I don't want a driveable iPhone. I don't want a car that can recognize my mistakes. I don't want a car that uses my location data. I want a machine that is reliable, and easy to fix when its components fail. I want a car that i have complete control over. I do not want an offroading jeep that tells me to buy water.
So many questions, so many ethical decisions we are forced to leave to these companies with minimal insight into which companies are making the right decisions. Well done Derek!
Continuosly updates = pay us on a subscription format or else your purchased vehicle will become obsolete = never stop paying us for your car ... yes think smart phone where the companies make money from your data...
I want new features and etc. However, as an IT professional, I'd much rather have my car not be spying on me and collecting data that corporations can sell. The car should be the product, not the owner of the car. I'm actively looking at buying a pre computer car. This level of spyware is scary.
Already a thing. If you own a Tesla Model 3 AWD, you can pay $2000 on the app to download something like 50 horsepower. Presumably there would be a lot more warranty repairs for premature motor failures if they gave it to everybody for free, so they made it more reliable, and likely use the money to cover the extra repairs. But this isn't a new thing either: you can take basically any car made in the last 30 years to a tuner, have them plug in a device, and tube in some more power at the expense of reliability. It's just that Tesla makes it easier because of over the air updates.
This is the death of the private car, driving is getting less and less exciting and the point is to feel like you are travelling inside a living room or an office what is stopping them to create a platform of shelfdriving cars that will pick you up like an uber for a flat rate? The answer are laws, but tbh it seems that it is going to happen sooner than we think.
The data extracted from these vehicles is worth more then the cost of making the said car. Your infotainment already has a full access to your data, that alone can be used against you in the court of law. Now imagine a car that will not stop tracking you, is always connected and you have no control over, ohh and forget about being able to fix it yourself. This Agile style (minimum viable product) of building vehicles needs to stop, you will end up with too many iterations of the HW and impossibility of fixing it due to compatibility.
I just need a throttle pedal (with a cable) and a steering wheel. I want full control of the vehicles total power at my foot and full control of the vehicles power delivery through a manual transmission. We already have too many people on the road now who don't know how to drive and shouldn't be on the road. Learn to drive and know your vehicle before you enter the road an put others at risk!!! If you have difficulties concentrating on the road due to children or other distractions...either learn to drive with those distractions (ie. have control over your children) or stay off the road. We don't need rolling entertainment systems. All the garbage on a car being made today are for people who had difficulties understanding how to drive (the physics of driving) has diminished the driving experience. (traction control/abs) While there are still cars like that available (simplified sports cars)...cars that are mostly available to people that are affordable are usually a dumbed down, neutered experience. They aren't car lovers...they're marketeers.
Fascinating video. Makes me wonder if the automotive mergers of the near future wont be between automakers, but between automakers merging with tech companies.
I have no interest in any of these vehicles.. I hate that my headlights are controlled by a computer, and when they stop working I have to replace a $500 computer instead of a $5 relay that everyone carries. No parts store stocks the computer!
I love all the "no, thanks" comments so far. People come to expect these big brother features which are not needed in the first place, so of course you need to upgrade them after time. If only people would actually just DRIVE THEIR CARS, they probably wouldn't care about Skynet being able to collect all of our data and update things over the air. Maybe in a couple years these same people will talk about how great the movie Wall-E is and we should appreciate being mind-numbed passengers in our own cars drinking Big Gulps and paying zero attention to the world around us.
What about the other way around? I don't listen to SiriusXM, I don't want to pay for it. Same thing with the heated car seats, I don't think I benefit from it, I will not subscribe to it and save some money. If I can afford it some day, I can subscribe to it later.
@@aamcheecricket Sirius is a service not a physical feature of the vehicle. It's like buying a phone and having to pay to enable the GPS chip that's already there...
Let's find a way to turn a car that someone pays for into a subscription service. Then, like a subscription service, let's sell the customer's data also. This is a terrible trend.
This doesnt sound beneficial to the driver at all, this is just buisness trying to find ways of charging 'customers' for as many things as possible, and sell data. I wouldnt buy a car that has an internet connection, ever
You can say the same thing about the app stores. You should consider the examples like Pay-as-you-go Insurance. In that case, if you drove 100 miles, you only pay Insurance by miles.
surprisingly, they never went away. They went into Cyber Security. Sold the phone rights to Motorola who have tried every so often to make a new Blackberry
I don't want a driveable iPhone. I don't want a car that can recognize my mistakes. I don't want a car that uses my location data.
I want a machine that is reliable, and easy to fix when its components fail. I want a car that i have complete control over. I do not want an offroading jeep that tells me to buy water.
This seems to be a cultural disconnect. Some of the population wants it, some don’t.
So many questions, so many ethical decisions we are forced to leave to these companies with minimal insight into which companies are making the right decisions. Well done Derek!
Continuosly updates = pay us on a subscription format or else your purchased vehicle will become obsolete = never stop paying us for your car ... yes think smart phone where the companies make money from your data...
I want new features and etc. However, as an IT professional, I'd much rather have my car not be spying on me and collecting data that corporations can sell.
The car should be the product, not the owner of the car. I'm actively looking at buying a pre computer car. This level of spyware is scary.
This is the most dystopian thing a car guy can watch
Ahh, so now I can pay a subscription to unlock the full HP that my vehicle already has, that sounds soo cooll! Thanks guys
Already a thing. If you own a Tesla Model 3 AWD, you can pay $2000 on the app to download something like 50 horsepower. Presumably there would be a lot more warranty repairs for premature motor failures if they gave it to everybody for free, so they made it more reliable, and likely use the money to cover the extra repairs. But this isn't a new thing either: you can take basically any car made in the last 30 years to a tuner, have them plug in a device, and tube in some more power at the expense of reliability. It's just that Tesla makes it easier because of over the air updates.
This is the death of the private car, driving is getting less and less exciting and the point is to feel like you are travelling inside a living room or an office what is stopping them to create a platform of shelfdriving cars that will pick you up like an uber for a flat rate? The answer are laws, but tbh it seems that it is going to happen sooner than we think.
The data extracted from these vehicles is worth more then the cost of making the said car. Your infotainment already has a full access to your data, that alone can be used against you in the court of law. Now imagine a car that will not stop tracking you, is always connected and you have no control over, ohh and forget about being able to fix it yourself. This Agile style (minimum viable product) of building vehicles needs to stop, you will end up with too many iterations of the HW and impossibility of fixing it due to compatibility.
I just need a throttle pedal (with a cable) and a steering wheel.
I want full control of the vehicles total power at my foot and full control of the vehicles power delivery through a manual transmission.
We already have too many people on the road now who don't know how to drive and shouldn't be on the road. Learn to drive and know your vehicle before you enter the road an put others at risk!!!
If you have difficulties concentrating on the road due to children or other distractions...either learn to drive with those distractions (ie. have control over your children) or stay off the road.
We don't need rolling entertainment systems.
All the garbage on a car being made today are for people who had difficulties understanding how to drive (the physics of driving) has diminished the driving experience. (traction control/abs)
While there are still cars like that available (simplified sports cars)...cars that are mostly available to people that are affordable are usually a dumbed down, neutered experience.
They aren't car lovers...they're marketeers.
Fascinating video. Makes me wonder if the automotive mergers of the near future wont be between automakers, but between automakers merging with tech companies.
I have no interest in any of these vehicles.. I hate that my headlights are controlled by a computer, and when they stop working I have to replace a $500 computer instead of a $5 relay that everyone carries. No parts store stocks the computer!
How would you break your computer? The computer is going to stop you before you hit anything.
I love all the "no, thanks" comments so far.
People come to expect these big brother features which are not needed in the first place, so of course you need to upgrade them after time. If only people would actually just DRIVE THEIR CARS, they probably wouldn't care about Skynet being able to collect all of our data and update things over the air.
Maybe in a couple years these same people will talk about how great the movie Wall-E is and we should appreciate being mind-numbed passengers in our own cars drinking Big Gulps and paying zero attention to the world around us.
Let me sum up this video: The subscription for your heated seats has expired, please link your credit card to our main server for further service...
What about the other way around? I don't listen to SiriusXM, I don't want to pay for it. Same thing with the heated car seats, I don't think I benefit from it, I will not subscribe to it and save some money. If I can afford it some day, I can subscribe to it later.
@@aamcheecricket Sirius is a service not a physical feature of the vehicle. It's like buying a phone and having to pay to enable the GPS chip that's already there...
Let's find a way to turn a car that someone pays for into a subscription service. Then, like a subscription service, let's sell the customer's data also. This is a terrible trend.
Sorry Dennis!
BMW currently testing a subscription model for heated seats.
When software is the driver of the product, expect paywalls.
Tesla pioneered almost all of the topics covered here. Even if you don’t prefer their cars, you have to recognize the impact to the industry.
Absolutely! Tesla sow the seed. Blackberry is enabling all the cars to communicate with each other, securely.
Agreed
The larry burns guy scared me. He said iphine rather than smart phone. I just imagened a car where others tell me how to use it and what i need.
SDV = Data monetizing
Intelligence agencies will have more information and control
This doesnt sound beneficial to the driver at all, this is just buisness trying to find ways of charging 'customers' for as many things as possible, and sell data. I wouldnt buy a car that has an internet connection, ever
You can say the same thing about the app stores. You should consider the examples like Pay-as-you-go Insurance. In that case, if you drove 100 miles, you only pay Insurance by miles.
You say that, but most cars nowadays Have internet connections. You can’t escape it.
@@ProjectCovenant Oh I can, I just dont buy modern cars. Saves me a fortune in depreciation 👌
@@wefwefwef. 90s cars won’t last forever
Less and less privacy every year
Ahh Blackberry a company I haven't heard for a while..
surprisingly, they never went away. They went into Cyber Security.
Sold the phone rights to Motorola who have tried every so often to make a new Blackberry
Some of it sounds good, some of it sounds meh, a lot of it sounds horrific.
Sad future for cars...
Have you driven an EV yet?
@@aamcheecricket Yes, it was impressive. My opinion is ...I want to drive, not to be driven
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