Frost dk in pvp with 2H doesnt need crit at all, so stat wise it'd be vers-mastery-haste-crit. You dont need crit because obliteration makes obliterate guaranteed crit
I thought that was weird too.. Why would you want crit on a frost dk? Your burst window has guaranteed crits anyway. Much better to go with mastery for frost dmg or even some haste.
No rogue should use reverberation,it's deeper daggers all day with planned execution if you have 2 potency slots. Kyrian Vs Nightfae for sub is literally mobility vs the potions, the unique rogue abilities are about on par, and with the cloaked in shadows soulbind when you stealth, you get a shield so the kyrian pots are slightly worse but personal preference really.
@@Faxy95 i specifically remember it saying it does not stack with similar effects. Did they remove that and change it? Seems broken to have 30% cc resistance
Night Fae is very strong for Warrior, especially when Koryn is unlocked. 10% damage above 75%, a 15% move speed increase, 3% damage reduction from FYF, 2 Potency 1 Finesse, and 1 Endurance. And if you're in 2v2 teamed up with a Resto Druid, it's even better.
And the shockwave is omegalul. Hard hitting if paired with cd's, great mini cc as well. Plus, soulshape allows warriors to help maintain uptime against the other classes looking to kite our or normal mobility. Very sad to see skill capped not even mention this.
@@OWlsfordshire Arms is not at all busted... You're thinking of Sub, Ret, Balance, Fire, and MM. Arms loses in all matchups against any of those specs if they're even kinds of a decent player. Nothing can be locked down as bad as an arms warrior, if you're dying to them all the time, i'd look at your own skill.
@@Dotoku14 A good arms warrior cannot be locked down. They have some of the most utility in the game. Just look at the teams running hpal/arms/ret to 3000+ cr.
Maybe It would be Worth mentioning that night fae sepsis ability for rogue Will provide a greater boost in mastery than echoing reprimande after the nerfs. The mastery Buff was one of the Main reasons, that the ability was so Strong next to the dmg. Which has been nerfed to ground now.
Convoke the spirit with Resto Druid is awesome. Being able to one shot people or top yourself and your two teammates at the same times in 2-3 seconds is crazy
You guys mention if you want more damage as a Hunter then try Latent Poison Injectors. Have you tested this? Is this better than Soulfire Embers? What about the Focus restoring after trap? Just curious because Latent was my first legendary that I crafted but all the guides say it wasn't good.
ty for the info skill-capped. ELE-sham why lava resurgence over the elemental one(the 15% dmg buff)? wouldnt the %15 have way more up-time/presence/pressure? also in the long run create more dmg?
@@AnthonyArmour doesn't lava resurgence only apply to 1 single lavaburst where the elemental equilibrium would apply to the 1st cast then If you get that godlike minigun effect all of your next say 3-4-5 lava burst would be %15 more?
isnt night fae better for rogues now becaue of more mastery gain and a blink for more resets. and the cov ability does more dmg or atleast the same as kyrian
Easy, its the scaling of a piece... the amount of intel stam vers haste u get on a chest piece is much higher than for examples bracers or gloves. SInce you can easly crafft rank 4 legendary to ilvl 235, you make it on the highest stats
(priest legendary) i play 3s with ret (i play shadow priest) so is it worth to make sun priestess legendary? since haste is very good stat for ret as well or i should just stick to sephuz?
PLEASE HELP! If I accidentally crafted Sephuz shoulders when I should have crafted Sephuz chest, what do I need to do to unmake my shoulders and make a chest instead?
I'm still a bigger fan of bonespike for sin rogue. Pair that with doomblade. You get a ranged ability that comes in useful and it generates 6 combo points in total and an extra bleed for doomblade
Yup. I think the Kyrian info here is outdated. ER hits like a butter knife now, but I think we may see it retuned since it was gutted so hard. If no changes on next pvp patch I’m switching over.
I swapped to Night Fae since we get more mastery from it, plus more health and mobility. Since we can get a shield when we stealth we don’t need the cleanse from the steward ability.
Why no mention for Convoke (night fae) on resto druid? especially in 2's you can often switch to your affinity and do significant burst. even as a extra burst healing cd its quite good.
While Night Fae is good for Affli. I think Nercolords works better for Destro single target wise. Plus every time I think of putting my lock in night fae. The movie Tooth Fairy with Dwayne Johnson comes to mind >.< And I believe the two stats for Destro is Haste/Mastery
I want to add that ive played a lot of wow over the years. I quit in wrath but came back for boa then quit and just came backagain for sl but after all is said i probably a noob
There are two sections of guides on Icy-veins, pve and pvp.Pretty sure you were checking the Dk pve guide, check the pvp one, in pvp you always stack as much versa as possible
Chest pieces have the highest amount of base stats and a 235 legendary will have more main stat/stam/2ndary stats compared to other options. And since legendaries are the highest ilvl items in the game it would make sense to make it on a higher statted piece.
Sepsis from Night Fae > Echoing reprimand from Kryian. If it didnt get nerfed it would be the other way around but Echoing is more like a Shiv now lol. almost 20% extra mastery for 12 seconds + 6k hp at 207 GS just from using it, not to mention the 6k+ natuer dmg in 6 seconds with potency conduit increasing dmg +100%, even without that conduit its great. Night Fae all the way for sub rouge
You say warlocks prefer haste over mastery, and so do other websites, but when I look at the top 5 in the ladder they are all focusing mastery. Is there a minimal difference between which one is prioritised, or is this information incorrect? Any advice for a new warlock 😜
@@Rhamen77 Thanks for your reply. I'm affli, but at the time the top 5 affli locks in the ladder were stacking mastery instead of haste so it's a bit confusing on what is best.
@@Rhamen77 For sure versa in pvp. My point was that all the affli locks at the top of the pvp ladder are using versa/mastery gear, not versa/haste gear
Love your videos man. Its refreshing to watch something informative and accurate, amongst so many other options. However I am a bit bummed out you didnt even mention Outlaw. I know its not the best PvP spec atm bust its still viable.
idk why everyone keeps telling dh to craft darkest hour on chest instead of legs. Chest and legs (and helms) have the same stat totals and there are vers/haste for both chest and legs on the conquest vendor. Just put it on the cheapest one.
Maybe during execute phase, but definitely not throughout an entire fight unless your build is bad on frost. They're simming pretty close to one another and parses show them both in the mid tier range in Nathria.
@@BasedChadman build is bad? Frost has some of the worst in between goes’ damage in the game. My frost is the same build is everyone else there’s very little variation. 1800+ dk and war is better in every single way, frost and unholy
@@Dotoku14 learn to read there’s no bad takes here, warrior is a better class in every way, even with 20+ ilvl difference, frost dk with the pvp wep 205 hits less than my war consistently. I didn’t make the game my dude, even a 2% dmg buff to frost in the notes coming up. Details doesn’t lie, you can get back to back execute procs, at whatever % health, and the damage multipliers are way better than any cool downs frost has AND they last longer AND you have 5 more defense abilities dk doesn’t. It’s a joke
they really dropped the ball hard with priest legendaries... especially disc... radiance super mana intensive and you have a CHANCE to fire 3 more bolts. Meanwhile Warlocks get perma -50% movement on corruption, boomkins get a mega crit burst, enhancement gets an insane burst etc
Can’t agree more, but shadow is even worse, I mean Sephuz is the most boring fucking legendary ever invented, and with that being meta is just sad. While other classes get some uber awesome legendarys, im stuck with 10% reduc cc, like are u fucking kidding me.
It is for convoke burst, but outside of that then it's all about whatever haste breakpoints in spell cast times you are going for. If you want 1.4 second cyclone then you need a lot of haste. At 12-13% haste I have 1.3 second wrath and regrowth, but I haven't been able to hit 1.4 second cyclone yet. Not sure how much you need for that. I go 1.3 second regrowth and then the rest into mastery for now. The shitty thing about night elf is that your haste varies depending on night or day, so your cast times can actually vary as well if it's night or day.
Will someone please explain to me how disc is better than holy right now? Especially in 3s, disc doesn't have the throughput to stop people from dying.
Anyone find it funny hes saying all these legos are the best for disc priest but the gameplay they have you can see the Sephuz Secret buff on the guy playing the game.....
@@alexbrennan9928 hmmm cause there might be some ppl actually having fun with the spec and playing it....not all players are focused on "hey i only play whats strong right now cause thats the most fun for me". can you believe that? crazy right?
@@Tablekid but the people who come to these videos tend to do so looking for the best / most optimal setups. there is zero reason for the makers of this video to go into specs that perform 10-30% worse than other options available to each class. It's a waste of their time and presents people with the viewpoint that demo, outlaw, or fury are playable.
@@alexbrennan9928 no at all my friend , still not nice to claim "every" class but then just let many specs unspoken,atleast for me all specs are the class not just 1 or 2
@@alexbrennan9928 if you say so ok, but still its just very unfair to not even mention those specs on a video thats purpose is to help players perform better
same goes for disc. yeah haste is nice and technically the highest boost to healing and damage but its also has 0 efficency and for a class that struggels with mana a lot more than the other healers (mw excluded) its not so good. i assume for ret its constant damage vs burst.
@@LiquidToolExperiment all the rogue covenants suck atm. Most classes get a powerful ability, echoing repremand is something I don't hit until I have nothing better to do
@@kylekermgard Well be thankful that as a rogue you have so many other good things to do. Sub rogues don't need a covenant to be good. Just an all around great spec. As a convoke boomy, I'm just a meme every 2-3 minutes.
@@lennartheld4227 Lmao it's not a hacking program it just changes the look of something on your screen, and it's not illegal at all it's just it could flag your account for changing game files but Blizz does know of it and they just said to be careful with it because the system is automated no need to lie when you don't know what you are saying.
People always sleeping on Mastery. Its literally the same as vers in terms of damage boon. Since your almost always gonna have deep wounds up, its a consistant damage buff. I went Vers/mastery on my warrior and im sitting at about 19%. So, once i have deep wounds up i literally have Avatar at all times as long as i'm hitting a target with my deep wounds active. I seriously hate haste in SL for pvp. Haste is only good with maximum uptime because its main benefit ppl go for is the faster auto attacks for more rage. Considering that the best players do their best to kite you and mitigate your uptime, haste spends a lot of time doing nothing really. It's sad because it seems people just wanted to stick with what they went for stats in BFA and really didn't experiment mix and matches. Because of this there's this pack mind that says Haste/vers is only good and your dumb to do anything else.
@@zepho100 Right for the rage because of extra auto attacks. Btw, you can fit two MS inside a normal CS anyways. It'd be trying to fit a third. Thing is also, I'm watching people with haste still get rage starved anyways so its boon isn't that huge. But, again, I'm not saying the haste build doesn't work or can't work, im just saying its not the only build you can do. That's the main point I'm trying to make here.
wow.. the fact that you didnt even go over Beast mastery spec.. shows how ridiculous it is that blizzard hasnt buffed us... like.. you didnt even mention my favorite spec to play> BUFF Beast Mastery Hunters, ALready!!!!!!! come on
Frost dk in pvp with 2H doesnt need crit at all, so stat wise it'd be vers-mastery-haste-crit.
You dont need crit because obliteration makes obliterate guaranteed crit
Exactly
People really overvalue crit and undervalue haste on frost with an obliteration build
I think i'll listen to a multiple rank 1 DK and blizzcon champion over you.
I thought that was weird too.. Why would you want crit on a frost dk? Your burst window has guaranteed crits anyway. Much better to go with mastery for frost dmg or even some haste.
Crit makes your oblitetration do even more dmg.. every 1% more crit is more dmg done
Dudes, sick overview, much appreciated :)
Great overview. Glad To see this break down for alts and even off specs.
No rogue should use reverberation,it's deeper daggers all day with planned execution if you have 2 potency slots. Kyrian Vs Nightfae for sub is literally mobility vs the potions, the unique rogue abilities are about on par, and with the cloaked in shadows soulbind when you stealth, you get a shield so the kyrian pots are slightly worse but personal preference really.
Add to that Versa then Haste what? Most sub rogues stack Versa then Mastery.
@@esportbets that was for assassination spec, which is correct
@@gozo1409 ahi I see gotcha
So great that you include holy priests. Great that you are all inclusive.
lol its not all inclusive they left out demo locks
@@Shoskthey do that yeah. They just pick the most played specs and right their stuff. They can not ask for money if they are not all inclusive.
I would also mention the „Sephuz“ Legendary for ORC warriors. Since the reduced cc duration stacks.
No way It does
@@hunternewberry5860 it does
@@hunternewberry5860 In the past you could not do it but for now it seems you can.
@@Faxy95 i specifically remember it saying it does not stack with similar effects. Did they remove that and change it? Seems broken to have 30% cc resistance
Should I be crafting surging shots on bracers or neck?
Hunter harpooning through a brick wall - "Advanced traversing", i love it :D
Where is my guide for my degenerate prot pala pvp destruction?
Love the video
Thx for the update on hunters, i almost chose necrolords since u mentioned it in the hunter early shadowlands guide, glad i chose kyrian covenant 😇
Great vids, very good info that is usually not talked about.
Night Fae is very strong for Warrior, especially when Koryn is unlocked. 10% damage above 75%, a 15% move speed increase, 3% damage reduction from FYF, 2 Potency 1 Finesse, and 1 Endurance. And if you're in 2v2 teamed up with a Resto Druid, it's even better.
And the shockwave is omegalul. Hard hitting if paired with cd's, great mini cc as well. Plus, soulshape allows warriors to help maintain uptime against the other classes looking to kite our or normal mobility. Very sad to see skill capped not even mention this.
@@bigbobam8857 I’ve been hit by 22k shockwave crits. I attest. Insane burst.
More of a symptom of arms jusf being completely busted. Venthyr and Kyrian wars are also insane. Big nerfs coming soon.
@@OWlsfordshire Arms is not at all busted... You're thinking of Sub, Ret, Balance, Fire, and MM. Arms loses in all matchups against any of those specs if they're even kinds of a decent player. Nothing can be locked down as bad as an arms warrior, if you're dying to them all the time, i'd look at your own skill.
@@Dotoku14 A good arms warrior cannot be locked down. They have some of the most utility in the game. Just look at the teams running hpal/arms/ret to 3000+ cr.
No mention to the 3rd spec for lock? I understand it's not meta but not even mentioning that it exists lol
It doesn’t right now bro
Great vid!
Maybe It would be Worth mentioning that night fae sepsis ability for rogue Will provide a greater boost in mastery than echoing reprimande after the nerfs.
The mastery Buff was one of the Main reasons, that the ability was so Strong next to the dmg. Which has been nerfed to ground now.
I thought venth is bis for mw monk? With the cd and reduced kicked time, and kyrian being to mana heavy in the long run
Also pretty sure it’s the incorrect legendary as well, sad mw noises
Convoke the spirit with Resto Druid is awesome. Being able to one shot people or top yourself and your two teammates at the same times in 2-3 seconds is crazy
Is this guide also for RBG? Or only Arena?
You guys mention if you want more damage as a Hunter then try Latent Poison Injectors.
Have you tested this? Is this better than Soulfire Embers? What about the Focus restoring after trap?
Just curious because Latent was my first legendary that I crafted but all the guides say it wasn't good.
what is the name of the song that theyre using in the background? sounds really good
ty for the info skill-capped.
ELE-sham why lava resurgence over the elemental one(the 15% dmg buff)? wouldnt the %15 have way more up-time/presence/pressure? also in the long run create more dmg?
High burst right now is where it’s at
@@AnthonyArmour doesn't lava resurgence only apply to 1 single lavaburst where the elemental equilibrium would apply to the 1st cast then If you get that godlike minigun effect all of your next say 3-4-5 lava burst would be %15 more?
So what is skill capped stance on Prot pallies? They are certainly viable in 2's and 3's in certain comps.
isnt night fae better for rogues now becaue of more mastery gain and a blink for more resets. and the cov ability does more dmg or atleast the same as kyrian
whats the reason for picking certain armor pieces? for example with the mage, you said use Triune ward on chest. just wondering why that is
Easy, its the scaling of a piece... the amount of intel stam vers haste u get on a chest piece is much higher than for examples bracers or gloves. SInce you can easly crafft rank 4 legendary to ilvl 235, you make it on the highest stats
why do u recomend certain armor slot?
(priest legendary) i play 3s with ret (i play shadow priest) so is it worth to make sun priestess legendary? since haste is very good stat for ret as well or i should just stick to sephuz?
Why not cover outlaw rogue?
PLEASE HELP! If I accidentally crafted Sephuz shoulders when I should have crafted Sephuz chest, what do I need to do to unmake my shoulders and make a chest instead?
What about using vanguard's momentum as holy venthyr? shock barrier loses alot of value if you don't run kyrian
Yeah, i am running that one. Was wondering the same ^^
You didn't mention slot for Rsham legendary.
my thoughts as well
@@divY1337 it's chest-slot however.
I'm still a bigger fan of bonespike for sin rogue. Pair that with doomblade. You get a ranged ability that comes in useful and it generates 6 combo points in total and an extra bleed for doomblade
How sure is the rogue choice? I am considering to switch from kyrian to night fae rn,but will wait before doing all the qs to be 100% sure
Most top players have swapped already.
They put holy priest in a video as a viable spec. We finally made it!
@rally Murrah holy priest is insane right now its literally a top tier meta healer rn
@rally Murrah I just mean in 3s comp all the top tier rank 1 priests play holy right now because they have a lot of CC
Oh my Rouge I went night fae, for added mobility much easier to get re stealth’s
Yup. I think the Kyrian info here is outdated. ER hits like a butter knife now, but I think we may see it retuned since it was gutted so hard. If no changes on next pvp patch I’m switching over.
I swapped to Night Fae since we get more mastery from it, plus more health and mobility. Since we can get a shield when we stealth we don’t need the cleanse from the steward ability.
What slot for the resto shaman Lego. Just caught you didn't say.
Always the one that costs more conquest to buy (it’s an indication of how many stats a particular piece gives) its chest/ helm> everything else
@@enpera8592 awesome! Didn’t know that, thanks!
I don't think it is Crit. for MM Hunter as a secondary stat.!? All pages say master instead....
Same here, I'm just confused at this point, different sources call different stats
as boomkin I play with balance of all things, isnt it better>?
Why no mention for Convoke (night fae) on resto druid? especially in 2's you can often switch to your affinity and do significant burst. even as a extra burst healing cd its quite good.
Isn’t convoke Kyrian?
@@zepho100 Convoke the spirits is the night fae class ability for druids
@@Kvh47 that’s awesome. I have a night fae resto buddy
@@zepho100 Nice man! so do I. Necrolord might be better, but night fae is definitly more fun
why double PI only with caster??? melees get the haste buff too
While Night Fae is good for Affli. I think Nercolords works better for Destro single target wise. Plus every time I think of putting my lock in night fae. The movie Tooth Fairy with Dwayne Johnson comes to mind >.< And I believe the two stats for Destro is Haste/Mastery
Why is WW Monk legendary the best piece a headpiece? There is a Vers Mastery head but no Vers Mastery Shoulders??? Please explain.
Head have more stats than shoulder of the same ilvl.
For shaman in pvp i thought vers, crit, mastery. Haste seems like a waste. Why do you put haste as a higher priority than crit and mastery?
I want to add that ive played a lot of wow over the years. I quit in wrath but came back for boa then quit and just came backagain for sl but after all is said i probably a noob
How is night fae for warriors though? Heard Bajheera went with it
It is useful and has good burst, just not as good as Kyrian especially considering Phial
Thank U Bro ❤️
night fae for rogues now? wolf seems good
I'd stay on kyrian until renown 30 to see how the meta will settle
Why versatility over mastery for dk? On icy-veins it says mastery then haste
There are two sections of guides on Icy-veins, pve and pvp.Pretty sure you were checking the Dk pve guide, check the pvp one, in pvp you always stack as much versa as possible
perfect, ty
Why does the priest legendary, Sephuz, need to be crafted on the chest piece?
I think cause shoulders probably have haste/versa piece but chest is something shit like crit/versa.
Chest pieces have the highest amount of base stats and a 235 legendary will have more main stat/stam/2ndary stats compared to other options. And since legendaries are the highest ilvl items in the game it would make sense to make it on a higher statted piece.
Not sure if those are really the best Legendaries for MM-Hunter 😅 thought rapidfire-leg is BIS? What y’all think? 🤔
Sepsis from Night Fae > Echoing reprimand from Kryian. If it didnt get nerfed it would be the other way around but Echoing is more like a Shiv now lol. almost 20% extra mastery for 12 seconds + 6k hp at 207 GS just from using it, not to mention the 6k+ natuer dmg in 6 seconds with potency conduit increasing dmg +100%, even without that conduit its great. Night Fae all the way for sub rouge
Wheres my demonology guide?!
PET gets killed... What now when you dont have CD for summon?
they sleeping on the demo
He states viable in the introduction; they must not think demo is viable.
You say warlocks prefer haste over mastery, and so do other websites, but when I look at the top 5 in the ladder they are all focusing mastery. Is there a minimal difference between which one is prioritised, or is this information incorrect? Any advice for a new warlock 😜
haste/mastery for destro and Haste/versa for affli. that's all, u can play necro in destro too
@@Rhamen77 Thanks for your reply. I'm affli, but at the time the top 5 affli locks in the ladder were stacking mastery instead of haste so it's a bit confusing on what is best.
@@Tofunator i was wrong, but yeah play mastery in pve, versa pvp,
@@Rhamen77 For sure versa in pvp. My point was that all the affli locks at the top of the pvp ladder are using versa/mastery gear, not versa/haste gear
@@Tofunator strange
Unitframes at 26:00?
Looks like ElvUI for player, target, and focus. Default blizzard raid frames for party. And Gladius for arena frames.
Love your videos man. Its refreshing to watch something informative and accurate, amongst so many other options. However I am a bit bummed out you didnt even mention Outlaw. I know its not the best PvP spec atm bust its still viable.
No Mad Paragon for Holy Venthyr Paladin?
What about bm hunters
Nobody plays bm, literally 0 found in shadowlands
idk why everyone keeps telling dh to craft darkest hour on chest instead of legs. Chest and legs (and helms) have the same stat totals and there are vers/haste for both chest and legs on the conquest vendor. Just put it on the cheapest one.
It’s because of other legendary powers, that are also on chest, so it’s more flexible if you for instance want to swap to sephuz.
are you sure about mm hunters having to go crit before mastery?!
Outlaw ?
No one plays outlaw in PvP lol
When your brand new 181 ilvl warrior hits harder than your 205 dk, feelsbadman
Maybe during execute phase, but definitely not throughout an entire fight unless your build is bad on frost. They're simming pretty close to one another and parses show them both in the mid tier range in Nathria.
@@BasedChadman build is bad? Frost has some of the worst in between goes’ damage in the game. My frost is the same build is everyone else there’s very little variation. 1800+ dk and war is better in every single way, frost and unholy
181 warrior won't do shit until you're already dead anyway at
@@Dotoku14 learn to read there’s no bad takes here, warrior is a better class in every way, even with 20+ ilvl difference, frost dk with the pvp wep 205 hits less than my war consistently. I didn’t make the game my dude, even a 2% dmg buff to frost in the notes coming up. Details doesn’t lie, you can get back to back execute procs, at whatever % health, and the damage multipliers are way better than any cool downs frost has AND they last longer AND you have 5 more defense abilities dk doesn’t. It’s a joke
they really dropped the ball hard with priest legendaries... especially disc... radiance super mana intensive and you have a CHANCE to fire 3 more bolts. Meanwhile Warlocks get perma -50% movement on corruption, boomkins get a mega crit burst, enhancement gets an insane burst etc
Can’t agree more, but shadow is even worse, I mean Sephuz is the most boring fucking legendary ever invented, and with that being meta is just sad. While other classes get some uber awesome legendarys, im stuck with 10% reduc cc, like are u fucking kidding me.
u said sephuz for priests "be sure to chosse it on chest" why that?
it simple gives more stat
Wait, can you really swap legendary powers on the same piece?
No... You have to make 2 chest pieces.
Are you sure about hast worst stats for frost DK?
Every other sources say it's main stats = mastery
Please do a video about conduits!
Mocfernando is not Night Fae anymore btw.
I thought balance Druid with convoke mastery would be the best stat?
It is for convoke burst, but outside of that then it's all about whatever haste breakpoints in spell cast times you are going for. If you want 1.4 second cyclone then you need a lot of haste. At 12-13% haste I have 1.3 second wrath and regrowth, but I haven't been able to hit 1.4 second cyclone yet. Not sure how much you need for that. I go 1.3 second regrowth and then the rest into mastery for now.
The shitty thing about night elf is that your haste varies depending on night or day, so your cast times can actually vary as well if it's night or day.
I think you missed bm hunters. But other than that amazing job much respect
thought versa > mastery is the way to go as MM, not Versa > crit
Yes i thought too..
Warrior and shaman in the first 15 mins I’ll take it :)
Will someone please explain to me how disc is better than holy right now? Especially in 3s, disc doesn't have the throughput to stop people from dying.
AMS Legendary for UH DK? I think it is very good.
29 min vid made short: bis stats for all clases is ilvl + versa in pvp .cheers
yea, dont mind the second secondary stat
no hunter beast master???
Nice
Where is prot pala Bro?
Anyone find it funny hes saying all these legos are the best for disc priest but the gameplay they have you can see the Sephuz Secret buff on the guy playing the game.....
@Sen484 BS
I like how you just skipped demo lol, is it really that useless
And BM
Destro is worse
You need to put “pvp guide” in the title because this clearly isn’t pve and inexperienced players might not know
Skill capped is a pvp channel, there is no skill involved in pve.
fury?
Kinda sad that you didn't even said one thing to demonology warlocks...
it's an unviable spec, why waste the time
@@alexbrennan9928 hmmm cause there might be some ppl actually having fun with the spec and playing it....not all players are focused on "hey i only play whats strong right now cause thats the most fun for me". can you believe that? crazy right?
@@Tablekid but the people who come to these videos tend to do so looking for the best / most optimal setups. there is zero reason for the makers of this video to go into specs that perform 10-30% worse than other options available to each class. It's a waste of their time and presents people with the viewpoint that demo, outlaw, or fury are playable.
@@alexbrennan9928 no at all my friend , still not nice to claim "every" class but then just let many specs unspoken,atleast for me all specs are the class not just 1 or 2
@@alexbrennan9928 if you say so ok, but still its just very unfair to not even mention those specs on a video thats purpose is to help players perform better
Haste more important than mastery for ret pally? Nah...almost every top tier ret stacks vers/mastery over haste.
same goes for disc. yeah haste is nice and technically the highest boost to healing and damage but its also has 0 efficency and for a class that struggels with mana a lot more than the other healers (mw excluded) its not so good. i assume for ret its constant damage vs burst.
I think you are wrong with sub rogue covenant. Since the nerf, Kyrian is garbage. Night Fae or Necrolord are better.
So Vanguard's Momentum isn't BiS for Venthyr holy paladins anymore?
22:55 Incantation* not Incarnation
you forgot stats for bm
I like your content but i don't know why you keep ignoring Prot Pally every video. You can't pretend it doesn't exist on the PvP.
I'm glad they skip it
Mastery over crit for fire mage though.. crit is like completely useless..
Why remove this section for the guys that paid for skillcapped, to make a less informed UA-cam video? Cant find Bis conduits and soulbind now...
We're adding updated versions of this content to our discord for members: discord.gg/fQXxf8uFTw
Kyrian for rogue is pretty weak now. It only does about 1k damage in pvp.
Uh, no. Kyrian is still the best.
@@LiquidToolExperiment all the rogue covenants suck atm. Most classes get a powerful ability, echoing repremand is something I don't hit until I have nothing better to do
@@LiquidToolExperiment No, Kyiran is bad. With Night Fae you get so much more restalth.
@@kylekermgard Well be thankful that as a rogue you have so many other good things to do. Sub rogues don't need a covenant to be good. Just an all around great spec. As a convoke boomy, I'm just a meme every 2-3 minutes.
Demo is so disrespected lol please bufffff
No brewmaster in the list,sad
How is the warlock in the video with noggenfogger in arena LMAO
It’s called j.morph. Kinda illegal hacking program
@@lennartheld4227 Lmao it's not a hacking program it just changes the look of something on your screen, and it's not illegal at all it's just it could flag your account for changing game files but Blizz does know of it and they just said to be careful with it because the system is automated no need to lie when you don't know what you are saying.
@@lennartheld4227 it used to be called T.morph and people have used it forever they even use it on streams.
what about demo 😠
Holy shit I need and was just thinking about this lol! Im still 57 because i just havent wanted to play
wtf where's demo bruh
No love for Ventyr
People always sleeping on Mastery. Its literally the same as vers in terms of damage boon. Since your almost always gonna have deep wounds up, its a consistant damage buff. I went Vers/mastery on my warrior and im sitting at about 19%. So, once i have deep wounds up i literally have Avatar at all times as long as i'm hitting a target with my deep wounds active. I seriously hate haste in SL for pvp. Haste is only good with maximum uptime because its main benefit ppl go for is the faster auto attacks for more rage. Considering that the best players do their best to kite you and mitigate your uptime, haste spends a lot of time doing nothing really. It's sad because it seems people just wanted to stick with what they went for stats in BFA and really didn't experiment mix and matches. Because of this there's this pack mind that says Haste/vers is only good and your dumb to do anything else.
I think people go haste for the rage generation mostly. We get rage starved at points.
with 20% haste you will fit 2 MS in the CS Window aswell wich is big
@@zepho100 Right for the rage because of extra auto attacks. Btw, you can fit two MS inside a normal CS anyways. It'd be trying to fit a third. Thing is also, I'm watching people with haste still get rage starved anyways so its boon isn't that huge. But, again, I'm not saying the haste build doesn't work or can't work, im just saying its not the only build you can do. That's the main point I'm trying to make here.
where is prot pala lol
oof also cries in nightfae*
wow.. the fact that you didnt even go over Beast mastery spec.. shows how ridiculous it is that blizzard hasnt buffed us...
like.. you didnt even mention my favorite spec to play>
BUFF Beast Mastery Hunters, ALready!!!!!!! come on