EZbass For Metal Production and Songwriting...Is it worth it?
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2024
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I'm LOVING Toontrack's EZbass plugin and for good reason.
I'd go as far as to say that the pre-production and songwriting phase is the MOST important phase of the entire production process.
In other words, how well you map out your pre-production demos will directly affect the sound of your final mixes. This is something that's not too obvious to most beginners, but it's 100% true.
The pre-production phase is where you build a rock-solid foundation for your music.
It's where you:
- Experiment with different arrangement ideas
- Nail down the interplay between your guitar, bass, drum and vocal parts
- Finalize the meat and potatoes of your song before spending time (and/or money) recording your music for real
It's where you're free to experiment and finalize your music in a loose, relaxed and stress-free environment.
There's a reason why pro producers spend so much time with a band demoing songs BEFORE recording a single note for real.
With that being said, being slowed down or held back during the songwriting and demoing phase can be a major buzzkill.
As a guitar player and a producer that's usually working with other guitar players during the demoing phase..
Few things are more annoying than having to constantly switch between playing guitar and bass when coming up with killer ideas.
Also, it's not always convenient or possible to have a guitar AND bass on hand at all times.
With that being said, I've recently been implanting a tool that has completely changed the way I've been putting demos together.
It's also been a massive time-saver and time is one resource we can never get back.
In this video, I show you how I'm creating bass lines out of thin air with my new favorite production tool: EZbass.
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I have Ezdrummer, EzBass and most recently Ez Keys. I think it's important to get out of any purist minset about real instruments and just do what it takes to get foundational ideas down in a song. These plugins save time and space throughout the songwriting process.
You want to take it to the next level? Isolate the kick drum MIDI and match it to the bass guitar MIDI. Now increase the velocity on the bass guitar everywhere the kick drum hits. Now you will really feel the groove come alive.
Interesting idea! It’s sort of the inverse of ducking that you hear on a lot records. I could see it working if the bass and the kick don’t have a great deal of overlap on frequency spectrum.
Thank You for more bass content. I used to not stand midi bass but this one is really good!
Wow! This EZ Bass looks and sounds amazing, and it’s a super amazing feature to be able to recording audio into Ez Bass and then transform it into midi. Really impressive feature and after all amazing sound! Great video Bobby! Thank you so much 😀👍🔥🔥🔥
This sounds soooo good... I'm very slowly working on my demo, so I'll definitely use EZBass instead of renting a studio just to record bass.
Thanks for the great video!
I’ve been using EZdrummer since the original came out. I purchased the 3rd version when it came out and I’m blown away with not only the look but the ease and sound. I will look into the EZbass because of what you just demonstrated. Thanks for incredible useful and knowledgeable insight.
If you already have the guitar part recorded in your daw you don't have to re-record it into EZBass. Just drag the pre-recorded guitar clip from your daw straight into this window ( 5:05 ) in EZBass and it will immediately convert it to bass line.
It's iffy. Not very accurate for extreme metal. For basic riffs, it's an ok method.
Been using Ez Bass for about a year now I love it
Great video, very helpful, thanks Bobby 😀👍
Amazing, thanks bro! Great video! 🤘🤘🤘🤘👍👍👍
Definitely will have to purchase me EZBass
Wow. That’s awesome. My songwriting process is the same and I will absolutely be getting ezbass for this purpose
Great review as always Bobby! Wish i would've held off a bit on the new pickups for my bass lol. Definitely sounds convincing.
I did not know the feature that turns rec into MIDI, thank you so much for the info Bobby 😎 For our debut album with my METAL FUSION band "THE EDIBLE TOADSTOOL ORCHESTRA", we have used all your cool mixing advices, with EZdrummer and Shreddage Abyss (which sounds similar to EZ Bass) 🍄 And we are VERY happy with the final result, sounds real and natural to us : virtual instruments quality is amazingly improving now ❤️
looks interesting, great video Bobby
Very cool man! Sounds really good!
Great video .... Ithough I'm not a metal head ... really enjoy your channel and music acumen ... great work ... yes, I'm using EZ Bass, Drums, and Keys ... thank you for sharing!!
Good one... Thanks ❤👍
HOLY SHIT!!! I’ve been using EZ drummer since the first edition. DFH blew my mind back in the day. I have heard of EZ Bass but didn’t know much about it. Seeing you can play bass parts on the guitar and turn it into great sounding bass….wtf! I am heading over to Toontrack and buying this! Thank you so much for this!!!!
Super useful feature!
It’s funny that you uploaded this video because literally yesterday I was thinking about how I need a Bass plug-in that could do this!!!
I used the Solemn Tones Kraken for a while, but ended up just buying a bass guitar. I find that I enjoy playing it, even though I only break it out to record bass tracks for my guitars lol.
Finally a proper video on how to use ez bass thanks dude
Would be great to hear some of the other presets in the actual mix and not just solo. Just a thought! Great vid as ever, that bass sounds great.
If I wasn't a bass player I'd have been more curious about EZ Bass, it's a really powerful tool. When I was younger I used to write exclusively in guitar pro and when I moved over to a DAW i kept the same workflow.
I program everything manually with midi instruments and just use my physical instruments to figure stuff out. I never really use drum loops because I have a fairly holistic idea of how I want the music to go in my head and it's simpler for me to program it myself than to search for loops.
I mostly use addictive drums, shreddage serpent for guitar and shreddage abyss for bass. Gives me a decent idea of how everything's gonna sound without bloating the folders with GBs of wav files
You should make a video of your workflow then. Where is your music? Do you have anything out there?
I like using EZBass to write. When i get a good part down i practice it. If it sucks, i fix it then learn it. Its a tool 👍
I actually use ezbass live sent to a real bass amp. Works really well . I manually programmed everything though . Definitely gonna try playing some guitar lines in and convert it to midi 💪
used to use EZ drummer, only use GGD and slate drums now. I use GroveBass and it is probably the coolest vst i own maybe. If you havn't tried it yet you really need to if you can get your hands on it. Your new short video about fader riding automation.... try vocal rider as the last fx on your lead guitar... have all other instruments sent to an Aux track.. mute the master send of that aux track... i'm using reaper.... send the routing of the aux track direct into vocal rider as a sidechain. then it will fader ride based on your settings and along to the aux track you have sending into it. IT does work on lead guitars. If you set trim to write and set vocal rider to write you can watch it write the automation on it's fader's envelope. not the track fader, but vocal rider's fader. And then there is a way to fader rider in Reaper with no plugins , i have a video on it bookmarked, i think it is from Kenny or Reaper Blog who did this video i forget now, it may have been one of your videos too, i forget
this is game changing
Love TOONTRACKS products! Would you do a more in depth tutorial on the EZBass product for the non bassist?
I usually prefer to record my own bass, but to be honest ezbass saved I couple of times, I like to get all the midi based on my guitar, sometimes I blend solemn tones or eurobass, it's a really nice tool!
Been using the EZ plugins for a while now and they are awesome when creativity hits and you need to lay down ideas - quick and EZ!! :)
I recently started using the shreddage series for all of my bass and guitar writing the tools now adays are insane. I’ve also been using ezdrummer for about 8 years. The speed increase in overall production has been a life saver
Meta of Smash in the comments of a metal production video??? AND a fan of shreddage guitars??? YOOOOOO
@@darkflamesquirrel come to the stream bro I make metal on stream all the time 👀
I used it since day one and it's just getting better , you need to add the metal ebx it's fantastic , I use it one real production as I do with drum samples, blend it with the original and all my clients are so happy 😊
True. Even tho i just using the DI. The metal EBX is easier to dial in metal bass tone than the stock one
Very cool!
I use EZDrummer, but the guitars and bass are done using actual guitars. This is an unreal tool though, definitely going to give it a try.
Can you do a mix video with stock logic plugins?
Nice job ..can do a video about the key switches in EZ>Bass? Thank you ❤🎉
I'm gonna have to give this a try. This is perfect for a project I have going on with a friend. Also, I'm of the same mind, if what your using is working for you then no reason to use anything different, which is why I like SSD5 for drums. Never got around to trying out ez drummer, but I have a bad experience with it from when I was in my highschool band. The dude who produced us used ez drummer and the end product sounded very plasticy (for drums).
That MIDI tracking/conversion is pretty good, interesting. I've mostly been programming my bass directly (Djinnbass) to save time in pre-production, but this might save even more time....
Same here! I'm absolutely blown away by how good the tracking/conversion is.
EZ Bass is killer!
I'm looking for ez bass because i had ez drummer for 3 years just got the crossgrade, to superior drummer 3 and it is so much better, although ez drummer was amazing they just expanded the options so it's not that the old one sucked by any means it's just shows how much the upgrade was worth it, I don't feel like buying a new bass just for recording might as well get this. Leroy you the best man, I'm just seriously shocked that you added this video a few hours after i searched for this on youtube for the first time, while i was about to buy it online, peace man talk to you later
Glad you gave it a whirl mate..pretty awesome huh?
dude, how are you getting that bass drum sound? Is it just a stock sound or are you equalizing it to get that sound? Reminds me of Thomas Skogsberg from Sunlite Studios from back in the day.
That's awesome. That's exactly what I was looking for. I've been watching your videos, very well explained the music you're mixing sounds great. I only wish I would have started recording on a computer that has more room for it. Right now I just have a new Mac pro laptop. Wondering in your opinion what would be the best suggestion to work with that without spending a whole lot of money by buying a different computer or something. Or what I don't know.
Just buy an external SSD and you'll be good rock!
@@FrightboxRecording ok. See I wouldn't even know what that was because I'm just getting into all this, so great and thanks. I really like everything you're doing man. This makes it all so easy, or EZ
Just checking it out online a Samsung t7 2TB about $170. Looks like what I need because I have like 35 years worth of songs to record. Definitely doable. Thx again man.
Also wondering if you had any suggestions on how to sound proof like a little vocal booth, because it I'm building a small studio outside and I don't want people hearing me down the road.
@@FrightboxRecording as it turns out an ssd external is only good for a lot of storage. As where I am having problems just running most pluggins. So I would have to go to and a computer store and have them replace my ram I'm guessing. Still learning. I don't know if that's gonna erase all that I recorded or what. Instead I've been doing a little committing tracks sometimes in an alternate session and bouncing them over. I plan to just buy a better laptop for all this in the future but really the best buy sales man claimed he also worked with pro tools and ran all sorts of pluggins and said that's all I'll need. I should have explained to him I was recording more than just a cowbell.
I’m kind of late to this. Can I use EZ Bass to convert a guitar track to midi, and then use that midi file in euro bass? I prefer the sound of that vst
I use ez drummer been planning on getting ez bass it’s just I’m stuck in how I do things I have done research on this
Ya I have this and the metal bass however it doesn't also track well everytime and requires tweaking notes which is not a big deal.
I do not have the "Record audio from DAW" option. It only says "Record audio." How can I enable the DAW audio recording, please?
I tried it on drop G but it doesn’t give those low ends notes
Try EZ METAL Bass Extension and you will be enchanted
Cool demo. We have started using Superior Drummer (coming from EZDrummer) and the MIDI tracking on that is ridiculous. We mic the whole kit and turn it all into MIDI and just blend the overheads in and man it sounds great. This is equally as impressive it seems. Pretty soon I guess we won't even need singers and guitarists... or song writers. AI will just do it all. "I feel like writing a song today" *pushes the "Generate Song" button* aaaaaaand DONE! Upload to DistroKid!
How do you fare with midi-fying the cymbals? or do you just midi the shells?
@@VaizardDaishi yeah we use overheads for cymbals. Only shells get the superior drummer midi tracking.
At first it looks amazing, but is it good enough for recording an actual studio album? Or it's only good for pre-production and some cheap demo? :)
OK question. I have a bass line mapped out in Tabit (old school I know) I can export it in a MIDI file. How do I plant it in EZBass so it translates in my DAW which is Reaper.
Render it to an audio file then import the audio to EZ Bass.
how the hell did i just search for ez bass because I was going to buy it, and I see you just uploaded this 16 hours before the search lol damn it leroy you all up in my head aren't you?
Hmmm, I never thought the MIDI tracking would be that good. I might actually be interested in trying this shit out xD
It works
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I bought Ez Bass almost a year ago with a metal expansion that was great for super downtuned stuff. I’ve been really impressed with it. Then I must’ve been really high cause I bought a bass. But still such a great tool.
Does it give u the low ends for drop G ?
@@Guitar_daddy2016 yeah I used it for drop E, an octave below standard on bass; two octaves below standard E on guitar.
@@Guitar_daddy2016 in fact I did the same thing with a stock pro tools plug-in in the past. The EZ bass + metal expansion def sounds way better and is more geared towards that style though.
@@blastbeatdown do you have instagram or facebook so i can add u if thats ok?
@@Guitar_daddy2016 my @ on Instagram is the same as here 👍🏻
So could I record my bass guitar and then transpose/convert it to sound like new strings with ez bass?
Edit: Oh god yes, that makes 3x more sense later in the video. Convert audio to midi. Powerful! I’m interested in this now lol
Yes you can!
So could I record my bass guitar and then transpose/convert it to sound like new strings with ez bass?
Absolutely, just drag your bass audio into ezbass and it will covert it and you can then use presets or just sculpt your tone.
My only gripe with it is that so far, only 1 ebx(Metal) has a decent DI. Everything else is wayyyyy too dark to run into an amp or sim. Pretty much stuck with the stock patches unless you EQ TF out of the DI. It just doesn't have that metallic shine of new strings.
My biggest gripe is that it isn't fully sampled. I have a lot of songs I love using the B or Low E on the higher frets and EZBass doesn't cut it. It's a great tool though
Do you mean multi-sampled?
@@kristofaxelson5088 not sure if that's the same thing, maybe. Only frets 1 - 7 are sampled, when you go higher it just repeats already used samples
Hey, what about tunings? Drop A or maybe standard C etc.... can you set tunings on ezbass? Greez
You can yes
Yep, you can change tunings instantly.
Yes you use the transpose semitone option. A tip is to use the Bass Tuning and not the Perfect setting right below the transpose. EZBass metal goes to to E1 I believe
If you want the bass to stick tight with the drums.. I work backwards.. I may start with drums to play a guitar track, I will then turn it into a bass track, replace midi, now its not just following my root notes.. Like a guitar player would do.. Then drag that midi into drummer, and it will pick drum tracks that lock in with the bass.. So… Work backwards.. I use EZ Key too and sometimes I start with keys, to bass, to drums, and then lay guitar tracks.. So the best results is.. Work backwards.
Do have an experience with Djinbass?
and now EZ DRUMMER 3
Ok believe it or not.
Most bass DI or track is sloppy or in terms of quality the DI is bad lol or sometimes the low end dynamic is just insane even after a heavy comp or limiter.
After mapping the tempo usually i convert the DI to midi to fix the bass, sloppy low end of bass is one of the worst enemy in mixing IMO
Ok sometimes the editing midi is annoying as hell but much better than dealing with sloppy bass track is just worse lol
This is specially great when are stuck with a bad performance done in a bad bass, with 6 year old strings played buy a bad bassplayer.
And just like drummers, they can't hear the ressample
😂
Ahahhaha
I track the songs and then use loki bass
Been using Loki myself.. It's hit or miss to me.. Some recordings it sounds great, others, maybe not?
@@thelegionary07 its good. Just work with it
Looks like im pick'n up ez bass....
why didn't you just run the guitar rhythm track into EZ Bass have it write you a proper Bass line from the beginning?
I have found this feature more trouble than its worth unless it is super simple
In my case, EZ Bass misses a lot of notes and never gets the nuances of my playing.
You can turn up the "transient, missed note, stuff"
Any recommendations for free/cheaper bass plugins? I have a guitar, but no bass.
Bobby its worth it. Bass strings are like 30 bucks lol
Nothing Trve about this.
It doesn't work at all. I have it and it's completely useless. You'd be better off using Neural DSP plugins and turning them down an octave, and that actually works whereas EZbass only "kind of" works. The neural DSP plugins will track your audio files better. EZbass just like, sorta works. Not how you want it to though, and certainly not for fast metal with blast beats. I've tried a thousand times and it sounds like crap. It can't track your guitars well at all unless you're playing straight forward 4/4 rock rhythms, however even then you're still better off using Neural DSP plugins tuned an octave down.
What is this WITCHCRAFT
Everyone's getting lazier and lazier each day with these stuff :) Not saying its bad but I don't know...Sometimes when you are recording the bass some things that you do out of the box carries the song away to some other dimension. I believe the bass should be used as a priority songwriting tool not some instrument to just follow the root notes of guitar chords.
Time to fire your bassist😂
I use superior drummer for writing and production. For bass I use Grovebass
too much talk without action is boring.
lol recording with a real bass has got to be faster than going nuts clicking each and every note in there
What's with the stupid childish thumbnail?