Billionaire Breaks Ground On The U.S.'S First High-Speed Rail
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- Wes Edens has broken ground on Brightline West, his $12 billion Las Vegas-to-SoCal railway, aided by billions from the Biden Administration. But building more high-speed lines like this one won’t be easy.
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First to operate. California high speed rail has been under construction for a number of years. I won’t argue over over budget over time, but this is not the first high speed attempt. Just potentially the first to finish
I hope the hints at future projects Wes Edens mentioned do come true... I.e. Atlanta-Charlotte, Seattle-Portland, The Texas Triangle and of course finishing off Brightline East with Tampa-Orlando and Orlando-Jacksonville... These are al fast growing and viable lines at the right speed and price. Heck they should even offer a budget train version like France which offers both traditional mainline high-speed under SNCP and ultra-low cost fares with Ouigo trainset's that are just as fast but cost usually 1/5th the price if booked in advanced and non-refundable much like ULCC airlines today!
I do not mind paying taxes for projects like this, I just hope that us the taxpayer pay a small fee compared to tourists.
I have no problem paying the tax, but it has to help a lot people to justify the cost. The best estimate is 8 million. That's not a lot for original price tag, 30 billion. Right now , it's more.
The problem is low population density. Not many contiguous big cities. Oh, most HSR stations have state of art public transportation. CAHSR or Brightline west, only San Francisco has it.
This is just an expensive toy for train lovers. They just wanted to 100 miles to ride trains.
How about people wanted to use the money to improve local public transportation, those selfish train lovers would call that environment terrorists n sleep with oil industry.
the usa has enough millionaires who pay taxes out of their petty cash, let them pay more in taxes,
It’s worth noting that Brightline West estimates a 2 hour 10 minute travel time between Rancho Cucamonga and Las Vegas (though BLW’s president in an interview at the recent groundbreaking stated a 1 hour 50 minute travel time, but I’ve yet to find any technical documents that support this rather sudden change).
Metrolink, the commuter/regional rail line that connects LA to Rancho Cucamonga on its way to San Bernardino (among other cities around SoCal), currently takes 74 minutes to travel between LA and RC. Adding in time to transfer between Metrolink and Brightline West (say 10 minutes), and you’re looking at about a 3 1/2 hour travel time, and that’s just between Union Station in LA and BLW’s Las Vegas station.
Getting between those stations and downtown LA/the Las Vegas Strip will bring that travel time closer to four hours, which is about on par with the drive time on a good day with minimal traffic, something that if BLW succeeds should be more common as there are less cars on the I-15, especially on weekends when most people are traveling between SoCal and Vegas.
This is to say that this train is still 100% worth doing, and if anything is long overdue. There’s been talk of a fast SoCal-Vegas train for about a decade now, and maybe ever since the discontinuance of Amtrak’s Desert Wind service in 1997. Brightline West, much like it’s Florida counterpart, will offer a more comfortable, relaxing, and convenient ride experience compared to driving, and even flying, for about the same price range as those options would cost. Brightline West is the closest yet to actually making it a reality, and here’s seriously hoping it finally is.
CAHSR is the first HSR train in the USA. Make no mistake. It will be the preeminent HSR line in North America.
Brightline West will most likely be the first to begin operations, and BLW’s top speeds do make it HSR, but I agree that California is the first HSR system in the country, being the first to begin construction, and will ultimately be the superior system with higher speeds and capacity, and connect more cities, regions and people than BLW, initially through connections with new and existing transit in Merced and Bakersfield, and eventually itself between LA and SF via the Central Valley.
@ChrisJones-gx7fc Brightline west will be first HSR joke built by private industry. A rail across desert connecting one big city and smaller city. Wait, it's not LA, it's Cucamonga. HSR can not make money dropping people on two ends. It has to drop as many people as possible on each city. Oh, empty desert with no people. The most important part is LA and Vegas must have New York style public transportation. Each smaller cities must have good public transportation. Oh desert with small towns or empty areas. Don't worry investors, after Brightline con the people n government enough money, it would offload to the government and walk away. Many HSR with more population density and contiguous major metropolitan areas n better public transportation lose money, and government take over.
CAHSR is also not ideal because only terminal cities are major metropolitan. However, at least those cities are bigger. There are not many people in Central CA, but still more than desert area. Why HSR supporters wanted to spend 10, 20, 30 billion dollars on rail across desert? Oh, Silicone Valley n Fresno do have more people than desert.
Oh, don't bring housing issue. Buying house in cheaper area and work in LA, SILICONE Valley , Irvine.
LA has terrible public transportation. The local people are struggling without cars.
People in Bay area cannot commute to Silicone Valley without car.
Go to Irvine metrolink station, it's good exercise to walk more than 5 miles.
So how do people live in cheaper areas n work in LA, Silicone Valley, Irvine?
CAHSR may work well if all the cities have New York style public transportation. However even with best public transportation, CAHSR will not make money because population is too spread. 16 years later, it's still talking.
Brightline west will be complete first by private industry. It will also be first government run HSR because Brightline will lose money n lobby government to takeover before CAHSR start building
Indonesia has already high speed rail
Dreams do come true
Who cares if it's late the important thing is it's starting to get shape.
Yes!
While a $3B grant and a few billion more in sub-prime financing isn't nothing, it's certainly a steal compared to the bill for California HSR or any of the other projects proposed or built so far... This if successful could and should be a model on how to build out HSR at a reasonable and affordable pace... Certainly faster than California's project the rate it's going...
The scale of this is much lower than compared to CAHSR. CAHSR also had far more hurdles than BLW.
You may have a chance with this one - relatively straight lines, low right of way costs, fairly dry conditions (except monsoonal conditions)! Problem maybe extreme heat on tracks!
Saudi Arabia and Morocco have desert climates prone to extreme heat and high speed rail, so yeah, it could be done
I hope taxpayers get paid back for this.
You get paid back by having hsr
@@CatpoopTacos So what if you don't use HSR. How to you get paid back?
Governments should pay for it all and be $20 per ticket. No premium
Good info.
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That's great. If they can make it cheaper and safer than flying, I'd gladly take it. They also need to make it convenient and available all over the country.
How much do taxpayers have to shovel out for this Billionaire? 🤔
I think there was a $3 billion "Grant" and another $5 billion in "Fainancing" (sub-prime loans)
@@Mis-AdventureCH Yup. Not nothing in this day and day but a very small amount considered the cost and especially compared to CSR next door... Like fractions... Then again this is value engineered unlike CSR... Aka scaled down to be as cheap as possible... I.e. one track with passing sections only... Which limits capacity to only 2-3 trains per hour but that's pretty much OK since that will still be the most frequent HSR project in America at that rate...
Far less than taxpayers shovel out each year for interstates.
@@Ven100 Entirely it's own seperate issue. Interstates are the logistics network for the whole country. This is a taxpayer funded high speed service for casinos and hotels which rake in gagillions a year. No one else in the entire country benefits one wit from it.
@@stickynorthNot quite true. The federal funding in grants and loans is about 50% of the cost. Much higher than CAHSR. Where the federal funding percentage is closer to 15% of the money spent so far. CAHSR will be fully double tracked with two additional tracks at stations to allow for bypass non-stop trains or limited stop train service. Much better and faster than BLW. You get what you pay for. Building it on the cheap as BLW plans to do will result in a much lower average speed and 2 trains per hour tops. Much lower than CAHSR.
Make no mistake, CAHSR will be the preeminent HSR line in North America!
You can bet it will over budget. 😂😂😂😂
Good luck! Let's see how far it will go.
Should read "US taxpayers break ground on new high speed rail system for Vegas hotels with billionare as project manager and primary beneficiary."
No need to state the obvious.
THIS WILL BE ABLESSING BUT IT SHOULD STOP IN BARSTOW NOT RANCHO CUCAMANGA AND IT WILL BE FASTER AND SAFER TO LAS VAGAS AND TO RAIDERS NATION LAND.
Белый дом надел маску им приходиться врать
About a decade late
Y doesn't Forbes cover Sexual Assault Trump's blasphemy?
China 🇨🇳 is way ahead of the USA 🇺🇸 when it comes to speed trains. 😂😊
then move
@@ichirakuramenshop7738 why ?
first?
Yeah let’s see how it goes with your “billionaire triumphalism” and we don’t need the government to do stuffs cuz free market capitalism can do it all 😊
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young daughter
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Why!
because I'm a father.
3 hrs in this new train. 5 hrs in my car. I will still choose the freedom that the automobile provides. Even with the addition expense.
I will choose the freedom to sleep, eat, drink (alcohol if I choose), work, walk around, go use the bathroom, or just take in the views as I travel up to 200 MPH that the train provides vs fighting with traffic due to weather, rush hour, construction, accidents, or just the sheer number cars on the road. The freedom not to deal with road ragers/tailgaters along the way. The freedom to feel far more revived/relaxed when I reach my destination.
Good freedom is having a choice of multiple different options and not being dependent on on type aka the car. It’s not even doing it best in the USA. Germany has a better system.
This billionaire will soon become a millionaire, if not a man in poverty. There is no way the United States freight rail rail shippers are going to let this happen without costing the American taxpayers, trillions. Don't ask me for details.
Don't worry, I won't ask details on nonsense.
I wish the taxpayer would give me half the cost of starting a business. How could you hope to fail?