How well they act. Unbelievable level of acting prowess. Just look at Gulbahar crying over bayezid's body! I got goosebumps. And Ibrahim laughing maniacally!!! Hats off.
The production is obviously cheaper than the first version, but I have not seen a more shocking actress than the actress who plays Kiosem. Well done! It is really excellent! Incredible performance!
Somehow it feels like Silahtar actually is taking revenge for ruining his love life by supporting and encouraging Murad's injustice as he knows quite well it will bring disaster for Murad and Kosem. 😐
Exactly, Silahatar’s a horrible man. Silahatar was most responsible for Geverhan’s death. Now he’s turning Murad against his mother & his brothers. He’s also looking to turn Murad against his wife by questioning how she knew about Kosem summoning the advisory council. Kermankes even warned him that a war between Kosem & Murad would be terrible for everyone.
I admired more on sultan Ahmed ,his legacy and the way he handles pain of losing and betrayal by his own family ,,,he wven attempted to kill by his grandmother and mustafa made her ascend,,but he think first for the best of all ,,has always forgiveness in his heart,,its not death ,,ahmed listens to kosem and take solace to her,,,
Murad only remember what the madman said: one of your brother will ascend the throne ! But he refused to remember that the madman also said: *your mother will always be on your side * buat I can’t say the same about your brothers.
He was thinking exactly about he's death stupid people because if he is dethroned that means death for him don't u have enough brain cells to understand that and to be padishah means God on earth because he rules the world so he is God on earth
Kosem was always on her sons side as long as they did what she said and wanted. Starting from Osman, she always wanted to rule. Make decisions and decide was wrong and right. But when her sons did stand against her, she didn't think twice to send them to their deaths. She was a power thirst and very greedy. She wanted the Suotan power to herself
One thing is true in history of Ottomans..The name Bayezid is itself doomed that whoever will have this name will end up being a martyr in hands of the sultan 😂
Sultan Bayezid I killed by Temur Sultan Bayezid II killed by his son Sultan Selim I Sehzade Bayezid son of Sultan Suleiman executed Sehzade Bayezid son of Sultan Murad III executed Sehzade Bayezid son of Sultan Ahmed I executed
the system should not be to kill brother after being sultan rather to kill all the step-mothers who had their own princes. It could stop all kinds of betrayal Against the sultan. Just like halime or gulbahar... If they were killed before, prince mustafa did not become mad or bayejid did not end up dead.....
@@asyaluay5174 after sultan ask kemankesh to marry Gevherhan, he did confess too... both of them favor each other... but they know.. their feeling can't go any further😂😂
They keep on telling Murad is cruel, but they keep on doing mistakes. What a people? 😅😅 Anyways I like Murad and Farya as I like Anastasia and Ahmed ❤❤❤
Exactly. But I’m starting to think Murad is no longer worthy of Farya. He is incredibly lucky she didn’t try to flee the palace or take her own life after he wanted to have her executed.
It's really difficult to choose a side. Murad wants to be a ruler and shows he is not mum ´s boy. And I can see why he is so angry at Kosem because she still wants to rule like years ago. On the other hands Murad did many bad things and I understand that Kosem tries to safe the state and her children.
I agree that murad did bad things out of anger but kosem only cared about her own power she even used her children for it and eventually killed her own son Ibrahim for power, if murad wasn’t strong enough she would’ve done the same thing to him. Ofc murad is not innocent too he wanted absolute power(and did a lot of bad things in the way) but as the sultan it was his right to have an absolute power
Glad they had actual babies for the twins versus Murad's last child was just always a doll. Wasn't too fond of that. They usually pick such beautiful children and babies in this show and I love seeing them. Such an emotional performance when Ibrahim visits his nephews.
I just can't feel sorry for Beyazid's mom at all. She is the cause of his death. He was justly executed for treason. Sad, but true. It's not the same as the disgusting habit of killing off brothers or uncles when ascending the throne. That's barbaric.
I think Bayzids mother just did what any other mother of the princes would do. Do anything to protect their son. Unfortunately most of the time it meant treason. If she succeeded it would not be called that. Because History back then was written by the winners.
While it’s true that Bayezid was executed for a valid reason, Murad caused Bayezid to betray him by forcing Bayezid to execute his true love Kalike Hatun. That as appallingly cruel, particularly when Murad couldn’t bring himself to execute his own true love. Suspect there may be some karma on its way for Murad on account of what he did to Bayezid & Kalike
Maybe but Gulbahar & Sinan Pasha are starting to give them a run for his money. Murad is lucky to have such an amazing & loyal wife holding the fort for him but he is too busy boozing with the boys to notice. And Silahatar is beyond horrible to his poor wife.
Because he save the empire when he enthrone and become sultan...he work so hard for 8 years clean after what his mother destroy ..the empire of ottoman is his right because he have royal blood ..and know if his mother put her noise in empire affair ..she will destroy it again
He is scared to loose he's throne because u obviously have no idea what is happening when u lose it u must be killed so I don't think someone will prefer he's brothers to live and he to be killed
I agree. Silahatar is clearly trying to turn Murad against his mother, against his wife & against his brothers. Not to mention he is making Atike’s life miserable & he was mainly responsible for Geverhans death
I can only blame the system of concubine. Because of these..all mother(concubine) wanted to see their prince on the throne. If there was only one legal wife...that would not be happened. Someone will tell me that keeping concubines was necessary for the increasing the descent! No...it wasn't necessary because we can see Kosem sultan has given 8 children among them ...four were prince. That's means only one legal wife can increase the descent as well.
exactly, I just think it was some messed up excuse for the sultan to have multiple women when and how he please. let a woman try that and she willed be stoned in one. it's amazing how aids didnt exist in those days
I think the law "each mother, one sun" was because they didn't want to abolish fratricade and after hurrem, the chief consorts started to give birth to sultans.
I dont like silahatar ...i hate him...but if you think little...Murad realy want to protect his brothers from their greed for the throne..and also protect them so they will not become puppet in their mother hand for her greed for the power...if she take any mistake move ..its will case her one of her children...murad want her to anderstand it... You will understand that Murad was right all the times about his greedy mother in sultan Ibrahim era and his son muhamad...he know her for years...he see in his eyes how she greedy woman
Idk why do people say that Kosem has a greed for power where in fact she just wants to protect her children and even Sultan Murad tsk tsk I don't blame Kosem, I blame the people who surround the Sultan and their enemies but above all I blame Sultan Murad's alter ego because he won the fight and now Sultan Murad is so cruel huhu
Just wait until Ibrahim and his son muhamad era so you will know how she is greedy for power..she will kill any one if he stand agiant her even if he is her son or her grandson..
The Sehzades/Sultans in this show has similar personalities with the ones in MC. Murad-Suleiman: Powerful and Short tempered Ahmet-Mehmet: Calm and Pure hearted Kasim-Selim: Selfish but realistic, respects their parents too Ibrahim-Cihangir: Youngest, but with a good heart, loves their half brother the most. Osman-Bayazid(MC): Gets betrayed by everyone Both Mustafas are unique but they have the same bad fate. Mustafas suffered because of their mothers, one lost his life, the other lost his mental stability.
Poor Ibrahim, what a trauma since his birth. I always see that baby in the crib looking around innocently wondering what those shadows are lingering around. ( Black shadows of executors when they all were about to die and saved at last moment)
I understand. But he should not have been killed. Exiled, locked in etc. But. It was a big error for her not to fight for his life. It allowed Murad to adjust to killing his brothers.
I wonder why kosem didn’t slapped gulbahar face when she’s still moaning for everything. She’s the one who killed her son. Kosem tried to protect all dinasty family’s
why is gulbahar crying when she herself got him killed. Had she not returned to palace, he would have lived and infact may have attained high position in court.
In terms of the show yeah but in real life murad executed 2 other brothers alongside bayezid, one was kosems other son but he isn't mentioned anywhere in this series. Murad executed 4 of his brothers during his reign and probably his uncle Mustafa too but that's debated. Only Ibrahim survived lol.
1:37:00 What a pity A man can sleep with uncountable women. But a woman can't even love someone after her husband's demise. Kosem and kamankesh are ❤️❤️. Truly they love and support each other 💗
Which man? Sultans can only do that cuz they are sultans. Ur dead if ur a shehzadi’s husband and sleep with other women. Except for sultan’s wives, any widow woman can remarry
49:00 and no one pays attenrion which pasha is visiting galbahar? If there was a rustem pasha or pargali ibrahim instead of this stupid silahtar who blames kosem for everything, we wouldn't be waiting for other princes death scene.
If Murad had Ibrahim Pargali, Bali Bey, Zulkifar or Iskender instead of Silahatar- Ayse wouldn’t have been allowed to see her children alone & poison them. So Ahmed & Hanzade would still be alive not to mention Geverhan
At this point, Murad has become a dictator... He doesn't listen to anyone or value anyone... That point made by Yahya Effendi was excellent... Sultan Murad indeed survived and became the Sultan thanks to the law he is trying to abolish now... Edit: He is getting brainwashed by Silahtar though and that too only because Silahtar is supporting his line of thought
Agreed. Though I’m a bit surprised that Kosem didn’t talk to Farya about the eldest prince law. Murray probably wouldn’t have listened even to Farya but i suspect Farya would have been persuaded & would at least have tried to talk to Murad.
The moment Murad abolished the Eldest Prince law and made fraticide legal again I lost all respect for him. Okay, he doesnt care for his brothers. Okay, he has given up on them and his own mother. Doesnt he think about his sons then? He knows the pain of both losing a brother and writing that death warrant. There is no win here and no excuse.
the only problem with murad was literally himself. his own addiction to alcohol that finally killed himself, not his enemy neither his mother did it. he was known for fearless and powerful ruler againts his enemy but the major point is that he could not conquer himself the way he conquer baghad and tabriz.
Gulbahar is a mixture of Mahidevran and Halime. Mahidevran also used to blame Hurrem for all the bad things happening in her life, like even if a stone would trip her she would still blame Hurrem, same with Gulbahar, she blames Kosem for what happened to her child, Bayezid when it's her ambition and treachery that dragged Bayezid into being executed, it's like she did not learn from Halime.
Sehzade Mustafa was innocent himself but was killed due to his ambitious mother Mahidevran, similarly Sehzade Bayezid was kind but was killed because of his mother Gulbahar so sad had these mothers been wiser and instead waited their fate might have been different because both were the heir to the throne. Specially Kosem she would've let Bayezid rule if it weren't for her mother can't say the same about Hurrem because fratricide existed during her era. Kosem loved all the prince like their own mother but this Gulbahar messed up
If this is closed to the history, the real problem in their lives was inside the palace. They have all the wealth and material comfortability yet, peace of mind and freedom is very hard to achieve. So sad..
They prefer to be shadow ( conquer, cruelty, executions, bans, pride) instead of light. We are God's gift to be a Light on Earth. All, not just royalty.
@@BRILLIANCY_BLUNDER not only in this series darling, that's how it is in the world especially these days. people have become greedier for power, money, fame...
exactly, everyone seem to have their own agenda. sometimes I wonder which times were more cruel, if those days or nowadays.. only major difference is that there is "freedom of speech", but that doesnt even apply to every country in the world, some places the citizens cant say what they really want to without being victimize
Of all the prince apart from Murad, I love bayezid and Ibrahim the most. I have never seen anyone pure in heart even when they have every reason to not be.
All the prince's that died was not their own fault they were innocent but their mother's signed their execution by being greedy and really that's not mothers love
i swear they are dragging a character that doesnt even exist for more than half of the series and have created a non existent narrative from that but were too lazy to write a story with a person that actually existed and outlived murad like what were the writers thinking
The magnificent century never was true history. But the series with Suleiman at least tried to keep the main historical figures. This series with Murad is one big nonsense. And I mean it if you would just watch this series you know hardly more about Sultan Murad 4. than you knew before. Bunch of princes are missing, there are made up characters everywhere (and plots but I get that since we simply do not have such a detailed information on how everything happened in RL to make a series out of it) and it's one big BS.
Murad is the one who greed and arrogant as well. No wisdom at all....While watching Kosem, mostly i skip Murad's scene. It's totally different when i'm watching Suleyman. I didn't skip any scene......
1:29 is when Sultana Kosem finally accepted, she had to do what is necessary to save her children. Bayzids mum new she had to be involved because inevitable the sultanate changes everyone for the worst. And her son Prince Bayazid was in the firing line. For a long time Senzande Bayad did not believe it, but eventually he accepted his fate, either ascend to the throne or eventually be killed (on trumped up charges). I am talking about the film not history. Even history is not always believable because remember "history is written by the victor"
1:17:32 Sinan Pasha was the perfect manipulator, LOL, and he portrayed his evilness quite well, indeed. He knew, precisely what to say to capture 👑Sultana Kosem's attention. 😆😆 •• GIGGLES •• 🤣🤣 Mustafa Pasha was thinking 🤔ahead to protect his own Offsprings with 👑Atike Sultana.
Poor murad scared much of his throne ,,he doesn't think of his actions,,, he already told that his enemy was his self ,,,and kosem will always be on his side ,,no used of woodman advice...he was blinded with fear that he would waken him...
Sad that cruella gulbahar again lied about the hidden pasha and someone else died because of that tyrant sinan. How long will he be protected? I want to see him die like a mad dog, really so angry about him escaping again and again..
All are wants to dethrone and sit the throne...since i watch this from SULTAN SULEIMAN and HURREM until tjis part never ending loneliness and traitorness....now i know that better you live in shanty house than to live inside palace......😢😢😢😢😢
I though Silahtar became a new man after 40 days. On the contrary, he became a living revenge-machine. I believe his hatred made his heart cold. Remember his last kiss on Attike's lips. It was as if he slapped her!
Just like when Murad went into the woods, after Ayse killed herself and their two kids. He also emerged not spiritually transformed/healed by his experience, but rather even worse off, psychologically. It's a very odd/counter-intuitive narrative.
Gulbahar got her son killed. Kosem did what she could to keep him alive. Now Gulbahar blames Kosem? Gulbahar was the biggest threat to her son but she never saw it.
It's weird, how in their eyes, the right of succession and fratricide automatically go hand in hand. As if the abolition of the 'succession of the eldest prince' automatically means, that the brothers of the Sultan will be killed. When in fact...why would they? They're much more likely to make trouble, while being seen as legitimate heirs, aren't they? If the Sultanate goes to Murad's children, on the other hand...the brothers should be less of a threat and therefore in less danger. And let's face it...having siblings inherit over legitimate children is an odd way to handle things, under any circumstances. It's against all human instinct. It can't work, almost. For who would want to pass over their own children for the sake of siblings?
i guess all of the people in the palace have a serious case of selective amnesia because while i agree gulbahar contributed greatly to bayezid's death why is kosem acting holier than thou? as she speaks of how bayezid betrayed the oh so great state, she literally was planning to removed murad from the throne so the good for nothing kasim can sit on it so erm its fine when u do it but is a crime and treason when someone else does the same exact thing? she is in fact the reason why her son dies as well so idk why kosem is running her mouth shamelessly right now 😐
honestly now I want to see the downfall of sultan Murad... everyone is literally saying that he is a brave n good sultan but no indeed he lost his humanity, he lost his mind. to be a good sultan u hv to be kind, justice, and brave. I know during his time he had a lot of traitors but taking life of people is not always an option, he took the life innocent people too which can be termed as cruelty and tyranny, he is a very inhuman and tyrant sultan, he got no mercy in his heart... being sultan does not mean you have the right to kill anyone you want to. That's a very illogical and psychotic behavior.
When power n greed reach someone's brain it can only harm n blindfolded one's eyes. Murad power's led him to be the cruelest person who doesn't even understand what his mother's existence in his life. He sees everyone his enemy who is after his throne.
Only the sons of the sultan can go to sanjak I guess.... Because if brother goes on sanjak , there could be a chance of forming army and starting a rebellion ....
No ..because in sultanate of woman...the prince stop go to sanjak..and its the biggest mistake because from it ..the empire start to full...the prince stay in palace and become coward or mad or just child dont know any thing about rule as sultan...
@@SwarnaLatha-lj3fw only the sultan son's are allowed to goes to sanjak beacause they are heir of the throne and have to practice how to rule a province so they can rule a dinasty
Post Sultan Suleiman era all the demented and mentally sick rulers headed the Ottoman empire. In their weird world of whimsical killings and obsession for the throne, where they got killed anyway, it was impossible to behave like a normal human being. Really sad
What kind of dumb sultan Murad is ☹️ He listens to everyone except his mother. He believed everything that darwesh in the forest said... But he didn't even consider that he also said kosem sultan will never leave you alone and will always be by your side... He never listens to his mother who has struggled so hard to keep her children safe and to make him the sultan. She lost her loved ones, her children still she protected him... He is a cruel loser 😠 He even listened to that witch gil bahar and believed her as well and killed his honest vazir without any investigation.... He was a mad suktan 😡
How well they act. Unbelievable level of acting prowess. Just look at Gulbahar crying over bayezid's body! I got goosebumps. And Ibrahim laughing maniacally!!! Hats off.
that's the start of transitioning of Ibrahim the Mad
With that laugh and expression the actor of Ibrahim could play the joker on batman
Yes, the actors this season are all phenomenal. It’s great that Ibrahim & Gulbahar are getting their chance to shine
Gulbahar is a very good actress
Yessss and the first actress playing kosem cried over her mehmat's body was also great acting
The production is obviously cheaper than the first version, but I have not seen a more shocking actress than the actress who plays Kiosem. Well done! It is really excellent! Incredible performance!
Somehow it feels like Silahtar actually is taking revenge for ruining his love life by supporting and encouraging Murad's injustice as he knows quite well it will bring disaster for Murad and Kosem. 😐
Exactly, Silahatar’s a horrible man. Silahatar was most responsible for Geverhan’s death. Now he’s turning Murad against his mother & his brothers. He’s also looking to turn Murad against his wife by questioning how she knew about Kosem summoning the advisory council. Kermankes even warned him that a war between Kosem & Murad would be terrible for everyone.
I admired more on sultan Ahmed ,his legacy and the way he handles pain of losing and betrayal by his own family ,,,he wven attempted to kill by his grandmother and mustafa made her ascend,,but he think first for the best of all ,,has always forgiveness in his heart,,its not death ,,ahmed listens to kosem and take solace to her,,,
Murad only remember what the madman said: one of your brother will ascend the throne ! But he refused to remember that the madman also said: *your mother will always be on your side * buat I can’t say the same about your brothers.
Ah exactlyyyyyyy, and he didn't even think he may die soon, he only thinks about someone dethrone him. Bro you're a padishah not a God!
He was thinking exactly about he's death stupid people because if he is dethroned that means death for him don't u have enough brain cells to understand that and to be padishah means God on earth because he rules the world so he is God on earth
Kosem was always on her sons side as long as they did what she said and wanted. Starting from Osman, she always wanted to rule. Make decisions and decide was wrong and right. But when her sons did stand against her, she didn't think twice to send them to their deaths. She was a power thirst and very greedy. She wanted the Suotan power to herself
@@honeststraightforward1485exactly I’m so done with the series trying to portrait her like an angel
He was not a madman, he was a woodsman. And he was right.
One thing is true in history of Ottomans..The name Bayezid is itself doomed that whoever will have this name will end up being a martyr in hands of the sultan 😂
Like mustafa
Sultan Bayezid I killed by Temur
Sultan Bayezid II killed by his son Sultan Selim I
Sehzade Bayezid son of Sultan Suleiman executed
Sehzade Bayezid son of Sultan Murad III
executed
Sehzade Bayezid son of Sultan Ahmed I executed
It's about time that someone got the right words to their scripts right. Thank you very much!!
the system should not be to kill brother after being sultan rather to kill all the step-mothers who had their own princes. It could stop all kinds of betrayal Against the sultan. Just like halime or gulbahar... If they were killed before, prince mustafa did not become mad or bayejid did not end up dead.....
You are very correct these ambitious mothers are the cause of their children's death
I agree with you
But once they set their eyes on the throne and especially if they great influence, they can raise their own army
Abolish the harem then not many “born a prince sultan”
Exactly:))))))
1:38:07 Haci is getting a dejavu when he used to serve Handan Sultan 😂
Lol he looked so uncomfortable it was hilarious 😂
Omg I remember, they're exactly seem like Handan and Dervish 😂
At least dervish expressed his feelings about her
@@asyaluay5174 after sultan ask kemankesh to marry Gevherhan, he did confess too... both of them favor each other... but they know.. their feeling can't go any further😂😂
😂😂😂ははは
They keep on telling Murad is cruel, but they keep on doing mistakes. What a people? 😅😅
Anyways I like Murad and Farya as I like Anastasia and Ahmed ❤❤❤
Exactly. But I’m starting to think Murad is no longer worthy of Farya. He is incredibly lucky she didn’t try to flee the palace or take her own life after he wanted to have her executed.
It's really difficult to choose a side. Murad wants to be a ruler and shows he is not mum ´s boy. And I can see why he is so angry at Kosem because she still wants to rule like years ago. On the other hands Murad did many bad things and I understand that Kosem tries to safe the state and her children.
I agree that murad did bad things out of anger but kosem only cared about her own power she even used her children for it and eventually killed her own son Ibrahim for power, if murad wasn’t strong enough she would’ve done the same thing to him. Ofc murad is not innocent too he wanted absolute power(and did a lot of bad things in the way) but as the sultan it was his right to have an absolute power
And i must say,those all traitors rise up in the era of kosems regency,that Murad have to be so cruel
Glad they had actual babies for the twins versus Murad's last child was just always a doll. Wasn't too fond of that. They usually pick such beautiful children and babies in this show and I love seeing them. Such an emotional performance when Ibrahim visits his nephews.
I just can't feel sorry for Beyazid's mom at all. She is the cause of his death. He was justly executed for treason. Sad, but true. It's not the same as the disgusting habit of killing off brothers or uncles when ascending the throne. That's barbaric.
Is it just me, or does Murat sometimes look like ibriham from the first series?
I think Bayzids mother just did what any other mother of the princes would do. Do anything to protect their son. Unfortunately most of the time it meant treason. If she succeeded it would not be called that. Because History back then was written by the winners.
While it’s true that Bayezid was executed for a valid reason, Murad caused Bayezid to betray him by forcing Bayezid to execute his true love Kalike Hatun. That as appallingly cruel, particularly when Murad couldn’t bring himself to execute his own true love. Suspect there may be some karma on its way for Murad on account of what he did to Bayezid & Kalike
Kemankes and kosem love team most exciting than others love team
Maybe but Gulbahar & Sinan Pasha are starting to give them a run for his money. Murad is lucky to have such an amazing & loyal wife holding the fort for him but he is too busy boozing with the boys to notice. And Silahatar is beyond horrible to his poor wife.
Murad calling his mom greedy where he himself scared of loosing his throne
Because he save the empire when he enthrone and become sultan...he work so hard for 8 years clean after what his mother destroy ..the empire of ottoman is his right because he have royal blood ..and know if his mother put her noise in empire affair ..she will destroy it again
He is scared to loose he's throne because u obviously have no idea what is happening when u lose it u must be killed so I don't think someone will prefer he's brothers to live and he to be killed
@@rls3745 right...his brother osman killed after he lost his throne..
@@dodihasan3388 exactly a'd ibrahim too when he's mother dethroned him after she killed him so that's why sultan murad was fighting so hard
@@rls3745 yes..in that era if you are weak you will die..if you are strong you will live
I start to hate how Silahtar manipulate Murad
He is evil to Kamankeš too… what an ashole
He is not manipulating him he is helping him to save he's life
He's WEAK
He will die
I agree. Silahatar is clearly trying to turn Murad against his mother, against his wife & against his brothers. Not to mention he is making Atike’s life miserable & he was mainly responsible for Geverhans death
How nice to say first when Murad is a kid ,, he is very brave and he is the right sultan , not a cruel .. now he become a must cruel , brother
I can only blame the system of concubine. Because of these..all mother(concubine) wanted to see their prince on the throne. If there was only one legal wife...that would not be happened. Someone will tell me that keeping concubines was necessary for the increasing the descent! No...it wasn't necessary because we can see Kosem sultan has given 8 children among them ...four were prince. That's means only one legal wife can increase the descent as well.
Correct is harem true or just a fiction
exactly, I just think it was some messed up excuse for the sultan to have multiple women when and how he please. let a woman try that and she willed be stoned in one. it's amazing how aids didnt exist in those days
Even hurrem give 4prrince to Suleiman..
@@xianne-is7ecexactly... Keeping concubine was just a luxurious matter of the Sultans.
I think the law "each mother, one sun" was because they didn't want to abolish fratricade and after hurrem, the chief consorts started to give birth to sultans.
It’s Silahatar who instilled in murad to abolishment of The Eldest Prince Law, Silahatar evilness has started to show off
yes he was murad downfall but kermankies killed the rat I didn't like him at all then the persian snake came
I dont like silahatar ...i hate him...but if you think little...Murad realy want to protect his brothers from their greed for the throne..and also protect them so they will not become puppet in their mother hand for her greed for the power...if she take any mistake move ..its will case her one of her children...murad want her to anderstand it...
You will understand that Murad was right all the times about his greedy mother in sultan Ibrahim era and his son muhamad...he know her for years...he see in his eyes how she greedy woman
BAYZIED betrayed his bro
What a evil jerk
Emir Guni is handsome & has a good conduct. The real making of a real Sultan.
Idk why do people say that Kosem has a greed for power where in fact she just wants to protect her children and even Sultan Murad tsk tsk I don't blame Kosem, I blame the people who surround the Sultan and their enemies but above all I blame Sultan Murad's alter ego because he won the fight and now Sultan Murad is so cruel huhu
Specially silahtar!!!!
She really does have a greed for power. It shows this later on. She is brutal
Just wait until Ibrahim and his son muhamad era so you will know how she is greedy for power..she will kill any one if he stand agiant her even if he is her son or her grandson..
then tell me d reason y she kill Murad if nt 4 d greed of power
I hope u watched the 59 and 60 episode to see how she killed Ibrahim from greed and after tried to kill a 9 years old kid for the throne 🤣
The Sehzades/Sultans in this show has similar personalities with the ones in MC.
Murad-Suleiman: Powerful and Short tempered
Ahmet-Mehmet: Calm and Pure hearted
Kasim-Selim: Selfish but realistic, respects their parents too
Ibrahim-Cihangir: Youngest, but with a good heart, loves their half brother the most.
Osman-Bayazid(MC): Gets betrayed by everyone
Both Mustafas are unique but they have the same bad fate. Mustafas suffered because of their mothers, one lost his life, the other lost his mental stability.
Poor Ibrahim, what a trauma since his birth. I always see that baby in the crib looking around innocently wondering what those shadows are lingering around. ( Black shadows of executors when they all were about to die and saved at last moment)
I doubt if he really remembers thats 2 much now😂
The fact that Kosem never considered that killing Bayezid would open the door to the same fate as her blood sons 🙄
she did her best to cover him, until he tried to kill her son.
I understand. But he should not have been killed. Exiled, locked in etc. But. It was a big error for her not to fight for his life. It allowed Murad to adjust to killing his brothers.
I wonder why kosem didn’t slapped gulbahar face when she’s still moaning for everything. She’s the one who killed her son. Kosem tried to protect all dinasty family’s
The pain of losing her son was more than enough now😂
why is gulbahar crying when she herself got him killed. Had she not returned to palace, he would have lived and infact may have attained high position in court.
In terms of the show yeah but in real life murad executed 2 other brothers alongside bayezid, one was kosems other son but he isn't mentioned anywhere in this series. Murad executed 4 of his brothers during his reign and probably his uncle Mustafa too but that's debated. Only Ibrahim survived lol.
what was the other sehzade name?@@TheFayeFairy
Please catch Sian pasha already 🤔😏
Haci is so underrated i swear
When they will catch Sinan pasha i wonder🙄
I wish they should tear hin into pieces
I know! I've had enough of him already!
Absolutely 😂
what a face😁
I hate sinan pasha
Poor Ibrahim he was a very innocent prince😢
first haji agha used to see handan and darvish, and now there is kosem and kemakesh 😂😂
1:37:00
What a pity
A man can sleep with uncountable women.
But a woman can't even love someone after her husband's demise.
Kosem and kamankesh are ❤️❤️.
Truly they love and support each other 💗
Which man? Sultans can only do that cuz they are sultans. Ur dead if ur a shehzadi’s husband and sleep with other women. Except for sultan’s wives, any widow woman can remarry
49:00 and no one pays attenrion which pasha is visiting galbahar? If there was a rustem pasha or pargali ibrahim instead of this stupid silahtar who blames kosem for everything, we wouldn't be waiting for other princes death scene.
Exactly
Right
If Murad had Ibrahim Pargali, Bali Bey, Zulkifar or Iskender instead of Silahatar- Ayse wouldn’t have been allowed to see her children alone & poison them. So Ahmed & Hanzade would still be alive not to mention Geverhan
After bayezid's death kasim and Ibrahim also couldn't live peacefully
At this point, Murad has become a dictator... He doesn't listen to anyone or value anyone... That point made by Yahya Effendi was excellent... Sultan Murad indeed survived and became the Sultan thanks to the law he is trying to abolish now...
Edit: He is getting brainwashed by Silahtar though and that too only because Silahtar is supporting his line of thought
Agreed. Though I’m a bit surprised that Kosem didn’t talk to Farya about the eldest prince law. Murray probably wouldn’t have listened even to Farya but i suspect Farya would have been persuaded & would at least have tried to talk to Murad.
Ibrahim's laugh was scary as well as painful
He was laughing like the joker 🃏 🤣
That wasn't laughing. That was hysteria, it was wicked of Kasim and Kemankes to let him watch. They should have taken him where he couldn't see.
The moment Murad abolished the Eldest Prince law and made fraticide legal again I lost all respect for him. Okay, he doesnt care for his brothers. Okay, he has given up on them and his own mother. Doesnt he think about his sons then? He knows the pain of both losing a brother and writing that death warrant. There is no win here and no excuse.
Kasim was greediest of all. He was sly... He tried to use Kosem to ascend the throne.
The screams behind laugh of Ibrahim 😓😓😥
😂😂😅🤣
1:03:50.... No comment. When you see it, you will not believe your ears! A mother is always powerful! 🌹Even behind bars...
the only problem with murad was literally himself. his own addiction to alcohol that finally killed himself, not his enemy neither his mother did it. he was known for fearless and powerful ruler againts his enemy but the major point is that he could not conquer himself the way he conquer baghad and tabriz.
Gulbahar is a mixture of Mahidevran and Halime. Mahidevran also used to blame Hurrem for all the bad things happening in her life, like even if a stone would trip her she would still blame Hurrem, same with Gulbahar, she blames Kosem for what happened to her child, Bayezid when it's her ambition and treachery that dragged Bayezid into being executed, it's like she did not learn from Halime.
Sehzade Mustafa was innocent himself but was killed due to his ambitious mother Mahidevran, similarly Sehzade Bayezid was kind but was killed because of his mother Gulbahar so sad had these mothers been wiser and instead waited their fate might have been different because both were the heir to the throne. Specially Kosem she would've let Bayezid rule if it weren't for her mother can't say the same about Hurrem because fratricide existed during her era. Kosem loved all the prince like their own mother but this Gulbahar messed up
Shehzade Mustafa was killed by Hurrem's greed of power, which took her own son's lives
The love and admiration that Kosem has for Murad is just adorable.
Which love and admiration when she was always plotting against him
She adored him so much she had a doctor poison him to kill him. Be glad when justice comes to kosem
@@asyaluay5174 till now she’s always been plotting behind him FOR him, not against him
*till now@@unknown_8588
*1:09:49**: Murad: My mother dethroned many sultans. 💀*
*Also his mother: 👑😉.*
If this is closed to the history, the real problem in their lives was inside the palace. They have all the wealth and material comfortability yet, peace of mind and freedom is very hard to achieve. So sad..
The main morality of this series is "Greed of power"
They prefer to be shadow ( conquer, cruelty, executions, bans, pride) instead of light. We are God's gift to be a Light on Earth. All, not just royalty.
@@BRILLIANCY_BLUNDER not only in this series darling, that's how it is in the world especially these days. people have become greedier for power, money, fame...
exactly, everyone seem to have their own agenda. sometimes I wonder which times were more cruel, if those days or nowadays.. only major difference is that there is "freedom of speech", but that doesnt even apply to every country in the world, some places the citizens cant say what they really want to without being victimize
Of all the prince apart from Murad, I love bayezid and Ibrahim the most.
I have never seen anyone pure in heart even when they have every reason to not be.
Silahtar is silently taking revenge for Gevehran's death from everyone.
I enjoy seeing the magnificent clothing. How hard the people worked making them. Is Mustafa still locked up?
Where else would he be
They don't care about him anymore
Kasim and Attike- the youngest children who are so spoilt they want everything to belong to them at any cost!
All the prince's that died was not their own fault they were innocent but their mother's signed their execution by being greedy and really that's not mothers love
Not Fayra
@@lindakrzyzewski6912 faraya wasn't in history she was a fictional character in the show
1:33:03 The music 🎶🎼🎵🎹🎻🎸🎺sounds divine, and the 💃dancing is🤗🥳🤩😍🥰😘 dramatic❕‼️❗
Mothers dragging their sons to treason yet claim Kosem was the bad one well all her crimes are to protect the State left to her by late Sultan Metmet
Sultan Ahmed🤣
You can now see Ibrahim is already starting to go mad, it only gets worse like a heir uncle Mustafa.
You cannot expect anything else.
In reality Ibrahim becomes Sultan with Kosem’s help and next his son stays in power for 38 years.
1:05:55 yeah my savage man, kemankesh 🔥😍
Murat weakness start bcoz he judged people without evidences he even trust people blindly in this series
Yes. This. He rules with anger rather than justice
1:38:07 Haci aga looking like ummm 🤨 omg I wonder what he was thinking… probably like no!! Not again! I’m just remembering Handan Sultan (Ahmed’s mom)
Haci agha will even show long face for handan Sultana And pasha .. Don't remember his name.. Dervish pasha😂
Murad the Sultan, yet scared losing his throne 😮
Just because Murad knows what he's future bring,he so confident of his sword and power.
I can't understand why in a historical movie they kept a fictional character like Farya and they didn't keep Ayse or someone else..
👏👏👏👏
i swear they are dragging a character that doesnt even exist for more than half of the series and have created a non existent narrative from that but were too lazy to write a story with a person that actually existed and outlived murad like what were the writers thinking
The magnificent century never was true history. But the series with Suleiman at least tried to keep the main historical figures. This series with Murad is one big nonsense. And I mean it if you would just watch this series you know hardly more about Sultan Murad 4. than you knew before. Bunch of princes are missing, there are made up characters everywhere (and plots but I get that since we simply do not have such a detailed information on how everything happened in RL to make a series out of it) and it's one big BS.
@@JustSomeSlavicBoy b
@@JustSomeSlavicBoyBoth fiction, even Suleiman era Part has too many fiction. The only good part was Mustafa, it had little fiction.
Kasim will lost his head too. He also infected with the throne
Huis....😓 fedup of murat blaming of his mother...
Silahtar!! He's pitting Murad against Kosem! 🤬
Its because he couldn't marry the woman he loved who killed herself because of this
He's taking revenge through Murad's own fears. The real snake 😕
Murad is the one who greed and arrogant as well. No wisdom at all....While watching Kosem, mostly i skip Murad's scene. It's totally different when i'm watching Suleyman. I didn't skip any scene......
No other Persian danced better than Firuze in MC 1
😂😂😂
When she was dancing I was thinking okay wave my arms around I can do that… Until she did that head back thing I’m like oh no I would’ve fell LOL
Firuze en güzeli
Strippers do dance well
1:29 is when Sultana Kosem finally accepted, she had to do what is necessary to save her children. Bayzids mum new she had to be involved because inevitable the sultanate changes everyone for the worst. And her son Prince Bayazid was in the firing line. For a long time Senzande Bayad did not believe it, but eventually he accepted his fate, either ascend to the throne or eventually be killed (on trumped up charges). I am talking about the film not history. Even history is not always believable because remember "history is written by the victor"
They have a lot of written documents preserved from the time of the Ottoman Empire. There is a special library full of them in Turkey
1:17:32 Sinan Pasha was the perfect manipulator, LOL, and he portrayed his evilness quite well, indeed. He knew, precisely what to say to capture 👑Sultana Kosem's attention. 😆😆 •• GIGGLES •• 🤣🤣
Mustafa Pasha was thinking 🤔ahead to protect his own Offsprings with 👑Atike Sultana.
His offspring have no problem they can't be heirs
Poor murad scared much of his throne ,,he doesn't think of his actions,,, he already told that his enemy was his self ,,,and kosem will always be on his side ,,no used of woodman advice...he was blinded with fear that he would waken him...
Sad that cruella gulbahar again lied about the hidden pasha and someone else died because of that tyrant sinan. How long will he be protected? I want to see him die like a mad dog, really so angry about him escaping again and again..
All are wants to dethrone and sit the throne...since i watch this from SULTAN SULEIMAN and HURREM until tjis part never ending loneliness and traitorness....now i know that better you live in shanty house than to live inside palace......😢😢😢😢😢
Farya was definitely infertile but had twins 😂 Did not see that coming! I assumed she would lose the child.
Kosem keeps fueling her son's insecurities with her actions. She should have refrained from convening the council and challenging his edict
So this is how sultan ibrahim became mad and kasim dies of sickness 😢😢😢
Really i wouldn't like to live knowing my brother could kill me when he feels like it omg
Seeing Kasim and Ibrahim be locked up was painful.
Gulbahar had no reason to blame Kösem. She caused Beyazid's death by poisoning him. 😢
I though Silahtar became a new man after 40 days. On the contrary, he became a living revenge-machine. I believe his hatred made his heart cold. Remember his last kiss on Attike's lips. It was as if he slapped her!
Just like when Murad went into the woods, after Ayse killed herself and their two kids.
He also emerged not spiritually transformed/healed by his experience, but rather even worse off, psychologically.
It's a very odd/counter-intuitive narrative.
The way he squished Atike's face like a marshmello was hilarious and frightening
1:20:16 ibrahim looks like wearing kosem's dress 🤣
Lol
I miss the old kosem
Gulbahar got her son killed.
Kosem did what she could to keep him alive. Now Gulbahar blames Kosem?
Gulbahar was the biggest threat to her son but she never saw it.
It's weird, how in their eyes, the right of succession and fratricide automatically go hand in hand. As if the abolition of the 'succession of the eldest prince' automatically means, that the brothers of the Sultan will be killed. When in fact...why would they? They're much more likely to make trouble, while being seen as legitimate heirs, aren't they? If the Sultanate goes to Murad's children, on the other hand...the brothers should be less of a threat and therefore in less danger.
And let's face it...having siblings inherit over legitimate children is an odd way to handle things, under any circumstances. It's against all human instinct. It can't work, almost. For who would want to pass over their own children for the sake of siblings?
i guess all of the people in the palace have a serious case of selective amnesia because while i agree gulbahar contributed greatly to bayezid's death why is kosem acting holier than thou? as she speaks of how bayezid betrayed the oh so great state, she literally was planning to removed murad from the throne so the good for nothing kasim can sit on it so erm its fine when u do it but is a crime and treason when someone else does the same exact thing? she is in fact the reason why her son dies as well so idk why kosem is running her mouth shamelessly right now 😐
This actor sultan Murad looks like Pakistani television actor Billal Abbas 😷
Both of them are 💥💥
honestly now I want to see the downfall of sultan Murad... everyone is literally saying that he is a brave n good sultan but no indeed he lost his humanity, he lost his mind. to be a good sultan u hv to be kind, justice, and brave. I know during his time he had a lot of traitors but taking life of people is not always an option, he took the life innocent people too which can be termed as cruelty and tyranny, he is a very inhuman and tyrant sultan, he got no mercy in his heart... being sultan does not mean you have the right to kill anyone you want to. That's a very illogical and psychotic behavior.
When power n greed reach someone's brain it can only harm n blindfolded one's eyes. Murad power's led him to be the cruelest person who doesn't even understand what his mother's existence in his life. He sees everyone his enemy who is after his throne.
08:19 the amount of hypocrisy this lady has is just unfathomable
Sultan Murad is a dictator! 😂😂😂 Nothing new in the ancient leadership!
when will this silahtar fall from grace? I mean i want him to disappear he is too arrogant 🙄
Bayezid was a true prince....my heart bled for him 😢
I don't see at all Sultana Kösem greeds of power. She just protecting her children and Ottoman dynasty
I dont understand y no one goes to sanjak in this series
Only the sons of the sultan can go to sanjak I guess.... Because if brother goes on sanjak , there could be a chance of forming army and starting a rebellion ....
No ..because in sultanate of woman...the prince stop go to sanjak..and its the biggest mistake because from it ..the empire start to full...the prince stay in palace and become coward or mad or just child dont know any thing about rule as sultan...
Its start because the evil safyie sultan.. she order her son muhamad to stop the prince to go sanjak and then its become law later in kosen era
@@SwarnaLatha-lj3fw only the sultan son's are allowed to goes to sanjak beacause they are heir of the throne and have to practice how to rule a province so they can rule a dinasty
1:27:18 👑The Sultan threatened her right back, yet she still assembled the council behind his back.
They killed Boran Alp, Osman won't be happy
Right, and Cerkutay Alp betrayed both his boss and BF, being with Murads side 🥲😅
@@sosonur921 🤣🤣🤣
Hahahahahaaa..
True words by Gulbahar. Killing a tyrant like Murad is justice not betrayal.
Kosem had marad poisoned and she killed her grandbabies of marad and Farah. She is evil to the core
kasim beyazidin kuyusunu kazdi simdi cani tatli ama
Murad sons were named after two powerful sultans- Suleyman and Selim. I' m wondering if both will grow as prince.
Unfortunately they will die
No
No. Kosem killed them and poisoned marad
Post Sultan Suleiman era all the demented and mentally sick rulers headed the Ottoman empire. In their weird world of whimsical killings and obsession for the throne, where they got killed anyway, it was impossible to behave like a normal human being. Really sad
What kind of dumb sultan Murad is ☹️ He listens to everyone except his mother.
He believed everything that darwesh in the forest said... But he didn't even consider that he also said kosem sultan will never leave you alone and will always be by your side... He never listens to his mother who has struggled so hard to keep her children safe and to make him the sultan. She lost her loved ones, her children still she protected him... He is a cruel loser 😠
He even listened to that witch gil bahar and believed her as well and killed his honest vazir without any investigation.... He was a mad suktan 😡
1:37:10
This bgm ❤️❤️
Murad had at least 15 sons and 13 daughters, yet this series hardly touches on that fact.