates the SY-1000 does. Thought?
@@adamdagosto570 I have seen many others make this critique but if you're making this critique you're not understanding the purpose of the SY-1000 or how the technology works. It doesn't offer off of PCM synthesis the way that the GR55 does. There will be a successor to the GR55 but there are currently three categories of synths. Wave-based synthesis with the new SY-1000 which creates brand new sounds, PCM-based synthesis which uses recorded sounds and the SY-300 which is a unique platform. These three cents do different things and are for different people. They're currently is nothing better on the market for making piano with your guitar than the GR55 which is unfortunate because it's 10-year-old technology. Hopefully I earned your subscription with this deep dive lol
@@GearSounds ahhh. Thank you. I understand now. You're right I didn't get it. Yeah I sold my GR-55 because I just don't use it. But now that my skill is a bit better, I wish I had it to play with. Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate your help here!! Yes...you earned it....
If you do pick up that GR55 make sure you either used a Roland guitar with the hex pickup in it or be sure to set up the hex pickup properly to avoid issues with tracking
People constantly say this and I agree but people also mistake the two technologies for the same thing. The GR 55 plays recorded sounds while the sy 1000 is a real synthesizer that also generates some sounds. It's technically possible for the sy 1000 to do everything every boss product has ever done digitally. They just won't because it wouldn't benefit them.
@@GearSoundsI worked/ toured/ recorded with the VG-88 v.2 for over 10 years, then they released the vg-99, absolute trash imo. The "new" GR ,which is the closest thing to the VG its being out for ten years + and at this point that unit its kinda dated.
I that is because PCM synthesis itself is rather dated. There is nothing else to improve upon in that tech. If you have the GR-55 You have the best PCM based (sound effects of other instruments, flute, piano, sax etc) synthesis on earth. It doesn't get any better for guitar. If you want wave based synthesis like I do, the sy 1000 is where it's at!
@@lazyfingers4382 The GR55 engine not only would barely benefit from the sky hardware, it would not even use 10% of it's processing power. Wave synthesis is the complete creation of a new synthesized sound so the hardware is beefy for that purpose. If you're just playing recorded sounds then you just want to add sounds to your GR55 with third party software. Doable by the way. Not sure how PCM tech could get much better unless you're simply talking about the screen and the FX platforms like the reverbs and delays built in then yes, but even that is fixed with updates so I guess no, I still don't see the point there.
I was at NAMM ( national association of music merchants) which is a guitar convention, so that is how I was able to play this pedal before it was released. I hope you enjoyed the video and I hope you're subscribed
Probably the best video out right now for the SY-1000.... BUT.... and yes Mr. Negative coming out again. Please someone explain why this machine is better than the sy-300 other than the VG possible stuff and better functions. The synth engine sounds a tad bit more "Warmer" or "Organic" but from that video all I kept thinking is "And....... so what? SY-300 been doing this stuff since 2016". I honestly think most people didn't sit down with SY-300 long enough to realize they can do this stuff and learn it. And to EQ their stuff properly. I don't hear $$$ difference between the two synth wise really. But for those who want SY-300 stuff and VG stuff in one box, then yeah probably for you. But if you already got a SY-300 and VG stuff. I don't think it's any advancement that much.
I think it is better than the Sy 300 due to the power of the GK pickup. It combines the best of the SY 300 and the GK 55. I don't think the advancement is HUGE but combining the GR 55 and SY 300 in one pedal with more features is worth the price.
Wav based synthesis and PCM based synthesis are compatible and are essentially the same thing. The advantage with wav based synthesis is that it tracks guitar things better like slides and bends. In the demo you can hear me doing a lot of bends and the tracking is amazing even with the fake instruments.
A) SY-1000 has effects from GT-1000 which is still BETTER than anything Line 6 produces in 2023. Heck, even Zoom G6 gives Helix a run for its money. The problem is that youtubers do not listen to the gear with their ears but with their eyes and are way too lazy to dial in the sound. B) No other synth unit comes close to the gear that uses hex pickups of any variety becasue they cannot process 6 strings individually.
Hey wait a second lol, I'm a UA-camr and I definitely take the time to dial things in. I hope you don't mean me 🤣. That being said I agree with you about boss and the effects from the GT1000 inside the SY1000 however I think the reverb is lacking compared to line 6. Yes, I have said this several times that no other since can touch something with a hex pickup.
The instrument modeling is much stronger on the GR55 which is a 15-year-old piece of technology. This unit is not meant for modeling instruments, it actually does a horrible job of that as it is just using synthesizer recreations rather than actual recordings of instruments. What this pedal does well is real synthesizer tones like you would find on a keyboard, it is not for replicating instruments. That would be the SY1000 and even that doesn't do that very well but the GR55 perfectly replicates other instruments that aren't a keyboard.
For those that are better keyboard players this pedal makes no sense. For those that are better guitar players than they are keyboard players, this makes a lot of sense. That being said a REAL SYNTH does sound better but this is 85% of the way there to my ears.
they should of never prioritized the SY 1000 with the GK 13 pin pickup They should of made it like the 300 1/4 inch guitar jack all the way. I just purchased one and only 30% of the device is operable in Normal mode and then I had to buy the GK3 pickup/cable and none of my guitars work well with it besides the GK3 pup is outdated flimsy junk Lol I'm returning mine I should of went with the SY 300 but even that's outdated even the software >>> disappointed with BOSS this time They didn't think this out properly even the New Eurus GS-1 guitar is not rigged with a 13 pin connector more proof they f'd up prioritizing the SY 1000 with this STUPID GK 13 pin crap!
Peter, if you want polyphonic function with a synthesizer on a guitar you need a separate hex pickup. There is no way around that. Absolutely no way around needing a hex pickup for polyphonic sounds as it's impossible for a computer to interpret a chord properly without lag. I understand you may not like the gk system and I wish we didn't need it as well but it is absolutely essential towards getting the best guitar synthesizer sound in the world.
Thank you for this video. It shows me I won't be buying one of these. I don't need hundreds of useless sounds that to me sound like the same crap Roland has always been putting in their devices. I can midi my guitar into a computer and get a lot better sounds than these.
You are absolutely correct but this is for a live setting where you don't want to bring a computer with you. If you look at my other video where I pick only my favorite sounds I think you'll find some more musically useful sounds there. While the technology isn't quite there yet it is definitely getting close
I have a GP-10, which is like a really cut-down version of one of these, and the presets they tend to put on this sort of thing are awful. You can get great sounds out of them.. but Boss don't. For one thing the amp modelling is surprisingly good (again, demos/presets tend to sound crappy - just trust me).
@@CLaw-tb5gg To my ears the amp modeling was not as good as a kemper, however the synth sounds are currently the best you can get from a pedal right now especially for poly. If you look at my video of JUST MY FAVORITE SOUNDS here you can see how usable this thing is: ua-cam.com/video/mFDkzMzhL70/v-deo.html
Why does everyone play the same boomer licks when reviewing this unit. As soon as the demo drops you hear the same basic pentatonic pattern over and over
This critique had me laughing lol. If you want a video that doesent have blues you'll probably want to avoid seeing a guitar player playing it. The pentatonic scale is the skeleton of the guitar.
@@GearSounds nothing against your review or your playing. It's just exhausting going through just about every video on yt for this unit and hearing the same thing
@@jefffisher598 Bro I get it and I agree 100%. However less than 25% of what I play is pentatonic. The rest is minor, Dorian, lydian, major or some strange made up nonsense lol. That's why I was giggling but yes, it's a valid problem for sure. I just know I have to play blues to get guitar players to watch. I tried to balance both. If I played just what I wanted to not a lot of people would listen. My choice of what people want to hear isn't always right but my newer videos, I've learned this better. Thanks for your critique man. I appreciate it. I'm always trying to improve
^ very poor example of the power of the SY-1000 _Why all MONO? - My big pet peeve with these All patch demos is the guy playing the SY-1000 barely touches the CTL 1, CTL2 Controllers which often reveal where the excitement is for any specific SY-1000 patch Compare above the the SY-1000 Soud List PDF and see the CTL effects modifiers www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=26924.msg199227#msg199227 SY-1000 Factory Preset Sound List static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/SY-1000_soundlist_eng01_W.pdf Observe the CTRL ASSIGNMENTS - Use Boss Tone Studio Editor to fully understand the power of this feature
In order to hear the pedal in stereo I would have needed additional equipment to be able to hear what I was playing. I did not have that equipment on hand and I did the best I could with what I had. I agree that stereo would have really helped but I am a new youtuber and a one man show. I did my best to capture the sounds in mono but if you notice you get a slight stereo image on many patches thanks to some of the right signal coming through. Your constructive criticism is appreciated but allow me to explain. Had I gone through the CTRL 1 and CTRL 2 this would have taken me 3 hours to film. Unfortunately, I had so many other booths to get to and I did my best to showcase the patches that I liked. If you look I do push the ctrl 1 and 2 on my favorite patches. I am glad you feel my review was the best. I had this idea at the booth and thought I would be silly not to film it. I would have done that for every single patch but I just did not have the time. I feel that the CTRL patches often just added to what I liked and I did use those on patches I enjoyed. I hope you enjoy my future review of this pedal.
I understand but you also have to understand that I couldn't spend 3 hours doing this. My legs were getting tired from standing for literally 8 hours a day for 4 days plus doing interviews, going through settings etc. By the time I recorded this I was mentally exhausted. I also thought that very few people would want to see a 3 hour demo of this pedal so I kept it short. I also noticed that it was very rare that the ctrl functions changed the sound very much. While I accept this as a valid critique there was simply no way I could have hit ctrl functions for even a quarter of the patches. When I get this pedal I will be sure to make about 10 videos on it going over ctrl functions.
I've been a guitar synth freak since the 70 with all the garbage tracking and cheap tones. Im very disappointed in this unit. Why doesn't Roland keep going with the synth module upgrades to a Fantom or something like that? These cheap FM sounds with their modulation is a step back not a step forward. When they had the opportunity to really separate themselves from the field, they blew it. Is it time to go with a high power software like Omnisphere with a Jam Origin or even god forbid a Triple Play unit with all their cheap tones just to trigger something good? Comeon Roland, put some real sounds into your next piece before Im dead.
This unit is AMAZING the best synth for guitar ever made. The tracking is amazing. If you want fake instruments you want the GR-55 which is also getting an update in 2021 or 2022. Exclusive information from me told to me by roland. This is a MASSIVE STEP FORWARD and the sales don't lie. I am confused what you are comparing it to. This is an update of the Sy-300 not the GR-55. They literally DID separate themselves from all other manufacturers. I can't use software at shows nor do I want to. Software will always be better than a pedal. That being said you can use this pedal to control midi. I think if you want "real sounds" you may want to take a look at the GR-55
Agreed. I really, really wanted to like this and have money burning a hole in my pocket but it's still the same old 1980s Casio toy keyboard sound. I have a VG-99 and I see no reason to upgrade. You know what I'd buy in a heartbeat? An all analog GR-300 reissue. I have an old one, and that's the best, warmest sounding synth they ever made.
its not garbage. the multi task using foot switch in a compact way is better that the one u mention. Maybe ur style doesnt suits on this but that doesnt mean this device is not excellent to others. Of course its excellent if u use this when u are a looper and a singer in one band set up. Try looping old dude and include this in ur set up before u die and die with coolness
I'm not sure if you mean that you didn't like the sound of the pedal or if my sound quality was bad. I went direct in because the Namm show floor did not have this pedal going through an amp. This was the absolute best sound quality that could be achieved with direct input. There is another demo that was done through an amp by one of the boss reps if you're interested here it is. ua-cam.com/video/TbSdP5LWzRg/v-deo.html
They are sold out everywhere and it is the best synth pedal ever made. Useful for electronic artists and guitar players that want to make electronic music. The sales numbers speak for themselves.
These are the best sounds for a synth to be on guitar ever created by mankind. I guess you aren't a fan of synths. This is for the people that love synth sounds.
Thank you so much for going through all the sounds. That is such a gift to those of us who want to know what this machine is capable of ... especially because of the price. Great review!
I'm sure I got your subscription! Thank you for appreciating all my hard work. These videos take so long to edit and youtube doesn't pay me. You're free to donate to me on paypal in the description or just watch for free and enjoy! Thanks for the support. Yes I love going IN-DEPTH with pedals. VERY IN DEPTH.
Best review of the sy-1000 cant believe it!!
Thank you so much man! I appreciate it. I loved going through these sounds.
Now if only there was an SY 1 review
@@Pyriscent SY1 REVIEW INCOMING!
I appreciate your videos actually,. I’m watching a second video now so forgive my ADD if you answered this,. But which SY of the series needs the pickup man. Thanks for any confusion you’ve helping us to eliminate. And good job man.
The SY1000 and GM 800 require a pickup. The SY200 and SY1 do not require a special pickup. The GR55 also requires a special pickup. The GM 800 requires the new GK5 version of the pickup where is the rest that I mentioned only require the GK3.
@@GearSounds thanks for your help and efforts. Don’t strain at the stool, your cool man. Have you tried midi guitar 2? And how does it compare with the GM-800 and the SY-1000)
@@manifestomode1 You're very welcome. I will always strain to bring you the best answers and videos. Yes I have tried the midi guitar 2 and by no means is it a replacement for the gm-800. However it does replace other synth pedals like the sy-200 that do not use a multi track pickup. Since it lacks a hex pickup you will not be able to play chords with any amount of accuracy. However, single note stuff has nearly caught up to the hex pickup single note stuff. In other words, for solos yes the midi guitar 2 is great and a solid option. For any chords, including diads or two note chords, the hex pickup will be superior.
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This gadget is an entire universe. We have to be creative. If not, we will be lost forever in using it.
Yes you're very right, this is why I try to start with simple melodies when it comes to this and use it as rhythm first.
Great job covering all sounds.
Thank you very much, I really did my best on this one.
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Hey, really enjoy your reviews and sound tests on Guitar Synths. I just wanted to point out that the SY-1000 has a "Manual Mode" that turns all the push buttons (except bank up/dn) on the the pedal into "Stomp Mode". This function has been available on several other pedals and I wondered if you could maybe investigate the potential on the SY-1000. Keep up the good work
Unfortunately I have the opinion that the SY1000 is now outdated and I will no longer be making videos on it. I believe that the GM 800 in combination with the GX10 and a small looper is all you need.
Did you use the GK pickups or was this playing normal?
You can not use this unit without a gk pickup so yes, even the normal sounding guitar sounds are modelling amps and cabinets.
Thanks mate😃 🎼🤘🏻
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FANTASTIC! Thank You.
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Hi thanks for this great video, i wanna Ask you please, how Can i get the Sax or clarinet sound with this pedal... thanks ❤
The GR55 is the pedal you're looking for. This pedal uses wave based synthesis and has ZERO real instrument sounds. You'll find that with PCM synthesis in the GR55. I have a video of that here. ua-cam.com/video/F4pDv-HQpiw/v-deo.html
@@GearSounds Thanks...
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Excellent video, thanks for posting, much appreciated. New sub. A+
You're very welcome, I'm glad you got so much enjoyment out of it you subscribed. I have new synthesizer videos coming out every week on Sunday morning.
After going through a lot of your videos and from other channels... I'm still confused. GR-55, GM-800 and SY-1000...i know they're meant to do different things, but in your opinion, which one is ... let's say, best bang for your buck? which one has less troubles, i.e. latency, phantom sounds, etc. etc..?
That is a very tough question to answer, I would say the best bang for your buck is the SY1000. However I would also say that the best synthesizer itself is the GM 800. The GM 800 with a good multi-effects unit would do everything that the SY1000 does and so much more. Plus the tracking on the GM 800 with the new GK5 pickup is superior to the SY1000 or GR55. I would say the GR55 is too outdated to compare to either of these units. However that is my personal opinion as there is no blending function available with the GM 800. That being said I have a tutorial here on the channel of how to use the GM 800 properly.
You are doing gods work my friend.
Hello Mark, thank you for your kind words and thank you for your subscription. What would you like to see next on the channel? New video coming this Sunday as I just went monthly!
tnx man for the effort..subscribed. pls try diving into detail on those programmable parameter set up. Tnx again
I will definitely do so but I first have to cover the sy1 as that got 10 times the views and people seem to be interested in a pedal that they can afford. Lol. I will be producing more in-depth Sy 1000 content as well as tutorials. You're very welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for your subscription.
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wow!!! awesome review
Glad you enjoyed it
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When gear sounds pays my bills and feeds my kids, you'll remember these days of me editing on saturday nights. lol
Does it have piano, flute?
This is the number 1 question. The gr55 is what you are looking for if you are trying to replicate other instruments. That being said it has plenty of flute like sounds as it is actually trying to replicate a real synth. It is using a different type of synthesis called wave-based synthesis instead of PCM basis so it's not triggering sounds but actually creating sounds as you play a note.
What happens with palm muting? I tried some palm muting with the sy100 and it didn’t work.
Also, I’d like to hear - and I know you’ve already done a lot for your viewers - but I’d like to hear what a person who isn’t planning on going full midi pickup can expect to get out of this. Some presets etc that we can look forward to
I should have tested what the non midi pickup sounds sounded like but from what I was told it was just a few hand picked SY-300 sounds. So basically it is an SY-300 with GK pickup capabilities. The sounds in my video are only with the pickup, they didn't have a guitar without it so I couldn't test that for you guys. However, I did answer that I hadn't tested palm muting either.
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I hit that play button and went on listening and after almost an hour I realized it is not your GM800 video but your SY1000 video!! so this one is quite impressive!! which one do you think is more versatile??
I can't believe you watched that long without realizing that lol. That being said the SY1000 is definitely more versatile for sure because you can use guitar tones and essentially use it as a multi-effects pedal. It has a lot of the effects that you need whereas the GM 800 is very limited on the effects you can use. The GM 800 is a better synth tone but offers no guitar tones whatsoever. They really are different units but I think the GM 800 set up properly is the ultimate Guitar synth. Check out my video on the two cable method for more of what I mean about setting it up properly.
@@GearSoundsyes, haha, it's because I've seen them alternated, and this time I didn't read carefully, just clicked on the miniature haha.
The 2 cable method video I have already watched, very good!
Thank you for watching the two cable method video, I'm glad you enjoyed. What do you think I should do next with the GM 800? I haven't had such a dedicated fan base before so I'm very excited. 😊👍
I was hoping for an acoustic piano. Did I miss it?
This unit doesn't have piano in it but the GR 55 does.
This unit is intended to be Wave based syntehsis meaning it isn't based on real sounds. It creates new sounds. For pcm based syntehsis (acoustic piano etc) you'll want the GR-55. A unit that is quickly showing its age now but works with this pickup as well.
Chris, I'll be doing a video of the GR-55 synth soon and that unit has pcm based syntehsis and piano in it.
Great review.!!! The only thing is that many of us guitar players use the PCM sounds... and I don´t see how the new GR 55 is taking so long... As Brock Davisson says... A new SY300? that is an already great guitar synth. Can´t help feeling down... disappointed... There´s been no update for the GR 55 in more than 10 years !!! Gear Sounds, I appreciate if you can bring a little news for the next GR... good job man...!!!
I am with you on the PCM sounds but from what I hear this is an amazing substitute and allows for better tracking and to do things like bends and slides. You can't do that with PCM sounds. I don't think they will update the GR 55 as I think this is actually superior. I will ask my boss rep about any updates to the GR 55 right away and reply to this comment. I am glad you enjoyed the video and I'm happy there are so many guitar nerds out there like me.
@@GearSounds Well... I can accept that it is a great product with the improvements about the tracking and bending... but let me try to explain... and hope don´t missunderstand me... I´m a working guitar player in a classic rock band. I used to play the strings and horns in Comfortably Numb, the brass in I feel good and Silly love songs, even played the saxophones in Hit the road jack. and I could solo with sax, violin and harp, and they do bending... I worked my ass off to play Vehicle, hammond on Black magic woman, and many more songs.... and all those sounds came from a little GR 20 even with its limitations... The only instrument unplayable was the piano because the lagg of the tracking in the 5fth and 6th strings and the bad sounding piano... I need all those sounds to sound as close to the real things as possible... have you heard all those instruments in the Yamaha Genos? the violins, horns, nylon guitars, even electric guitars..!!! they are awesome...!!! unfortunately, I´m a sloppy keyboard player... I guess that´s the purpose of the guitar Synth... to bring all that power to guitar players... It seems that Roland abandoned the product or the players... maybe it had not the commercial response they expected... I don´t know... but these days you can´t give yourself the luxury of giggin´with a bunch of guitars, acoustics and electrics and keys... we need to be as compact as possible even with what the high costs implies... like playing with in ear monitors instead of the big bulky and heavy stage personal deafening speakers, you need to be competitive, get gigs, keep you equipment light.
I have several years now looking to the Fishman triple play, wireless, pretty controller, instead of the old, bulgy and ugly GK3 that roland hasn´t change in guess 15 years...? 15 YEARS..!!!
With the Fishman maybe I could Buy a Yamaha MODX 61 as a sound module... but I would feel really ridiculous on stage... I´m a loyal boss fan but Can´t wait any longer... maybe if I go to the shrink...
I would get the GR 55 if you are looking for exact replications because I didn't hear any convincing replications of real instruments in the SY 1000. It was more for pure synth tones. No I have not heard the yamaha genos, I will have to look into that. Yes I don't think it had great success or they would continue to sell it and update it rather than making a new product. Haha you don't have to go to the shrink but pick this up from guitar center when it comes out. I don't think you'll be let down.
I don't think there will be a new GR 55. Most find the pcm sounds very cheesy especially younger players
@@jorgenascimento1748 I don't think they will continue the GR55 line. When the sy-1000 gets updated it will do those sounds but better.
How does this compare to the gr55 any differences ?
MASSIVE DIFFERENCES! These are TWO different beasts. The GR-55 makes sound effects that replicate other instruments. THe SY-1000 is a different type of synthesis all together. It is wave based synthesis rather than PCM based synthesis on the GR-55. If you want piano sounds get the GR-55, if you want a TRUE synth with sound shaping abiities and better tech, get the SY-1000. Both need the GK-3 pickup. I hope I earned your subscribtion.
Do you still use it ?
I still use both yes. In fact you can find MANY videos on my channel of me continuing to use both of these pedals.
Thanks for this. A tip if you ever are in a similar situation again: If the patch has “poly” in its name, play some double stops or chords.
I figured that out in editing and I damn near kicked myself in the face. However, I think I did the best I could with the time I had. I was flustered because it was the last day of Namm.
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i wish you did a youtube the. a roland vg99
@@vincentsantiago2gmai I don't own the VG99 but I do own the GR-55 and I have two videos coming out for that baby.
@@GearSounds send me the 2 videos
@@vincentsantiago2gmai These two videos will be the next two to release on the channel after an SY 1 video.
great, thanks !! awesome ! :o
This is a good demo! I wish it was longer lol
You're very welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed my demo.
Non ci sono effetti piano, grand piano? Il problema della note fantasma è stato risolto?
This isn't pcm synthesis (sound effects triggered by your guitar and adjusted for pitch). There are zero sounds on this meaning not a single instrument. That is what the gr55 is for. This is wave based synthesis and or, a real synth. It makes genuine tones on its own like a real synth so the sounds you hear are what is intended.
Hello Nicola, I answered your question and much more detail on the first episode of question and answer. You can watch that here. ua-cam.com/users/liveg4-SYgup3Rc?feature=share
Can it do a natural clean guitar sound as well? I mean the signal directly from a guitar to a modelled amp with no effects? Does it sound good/convincing? Important if you need it as standalone replacement for an amp and an effect unit.
Yes it can but when you say convincing I would say no. I would consider something like the two notes captor to be better or even the strymon iridium. If you want cabinet simulations these are just serviceable. When I do have to use them live I combine them with pedal or I go to the house mixer and boost 1k. and cut a little bit of 2.5k for that shrill synth digital sound to warm up.
Cool review..👍🏼
Glad you liked it, new content incoming!
If I was to get this could I do it on my 8 string guitar without the midi pickup I just want the synth sounds
Since this works for bass then the answer is yes. However the sounds you would get would NOT be the ones I demonstrated in the video. The sounds I used were just the GK pickup sounds. If you want to use a synth without a pickup I would get the SY-300. It will be cheaper once this releases and you will get the FULL VALUE for your money with more options. I hope this helps you.
@@GearSounds about the Boss SY 300 does it sound like it can have techno or trance sounds
Yes but you'd need to set the envelop filters and oscillators to produce those sounds. The default sounds I can only see one or two being for techno and trance. If you're a great rhythm guitar player and good with tech you could EASILY get techno and trance sounds from this no problem.
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I’d love to hear a side by side comparison of the guitar models on the SY-1000 with the real life versions. Thanks for the great demo!
I just purchased the SY-1000 so more videos will be coming out soon. That would be a great idea, if only I was a millionaire! Share my videos to help me grow and who knows?
Can I upload the tones I wrote on the gt'100 to the sy 1000 model?
That's an excellent question. If you read here you can see it's possible but it takes some separate software made by the community. www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=30326.0#:~:text=But%2C%20on%20to%20the%20good,load%20into%20your%20SY%2D1000.
@@GearSounds ın terms of comfort,would it be more comfortable to use the gt 100 and sy1 at the same time, or would the sy300 model be more comfortable
Gt100 and sy200 would be better than sy300 in my opinion. But sy300 better than gt100 and sy1 I would imagine. Just my thoughts.
presets sound crass and superficial across the board.. WhatsUp?
I tend to agree but you also have to understand this is dry with no pedals and also DIRECT INPUT with no speaker simulation or impulse responses. You can see me combining this with other pedals and coming through an amp to get a much better sound.
Hey mate! Is there something to emulate a good horn or trumpet on this? If not which device would you recommend? Great vid btw.!! Crazy thing
Every sound in the device is here in the video and no, I don't think you can emulate instruments with this. If you want PCM sounds I would say the GR-55 is better for that.
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Hey mate at 5:20 , that effect 05-2mono porta could we find it or an equivalent with the rc600 ? Cheers
Do you mean the GM 800? The RC 600 is not a synthesizer and it only has a single synth tone which is horrible.
@@GearSounds ahhh okay ! This pedal sound awesome, nicely done to let us discover all those possibilities ! Mate i got a question if you dont mind , as i am going deeper into the rc600 im thinking about (got trouble to have an answer via google ) , is it possible to generate from your loops made on the pedal , connecting to a computer, a mp3 music involving all your loop flowing one after one (or the order you choose them ) ? 99track is quite a lot but not really i believe , is that a way to save them somewhere on computer or usb (to liberate the memory of the pedal ) but have a way to upload then later if you want to put them back on the pedal ? Cheers buddy , keep the rock on !!
Yes absolutely, using the software for the pedal that Roland gives you online, you have the ability to save all of your presets and load in mp3 files as well as other presets.
@@GearSounds that s amazing ! How complete is that like its a little studio you hold with you hey ! Great , thanks mate the answers appreciate , god bless !!
@backpackerway8533 Yes, you can output and even bounce your tracks within the unit itself. You can combine three loops into one single loop if you want to, then have each loop exist as its own track. There are literally unlimited ways to set this up but you need to remember that you'll need to use the control change function and assign function both. Not one or the other.
i will like if you do only using Gk3!using guitar 🎸 sound on all clean sound it have just for guitar 🎸
While this unit does have guitar sounds, it is mostly a synth which is why I focus on the synth tones.
Does Boss have a user forum? There are certain sounds I need to make sure I can get out of this before I pull the trigger. Very nice review thanks.
Hello Sean, yes boss does have a user forum but it isn't official. You're better off at the boss facebook group. However what sounds are you looking to get out of this thing? I can likely answer your question. You're very welcome for the review. New content incoming, thanks for subscribing.
@@GearSounds I'm going to have to turn in my man card for this one. The following song opens with a standard 80s synth but then there is this 'ghostly' synth sound. I would not even know where to begin with that.
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I also have a dream to be able to play this song with just the guitar.
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Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Hey, I LOVE SEND me an angel! Yes you can get that tone with this unit FOR SURE. Will it sound as good? NO but you can get 85% of the way there. If you are talking about the long droning notes in the background of that second song, that could be achieved with a strymon reverb and an ebow, no synth pedal needed. No problem man, someday this channel will be HUGE and I won't be able to reply to everyone. For now I can afford to spend my time to do so.
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De nada, obrigado por assistir!
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Nice video Thanks
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Hello,
is there any difference in "AMP modeling" sound quality when output of standard pickups goes through GK-3 system + 13 pin “MIDI” cable (Roland GKC) to “GK in” input of Boss SY-1000 and when output of standard pickups goes direct to “Guitar input” of Boss SY-1000?
Thank you very much.
The amp modeling needs the GK pickup to work in most cases. You aren't getting an amp modeled sound from your actual pickup in most cases, it is just a dry signal. That sound is typically blended into your GK signal (with effects added sometimes).
Early years , synthesizer's , are ? Bass only? Jazz piano 's ? Now, only boss ,'s can made all the sounds pedals , together , as one ....(synthesizers , ....fun.
Anyone can make a synth pedal but right now boss seems to be making the best technology surrounding this craft. I also think the Meris Enzo does a good job technically
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This pedal needs the gk pick-up? Or you can run the patches without that?
There are only 4 patches that work without the GK pickup. You'll need a GK pickup to make the most of this. The guitar I played in this video included it.
@@GearSounds ok excelent I will found my gk, thank you bro!
You're very welcome, thanks for being active here!
are this unit had saxophone sound?
No, that would be the GR-55
Are you using a midi switcher?
No, the gk pickup that was installed in the guitar that I was using has a button that you can press to switch to the next preset
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I see some comments by people disappointed that the SY-1000 doesn't do PCM sounds, and that is a bit of a bummer. But couldn't you simply approximate that by triggering sound samples that are in just about any DAW these days?
Yes but people don't want to go through the DAW. They mistakenly believe that this is supposed to be an update to the GR-55... IT ISNT! It is a synth not an instrument replication machine like the variax or GR-55.
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If it had loads of normal guitar fx, as well as every instrument like Piano, Cello, Banjo, even drums then I'd be interested
I'll break down your issues into two halves. 1. This is the same platform as the GT1000 so it has more effects than most all multi-effects units on the market, hundreds. 2. This is wave-based synthesis not PCM-based synthesis. If you want PCM-based synthesis you want the GR55, which you can add sounds to.
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This with other pedals must be great...
The first thing I'm going to do is combine this with a fuzz, a big sky, modulation pedals as well as bucket brigade delays. It can also be used as a midi controller.
I haven't seen a demo with other pedals
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Bass Mode Please!
That was a big miss on my part. I do have some bass guitar demos coming in the near future so keep your eyes peeled. I hope to do more bass demos in the future for the bass players out there. I am not a great bass player so I hope you will forgive that. However I have an amazing bass player on the two demos I have coming up.
@@GearSounds I'll wait. Thanks
You'll see some bass videos coming out here but I'm not a bass player so my bass player will be playing on those. The SY-300 worked great on bass so I'm sure you'll love the bass features on this.
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Thanks for going through all the sounds! It looks like it doesn't really replace the GR-55 (in that it has piano and other instruments), and it adds GK controller access to do VG stuff. I am curious as to how it could integrate into my DAW, and if it can control MIDI sounds from another synth. I understand that this will allow you to input MIDI data onto a track in your DAW....I wonder if anyone has really used it in that way, and if it works...
You're very welcome, it actually isn't meant to replace the GR-55 line as that didn't sell very well. What it does do however is produce the best synthesized sounds through a new technology called wave based synthesis. This is different to the PCM (Pre recorded sounds) of the GR-55 and I prefer it but if you want pre recorded instruments the GR-55 is going to have an upgrade soon.
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@@GearSounds Did you get that info from the Roland/Boss rep you spoke of in an earlier thread? That the GR-55 will get an upgrade soon? I sure hope so. I would love that.
@@muttweedz I actually read it online so it was more of a rumor. No word from boss about the GR-55 and with Namm cancelled this year I can't even ask them.
@@GearSounds Hey thanks for the reply! I appreciate it. In the thread started by the Alexander Vega guy you said you think that ultimately that SY-1000 will be able to replicate the GR-55's sounds even better? What do you base that on currently.
One last thing I wanted to ask you. Taking for granted that one has a guitar with a permanently installed GK3 and the Roland US-20 unit selector what do you think would be the best companion device with this SY-1000 unit or would you even group it up with any other device at all?
Sorry to unload that on you I'm just getting into Midi guitar and can't really justify owning a 10 year old device (GR-55) that people had tons of issues with even then. Even as cool as it is.
This BOSS device seems to be an entirely different animal and I like what I'm seeing and if it gets updates I think it'd be a worthwhile purchase.
best review
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I notice you skip past the guitar patches quite quickly, but they're a big part of it for me as a gp-10 user.
I do this for a very good reason, you can get better guitar sounds from a kemper, helix, headrush or AXFX. This device is not intended to beat those devices and to my ears they all sound absolutely awful and very digital. I can't see them being usable at all at least for me as a studio musician and producer. I see this as a synth pedal with the option to do multi FX and imitate guitars in a pinch. However I hope this clears up why I did that.
@@GearSounds Fair point. There is a knack to getting good tones with boss. The 'Natural Clean' amp covers an awful lot of ground, and using small cab models (4x10" in particular) helps. I would probably put a Mooer IR loader on the FX loop on this though.
I changed a LOT of settings but with direct input they sounded awful and digital, however I can't see this changing with a cab. They aren't known for their guitar tones and they aren't even in 7th place when it comes to this tech. They are in first place in synth guitar tech though so that is what I focused on. With an IR loader this might help but still I would think a kemper could do a much better job.
I notice that also but the guitar patches isn't what this thing is about right?
No it is about the synth sounds.
This is dope. I wish you would have spent more time on the acoustic sounds. This is quality. Can’t wait to play with the OSC Drums
I actually didn't like the acoustic sounds if I am honest but I wish I would have spent more time on ALL the sounds. Yeah the drum sounds on this were amazing. Did you really make it through the whole video?
@@gruust1 No, without the GK pickup the sy-1000 is not worth it.
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No piano?
I have a GR55 demo coming soon with plenty of piano goodness in it
@@GearSounds No I meant, the SY-1000 doesn't have any piano sounds?? I used to have a GR-55 and it has some really nice piano sounds, but I have not seen anything that indicates the SY-1000 does. Thought?
@@adamdagosto570 I have seen many others make this critique but if you're making this critique you're not understanding the purpose of the SY-1000 or how the technology works. It doesn't offer off of PCM synthesis the way that the GR55 does. There will be a successor to the GR55 but there are currently three categories of synths. Wave-based synthesis with the new SY-1000 which creates brand new sounds, PCM-based synthesis which uses recorded sounds and the SY-300 which is a unique platform. These three cents do different things and are for different people. They're currently is nothing better on the market for making piano with your guitar than the GR55 which is unfortunate because it's 10-year-old technology. Hopefully I earned your subscription with this deep dive lol
@@GearSounds ahhh. Thank you. I understand now. You're right I didn't get it. Yeah I sold my GR-55 because I just don't use it. But now that my skill is a bit better, I wish I had it to play with. Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate your help here!! Yes...you earned it....
If you do pick up that GR55 make sure you either used a Roland guitar with the hex pickup in it or be sure to set up the hex pickup properly to avoid issues with tracking
we need a new Roland GR like this
People constantly say this and I agree but people also mistake the two technologies for the same thing. The GR 55 plays recorded sounds while the sy 1000 is a real synthesizer that also generates some sounds. It's technically possible for the sy 1000 to do everything every boss product has ever done digitally. They just won't because it wouldn't benefit them.
@@GearSoundsI worked/ toured/ recorded with the VG-88 v.2
for over 10 years, then they released the vg-99, absolute trash imo.
The "new" GR ,which is the closest thing to the VG its being out for ten years + and at this point that unit its kinda dated.
I that is because PCM synthesis itself is rather dated. There is nothing else to improve upon in that tech. If you have the GR-55 You have the best PCM based (sound effects of other instruments, flute, piano, sax etc) synthesis on earth. It doesn't get any better for guitar. If you want wave based synthesis like I do, the sy 1000 is where it's at!
@@GearSounds Right! that's what I'm talking about, give me a gr55 engine with the GT or SYk hardware ....that's money right there 🤑
@@lazyfingers4382 The GR55 engine not only would barely benefit from the sky hardware, it would not even use 10% of it's processing power. Wave synthesis is the complete creation of a new synthesized sound so the hardware is beefy for that purpose. If you're just playing recorded sounds then you just want to add sounds to your GR55 with third party software. Doable by the way. Not sure how PCM tech could get much better unless you're simply talking about the screen and the FX platforms like the reverbs and delays built in then yes, but even that is fixed with updates so I guess no, I still don't see the point there.
Why is there a person walking around all the time?
I was at NAMM ( national association of music merchants) which is a guitar convention, so that is how I was able to play this pedal before it was released. I hope you enjoyed the video and I hope you're subscribed
Probably the best video out right now for the SY-1000.... BUT.... and yes Mr. Negative coming out again. Please someone explain why this machine is better than the sy-300 other than the VG possible stuff and better functions. The synth engine sounds a tad bit more "Warmer" or "Organic" but from that video all I kept thinking is "And....... so what? SY-300 been doing this stuff since 2016". I honestly think most people didn't sit down with SY-300 long enough to realize they can do this stuff and learn it. And to EQ their stuff properly. I don't hear $$$ difference between the two synth wise really. But for those who want SY-300 stuff and VG stuff in one box, then yeah probably for you. But if you already got a SY-300 and VG stuff. I don't think it's any advancement that much.
I think it is better than the Sy 300 due to the power of the GK pickup. It combines the best of the SY 300 and the GK 55. I don't think the advancement is HUGE but combining the GR 55 and SY 300 in one pedal with more features is worth the price.
@@GearSounds But how is it comparable to GR-55 when SY-1000 has no PCM sounds like GR-55?
Wav based synthesis and PCM based synthesis are compatible and are essentially the same thing. The advantage with wav based synthesis is that it tracks guitar things better like slides and bends. In the demo you can hear me doing a lot of bends and the tracking is amazing even with the fake instruments.
Brock Davisson The GR-55 is its own beast!!! i would get this and the gr-55 for the ultimate guitar synth!!!
Gear Sounds i had the 300 and it aint got shit on this beast!
A) SY-1000 has effects from GT-1000 which is still BETTER than anything Line 6 produces in 2023. Heck, even Zoom G6 gives Helix a run for its money. The problem is that youtubers do not listen to the gear with their ears but with their eyes and are way too lazy to dial in the sound.
B) No other synth unit comes close to the gear that uses hex pickups of any variety becasue they cannot process 6 strings individually.
Hey wait a second lol, I'm a UA-camr and I definitely take the time to dial things in. I hope you don't mean me 🤣. That being said I agree with you about boss and the effects from the GT1000 inside the SY1000 however I think the reverb is lacking compared to line 6.
Yes, I have said this several times that no other since can touch something with a hex pickup.
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UFO SOUND? This pedal makes MANY UFO sounds lol
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TBH most of the sounds are really those late 80s and 90s video games. Horrible. GM-800 is the real deal, it should just have the instrument modelling!
The instrument modeling is much stronger on the GR55 which is a 15-year-old piece of technology. This unit is not meant for modeling instruments, it actually does a horrible job of that as it is just using synthesizer recreations rather than actual recordings of instruments. What this pedal does well is real synthesizer tones like you would find on a keyboard, it is not for replicating instruments. That would be the SY1000 and even that doesn't do that very well but the GR55 perfectly replicates other instruments that aren't a keyboard.
So the GR55 has actual samples of real instruments? And the SY1000 us just samples of synthesizer sounds?
@Celticsaint777 Yes that's correct except the SY 1000 also has a rea synthl engine on board, So it can create oscillators which the GM 800 can't do.
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I think I'll just get a synthesizer keyboard instead of this, nothing against this product but not for Techno and Trance stuff I need
For those that are better keyboard players this pedal makes no sense. For those that are better guitar players than they are keyboard players, this makes a lot of sense. That being said a REAL SYNTH does sound better but this is 85% of the way there to my ears.
As a guitarist this is something I need. I can't play keyboard
Yes this is for guitar players
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preset 800/2000 lol
Which preset was that?
I'm wondering the same thing
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they should of never prioritized the SY 1000 with the GK 13 pin pickup They should of made it like the 300 1/4 inch guitar jack all the way. I just purchased one and only 30% of the device is operable in Normal mode and then I had to buy the GK3 pickup/cable and none of my guitars work well with it besides the GK3 pup is outdated flimsy junk Lol I'm returning mine I should of went with the SY 300 but even that's outdated even the software >>> disappointed with BOSS this time They didn't think this out properly even the New Eurus GS-1 guitar is not rigged with a 13 pin connector more proof they f'd up prioritizing the SY 1000 with this STUPID GK 13 pin crap!
Peter, if you want polyphonic function with a synthesizer on a guitar you need a separate hex pickup. There is no way around that. Absolutely no way around needing a hex pickup for polyphonic sounds as it's impossible for a computer to interpret a chord properly without lag. I understand you may not like the gk system and I wish we didn't need it as well but it is absolutely essential towards getting the best guitar synthesizer sound in the world.
Thank you for this video. It shows me I won't be buying one of these. I don't need hundreds of useless sounds that to me sound like the same crap Roland has always been putting in their devices. I can midi my guitar into a computer and get a lot better sounds than these.
You are absolutely correct but this is for a live setting where you don't want to bring a computer with you. If you look at my other video where I pick only my favorite sounds I think you'll find some more musically useful sounds there. While the technology isn't quite there yet it is definitely getting close
I have a GP-10, which is like a really cut-down version of one of these, and the presets they tend to put on this sort of thing are awful. You can get great sounds out of them.. but Boss don't. For one thing the amp modelling is surprisingly good (again, demos/presets tend to sound crappy - just trust me).
@@CLaw-tb5gg To my ears the amp modeling was not as good as a kemper, however the synth sounds are currently the best you can get from a pedal right now especially for poly. If you look at my video of JUST MY FAVORITE SOUNDS here you can see how usable this thing is: ua-cam.com/video/mFDkzMzhL70/v-deo.html
This is a massive upgrade and the best guitar synth ever made. Not sure what your issue with it is.
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Too expensive!
I agree but I might finance one!
Why does everyone play the same boomer licks when reviewing this unit. As soon as the demo drops you hear the same basic pentatonic pattern over and over
This critique had me laughing lol. If you want a video that doesent have blues you'll probably want to avoid seeing a guitar player playing it. The pentatonic scale is the skeleton of the guitar.
@@GearSounds nothing against your review or your playing. It's just exhausting going through just about every video on yt for this unit and hearing the same thing
@@jefffisher598 Bro I get it and I agree 100%. However less than 25% of what I play is pentatonic. The rest is minor, Dorian, lydian, major or some strange made up nonsense lol. That's why I was giggling but yes, it's a valid problem for sure. I just know I have to play blues to get guitar players to watch. I tried to balance both. If I played just what I wanted to not a lot of people would listen. My choice of what people want to hear isn't always right but my newer videos, I've learned this better. Thanks for your critique man. I appreciate it. I'm always trying to improve
very big for a bedroom
It is a very large pedal board but it is no bigger than a pedalboard with 3 pedals on it.
It does act as a multiFX unit as well
@@Pyriscent NOT A VERY GOOD ONE but yes
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^ very poor example of the power of the SY-1000 _Why all MONO?
- My big pet peeve with these All patch demos is the guy playing the SY-1000 barely touches the CTL 1, CTL2 Controllers which often reveal where the excitement is for any specific SY-1000 patch
Compare above the the SY-1000 Soud List PDF and see the CTL effects modifiers
www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=26924.msg199227#msg199227
SY-1000 Factory Preset Sound List
static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/SY-1000_soundlist_eng01_W.pdf
Observe the CTRL ASSIGNMENTS -
Use Boss Tone Studio Editor to fully understand the power of this feature
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In order to hear the pedal in stereo I would have needed additional equipment to be able to hear what I was playing. I did not have that equipment on hand and I did the best I could with what I had. I agree that stereo would have really helped but I am a new youtuber and a one man show. I did my best to capture the sounds in mono but if you notice you get a slight stereo image on many patches thanks to some of the right signal coming through.
Your constructive criticism is appreciated but allow me to explain. Had I gone through the CTRL 1 and CTRL 2 this would have taken me 3 hours to film. Unfortunately, I had so many other booths to get to and I did my best to showcase the patches that I liked. If you look I do push the ctrl 1 and 2 on my favorite patches. I am glad you feel my review was the best. I had this idea at the booth and thought I would be silly not to film it.
I would have done that for every single patch but I just did not have the time. I feel that the CTRL patches often just added to what I liked and I did use those on patches I enjoyed. I hope you enjoy my future review of this pedal.
Thank you Brock, I did my best but I accept his critique.
I understand but you also have to understand that I couldn't spend 3 hours doing this. My legs were getting tired from standing for literally 8 hours a day for 4 days plus doing interviews, going through settings etc. By the time I recorded this I was mentally exhausted. I also thought that very few people would want to see a 3 hour demo of this pedal so I kept it short. I also noticed that it was very rare that the ctrl functions changed the sound very much. While I accept this as a valid critique there was simply no way I could have hit ctrl functions for even a quarter of the patches. When I get this pedal I will be sure to make about 10 videos on it going over ctrl functions.
The demo is in stereo
Totally gimmicky..
I disagree, that is like saying a synthesizer is gimmicky. They said that in the 60's until pink floyd used it well.
I've been a guitar synth freak since the 70 with all the garbage tracking and cheap tones. Im very disappointed in this unit. Why doesn't Roland keep going with the synth module upgrades to a Fantom or something like that? These cheap FM sounds with their modulation is a step back not a step forward. When they had the opportunity to really separate themselves from the field, they blew it. Is it time to go with a high power software like Omnisphere with a Jam Origin or even god forbid a Triple Play unit with all their cheap tones just to trigger something good? Comeon Roland, put some real sounds into your next piece before Im dead.
This unit is AMAZING the best synth for guitar ever made. The tracking is amazing. If you want fake instruments you want the GR-55 which is also getting an update in 2021 or 2022. Exclusive information from me told to me by roland. This is a MASSIVE STEP FORWARD and the sales don't lie. I am confused what you are comparing it to. This is an update of the Sy-300 not the GR-55. They literally DID separate themselves from all other manufacturers. I can't use software at shows nor do I want to. Software will always be better than a pedal. That being said you can use this pedal to control midi. I think if you want "real sounds" you may want to take a look at the GR-55
Agreed. I really, really wanted to like this and have money burning a hole in my pocket but it's still the same old 1980s Casio toy keyboard sound. I have a VG-99 and I see no reason to upgrade. You know what I'd buy in a heartbeat? An all analog GR-300 reissue. I have an old one, and that's the best, warmest sounding synth they ever made.
its not garbage. the multi task using foot switch in a compact way is better that the one u mention. Maybe ur style doesnt suits on this but that doesnt mean this device is not excellent to others. Of course its excellent if u use this when u are a looper and a singer in one band set up. Try looping old dude and include this in ur set up before u die and die with coolness
The GR-300 is amazing and an analog synth wouldn't be possible with the 13 pin system would it? It would have to be HUGE right?
What the hell is the behringer desktop deepmind 12 used for?
Thanks, but the sound was bad
I'm not sure if you mean that you didn't like the sound of the pedal or if my sound quality was bad. I went direct in because the Namm show floor did not have this pedal going through an amp. This was the absolute best sound quality that could be achieved with direct input. There is another demo that was done through an amp by one of the boss reps if you're interested here it is. ua-cam.com/video/TbSdP5LWzRg/v-deo.html
It's direct input, you can't get any better sound
YES! This is ttrue
Almost all of this sounds are totally useless! 😥
If you don't like the sy-1000 what about the GM-800. Here are some useful sounds on that unit. ua-cam.com/video/fas2T-8Cu7U/v-deo.html
Nothing useful.. can't use in cover band, nothing but stupid space sounds Roland bit a big one on this, 15 kid playing in bedroom few minutes. Hahaha
They are sold out everywhere and it is the best synth pedal ever made. Useful for electronic artists and guitar players that want to make electronic music. The sales numbers speak for themselves.
Horrible sounds
These are the best sounds for a synth to be on guitar ever created by mankind. I guess you aren't a fan of synths. This is for the people that love synth sounds.