test is trash. i ran dell test. said i need new hard drive. i turned sideways and blasted with $5 fan and highly decreased temps and retested with ZERO issues and ultra setting capabilities. They build laptops like most appliances full of throw away trash parts bought at lowest bid for biggest profit.
+Exlecticution my dell Inspiron 15R (5537) bought in April of 2014 died after two years. Yes, two years... I was using a laptop cooler when gaming but the laptop died, fuck it.
+Android Gaming nooo the i7 was Ultra low voltage, he was never over 80ºand 85º in summer No idea about the gpu, an amd lol But after more than a year and a half the system was unstable, loosing wifi, no Bluetooth, and touchpad no responsive sometimes. I should have called dell bcse in France we have a 2 years warranty, but after the dell warranty of one year, we have to prove we re not the cause of the issue (pretty hard to prove lol) I will never buy a laptop over 500€ again
+BaboonArt i also have a dell laptop that has an intel core i7 5500u i think and a geforce gtx 840m i used to play csgo smoothly but after a couple of months it started throttling i guess because the game was getting a bit sluggish so iam planning to buy a laptop cooler like the havit cooler
My laptop used to get up to 100 Celsius and crash while playing Skyrim. It was so hot it would burn my hands and fingers, and the fans blew out air so hot that they once melted a stick of deodorant I accidentally left by my laptop. One day I just got sick of it and ordered a super nice cooling pad and one of those vacuum fans that attaches to the exhaust vents. Now my CPU doesn't get above 65 and my gpu never above 75. The fans helped a ton, so I can personally say they work. Skyrim didn't crash after that either.
I've done that they both do about the same work. I have a really good cooling pad, so it pushes a ton of air through the laptop, then the vent pulls it out on the other end. Maybe its just intake vent placement for yours. My fan blows directly into it. Plus my GPU is on the otherside where I dont have another vent vacuum fan.
Jesus my laptop is clean as it gets. I dismantle it for cleaning every couple weeks it makes no difference. My laptop just has a very poor cooling setup like most laptops.
+Steve Ozone mine's got an intel processor but has a radeon graphics card and yes, this shit heats as hell as always, linus testing on hardware very few people has why desn't he test any "average" laptop with a discrete gpu? that shit has more vents than I have money whereas my laptop has ony one air in and one air out with that vent like most laptops
I have a notebook cooler and it works great! My laptop used to be around 80 degrees Celsius but now it's around 60-70 degrees Celsius and my games are now getting a few extra fps. So it's worth it. I know the temps before are still good, but because I overclock my laptop I want to decrease the temperature as much as possible.
Cooling pads were never meant to increase performance (how could they? Its not an extra RAM, CPU or anything like that), but decrease heat stress on the laptop, so why test performane when it wont affect it (short term at least)? The only relevant thing to test if it increases cooling, and it did, so it works.
I think they were testing thermo throttling so without the cooler they expected it to cut back and thus lose performance compared to the cooler pad which would stop throttling and result in higher performance
Calle Nilsson but when the PC is cooler doesnt it run faster, beacuse when my PC overheats i get FPS drops all the time. And when i use a normal desk fan i dont get any FPS drops
I thought the point of a laptop cooler was to prolong the life of the laptop not to boost performance. As you said, "...heat is one of the biggest factors when it comes to premature hardware death." Isn't that reason enough to recommend using a laptop cooler?
@Hatwox yes but the fact that it gets to those high temps and then only throttles is what hurts the hardware anyway,keeping it cool at ALL times will prolong it so much more
+Erik Murin Because they take a wide shot for the whole video and then zoom when they want to do reactions, or focus or something in the frame. Nobody behind the camera I guess. When you have a frame that's 1080p and zoom in on a small portion of it it'll be lower resolution.
So I do my own test and this is the result. What I use = Cooler Master Notepal CMC3 and CINEBENCH R15 The result Using Cooling Pad CINEBENCH Score CPU = 318 cb OpenGL = 44.97 fps Temperature CPU = MAX 77C CPU1 = MAX 77C CPU2 = MAX 77C CPU3 = MAX 64C CPU4 = MAX 64C GPU = MAX 54C NOT using Cooling Pad CINEBENCH Score CPU = 318 cb OpenGL = 44.89 fps Temperature CPU = MAX 80C CPU1 = MAX 80C CPU2 = MAX 80C CPU3 = MAX 69C CPU4 = MAX 69C GPU = MAX 60C I hope this helps.
For some unknown reason, this video showed on my feed today on November 2019. I had great time watching your videos back in the days. Miss you my old friend, NCIX.
What a sloppy and messed up review Linus , you usually do a better job .... The main goal of those laptop coolers is not to bring performance into the table at all man .. BUT temps reduction and the associated benefits it will provide to the cramped hardware inside that portable system , the real goal of any laptop cooler review is to determine if that specific product really works, when you game on with a USD$ 2500+ gaming laptop for 8 hours and you want at least -10C outta the GPU / CPU by using one of these on a flat clean surface, sadly that MSI unit you decided to use (thanks god it wasn't the fancy razer) is not the best sample unit to test out this , you should have used a bigger unit such as the MSI GT70-GT72 , alienware M17/M18 , asus ROG 17 , we are talking about high end REAL frying pans !
Old video, but I'd like to say that the best cooler I've *ever* used was a Notepal U3 Plus cooler. You could place the fans where you needed them which meant a truly customizable laptop cooler. I've had a couple others with a single fan in the middle and channels that supposedly would let hot / cool air flow that plain out sucked.
For anyone watching this in 2019 and on. If you can take the lid off the bottom of your laptop and let the fans blow directly on the cpu and gpu you can see double the reduction in cooling temps and it will make a difference in performance im you are already boardering the thermal throttle points
Linus should do the same but with the New Macbook and see if a notebook cooler help that shit get better performance similar to his watercooling video.
+Crimson Koba I think that's the sort of laptop that most coolers are meant for now; small form factor, shit cooling, but high performance. Obviously that last one doesn't apply to the macbook, but still.
+DUCKDUDE4100 that did make me chuckle. I recently checked the "build your macbook" thing on their website and the best GPU you can get in a £2k (in price conversion it's like $3k, but Apple seems to just replace the $ with £ when selling here in the UK, so it would be cheaper across the pond) Macbook Pro is the AMD R9 M280X, which is worse than the GTX 860M in my £500 Clevo W230SS
Hi. Before I found your video I did a similar temperature measurement like you did because I was curious how effective the laptop coolers are. Funny I was testing the same Cooler Master X3, just with an older and weaker laptop - MSI GE60 0NC (with GeForce GT 650M). I ran Unigine Heaven benchmark loop for 2 hours for each setting to get a stable temperature (now I know that cca 30 minutes would be enough to reach that stable point), having the turbo fan in my laptop turned on max speed all the time to eliminate the variability in laptop's own cooling during the test. I got similar results to yours, with same insignificant differences in temperatures like you did. GPU temperatures on full load: On desk - 61°C; On passive pad (pad's fan turned off) - 60°C; On pad with pad's fan on - 58°C. As a bonus I tried to remove the bottom cover of my notebook and let the cooling pad's fan blow the air directly on the heatsink :-) On pad with pad's fan on and removed laptop's bottom cover - 50°C.Yeah, the notebooks have a very good cooling systems by themselves now and unless your air outlets are full of dust blocking the airflow, the laptop is able to cool down itself very well and you won't experience thermal throttling (automatic underclocking - slowing down - of your GPU or CPU to cool it down). So the pads won't increase performance of the laptops as they are running on highest speed with their own cooling already. Maybe overclockers may like some few more degrees that'll allow them push their clock even higher.
my laptop used to run into the hundreds and this model brought it down to the eighties (after modifying the bottom cover of the laptop to receive greater airflow into the components). my laptop no longer shuts off by itself, so I would say the cooler has made a difference
I have a lenovo y50 and using a laptop cooler (x2 fans) my computer runs 23% cooler. It also performs better, and doesnt sound like on its last breathe of life! Its very usefull if you have a monitor and keyboard set up for your laptop on your desk for working at home, Its petty nice. My laptop is actually cold, instead of steaming. There only $20 bucks for a decent one, and i say its def worth it!
Rirehu99 i love my laptop. This is my 2nd lenovo product and their keyboards and design are great. I have 4k model with the 860m which i got on ebay a year and a half ago for about 570 bucks. I recommend going with bang for buck. If your looking for a school computer, and something to play overwatch on, then its great. But i buy second hand. I would look at other laptops like asus or something, and see what is the best bang for the buck. But the lenovo y50 is a solid option.
hey,the x2 fans is the cooler master one? and what do u think of havit www.toptenreviews.com/computers/peripherals/best-laptop-coolers/havit-hv-review/ for the y50?
I don't usually comment negatively in this kind of videos, but this review was pretty pointless, since you picked a gaming laptop and tested it... Idle... Gaming laptops tend to reach 80-85 degrees Celsius which is why I wanted to know if it's any good.
You should try replacing thermalpaste on a laptop and see if there is a difference because the stock thermalpaste (and the sheer volume of it) looks horrible on most laptops.
+Tommi_6o I didn't get too much of a thermal change on my Lenovo Y580 when idling, but load temps improved a good bit (around 7-10C--the original paste was dried up and was never that great to begin with). I used Corning TC5121 that I got with my BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 and it works pretty well, but the tube doesn't come with much.
+Tommi_6o i did this on an old asus gaming laptop (and cleaned out dust etc) got a performance boost and about 4 degrees drop in temperature. (it was cheap hardware store cooling paste)
I feel like this really depends on the placement of the vents in a laptop. Most gaming laptops have dedicated in/out air vents along the back (like the one in the video) and do a good job of cooling themselves, but others try to get away with as little cooling as possible for the sake of thinness. My laptop is an Acer Aspire, very thin, plastic, and it only has one cooling fan for the whole thing. Plus, the air intakes are all on the bottom, so sticking it on a cooling pad makes a massive difference - even compared to a flat table. Oh, and putting it on a bed makes it shut itself off from overheating D:
ok linus, what about a laptop like a he pavilion that isn't as optimized as that MSI laptop. my one is a bit older and doesn't have as many vents as antony's
I use a Cooler Master Notepal U3 Plus. It has a grilled surface and three 80mm adjustable fans with adjustable speed. But it's not very good to have the fans facing to the air intakes because it pushes a lot of dust into the laptop and it won't take long for the dust inside to prevent hot air to be blowned through the vents and therefore it will raise the CPU and GPU temperatures. It's best to use the pad without fans to just have more space between the laptop and the flat surface so the laptop fans have more airflow to cool the components easier.
wow this video is much more effective in 2020 since everyone is working from home now a days, and have a few laptops for sure. Long answers short. Laptop cooling Pads brings down temperatures by 4 - 8 degrees. And there are also laptop Blower fans which vacum the heat out and are portable. But now a days they started adding Dust filters, Extension ports like usb display audio, Docking Stations, wireless charging to make them feel worth. who knows they may make it a whole desktop. on a personal note, Dust filters is one of my favorites, because it actually helps a lot for where i am using the laptop. And for Blower fans i would recommended consulting with your IT person, because some of my clients have awesome performance increase on their systems, but sometimes in long run Blower-fans may damage the original system fans because some fans are designed to run steadily in a certain pace (push pull logic). Its like using a Blower behind a small table fan, it works but in long run it may impact the small fans bearing or mechanics.
But my laptop has one vent on the bottom and one hidden behind the hinge (Asus FlipBook TP550L) with an i5-5200U and 4 Gigs of ram) Can you try less powerful laptops on a maybe part 2? With more realistic choices that are less expensive?
loved the video, but would have been better for me if you had chosen a basic laptop or even just not one as nice as the MSI. I'm sure most users don't run to laptops as nice as that! And the performance on cooling would have been a lot more interesting/significant.
I found that regreasing the CPU/GPU every now and then helps the cooling, sometimes I have had to fabricate a copper shunt because of the OEM lack of a good heat transfer.
All wrong, it just has adapted hardware drawing the maximum from it without reaching critical temps during standard use (gaming). My laptop even retains it's boostclock of the cpu (3.5GHz) during the whole day. The only thing I notice is a somewhat loud cooling (fans) when not wearing headphones which is not a problem at all since when I don't wear headphones it'll do something light and use the iGPU instead ;-)
the heat pipes in my laptop definitely work. One of my internal fans died not too long ago and i found a replacement part that looked the same. Lo and behold, it's the exact same fan but the one that came inside my laptop has a heat pipe connected to it. I figured the heat pipe wasn't doing that much anyway so I swapped the fans and booted it up. I couldn't be more wrong. I load up Star Wars Battlefront 2 and my system was having an aneurysm because of how hot it was. Had to find the part with the heat pipes to resolve the issue.
after 8 years i turned my 2008 Alienware M15x into desktop. tuned sideways with industrial fan blowing high into vents providing high circulation. Cooling pads are shit and provide 0 artificial air flow opposed to a fan with exposed back end unline a pad with fans that have back ends restricting air current. Toss battery charger next to sideways laptop to decrease heat also and vuaaalaah! 10 fps top and gaming to 90fps. Usb and hdmi connected to 70" tv , keyboard n mouse. Please leave out basic comments about cleaning vents and thermal paste cus lets face it, this late in gaming and this should not be an ongoing issue of overheating. BUT IT IS!
Damn, im running an i7 6700 in my gaming laptop and i still never get above 60 celcius even after playing gta V on max settings at between 1080 and 4k for more than 5-6 hours
This is one of the big points I try to explain when I defend owning a gaming laptop. Every PC tower gamer likes to act like its still 2008 and you're wasting money on buying a gaming laptop. I've owned my Asus ROG G750 for almost 3 years now and the only thing i've upgraded were the Hard Drive (added a SSD) and RAM (12GB to 16GB, I didn't really NEED to I just wanted to). I can still play games like Starcraft 2 on max settings and it doesn't break a sweat. And people are like "Why not just have a PC then?" for the same reason anyone gets a laptop, so it can be easily moved without a lot of hassle.
LOL. My acer laptop get like 105 C on both cpu and gpu when streaming movies on a tv XDDD and it's standing on a normaly wooden table.. I got a decent laptop cooler and it helps a bit but still around 85-90 C at streaming xd
+Rickzzen dude your laptop is gonna die soon if you do that any more. my laptop threshold is 92 C for both my GPU and CPU. if i try to play video on it without an external cooler, it shuts off by itself because it runs so hot. I then put the laptop on a big frozen gel pack, still ran at 72 C while watching Netflix.
I've bought a laptop 5 months ago (i7 6700HQ, Nvidia gtx 950M, 8 RAM) and when plugged in and playing games on it (like Warface, Call of Duty 4, battlefield 3, gta 5, these kinds of games) I get CPU temp up to 90 degrees and when I put my hand on the side of the laptop it starts burning me after a few seconds and I can't keep it there anymore. On idle my CPU has around 50 degrees. You think I should clean it? I mean... how much dust could it gathered in 5 months? It's hard to take the back out, it is something in the middle that holds it (from inside) and I'm afraid that I'll break it if I force it to open. I have an Asus F550VX
You should have tried a laptop that overheats and throttles, it's absolutely logical that if your laptop is not overheating with intensive tasks, then you shouldn't see a performance drop and you won't see an increase if you cool it down either because for many laptops even 70 degrees can be pretty normal and won't throttle your cpu, if you had use it on a laptop that throttles when reaching a certain temperature then you would absolutely see a diference in there.
I started using a notebook cooler with four 1200rpm variable speed fans and noticed that the FPS on games like Star Wars Battlefront, Crysis 3, Mad Max etc. went up by 5-10fps consistently. All stock NVidia GPU, not overclocked or anything. Not a huge difference but for sure worth the price.
could you please redo this video without trying to "look/sound/be cool" ? Just give us the content ... so we don't have to look for some other channel that is more on the point without BS
For me i think everything inside the device gives you is fitted , like any products they have to tested it a lots of times to make it perfect, ensure what they tested will not fail you.
Zalman Notebook Coolers make a big difference in temps, had mine for over 4 years now still running strong and very quiet, without it it would reach 90 deg c under load, using it keeps it at least 10 deg cooler at around 80 deg c, great investment and keeps your lap cool!
I have a different Apple laptop (a 2012 MacBook Air at present) that I want to water cool, but in a sane way. I need to figure out a way to build a water block for it to rest on top of. I have three reasons for wanting to do this. One: lifespan. My previous MacBook Air may have failed due to overheating. Two: comfort. My laptop gets too hot to be comfortable to use on my lap, and the fans are a bit loud at full speed. Three: coolness factor.
i like to use my thermal pad more to cool my hands and keep the keyboard at a more ergonomic position when im gaming for extended periods of time then for the actual cooling properties, thats just a bonus.
Did so multiple times during this year. Even changed thermal paste. Energysaving mode helps, but is no good for gaming. Seems like the cooling just sucks, but as of now, I hevan´t experienced thermal throtteling. I guess this is fine then.*****
I have a Dell Inspiron n5110, i7 2670QM. All Vents clean, Thermal Paste is still wet and perfectly fine. And it throttles when you play any game. Literally. A cooling pad helped but now my Acer uses it as I primarily game on it. My Dell is lifted at the back to make sure it stays at a toasty 60c idle and a sexy 70c doing anything else up to 80c in Chrome.
I don't know who you were talking to Linus but I have never heard someone say that they use there notebook coolers to enhance performance coolers are used for prolonging your notebook's life .
If its a little bit faster or slower thats fine because the change in performance seems small. I really want to get a cooling pad now, specifically one that has little noise. If you have a cooling pad or cooling thingy it can really help your laptops battery life improve and longevity of the whole system because programs like music ones especially, some games, and some videos even make a lot of Macbooks and PCs hot.
If you want to blow some extra dust into your laptop, this is your thing. Otherwise just stay away from it. Keeping your internal cooler dustfree and in shape will do the job. If not, you're probably asking more from your laptop than it's designed for which means you've bought the wrong model. Coolermaster makes briliant stuff and I am a big fan of them. I wonder what made them sell these things :/
Will get one of those vacuum laptop coolers, the one where you stick it to the exhaust vent. I hear those are more effective than cooling pads. Already own a cooling pad myself, temps are no good in GTAV
I have a Lenovo y50-70, with a core i7 4720HQ and GTX 960m. The thing is that when I'm playing Dragon Age Inquisition or Fallout 4, the laptop gets really hot, to the point where a safety measure is activated that decreases the power to the CPU (I think) and then my FPS drop to 15-20's (unplayable). The solution was to lift the laptop a little bit over the surface so more cool air could be used by the PC, and it worked! (still gests hot, but not to the point of frames dropping). So I'd say that in these cases is where a cooling pad (or something to lift the laptop) becomes necessary.
I have an Asus X550J. It has a i7 4720HQ and a 950M. I have a laptop cooler which makes it sit higher at an angle. Never had any problems with Dragon Age Inquisition, Witcher 3 or Fallout 4. CPU or GPU would reach the 80's at the most. The problem is GTA V. My CPU reaches 99! WTF! Had it cleaned and reapplied thermal paste....still the same! Am now wondering if a better cooling pad or one of those coolers where you stick it to the exhaust vents will work better.
It's worth noting that this is for gaming laptops. My midrange laptop doesn't have the same cooling solutions and temperature throttling is a real concern when I'm pushing it. If the cooler can keep the laptop out of throttling ranges (as mine does) you're talking 10+ fps performance gains.
you should have done this test with a laptop that overheats
test is trash. i ran dell test. said i need new hard drive. i turned sideways and blasted with $5 fan and highly decreased temps and retested with ZERO issues and ultra setting capabilities. They build laptops like most appliances full of throw away trash parts bought at lowest bid for biggest profit.
+Exlecticution my dell Inspiron 15R (5537) bought in April of 2014 died after two years. Yes, two years... I was using a laptop cooler when gaming but the laptop died, fuck it.
+BaboonArt probably the laptop cooler was to weak to that it didnt help at all with the cooling
+Android Gaming nooo the i7 was Ultra low voltage, he was never over 80ºand 85º in summer
No idea about the gpu, an amd lol
But after more than a year and a half the system was unstable, loosing wifi, no Bluetooth, and touchpad no responsive sometimes.
I should have called dell bcse in France we have a 2 years warranty, but after the dell warranty of one year, we have to prove we re not the cause of the issue (pretty hard to prove lol)
I will never buy a laptop over 500€ again
+BaboonArt i also have a dell laptop that has an intel core i7 5500u i think and a geforce gtx 840m i used to play csgo smoothly but after a couple of months it started throttling i guess because the game was getting a bit sluggish so iam planning to buy a laptop cooler like the havit cooler
I use my AMD laptop to heat my house.
Cairo Murphy rly my AMD laptop can't heat a house
@@Kuri0 ur AMD is trash
@@felixmejia4061 k
@@Kuri0 100/10 response
I use my AMD laptop as a barbecue grill
My laptop used to get up to 100 Celsius and crash while playing Skyrim. It was so hot it would burn my hands and fingers, and the fans blew out air so hot that they once melted a stick of deodorant I accidentally left by my laptop. One day I just got sick of it and ordered a super nice cooling pad and one of those vacuum fans that attaches to the exhaust vents. Now my CPU doesn't get above 65 and my gpu never above 75. The fans helped a ton, so I can personally say they work. Skyrim didn't crash after that either.
I've done that they both do about the same work. I have a really good cooling pad, so it pushes a ton of air through the laptop, then the vent pulls it out on the other end. Maybe its just intake vent placement for yours. My fan blows directly into it. Plus my GPU is on the otherside where I dont have another vent vacuum fan.
Clean out ur laptop xD
Jesus my laptop is clean as it gets. I dismantle it for cleaning every couple weeks it makes no difference. My laptop just has a very poor cooling setup like most laptops.
+Randy Perkes Ok then. But damn bro
Jesus I know Jesus, I'm just praying to finish up the PC I'm building. It'd be great if you told god to send some blessings my way.
Man old Linus is annoying lol. I like 2019 Linus much better.
Im pretty sure has was trying to impersonate someone when he talked like a "cooler"
it is pretty horrible yeh
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Whats so different? Linus is Linus
I had an AMD laptop once.. I think it made me sterile.
+Verendus Vir hahahahaha
Harly LMAO!!! 🤣🤣🤣 🐋💀
harlyx64 😂🤣😂🤣😂
My old Celeron did the same
I don't know whats worse, overheating laptops, or people putting high performance laptops on their lap, instead of on a table like you should be.
I use legos & a usb fan
Nice bro
Only one fan?
+Bockab the Hobo solution is real!
don't see why you wouldent
+Bockab I use ice pack under the air intake
Amd laptop+bed = Satan's sauna
Fermi fires ring a bell?
+Steve Ozone thats how I keep warm in winter, I just let my amd computers heat the house.
+Steve Ozone I am experiencing this right now.
+Steve Ozone mine's got an intel processor but has a radeon graphics card and yes, this shit heats as hell
as always, linus testing on hardware very few people has
why desn't he test any "average" laptop with a discrete gpu?
that shit has more vents than I have money whereas my laptop has ony one air in and one air out with that vent like most laptops
+Steve Ozone I have a laptop with an AMD FX7600P APU XD
It runs 75-81 on idle on the CPU... xD It depends on what windows is doing.. :P
Questions: are laptop cooling pads effective ?
Options : yes or no .
Linus : talks for one decade
I don't know what he is trying to say 😢
same. Its just a yes or no question. I guess
Half of the video is jokes and puns. And they probably should have used a laptop that actually needs the cooling pad for the testing.
Yes it is effective in 4-5 degrees difference... But not in performance. :)
@@KinBDutMean degree in Fahrenheit or Celsius?
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@@docklikeable9264 almost always in Celsius when talking about computer thermals
I have a notebook cooler and it works great! My laptop used to be around 80 degrees Celsius but now it's around 60-70 degrees Celsius and my games are now getting a few extra fps. So it's worth it.
I know the temps before are still good, but because I overclock my laptop I want to decrease the temperature as much as possible.
what cooler did you use
What cooler did u do
Cooling pads were never meant to increase performance (how could they? Its not an extra RAM, CPU or anything like that), but decrease heat stress on the laptop, so why test performane when it wont affect it (short term at least)? The only relevant thing to test if it increases cooling, and it did, so it works.
I think they were testing thermo throttling so without the cooler they expected it to cut back and thus lose performance compared to the cooler pad which would stop throttling and result in higher performance
the lower the the temp the better performance u get
Thermal throttling
Calle Nilsson but when the PC is cooler doesnt it run faster, beacuse when my PC overheats i get FPS drops all the time. And when i use a normal desk fan i dont get any FPS drops
Beginning of video = cringe
just watched the rest
Whole video = cringe
Your comment is cringier
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Phoenixian Dave My reply is cringiest
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Stfu. Mine is the cringiest
Your comment was typed all at once, since it wasn't edited. Nice try buddy.
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Linus is my cousin.
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I thought the point of a laptop cooler was to prolong the life of the laptop not to boost performance. As you said, "...heat is one of the biggest factors when it comes to premature hardware death." Isn't that reason enough to recommend using a laptop cooler?
Thermal throttling..... if it gets too hot, it will slow itself down.
@Hatwox yes but the fact that it gets to those high temps and then only throttles is what hurts the hardware anyway,keeping it cool at ALL times will prolong it so much more
I had an AMD based laptop that got to about 120-130 C whilst gaming.
Cooling pad took it down to 85, so yes, they work.
Which cooling pad did you get?
Just a basic single fan, $10 cooling pad from walmart.
Probably Not A Chicken Aw...have a generic cooling fan too. Too bad it's not enough to get my temps down from 99 degrees C when playing GTAV
how do you measure the temperature?
thehomiebearfifa download an application to monitor your temperature. Most chips shouldn't go over 100c.
This is a topic that needs to be revisited and done right.
Why your quality looks that bad even on 1080p? :/
+Erik Murin Because they take a wide shot for the whole video and then zoom when they want to do reactions, or focus or something in the frame. Nobody behind the camera I guess. When you have a frame that's 1080p and zoom in on a small portion of it it'll be lower resolution.
+Tb0n3 Looks much worse to me even on the wide shot compared to their regular videos.
+Tb0n3 Well it looks bad even without zooming
+Erik Murin Looks really good in 4k on my ps4.
+Lars Isaksen looks great at 8k on my NES
That intro legitimately left me scratching my head
"It's a soft, fluffy surface." And the bed's pretty comfortable, too. HEY-O!
HEY-OOOO
+CocoaNutCakery Damn, Beat me to it! XD
Linu - errr, I mean . . . 2EXTREME AWAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY!
its hes own question and this is a show...kind of, its not porn thats for shure!
2EXTREME2008 lkollol
2EXTREME2008 lol
So I do my own test and this is the result.
What I use = Cooler Master Notepal CMC3 and CINEBENCH R15
The result
Using Cooling Pad
CINEBENCH Score
CPU = 318 cb
OpenGL = 44.97 fps
Temperature
CPU = MAX 77C
CPU1 = MAX 77C
CPU2 = MAX 77C
CPU3 = MAX 64C
CPU4 = MAX 64C
GPU = MAX 54C
NOT using Cooling Pad
CINEBENCH Score
CPU = 318 cb
OpenGL = 44.89 fps
Temperature
CPU = MAX 80C
CPU1 = MAX 80C
CPU2 = MAX 80C
CPU3 = MAX 69C
CPU4 = MAX 69C
GPU = MAX 60C
I hope this helps.
I have similar results with my pad. Of course it doesn't enhanced performance but if I can relieve heat stress by even a degree I call it a win.
I recently bought the same CMC3 cooling pad just to relief the heat stress of my Ryzen 5-based mainstream laptop.
For some unknown reason, this video showed on my feed today on November 2019. I had great time watching your videos back in the days. Miss you my old friend, NCIX.
"I don't know, I'm just a description writer. Literally my whole job here. Sigh."
Lol.
+The Double07Phase Poor description writer guy :(
XiadaisGaming Yeah I wonder how much that job pays :P I feel bad for him hehe
+The Double07Phase I wonder how many of us actually look at the description of the video we just watched. I do, but I don't have any idea as to why...
Robert Alford Green Yeah just think about it, he probably works so hard on the descriptions but nobody even reads them
What a sloppy and messed up review Linus , you usually do a better job .... The main goal of those laptop coolers is not to bring performance into the table at all man .. BUT temps reduction and the associated benefits it will provide to the cramped hardware inside that portable system , the real goal of any laptop cooler review is to determine if that specific product really works, when you game on with a USD$ 2500+ gaming laptop for 8 hours and you want at least -10C outta the GPU / CPU by using one of these on a flat clean surface, sadly that MSI unit you decided to use (thanks god it wasn't the fancy razer) is not the best sample unit to test out this , you should have used a bigger unit such as the MSI GT70-GT72 , alienware M17/M18 , asus ROG 17 , we are talking about high end REAL frying pans !
Too much self-aware...
Oh hi protomario
Dude you are famous now
Old video, but I'd like to say that the best cooler I've *ever* used was a Notepal U3 Plus cooler. You could place the fans where you needed them which meant a truly customizable laptop cooler. I've had a couple others with a single fan in the middle and channels that supposedly would let hot / cool air flow that plain out sucked.
For anyone watching this in 2019 and on. If you can take the lid off the bottom of your laptop and let the fans blow directly on the cpu and gpu you can see double the reduction in cooling temps and it will make a difference in performance im you are already boardering the thermal throttle points
Linus should do the same but with the New Macbook and see if a notebook cooler help that shit get better performance similar to his watercooling video.
+Crimson Koba I think that's the sort of laptop that most coolers are meant for now; small form factor, shit cooling, but high performance. Obviously that last one doesn't apply to the macbook, but still.
+DUCKDUDE4100 that did make me chuckle. I recently checked the "build your macbook" thing on their website and the best GPU you can get in a £2k (in price conversion it's like $3k, but Apple seems to just replace the $ with £ when selling here in the UK, so it would be cheaper across the pond) Macbook Pro is the AMD R9 M280X, which is worse than the GTX 860M in my £500 Clevo W230SS
I tried using a cooler on my Macbook Pro, and it won't work unless you take off the cover underneath it.
Sam Morrissey Apple never provides good GPU options and everything costs more here, despite the strength of the £.
You folks do reallize that a macbook hasno underside intakes .. So how the fuck it is supposed to help much?
Oh god, a younger linus....
Lol
Hi. Before I found your video I did a similar temperature measurement like you did because I was curious how effective the laptop coolers are. Funny I was testing the same Cooler Master X3, just with an older and weaker laptop - MSI GE60 0NC (with GeForce GT 650M). I ran Unigine Heaven benchmark loop for 2 hours for each setting to get a stable temperature (now I know that cca 30 minutes would be enough to reach that stable point), having the turbo fan in my laptop turned on max speed all the time to eliminate the variability in laptop's own cooling during the test. I got similar results to yours, with same insignificant differences in temperatures like you did.
GPU temperatures on full load:
On desk - 61°C;
On passive pad (pad's fan turned off) - 60°C;
On pad with pad's fan on - 58°C.
As a bonus I tried to remove the bottom cover of my notebook and let the cooling pad's fan blow the air directly on the heatsink :-)
On pad with pad's fan on and removed laptop's bottom cover - 50°C.Yeah, the notebooks have a very good cooling systems by themselves now and unless your air outlets are full of dust blocking the airflow, the laptop is able to cool down itself very well and you won't experience thermal throttling (automatic underclocking - slowing down - of your GPU or CPU to cool it down). So the pads won't increase performance of the laptops as they are running on highest speed with their own cooling already. Maybe overclockers may like some few more degrees that'll allow them push their clock even higher.
my laptop used to run into the hundreds and this model brought it down to the eighties (after modifying the bottom cover of the laptop to receive greater airflow into the components). my laptop no longer shuts off by itself, so I would say the cooler has made a difference
Yup they work. Got one for my MSI gaming laptop. Runs so cool now.
I have a lenovo y50 and using a laptop cooler (x2 fans) my computer runs 23% cooler. It also performs better, and doesnt sound like on its last breathe of life! Its very usefull if you have a monitor and keyboard set up for your laptop on your desk for working at home, Its petty nice. My laptop is actually cold, instead of steaming. There only $20 bucks for a decent one, and i say its def worth it!
Thank you dude, i am planning to buy lenovo y50 too
Rirehu99 i love my laptop. This is my 2nd lenovo product and their keyboards and design are great. I have 4k model with the 860m which i got on ebay a year and a half ago for about 570 bucks. I recommend going with bang for buck. If your looking for a school computer, and something to play overwatch on, then its great. But i buy second hand. I would look at other laptops like asus or something, and see what is the best bang for the buck. But the lenovo y50 is a solid option.
+John Traner well i would rather buy the 1080p model with 860m because 960 m isnt available in my country...
hey,the x2 fans is the cooler master one?
and what do u think of havit www.toptenreviews.com/computers/peripherals/best-laptop-coolers/havit-hv-review/ for the y50?
I don't usually comment negatively in this kind of videos, but this review was pretty pointless, since you picked a gaming laptop and tested it... Idle...
Gaming laptops tend to reach 80-85 degrees Celsius which is why I wanted to know if it's any good.
Overvolted gaming laptops, that is. Under-fucking-volt your cpu. Instantly 20 degrees lower.
Jeff Franklin The thing I wonder is how his comment managed to get 29 likes...
You should try replacing thermalpaste on a laptop and see if there is a difference because the stock thermalpaste (and the sheer volume of it) looks horrible on most laptops.
+Tommi_6o I didn't get too much of a thermal change on my Lenovo Y580 when idling, but load temps improved a good bit (around 7-10C--the original paste was dried up and was never that great to begin with). I used Corning TC5121 that I got with my BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 and it works pretty well, but the tube doesn't come with much.
+Tommi_6o i did this on an old asus gaming laptop (and cleaned out dust etc) got a performance boost and about 4 degrees drop in temperature. (it was cheap hardware store cooling paste)
5:04 the answer you were looking for. No 5 minutes video required.
I feel like this really depends on the placement of the vents in a laptop. Most gaming laptops have dedicated in/out air vents along the back (like the one in the video) and do a good job of cooling themselves, but others try to get away with as little cooling as possible for the sake of thinness. My laptop is an Acer Aspire, very thin, plastic, and it only has one cooling fan for the whole thing. Plus, the air intakes are all on the bottom, so sticking it on a cooling pad makes a massive difference - even compared to a flat table. Oh, and putting it on a bed makes it shut itself off from overheating D:
2020: hey
UA-cam: hey! check this 2017's super interesting video...
Except it's not. It's a cringefest and misleading bullshit at best.
ok linus, what about a laptop like a he pavilion that isn't as optimized as that MSI laptop. my one is a bit older and doesn't have as many vents as antony's
Use it in a cold room. Maybe 16-18'C.
I'm so glad these guys are Canadian and use actual units of measurement.
I use a Cooler Master Notepal U3 Plus. It has a grilled surface and three 80mm adjustable fans with adjustable speed. But it's not very good to have the fans facing to the air intakes because it pushes a lot of dust into the laptop and it won't take long for the dust inside to prevent hot air to be blowned through the vents and therefore it will raise the CPU and GPU temperatures. It's best to use the pad without fans to just have more space between the laptop and the flat surface so the laptop fans have more airflow to cool the components easier.
Coolers also let you set your laptop on your lap for long periods without burning your skin off lol
Yeah and it gives a nice flat surface in case if the laptop is on a carpet or bed.
Haven´t a clue what this guy is on about! ...he on drugs?
Nah
TLDR 4:55
Joseph Petro whats tldr?
Too long, didn't read
Ty
tyy
TLDW*
I can’t believe I’m just now subscribing to this channel where have I been??
No use in subbing now since NCIX no longer exists and will never upload again
wow this video is much more effective in 2020 since everyone is working from home now a days, and have a few laptops for sure.
Long answers short. Laptop cooling Pads brings down temperatures by 4 - 8 degrees.
And there are also laptop Blower fans which vacum the heat out and are portable.
But now a days they started adding Dust filters, Extension ports like usb display audio, Docking Stations, wireless charging to make them feel worth. who knows they may make it a whole desktop.
on a personal note, Dust filters is one of my favorites, because it actually helps a lot for where i am using the laptop.
And for Blower fans i would recommended consulting with your IT person, because some of my clients have awesome performance increase on their systems, but sometimes in long run Blower-fans may damage the original system fans because some fans are designed to run steadily in a certain pace (push pull logic). Its like using a Blower behind a small table fan, it works but in long run it may impact the small fans bearing or mechanics.
"what do all these numbers mean"
literally me questioning that everyday
But my laptop has one vent on the bottom and one hidden behind the hinge (Asus FlipBook TP550L) with an i5-5200U and 4 Gigs of ram) Can you try less powerful laptops on a maybe part 2? With more realistic choices that are less expensive?
During gaming, my Asus ROG laptop with an Intel i7-4720HQ and a GTX 960M, my laptop regularly jumps to 75C-78C for the CPU and 79C for the GPU.
:|
+swat67ify suck a kick
+swat67ify cool k bye
+swat67ify Razer Blade 2015 here. 83C on GPU and 95C on CPU XD
***** Oooooh xD Those are a couple nasty temps.
+swat67ify My old e-Machines laptop runs 73℃ while wathing this video :,D
loved the video, but would have been better for me if you had chosen a basic laptop or even just not one as nice as the MSI. I'm sure most users don't run to laptops as nice as that! And the performance on cooling would have been a lot more interesting/significant.
I found that regreasing the CPU/GPU every now and then helps the cooling, sometimes I have had to fabricate a copper shunt because of the OEM lack of a good heat transfer.
for those doesn't know already, NCIX went bankrupt in 2017
this channel is dead
Bro that kinda sad I just found them
@@layandreakoto1140 just look up Linus tech tips, same chad ,same advice.
@@plumtucker9514 I already watch linus
Maybe try using a laptop with not as good stock cooling. I'd love to see this video revised sometime.
Basically, a modern gaming laptop is gonna have to be overpowered, so that it generates less heat.
Jeff Franklin i guess he meant underpowered
All wrong, it just has adapted hardware drawing the maximum from it without reaching critical temps during standard use (gaming). My laptop even retains it's boostclock of the cpu (3.5GHz) during the whole day. The only thing I notice is a somewhat loud cooling (fans) when not wearing headphones which is not a problem at all since when I don't wear headphones it'll do something light and use the iGPU instead ;-)
I legitimately thought linus would say "this message from out sponsor" when he said "you know what else you should get?"
the heat pipes in my laptop definitely work. One of my internal fans died not too long ago and i found a replacement part that looked the same. Lo and behold, it's the exact same fan but the one that came inside my laptop has a heat pipe connected to it. I figured the heat pipe wasn't doing that much anyway so I swapped the fans and booted it up. I couldn't be more wrong. I load up Star Wars Battlefront 2 and my system was having an aneurysm because of how hot it was. Had to find the part with the heat pipes to resolve the issue.
after 8 years i turned my 2008 Alienware M15x into desktop. tuned sideways with industrial fan blowing high into vents providing high circulation. Cooling pads are shit and provide 0 artificial air flow opposed to a fan with exposed back end unline a pad with fans that have back ends restricting air current. Toss battery charger next to sideways laptop to decrease heat also and vuaaalaah! 10 fps top and gaming to 90fps. Usb and hdmi connected to 70" tv , keyboard n mouse. Please leave out basic comments about cleaning vents and thermal paste cus lets face it, this late in gaming and this should not be an ongoing issue of overheating. BUT IT IS!
Exlecticution ummm how did you convert it to a desktop? Adding displays isn’t doing that at all.
The heck? XD This cooler has been around for a long time!
My Notebook and Board is at 95 °C while gaming
needs cleaning
It is brand new
Dennis3Run then you should send it back.
+Hurriname holy shit
Damn, im running an i7 6700 in my gaming laptop and i still never get above 60 celcius even after playing gta V on max settings at between 1080 and 4k for more than 5-6 hours
5 degrees may not seem that much but in the grand scheme of things, that could add a good bit of life span to your laptop. I think that's worth it.
This is one of the big points I try to explain when I defend owning a gaming laptop. Every PC tower gamer likes to act like its still 2008 and you're wasting money on buying a gaming laptop. I've owned my Asus ROG G750 for almost 3 years now and the only thing i've upgraded were the Hard Drive (added a SSD) and RAM (12GB to 16GB, I didn't really NEED to I just wanted to). I can still play games like Starcraft 2 on max settings and it doesn't break a sweat. And people are like "Why not just have a PC then?" for the same reason anyone gets a laptop, so it can be easily moved without a lot of hassle.
I wonder what Linus had smoked before making this video...
sometimes i warm my Hands on my Laptop fans, cuz itz so hot outside xD
warm?
Warm?
You have some really great videos but oh my god this one was really irritating to watch... please no more ridiculous voices.
From what I've seen, the jokes keep getting worse, but after each video, I feel more and more informed.
I've Notepal X3, the LED backlight, which is covered by the laptop 100% of time, is BLAST.
Everyone saying their AMD laptops overheat, have you ever used a metabox. My God.
Zagros A amd laptops suck
My current AMD laptop peaks at 75 °C when gaming and stays at 29-35 °C when idle.
I think the old AMD laptops sucked but I recently got a Ryzen-based laptop and it's kinda comparable to Intel Core-based laptops.
LOL. My acer laptop get like 105 C on both cpu and gpu when streaming movies on a tv XDDD and it's standing on a normaly wooden table.. I got a decent laptop cooler and it helps a bit but still around 85-90 C at streaming xd
sounds like you need to open it up and clean out the dust and replace the thermal grease.
My sisters laptop melted the glass on my desk
+Kappa more then 1700 c yeah logic xD
+Owen de Cuba (owyebo) well maybe it's plastic then, but it looks like glass
+Rickzzen dude your laptop is gonna die soon if you do that any more. my laptop threshold is 92 C for both my GPU and CPU. if i try to play video on it without an external cooler, it shuts off by itself because it runs so hot. I then put the laptop on a big frozen gel pack, still ran at 72 C while watching Netflix.
I've bought a laptop 5 months ago (i7 6700HQ, Nvidia gtx 950M, 8 RAM) and when plugged in and playing games on it (like Warface, Call of Duty 4, battlefield 3, gta 5, these kinds of games) I get CPU temp up to 90 degrees and when I put my hand on the side of the laptop it starts burning me after a few seconds and I can't keep it there anymore. On idle my CPU has around 50 degrees. You think I should clean it? I mean... how much dust could it gathered in 5 months? It's hard to take the back out, it is something in the middle that holds it (from inside) and I'm afraid that I'll break it if I force it to open. I have an Asus F550VX
yes, clean it if there is no warranty void
if you havent warranty anymore, you can also change the thermal paste !
You should have tried a laptop that overheats and throttles, it's absolutely logical that if your laptop is not overheating with intensive tasks, then you shouldn't see a performance drop and you won't see an increase if you cool it down either because for many laptops even 70 degrees can be pretty normal and won't throttle your cpu, if you had use it on a laptop that throttles when reaching a certain temperature then you would absolutely see a diference in there.
Back in my day we just put ice packs out of the freezer under our laptops.
i also have a cooler and it does nothing,
literally nothing
it didnt even decrease temps by 1°C
worst 20€ spent
I hate how whenever Linus has to talk on this channel he needs to act overly stupid..
My room temperature is 34°C >:O
I would recommend the Master NotePal X-Slim laptop Cooling pad, Its
also good for gaming and pretty cheap! 👍👍
I started using a notebook cooler with four 1200rpm variable speed fans and noticed that the FPS on games like Star Wars Battlefront, Crysis 3, Mad Max etc. went up by 5-10fps consistently. All stock NVidia GPU, not overclocked or anything. Not a huge difference but for sure worth the price.
could you please redo this video without trying to "look/sound/be cool" ? Just give us the content ... so we don't have to look for some other channel that is more on the point without BS
Just get to the point already....
Safe to clean laptops with compressed air?
it's fine as long as it's turned off
try to keep the fan stoped from spinning
I did and my laptop still working fine
For me i think everything inside the device gives you is fitted , like any products they have to tested it a lots of times to make it perfect, ensure what they tested will not fail you.
Zalman Notebook Coolers make a big difference in temps, had mine for over 4 years now still running strong and very quiet, without it it would reach 90 deg c under load, using it keeps it at least 10 deg cooler at around 80 deg c, great investment and keeps your lap cool!
linus tech tips prehistoric
😂😂😂😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣
These cringe jokes make me feel like I'm at church youth group.
i feel you
I couldnt listen to this guy for more than 40 seconds
I have a different Apple laptop (a 2012 MacBook Air at present) that I want to water cool, but in a sane way. I need to figure out a way to build a water block for it to rest on top of. I have three reasons for wanting to do this. One: lifespan. My previous MacBook Air may have failed due to overheating. Two: comfort. My laptop gets too hot to be comfortable to use on my lap, and the fans are a bit loud at full speed. Three: coolness factor.
i like to use my thermal pad more to cool my hands and keep the keyboard at a more ergonomic position when im gaming for extended periods of time then for the actual cooling properties, thats just a bonus.
Why do I feel like this geezer's reading from a script?
Maybe he does...?
He even admits it in the video so, not an astounding deduction here.
dell laptop + bed = burn't home
Blitz I can attest to this! But my baby is still going strong. Just bought a cooling pad.
Mybe but its been 10 years and that hp laptop runs good as new even though temps go high af
Would it help me with my GE70 2PE? I am regularly hitting the high 80-90s on CPU and 70-85°C on GPU
Did so multiple times during this year. Even changed thermal paste. Energysaving mode helps, but is no good for gaming. Seems like the cooling just sucks, but as of now, I hevan´t experienced thermal throtteling. I guess this is fine then.*****
I have a Dell Inspiron n5110, i7 2670QM. All Vents clean, Thermal Paste is still wet and perfectly fine. And it throttles when you play any game. Literally. A cooling pad helped but now my Acer uses it as I primarily game on it. My Dell is lifted at the back to make sure it stays at a toasty 60c idle and a sexy 70c doing anything else up to 80c in Chrome.
I don't know who you were talking to Linus but I have never heard someone say that they use there notebook coolers to enhance performance coolers are used for prolonging your notebook's life .
I just sit the computer on a bag of ice :|
for real?
dude the moisture from the ice might break pc components
This is what my friend did for a long time.
DNOEL BPITR the ice/hot bags where you can make them cold or hot
is he that guy from linustechtips?
I live in usuahia I let the window open when gaming and the laptop close to it, the CPU never goes upper than 37º Degrees (I use gloves lol)
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If its a little bit faster or slower thats fine because the change in performance seems small. I really want to get a cooling pad now, specifically one that has little noise. If you have a cooling pad or cooling thingy it can really help your laptops battery life improve and longevity of the whole system because programs like music ones especially, some games, and some videos even make a lot of Macbooks and PCs hot.
If you want to blow some extra dust into your laptop, this is your thing. Otherwise just stay away from it. Keeping your internal cooler dustfree and in shape will do the job. If not, you're probably asking more from your laptop than it's designed for which means you've bought the wrong model.
Coolermaster makes briliant stuff and I am a big fan of them. I wonder what made them sell these things :/
1:11
Ahhh the inhilation zoom
2019: now its intel turn to heat all your house thing!
My gtx 950m goes to 95 lol
Have a 950m myself but 87 is the highest it gets in GTA V. My problem is my i7-4720HQ....it gets to 97 in GTAV! Even went as high as 99 one time.
lol
my cpu goes 80-95
Will get one of those vacuum laptop coolers, the one where you stick it to the exhaust vent. I hear those are more effective than cooling pads. Already own a cooling pad myself, temps are no good in GTAV
the cooler makes no different, lol XD
I have a Lenovo y50-70, with a core i7 4720HQ and GTX 960m. The thing is that when I'm playing Dragon Age Inquisition or Fallout 4, the laptop gets really hot, to the point where a safety measure is activated that decreases the power to the CPU (I think) and then my FPS drop to 15-20's (unplayable). The solution was to lift the laptop a little bit over the surface so more cool air could be used by the PC, and it worked! (still gests hot, but not to the point of frames dropping). So I'd say that in these cases is where a cooling pad (or something to lift the laptop) becomes necessary.
I have an Asus X550J. It has a i7 4720HQ and a 950M. I have a laptop cooler which makes it sit higher at an angle. Never had any problems with Dragon Age Inquisition, Witcher 3 or Fallout 4. CPU or GPU would reach the 80's at the most. The problem is GTA V. My CPU reaches 99! WTF! Had it cleaned and reapplied thermal paste....still the same!
Am now wondering if a better cooling pad or one of those coolers where you stick it to the exhaust vents will work better.
It's worth noting that this is for gaming laptops. My midrange laptop doesn't have the same cooling solutions and temperature throttling is a real concern when I'm pushing it. If the cooler can keep the laptop out of throttling ranges (as mine does) you're talking 10+ fps performance gains.