Growing Amanita Muscaria Indoors: Host Plants, Soil Prep, and Ordering Mycorrhizal Helper Bacteria

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  • @TheFungiFilesSC
    @TheFungiFilesSC  Місяць тому +3

    🌟 The journey continues! 🌟
    In this video, we dive even deeper into our quest to grow the legendary Amanita muscaria indoors. From selecting host plants and preparing the perfect soil to integrating microbial partners, this is a critical step in our groundbreaking experiment!
    🍄 Curious about how we got here? Be sure to check out the start of this ambitious series here: ua-cam.com/video/o452_Ora2GE/v-deo.html
    I'd love to hear your thoughts, tips, or questions. Let’s grow together-one experiment at a time! 🌱👇

  • @AndreaDingbatt
    @AndreaDingbatt Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for this very interesting upload!! Fascinating stuff, Liked and Subscribed!!
    For many years, it was thought that Amanita Muscaria could not be cultivated!!
    I will be watching this, to see how things grow!

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  Місяць тому

      Thank you for the support! I'm excited to see what we can discover.

  • @TheFungiFilesSC
    @TheFungiFilesSC  Місяць тому +2

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  • @gible-yq2sw
    @gible-yq2sw Місяць тому +3

    DUDE i havent been able to find someone with the same niche interest in mycorrhizal fungi until i saw this video! I have been on a journey into understanding ecto-mycorrhizal fungi and have been developing my my process over the past year. Im currently growing amanita muscaria, cantharellus cibarus, and Boletus edulis all with coniferous trees like eastern white pine and dwarf alberta spruce aswell as a few different oaks.
    Just one suggestion, you must use a species of coniferous tree as amanita muscaria is Ecto-mycorrhizal, meaning it can ONLY form a host connection with specific coniferous and very few deciduous trees. Id suggest pines in your region. If you cant find any pines or spruces at a nursery, look in the woods! Clean the roots thoroughly!
    I believe in your dream man. fight on!

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  Місяць тому +1

      Glad you found the channel! 🌟
      That’s awesome you’re working with those species - such fascinating fungi! I’m definitely aiming to expand into other species like boletes and morels once I’ve cracked the code on the Amanita cultivation process. My goal is to find a host that can replicate the conditions Amanita Muscaria needs without relying on pine, which is a big challenge, but I’m hopeful MHB could play a role in helping with that. I’m also planning on getting the youngest pine I can find to eventually work with-just didn’t have any luck with the nursery’s stock for now.
      The Danish Morel Project is exactly what I’m aiming to emulate, where I hope to unlock indoor cultivation without needing massive host plants. Selective breeding is part of the process, and I’m excited to see where this takes me!
      Thanks so much for your insight and support! I’m definitely excited to keep pushing forward. 🍄

    • @ytoteay
      @ytoteay Місяць тому +2

      Birches, the Amanita Muscaria loves birches, where I collect it it grows next to them very abundantly

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  Місяць тому +1

      @ytoteay another species I could experiment with!

  • @BreathingSoma
    @BreathingSoma Місяць тому +2

    love this experiment, ive thought about this for years,glad to see someone really attemp it. ive been chuckin spores and lc's in my area for a long time to try and get some wild growth going.How did the clones turn out in the fox farm people always say its to HOT, but ive never tried it

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  Місяць тому +1

      @@BreathingSoma Thank you! If you're talking about the axalea clones they're doing fine! Probably going to take a few months to see root development.
      Some people suggest making plugs with a spore slurry to innoculate some established trees. Im not sure if the mycorrhiza prefer a new host tree to form the relationship with or an established one. 🍄

  • @Temporal-Anomaly
    @Temporal-Anomaly Місяць тому +3

    Are you sure that the selected host plants are "ideal" to form a mycorrhizal relationship with? When I took a class in mycology, the instructor pointed out that A. muscaria is usually found around coniferous trees. Wouldn't a pine tree be a better candidate to establish a mycorrhizal relationship with?

    • @moiaussi4406
      @moiaussi4406 Місяць тому +3

      Given it grows under the pine trees on my track I'm going to say yes

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  Місяць тому +1

      @Temporal-Anomaly they're ideal in the sense that they replicate the natural conditions we're looking for. You're absolutely right that naturally you'll find them with pine, and eventually I'll be moving to a Norwegian pine sapling to work with. We didn't start there because of the space requirement for the pine, and that the sapplings at the nursery were far too old.
      My goal is to scale up as the needs present themselves.
      Mush love 🍄

  • @S.Senara
    @S.Senara 22 дні тому +1

    Hello! Great Video and fantastic experiment. Thank you for all the information! I would be really curious to see if you would get different results with a fabric grow container. Plastic and other hard surface containers tend to suffocate the roots and soil ecosystem underneath the surface where as fabric allows for air exchange and breathability and I wonder if it may also affect the mushroom growth

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  22 дні тому +1

      Interesting idea! Maybe I'll look at a burlap sack or something.
      Thanks for the suggestion and watching the content!

  • @wavee5879
    @wavee5879 Місяць тому +5

    One major flaw...the plants you are using NEED a winter dormancy to survive. If you leave those bought nursery plants indoors for the winter they will be sickly and die in the first year.

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  Місяць тому +5

      Thanks for pointing that out - you’re totally right that plants like azaleas and blue-eyed grass need a winter dormancy period to thrive long-term. It’s something I’ve read a little about, and I’ve been brainstorming ways to work around it as this project evolves.
      For now, I’m focusing on the indoor setup to test some theories, but I’ll definitely be keeping their natural dormancy needs in mind moving forward. It may be worth it to experiment with outdoor controlled cultivation in pots. If you’ve got any suggestions for simulating dormancy or other approaches/plants to try, I’d love to hear them-this project is as much about learning as it is experimenting! I appreciate the input! 🍄🌱

    • @wavee5879
      @wavee5879 Місяць тому +4

      @TheFungiFilesSC best bet is to inoculate those potted plants and place them in a make shift greenhouse that doesn't drop much more than around freezing. That will let the plants sleep for a couple months put still allowing them to be monitored.
      After about three months you can remove them to a warmer location or just increase the temperature of the greenhouse to simulate an early spring.

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  Місяць тому +4

      @@wavee5879 Thanks for the suggestion! I’m hoping that by reducing light, using a mini greenhouse, and cutting back on watering, I can manage the dormancy indoors. Since I’m in zone 9a, where winters don’t get too cold, I’m hopeful this approach will help replicate dormancy for these plants. I’ll keep monitoring and adjust as needed - this is all part of the experiment! 🍄🍄

  • @djkeen4353
    @djkeen4353 28 днів тому +1

    Im a lil late but make sure the branches are at least 6” and the wight of a smal pencil and cut the base of the small sticks at a angle

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  28 днів тому

      Thank you for the advice! I can always take some more. I took heel clippings, so no cutting just broke them gently back at the base of a small 4-6 inch branch.

    • @djkeen4353
      @djkeen4353 28 днів тому +1

      @ will u use a monotub or a lizard aquarium thing to monitor the root structure Ik it’s more underground that does the work n pops out the amanita

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  28 днів тому +1

      @@djkeen4353 probably not a monotub, at least not yet. For monitoring the roots I'll just occasionally dig around the outer root structure and observe their growth. It'll be a little more tough once I introduce the Mycelium as it'll make it much more dense, but I'll still be able to lightly dig and monitor development.

  • @treheem293
    @treheem293 11 днів тому +1

    Update soon?

    • @TheFungiFilesSC
      @TheFungiFilesSC  11 днів тому

      @@treheem293 working on one today and tomorrow! One more video to finish beforehand. Should be up for Sunday?