Can YOU see any difference? (1080 vs 4K revisited)
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Keyphrases: How significant is the visual difference when recording video at 1080 and 4K? Can you actually see the difference?
This is a do-over of an older video I posted about 1080 vs 4K, which can be found here: • Shooting in 1080 vs 4K...
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there is a really noticeable difference... on the right the text changes it color from yellow to blue and the text changes from "4k" to a number, 1080
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@@RealJamesArcher😂😂 I mean he wasn't wrong
u can see it in cars and fine lines
I covered the text at the bottom and tried to make out on my own to see if it was any different when it switched.
I thought I would, but well I couldn’t. Maybe in a few cases here and there because I was looking for it and had to REALLY try to differentiate
i think this test should be exported in 1080 in order to see... the 4k footage should be resized to 1080 not otherwise, in my opinion :)
The 4k display shows its superiority in the back grounds that have long distances behind. It shows lots of details while 1080p shows a blurry background.
As someone who owns a 32 inch 4K gaming monitor with a 240 Hz refresh rate, I can say that the difference is minimal-you really have to focus to notice it. I bought my monitor for nearly €1,500, hoping for a better gaming experience, but I ended up disappointed. Nowadays, I mostly use it to watch movies in 4K. I still play games in 1080p because I prefer having three times the FPS over a slight increase in quality. The only time I notice a significant difference between 1080p and 4K is on larger screens, like my 55-inch TV. For monitors up to 34 inches, the difference is small to negligible.
To answer your question. The use of 4k or 1080p, i would say it all depends on the kind of footage. Wildlife 4k is better to get details and texture. Urban environment street and building 1080p is just fine. Obviously zooming in on 4k is better. But you have to ask yourself "Do i really need that detail?" For example 4k screen casts are a bit overkill. And besides 4k streaming is not cost effective for the streaming provider, so YT might just put 4k behind a paywall.
Let's put it this way - it's that change so subtle that your parents will struggle to see the difference.
In a smartphone, you can't see a difference. But if you have a 4k display and seeing in 4k, you probably notice the difference. But at the end, depends in what you want and think that matters more, resolution or picture quality. Because 4k vs 1080, mostly affects the sharpness and the colors seem a bit darker in 4k, but the difference in picture quality, they are about the same, is harder to tell the difference. 😅
But in dance 1080p blur 4k has no blur super fast in 30fps 24fps
I can see the difference when zoomed in, but it's really small. Besides that UA-cam also compresses the videos. Not sure how much of an influence that has on this.
Would it be correct that anyone watching on anything less than a 2K monitor or 4K TV or whatever would never be able to tell the difference anyways as the device resolution is 1080p so could never show 4K anyways? Or what am I missing?
Hi, looking on a phone at 100% there is no noticeable difference. When zoomed in 200% it was still hard to distinguish. From my laptop, it was a bit more obvious, but the fact that a lot of people watch UA-cam on phone makes 1080 a viable option i think :)
The 200% zoomed 1080p seems like a 720p. It just rubs me on the bad side of my brain! The non-zoomed 1080p is ok, like I can notice the difference but I need to look for it! It does not bother me that much and if you can save up some space I think the non-zoomed 1080p really ok.
I agree, zoomed 1080p not good.
what about shooting things like artist painting videos?
I think you could definitely get away with 1080 for that, especially with the camera staying still. Just make sure there's good lighting!
I watching this with an iPhone se 1. Doesn’t help, but I only saw one noticeable difference in one 200% video of leaves. The rest I didn’t notice anything or maybe forgot because of so much video. Guess I don’t make detective.
Haha if it's any consolation, I didn't see much difference either. 😄
Wouldn't it be a better comparison to shoot the same footage but with 2 different cameras? Like the best 4K camera you can get and the best 1080p camera you can get.
At least when I record 4K in my S22 Ultra I see so much more detail vs 1080p (that I use for IG content). Happens the same when I see 5K footage on ym Gopro vs 4K or even 2.7K.
Edit: I appreciate the effort though! Thanks for helping us with understanding the formats better!
I was wondering the same thing, but I figured that what I *really* wanted to test was the difference that the resolution difference itself made, with as few other variables as possible.
If I use different cameras, there could be different sensors, different noise reduction, different color science, etc. It really becomes a camera comparison instead of a resolution comparison.
What I really wanted to know was, all other things being equal, how much difference does it make to record in 1080 vs. 4K. It seemed like the ideal way to do that was to use the exact same footage from the exact same camera.
@@RealJamesArcher makes sense. Thanks for the explanation!
There really is not much of a difference other than when it is zoomed in. Other than that the difference between 4K and 1080p is very subtle. I’m watching on a 55inch Samsung TV. Thanks for your videos by the way, very helpful!
u can see it in cars and fine lines
@@g-music-2000 , only when you zoom in. Otherwise, you are claiming to have super human vision or watching it on wall sized display. Also, some devices have weird sharpening features that can create the illusion that things are sharper than they really are and/or generate non-native artifacts.
@@captureinsidethesound You can tell the difference and I have all 3 resoutions, 1080p 1440p and 4k. 1080p is blurry if you put it side by side to 4k. Most of the image is clear and crisp and more true to life which can immerse you more. That's the experience I have so far. It's not just zoomed in it's the image as a whole.
The 200% Zoom makes the 4k to 1080 a dead give away when observing details. Though at 100%, it's subtle and difficult to tell. The 1080 gains a bit of a mush, but again, I was primed to look for differences. In any other case I likely wouldn't have cared. This is likely to only be caught casually by users with actual 4k monitors (not TVs) and watching this in 4k, which is not very common.
Thanks for the feedback!
1080p is good enough for me! I don't see the point of gaming in 4K unless you have a high-end machine. The difference is negligible and it takes wayyyy more processing power to render at 4K vs 1080p?
4k is larger screen
@@XYZXX113 You can run at 1080p or 4K no matter how big the screen is.
@@HerecomestheCalavera 75inch
I won't struggle with the 4k versus 1080 choice until I become much more proficient with lighting, scripting, theme, angles, cuts, audio, and story. I need all the 1080 learning experience I can get. After I get a higher percentage of my 1080 right, I might try a little more 4k. 4k won't save a poorly executed 1080 video. Sure, more cropping options, but you can even get away with a little crop in 1080...or do it right and use a second camera...in 1080, LOL. Learning a lot from your channel, by the way.
This is the way 🙌 And thanks for the feedback!
I'm looking at this on a 2k 32in monitor. The transition between 1080p and 4k is barely noticeable, only a slight improvement in detail for 4k if I'm actively looking for it. The difference when zoomed in at 200% is clearly noticeable and I'd definitely prefer the footage at 4k when zoomed in.
If you had blinked between the switch you wouldn't have a clue...
As far as I'm concerned, continue in 1080. If you told viewers you were using 4k, the majority would believe you.
Save your disk space 👍
1. No difference when UA-cam Quality is set to 1080p HD.
2. Subtle difference when viewed in 2160p 4K quality with 200% Zoom.
3. Stick with 1080p HD if the final deliverable is UA-cam! 🤓🎉
Watched this vid on an 100%RSGB gaming laptop. The only glaring difference I see is when it's zoomed in 200%, otherwise, tried hard to notice any shifts in quality between the contrasting clips, but couldn't. Seems like the only people that would truly notice are pixel peepers or maybe if you're viewing on a bigger screen with max resolution itself. Great video!
youtube compresses many 1080p video with avc codec, which reduces the quality, but compresses 1440 and 4k videos with vp09 which keeps close to the original quality. so although these are close at 100% scale, it would not be the same for different video with different codec compression. to know which codec was used to compress a video right click the video and click Stats for Nerds.
note some 1080p videos get compressed with vp09 but thats usually a big channel with lots of views.
Yep, that's a good point. At some point I'd like to test that as well. Even when I shoot and edit in 1080, I'll still sometimes export and upload in 4K to try to (theoretically) take advantage of the better compression.
Soooo, if I film with my GoPro at 1080P or 2.7K and then drop it into a Davinci Resolve project that is set to 4K, then i export it as 4K, I can get really high quality 1080P? That'd be pretty cool. Any other tips?
@@olinjohnson4152 if you film in 1080p or 2.7k export only in 1440p. as it also gets the vp09 better compression. another tip is add alittle sharpening in editing as compression can reduce sharpness.
After coming from the first video, to this one, I'm blown away at the difference. The original video that had the 'soft' 1080 vs this video of 1080, is huge. This video is MUCH harder to tell the difference in resolution. Whereas the first video i correctly chose every comparison.
2:40 is like the only difference I can see because of the antialiasing (i know that's a gaming term, not sure what it's called in video)
I’m watching on an iPhone and can’t tell any difference between 4K or 1080p
Some scenes you can tell 1080p is lower quality. At 2:41 the boot on that grey car in 4K is crispy. Once it switches to 1080p. The outline of the boot becomes jagged and in some of the of the other clips that is also the case where straight lines become jagged. But I wonder if it’s because of the output from your camera to the Atomos for example, if you filmed something with the Canon C 100 Mii which is 1080p down sampled from 4K I think you would probably get a better quality 1080p image from that camera than using your camera outputting the image to an atomos.
Technically this was 4K downsampled as well, but you very well might be right. The A7iii was a little strange because it seems like it should have been downsampled 4K but was just particularly soft for some reason.
If i had a 4k screen, then it'll be possible to notice the difference properly.(can test the full 2160 pixel's sharpness). With my 1080p monitor, I can only observe very small differences and that too when it was zoomed in well.
The reason why 4k and 1080 looks the same cause you if your watching on 4k monitor or 4ktv then ofcourse cause its 8 million pixel but if you were to watch on a 1080 screen then you wouldn't see 4k big difference.
YOU NEED A 4K SCREEN TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE!! if your screen can only do 1080p or 2k, etc then it will NEVER show the 4k at 4k. it will only show it at your screens highest pixel density. so all you saying you see no difference or whatever on 2k, 1080p, or on a "big" screen dont matter, because you CANT display the difference so theres no difference or less of a difference to see
I couldn't see any difference then went down the comments until someone mentioned - have you checked the resolution on your monitor. Mine is 1080! OMG
Watching on a 75" new QLED on google tv app and 800 mbps net speed. Not much difference to me, except the 4k looks slightly better on the zoom and the 1080P looks slightly better on the parking lots scenes. lol Btw my UA-cam says streaming at 2160P which apparently is not 4k. Not sure anybody is really seeing it in true 4K
Asus Vivobook, it's OLED and 1080p. I don't see any difference. I expected to in a scene with ducks and sharp sand, but not really.
Yeah, I think my takeaway from this is that I can totally get away with 1080 and nobody's really going to know the difference. Even with a side by side comparison it's hard to tell, so it seems like it would be almost impossible to tell without it.
For mobile purposes on ohones or small tablets DEFINITELY just use 1080p. If your viewer will be watching on televisions or larger go 4k.
Shooting in 4k is not worth the space and time if your end user is viewing on mobile. For all other use cases it is worth it.
If I were you and end user was viewing on a mix of mobile and larger monitors then possible ahoot 2K and call it a day.
Thanks for this! I'm just beginning to look into video and the only SMALL difference I see is when you zoom in, and I only really see it in high contrasting areas. Keep doing what you're doing, it helps rookies like me!
Not enough difference to notice most of the time, but there is some subtle difference nevertheless.
Look at 2:40 at the straight lines on the pickup truck, the parked cars and the pavement lines. In 4k they are straight, in 1080p the lines break down and the result is what looks like movement or vibrations along the straight lines, this is especially visible in fullscreen mode, which is annoying, but it is also something I probably wouldn't think of if I didn't look for subtle differences.
Answer = It depends on the screen you are watching it on, On a 4k screen , its rather obvious loss of quality. For a 2k screen, sorta - for a 1080p screen or smaller pocket rectangles? You can get away with 1080p.
So I guess it depends on who you expect to watch the content, and if they are likely to be viewing this on high resolution screens.
I shoot 4k when I know I'm going to need to crop a little, for example for image stabilization or to zoom in for effect. Then I export the final product in 1080p.
Very noticeable difference on my 65k LG TV where I probably watch about 50% of my UA-cam plays. Even my 12 year old said the 1080p looks cheap and more blurry. To me it looks more compressed with artefacts and almost pixelation clearly visible. Often 1080p looks quite similar to 4k from my sofa, but here the 1080p definitely looks lower quality.
Looking at the clips in the mountain far far away from people.. Max1080p on youtube.. On the phone.. Can't tell the difference. Will try again when back home on a large monitor.
Thank you! 🙌
Question to all of you saying "There is no difference": are you watching this in 4k (on the UA-cam settings)? is your monitor 4k? We have to consider that the vast majority of computer monitors are still 1080 while the overwhelming majority of TVs are 4k so when we editing video we cant see the difference. Years ago my father in law jumped into the digital video thing after years of doing home film, after long hours of tutoring him he mastered 720 and stayed with that until he was no longer able to use a camera last year, he now deeply regrets the last few years when he stayed 720. If you can go 4k (or higher) do it, your kids and grandkids would enjoy your videos for years to come
I'm watching this on a 27 inch 1080p monitor but I set the YT video setting to 4K, so was I really watching it in 4K when the scene says 4K? I don't notice any difference but maybe it's because I only have a 1080p monitor? The difference might be noticeable on a 50 inch 4K monitor, I don't know.
I mentioned in your past video I could tell the difference, but in this one it was a lot harder, only in some of the zoomed in shots could I notice a small change.
Still, I think 1080 is good enough, specially for UA-cam, and if the whole video is 1080, I might not even notice or think about it.
And I don't know if your analytics tell you this, but I'll assume most people watch UA-cam on a smartphone, making 1080 vs 4k not that relevant.
Dude just watched your old video this weekend and was rethinking my strategy. Glad you released this one because space and speed is worth the minimal differences. Hope you’re well.
It's still not fully fair because UA-cam does auto 4k and doesn't change to 1080p
I can't tell the difference. I think there are a few factors that may be worth considering.
4k may not look as perfect as you'd expect due to the UA-cam compression.
Some 4k TVs automatically try to upscale 1080p input to improve image quality.
There is really a very big difference between shooting 4k vs fhd, even when shooting 4k and exporting it in fhd vs straight fhd, but its really noticeable when you shoot from a close distance. Thats when the details from the extra data start to really show (if the extra details dont get "masked" by bad light exposure and white balance). Also, although you have the vp09 codec on this video, youtube changes the way videos look, so im not sure how much the youtube coding and optimisation affected your test. Thumbs up for the effort.
2160k vs 1080p will be as much noticeable as gaming 60 fps vs 30 fps - it is very noticeable once you have gotten used to better gear.
Watching on a Galaxy s20 handicaps me a little but not as much as my unsophisticated eye does. Other videographers and eagle eyes may catch it, the masses like me will never know.
I tried to do this "experiment" once. Then ran into a problem: Which res to render to for the final product? If 2K, then I'm obviously losing the 4K "quality". If 4K, then I'm up-sampling the 2K (1080) and changing its quality. I'm curious - How did you overcome this question?
AND - I just found your channel yesterday on another of your videos. You do a great job! Today, I saw THIS video and immediately subscribed. Thanks for your work... I don't subscribe too often.
Thanks Russ. I upsampled to 4k since that's really the only way to show this in a video, but it's still working with the original data so it should be a pretty close approximation.
Watching on my phone (iPhone 13 pro max), there was not noticeable detail whatsoever. Great video!
This is why I just bought 1080p c100 mkii. 4k and 10 bit, raw are gimmicks. Even the pros will use a c500 to deliver 1080p. It's all about sensor!
I noticed it pretty clearly, but there were specific conditions for that to happen:
1. I was watching on my 65" 4K TV in my living room, and
2. I made sure that the quality settings was actually set to 4K. UA-cam likes to set this to 1080 when you're not paying attention, which sort of nullifies the whole experiment!
I have a TCL 75 inch 4k QLed and I could only tell the difference when zoomed in at 200%. And yes, I made sure the test video was streaming at 4k.
Watching on an iPhone 13 Pro and the only time I could notice any difference was when you zoomed in 200 percent I block out the text on the bottom right or see if it was just my subconscious but the zoom in is different but zoomed normal 1080 is completely and utterly fine for UA-cam you don’t need to put 4k down 1080 is plenty for you’re amazing content also if im lot mistake doesn’t more easy still use 1080p?
Sorry Mr beast not more easy
Huge difference at 2:43 - look at the lines on the sidewalk.
It's settled, I'm getting Netflix at 1080. 😂
I've read that 1080p looks better when it has been edited down from 4K, so I don't know if this is a valid comparison.
As you stated - for your camera - 4K is better than 1080.
Fr why do 4k when 1080 could easily get the job done
This is a great topic…. I will use 1080 more now. I am tired of all the hype about 5k 8k…. I think it looks unreal, looks like Theater. We need to go back to softer looks i think 👍
Watching on a 55 inch 4k tv, hardly noticed any difference and think if it hadnt been side by side and actively looking for the differences, i wouldnt have been any wiser. Maybe its my eyesite 😅 as i could bately tell at 200 zoom. On the previous difference, 500 zoom difference was huge.
Watching on a 12 pro max at 2160p can’t tell the difference
I couldn't really either!
that phone can't even display 4k so of course not! try it on a tv or 4k monitor instead.
Ooh nice that you've done another video. I've commented on old, and there I've seen difference on 22-inch 1080p IPS monitor, but it turns out that camera was shooting soft 1080p video, but looking now i really can't tell the difference on my monitor, only when you make 200% crop the image. Can you do the same test with a smartphone camera like iPhone or Galaxy S? Cause 4k videos fill the memory there pretty quick with 4k video recording, maybe it's not worth it.
4k on phone camera is definitely not worth it
Macbook Air M2 15" - I couldn't tell any difference. Makes me wonder if the conversion method you used is really doing the comparison justice as the simple fact is there is a difference the eye can see between 1080p and 4k when viewed close to the screen.
Blimey, there is so little difference viewing on a 13" Macbook. So, unless viewing on a big screen ( which I might do later) I cannot see the benefit of having 4x bigger files apart from maybe wanting to extract the highest quality still images from the footage.
If there would be a significant difference between 4k and 1080p, nobody would do these kind of videos. Nobody wondered if there is a significant diffrence between 480p, 720p and 1080p, becuase the difference was obvious.
I personally think that 90 % of people can only view 1080- even if they select 4k. So we are good shooting on 1080 for at least another 3 -5 years or so -- easy upscale. hopefully in 3-5 years the tech for ssd gets better and faster- so we can record 4-6k --- Macs are getting better to edit it. But we just need storage to catch up
UA-cam settings on 2160p (4k) on my 4k Samsung monitor and the difference looks like almost nothing. I could say it looks the same.
Here's my take. I'm on a Surface Pro 6 (almost 4k resolution) sitting 2' away and I can only see a difference at 100% scaling when I focus on one spot in an image, especially if there's motion- leaves moving, water rippling, and shadow noise become far noisier in 1080p AFTER you see the 4k in comparison. However, this is a very unnatural way to watch a video, because it's normal for your eyes to be looking all around and with eye movement you actually experience a general smoothing effect and loss of detail. In order to "see the 4k", I need to narrow my focal distance to being even with the screen, and this actually lessens my level of detail on the periphery of my vision. This also makes it more stressful on my eyes to be hyperfocused on the granular detail so I can't imagine watching a full movie with this intense level of focus. When I'm just casually viewing, it really doesn't make a difference to me, and I think it's one of the last things that matters in terms of perceived quality. Lenses, algorithms, camera hardware, editing, color grading, etc. are all far more important than whether it's 4k.
4k has some initial wow effect, but I'll not be turning all the time max resolution when consuming on my phone on a not so good internet connection. So in the end, it doesent really matter. 1080p is the max really needed for an everyday average consumption. Keep delivering your good work 👍
4k resolution is better in full resolution, but you almost need to do a side-by-side comparison to notice. When cropped, 4k wins easily. In my opinion, the quality of the lens will likely contribute to sharper files in the 4k due to superior rendering qualities.
Just watched the 1st video and commented. This one, Viewing on a 65” 4k tv, the difference is almost indistinguishable. Even zoomed at 200% it’s negligible. Great video.
Watching on iPad Pro. It was difficult to ignore what I was looking for. If you had not told me, I would say the 4k and 1080 were very close up to 100% crop. That being said, I think I see a difference in sharpness at 200%. I’m not sure if it is because I’m looking for it or if I would even notice if I didn’t know what you wanted me to look for. This may be sacrilegious to your objective with this video but, I watch videos for content. That is probably no help whatsoever.
No significant difference, if that was one video of either 4K or 1080p without the on-screen text I wouldn't have noticed anything different.
Me watching this video at 144p
Hi James
Thank you for doing this comparison. Two things:
When you choose such brilliant words of wisdom to accompany your video when the purpose is to distinguish between 4K and 1080, unfortunately it's counter productive because it makes it harder to focus on the task at hand 😊
Seriously, YES I can clearly see a difference between 4K and 1080p. 1080 isn't bad, it's just slightly 'flat soda'- like, next to 4K.
2:43 car trunk in zoom was horrible! 4K is a must
Could only tell a difference while zoomed in. How about a frames per second (fps) comparison?
I watched this video on a 65” LG OLED G2 from a viewing distance of 8 feet and then again from 4 feet. I do have a slight visual impairment but was wearing corrective lenses which brought my vision to 20/20.
When viewing from 8ft, the differences between 4K and 1080 were subtle and difficult to perceive. However, when zoomed to 200%, 1080 looked absolutely pixelated and completely unacceptable in my opinion.
Watching the same video from a viewing distance of 4 feet the difference between 1080 and 4K became much more pronounced. Unfortunately I never sit that close to the TV to enjoy the added clarity.
It seems to really enjoy the benefits of 4K at a distance of 8 feet or more, you really need to be in the giant screen size category, 70 inches or larger. Thank you so much for creating this video. This content is very illuminating. I’m looking forward to watching it again on my 77” LG OLED C3.
Thanks for this updated video. I'm viewing it on a 27" iMac and the differences are subtle, thus the need for 4K appears to be less of an imperative. Between drone, GoPro and game camera footage I'm dealing with some of the same issues. I'm discovering that action video is where 4K really shines, even though the rendering and editing are a pain. This video has been elucidating. Thanks
It would be interesting to run the same test but upload two different videos, one in 1080 and one in 4K to see the difference that the UA-cam compression makes.
Yeah, that's a good point. I'll probably do that at some point!
@@RealJamesArcher I've found that UA-cam compression makes the biggest difference. Uploading 1080 in 4K looks better than shooting 4K but uploading in 1080. Most of the UA-cam footage I do, unless it's a test, is shot in 1080p but I upload in 4K.
In a 50 inches TV at 7.5 foot away is almost impossible to see the difference. I had to look at 3 foot to barely see the lost of quality
Fine lines ie: on the dock the wire under the railing looks near the end seems to have more noise at 1080p.
Now try to watch it on a tv or monitor with native 4k resolution. Difference in resolution is quiet significant.
Am using a 1080p native dlp projector. Cant see the difference but my projector supports micromirror dithering, that upscale it to 4k
For me not enough to concern myself about, I did watch it streamed to my 55inch Samsung TV, but I do have a personal issue that interfered with the experiment.
I suffer from Trauma induced ADHD and the Kipling voiceover kept dragging my attention away, resolved only by zero volume.
After which, it was not enough for me to concern myself about.
If you are watching this on a 100 inch 8k or 12K telly then your suffering is self inflicted and your fault for marginalising yourself, as only about 0.0001% of anything transmitted is close at that level.
Hello, could you please explain to me what you have achieved? The question here is that you need to shoot in 4K in any case, the camera needs to support this resolution, even if the final file is in FHD. All this so as not to record soft FHD as it was before. It turns out that all you have achieved is a reduction in file size in the case of storage or recording through a recorder, but using just a camera alone such as Sony a7s 3 or Sony a7 4 you will still have to shoot in 4K so that the image is not soft and clear. Did I understand everything correctly?
PS In my opinion you can still achieve the same result if you would shoot 4k video but then you would downscale the file size using Premier Pro or something, because in the camera itself there is a difference between shooting fhd and 4k. Even in games there is a difference, it may not be significant, but there is clearly an advantage to having a 4k capable camera instead of just a fhd capable camera as well as an advantage of having 4k monitor or tv instead of just fhd.
The zoom makes all the difference. On 4k monitor I see the slightly better picture while zooming. Picture also a tiny bit sharper and detailed on 4k.
Other than that there is no much of a difference. Especially it depends on not just ascpet ratio, but much more things :)
Thanks for the video anyway
My question is, what is your audience viewing it on and do you plan on using a full frame camera. Full frame will give you better 1080p over a smaller sensor. Can you record in H.265 to save space? The difference is slight but more noticeable with a better 4K 200% zoom. Are you planning on low light or bright. For low light, I would use 1080p. Can you cut your Megapixels down to around 12 for faster processing?
I'm watching this on the screen of a Thinkpad T420. I can't tell a difference, obviously. I can't imagine my 1080p TV would fair that much better either lol.
I'm looking on a 27inch iMac 2560 x 1440 and the difference is very small. I think it depends on what you're shooting. Too much detail in a drama or interview with tight face shots isn't always a good thing. Tarantino says watching a movie shot digitally is like watching "public TV" .....Sport, factual programmes or news is a depiction of reality, so the more realistic the better. I prefer to watch fiction with a slight distance from reality, so 1080 would be fine.
Im watching in 4k but only on my phone so i can only talk from that perspective. If it was me deciding regarding file size unless I'm recording something that requires quite fine detail id just go for 1080. On a big screen i can imagine people would say differently but I'm poor and have a 1080p tv lol
50 inch tv 4-5 feet away, I can't tell a difference.
I get the idea of shooting in 4K and then down sampling to 1080 - but aren’t you losing half the argument about this difference? If you’re always shooting in 4K you are always placing a higher burden on your camera? Won’t that impact the processors, the battery life, heat generated, and record time?
What we don’t know is - shooting always at 1080 and upsampling to 4K. If that is indistinguishable - that would have advantages. Since the only time you will place a high demand on your computer is when you are exporting your finished work to be viewed by others.
Personally, I’m skeptical about upsampling and adding quality to a file. Where does that extra data come from? Thin air?
I know it’s there my vision not best can’t see that + 4k file lot bigger than 1080p file
how can we see any difference if we don't have 4k display . most of us have 1080p lcd .
Well, that probably reinforces that there's not a lot of practical difference 😄
But most of our videos are shown on 4k TVs so it should matter
On my 4K desktop monitor youtube videos in 1080p looks sometimes to soft and a little blurry. Switching to 4K yt videos get better looking at people hair or at other small details. So I claim that on 4K monitor videos after youtube conversions 4K looks better than HD.
There is no point to do comparison to RAW footage straight out of the camere. Because no one will see it. Do the editing, do the color grading, render out, upload to youtube. And then look at it. Always taste the final meal not the ingredients that comes into making the dish.
Trouble with this test ---> you edited on the same timeline. You might want to SHOOT 4K- as 4k not back to HD- put it on 4k timeline - export as 4k....... Then do the hd- hd timeline- export HD..... Then u may do a side by side on the same time line with 4k file and hd file if ya get me
In 1080p jags were clearly visible in strait diagonals and noise was visible in the moving waterfalls.
If you do this comparison, be sure to check your youtube settings. The default youtube setting is “auto” which may show lower resolution than what you want. For example, I’m using a hotel’s wifi right now, so this video is showing up as 720p across the board, which detracts from the comparison he’s trying to make.
As for me, I shoot in 4K but generally upload in 1080. I often crop in like crazy, so 4K gives me more to work with. I can crop in a lot and still have good video. Also, sometimes I use my video outside of youtube, and 4K does make a difference there.
Thank you!! Your great advice to check the UA-cam settings is awesome. You said "The default youtube setting is “auto” which may show lower resolution than what you want." I changed my settings to 1080p and the difference was like whoa!
Viewing full screen on my Omen 15 laptop, very little difference on the footage, on the zoomed footage the difference is more noticeable. Personally I prefer the 1080p.