Remember: the Oscar-winning CGI tiger that Mark praised in Life Of Pi was done by Rhythm & Hues, who immediately went bankrupt after the film launched. The artists protested outside the Academy Awards, SFX director Bill Westenhofer was cut off when he mentioned the work they'd done, and Ang Lee did not mention R&H at all. Shameful.
i like how this guy's favorite scene was the worst one lol, he appreciated it for what it was and not for trying to be real and failing, but failing on purpose. love it!
Honestly, the mere fact that +200kg cats exist still boggles my mind. You know how savage a normal house cat can be. Multiply by 100 and you have a lion or a tiger. The amount of dead you're about to be if that cat attacks you, is beyond most peoples comprehension. Big cats are simply incredible creatures.
The Amur Tigers (biggest cat on the planet) have reached 300+kg.. when they stand on their back legs, they can reach 18ft tall, praise whoever they didn’t learn to walk around on twos 👍😂
@@essaboselin5252 Yes... prehistoric cats were even bigger and scarier. Not to mention prehistoric bears, like the shortfaced bear that could allegedly weigh up to 4000lbs or just under 2 tons 😳
Which is my whole issue with lists like this. Lists are subjective at the best of times, but when a list claims to be reality-based, as this one does, it takes it to a whole new level of squalor.
@@catpoke9557 I think you’re right - but normally the experts review something based on their accuracy which is the whole point of having the experts. No hate for him, just wished he reviewed based on accuracy.
I was once on a national park that gave a list of things to do in case you were to be threatened by a puma. After the list of tips, there was a final sentence: "If all of this doesn't work, fight bravely". Thank you guys.
The one thing you NEVER do is turn your back on the cat as you attempt to leave the area. Never, ever, ever turn your back because it can stimulate the cats predatory instincts to charge.
The best one I've seen says "Do NOT go out of your cars. The tigers are carnivores and they WILL eat you". Saw it in a news where a woman went out of the car to fight her husband from outside the window. Note that he was the driver and she was on the passenger seat before they fought. She got mauled, the husband and his mother tried to help her but another tiger dragged his mother. The tigers ran away to eat her.
The Maneater of Rudraprayang (leopard with 125 confirmed kill) once took a man right near from his friend. They shared a pipe (smoked tobacco), and when the host gave the pipe to his guest he thought his friend got it, hold it. And the pipe was fall to the floor, the sparks spread on the carpet they sat on. He wanted start arguing with his friend that could be more cautious not to set fire the carpet, but than he realized that his friend was already dead, and the saw the leopard dragged him out through the opened front door. Horrifying scene, for sure. This was in the famous of book of Jim Corbett, titled "Man-eating Leopard of Rudraprayag".
2:14 "There are more tigers in captivity in the US alone than there are wild tigers in the entire world." I'm not _surprised_ by this statistic, but boy, does it break my heart. 😿😿😿
And the irony is none of them are actually tigers! If wild tigers went extinct then these captive housecats would be all that left and it's sad cause they can't perform their duty
@@64bitman31wdym excuse me? Do you not understand what's at stake with having ALOT more animals in captivity than one the wild? If you don't that's even sadder.
Yes and no. Would it be better if those animals where free? Absolutely. But it would be worse if they weren't there at all. And: Most "wild" animals that are held as pets are in fact bred from capivity and would propably not survive in the wild. They are not "subtracted" from the wild popularity. Even more so: Many handlers do truely care for the animal and will provide enough space, food and mental stimuly. Sure, then you'll have the Tiger King-guys but they are the minority... But those are the ones who generate more media attention, so...
@@Kremit_the_Forgnah bro, you're looking at it all wrong. Just because the cats exist doesn't mean anything. They sit in an enclosure for their entire lives and have absolutely no effect on the environment they're from. We need wild tigers. An ecosystem needs many moving parts to function properly and if tigers are completely taken out of that equation, a lot of stuff will change.
Everyone seems to love seeing pet tigers and lions on Instagram without questioning "Hey, what's that tiger doing in a guy's living room anyway?" so it's not really that surprising. Same with servals, ocelots, cheetahs, and other big cats. Bring it up with people and you'll be told you're killing the mood. Meanwhile when these "pet" owners run out of money to care for them or have some kind of accident when their actual wild animal acts like an actual wild animal and they want to ditch them, the big cat either dies or gets dumped at a rescue struggling to keep up with care for all the others that met the same fate. Write your representatives.
Kinda is and kinda isnt. There are about 4500 wild tigers in the world. Lets say that there are 5500 tigers in captivity in the US. There are not enough habitat areas available to support 10000 wild tigers. 95% of the area where wild tigers used to live is gone because humans moved in. So the only option you have for those tigers in captivity is either death or captivity.
Fr. Like "If you can just run fast enough to keep a distance for about half a mile you'll be safe". I got 30 feet in me at full sprint before I pull a hammy 😂
@@kristophersy773 That's me right there, wouldn't even make a full step and I'd be on the ground. Most people (Including me) are so inactive these days-
I love this guy. He is so nice and explaining with passion even when it's not realistic. He is equally good as Forest Galante who appeared in 3 episodes as an expert. The difference between Forest and Mark is that Forest also add humor but both very professional.
I don't think he's actually seen all the movies though... Bheem in RRR is basically a superhuman, so yeah, he's gonna outrun a tiger, and be able to take a swipe from one.
I do the whole quickstep thing with my little house cat whenever she tries to pounce on me. And I can confirm that it definitely works, even though she’s clearly not a lioness, a tigress, or even a cougar.
There's a saying amongst cat experts: "A cat is a cat" Even though there are obviously some important differences between the different cat species, their overall behavior is VERY similar to one another. That's why it's totally possible to keep a large predator cat as a pet - though 99.9% of people have no absolutely business doing so.
The expert was great and very enjoyable to watch, but how are you not going to have him rate “The Ghost and the Darkness” with Val Kilmer and Michael Douglas? This film is based on the Tsavo man-eaters, probably the most famous historical account of a big-cat attack.
Perhaps because it was a terrible film - absolutely appalling. For the record, the Michael Douglas character is complete fiction and made up. Anyone genuinely interested in the infamous Man-Eaters of Tsavo story is better served reading the original book, by Lt. Col. John H. Patterson (the Val Kilmer character), orig. published in 1907 (and written in the style of the times).
@@alexs.1242Worst possible take. The movie could’ve used another round of edits to smooth out the pacing, but Remington is a spectacular Great White Hunter archetype, among Clayton & Roland Tembo, and it is a great Africa movie
As a cat lover and a dedicated animal rescuer, his job is the envy of my heart. More of him please, would even better if there's a whole series on just him and big cats. Love it! ❤
Yepp, there are other big cat movies, The Ghost and the Darkness (1996), Prey (2007), Rogue (2020), Burning Bright (2010), Maneater (2007), the South Korean "The Tiger" (2015), and sure some I missed to mention. Also there was a Dutch movie Prooi (Prey) (2016).
I love all cats in all their shapes and sizes and appreciate how different yet similar in their behavior they are, from the smallest to the largest 😊 One film that is missing here and which would provide quite a bit to unpack for this gentleman, is 'The Ghost and the Darkness'. I'm hoping you bring him back for more, because I enjoy his passion for these wonderful creatures!
I was just about to complain about that. Not discussing Ghost and the Darkness in a video like this is like not discussing Jaws in a video about shark-movies.
Wow!! so good to see Dr. Mark here!! I remember first hearing about his tracking work with lion prides throughout Kruger from a professor at Uni. It is essentially his work in Kruger that has inspired myself and a few others to pursue field studies on the lion populations (some of which he mentions briefly at 7:29) particularly throughout Botswana and Tanzania. If you haven't seen or read about his work, definitely check him out. Some amazing field work this man has accomplished, not just with big cats but also wolves. Nice to see him bringing factual information and busting a few fabricated myths without completely shading the work of the film industry haha. One that particularly amuses me is film depictions of apex predators making guttural and loud vocalizations (obviously for dramatic effect) as they approach a hunt. The same can be said for dinosaurs as well in some depictions, but the point is, why on earth would a hungry predator with the objective of stealth want to announce its presence?.
That's because all predators try very hard to avoid getting hurt. The predator thinks "Okay, this one looks really tough and there's a very real chance they could permanently handicap me. I will back off because if I do get hurt, then I won't be able to get food anymore and I'll starve."
Huh, I didn't realize there were so many cougar attacks in movies. I live in an area where cougars are pretty common, even found cougar tracks over mine when I went out on a hike once and was on my return trip, and I'm just not scared of them at all. Cougars don't attack humans very much, and even when they do the human pretty much always surprised unless they're a child. They're just really bad at killing humans, and I'm pretty sure they know it. Honestly they tend to just be incredibly shy; 99% of the time if you're in an area with a cougar you won't see them. If you _do_ see them it's usually because they spotted you and are in the process of leaving the area in a hurry, lol.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. In my experience, mountain lions - aka pumas in the southern Americas - are shy and retiring, and more inclined to run and hide than attack people. In my career as a journalist, there was one case of a mountain lion that jumped on a rider on a horse, and another (unrelated) instance of a cougar trying (and failing) to nab a jogger. In both cases, the cat was a young male in thin condition, on the verge of starvation, likely an inexperienced hunter newly separated from its mom and struggling to fend for itself on its own. A far cry from the savage, marauding beast these ratty movies often make them out to be.
Someone has never played Red Dead Redemption… (They’re one of the scariest animals to encounter because you don’t spot them. Good to know they’re not likely to go after you in the wild.)
Cat attacks of any kind are much more rare than people realize. ...but yeah, cougar attacks are extremely rare. There are something like 40k cougars in North America and on average, only about 5 of them attack a human per year. ..and if I remember correctly, less than 1 of those attacks per year is deadly. There's actually a guy in Russia who has a pet cougar named Messi and it literally lives inside the house like a normal pet. It's one of the sweetest, most chill cats I've ever seen. Lol His videos are so entertaining. They also have a pet cheetah. Cheetahs and cougars are actually close cousins when it comes to evolution.
10:12 I feel like in the slow-mo the tiger is moving too slow. I remember seeing a slo-mo video of a domestic cat swatting a dog's face, and the cat looked like they were moving at a normal speed while the dog was in slow motion. Cats are terrifyingly fast at striking with their paws.
Stand still, maintain eye contact, make yourself appear larger than you really are (by holding your arms out, better if you're wearing a jacket and can spread the sleeves out to look like part of your body) and most cats will quietly back off and walk away. "Whatever you do, don't run" is a common refrain in the bush, and with good reason. Cats are opportunistic hunters, and running is a trigger that you may be something worth eating, even if they're not particularly hungry at the time. It's a survival reflex in cats - all cats. Instinctive from birth.
one important thing is to note is that predators are looking for victims, not opponents, going confrontational towards big cats is generally advised, with tigers being a notable exception as all you'll accomplish there is to raise your status from prey to hated enemy. best way to survive a tiger attack is to bring a friend who's a more enticing target than you, because chances are you don't know that there even is a tiger until one of you is already dead.
Too bad they didn't include the black jaguar attack from the movie "Apocalypto", which is pretty accurate, from what I read: this species favors a penetrating bite into the skull for the kill, as opposed to going for the throat for many other big cats.
Aww this expert is such a sweetheart! Such a gentle take on even the dodgiest of scenes. 🙂 If you have him on again I would love his take on Chunky the Death Cat from "The Croods" - I immediately thought of that film when he mentioned that hunting cats try to be as quiet as possible rather than announce their presence to their prey.
The Lion King Movie was very underrated in my opinion. As I had lived with house cats for my entire life, I was in awe about the movement and face gestures of the animated lions. It was very natural (in the setting of the movie). People bad talked this movie a lot and found it weird. But I liked, that the lions behaved very realistic. Best "cat" movie, I have ever seen.
Good point on cats and lung capacity. People always say why are cats so lazy or sleep all day. That's because when they are hunting for food or active, it's actually a very intensive activity for them.
p.s. also Out of Africa (1985, dir. Sidney Pollack) - for me, the lioness charge was both realistic and utterly credible. Wild lions can be relatively disinterested, bored even, when you're in a vehicle, but when you're on foot it's a whole different story. Out of Africa is just a movie - Robert Redford is miscast as the real-life character Denys Finch Hatton, for starters - and completely made up, I get that. That said, I was taken aback by just how realistic that scene with the lioness in Out of Africa really is. The silences for one. Movies as a rule don't do silence well, especially not in action thrillers set in the wilds of Africa.
That was such a great movie. Beside the actual big cat thing the acting was filled with so much passion and feelings those days. I miss movies like those ones. I cannot watch a movie which is all about the spectacular action scenes and sight but no story at all.
I'd have loved to hear your opinion about a few more big cat attacks from movies: Burning Bright, Prey, Gladiator, Jungle Book, Sandokan, Tarzan, Two Brothers...
I work in Vfx industry, heart and soul goes into making everything real including animals. I can not describe here how lengthy, time consuming and detailed oriented the whole process is. thanks for mentioning it.
Couple of honourable mentions of you happen to make another one of these videos. Apocalypto - There's a pretty decent panther attack. Uses a real panther (which the main actor actually ran in front of!) then switches to a fake one. Tiger: An Old Hunters Tale - Amazing CGI! *A lot* of attacks on humans, some on animals. Homeward Bound maybe? - There's a scene where a mountain lion chases two dogs, but there's no attack so to speak. But it was a real cat. The Ghost and the Darkness - About the man eating lions of T'savo. Again a lot of attacks on humans. A lot of camera angle tricks, but 99% of the shots are with real lions.
Missed opportunity to talk about the Ghost and the Darkness, underrated movie based on a true story about lion attacks would have loved a discussion of the movie and events surrounding it.
Sad fact about the Lion in Beast: The movie tried to make you view that poor cat as the main villain, when really it’s the poachers who were the main villains and what this Lion was doing was getting revenge on the group of poachers that killed its entire pride. I felt sad for the Lion I honestly don’t blame it for going rogue.
About Beast, I agree with the lethal prognosis haha. The end of the movie shows him in a hospital and apparently he's fine, but there is no god damn way a real person would survive an attack like that. We didn't see the entire clip here, but the lion bites *deep* into the man's torso multiple times (with it's oversized fangs lol) so in real life it would have punctured multiple organs. It ripped up the guys arms and legs, torn blood vessels. So even if they got him to an operating room immediately, which they couldn't because they were in the middle of nowhere, dude would be dead. No way he'd survive.
Mark Elbroch's books about how to track animals are so amazing. Just by reading through his Mammals of North America tracking book, I've learned how to collect the right data to identify tracks, how to tell how an animal died, etc. So very cool and so worth checking out if you have an interest in the natural history in your area.
The Bear was set in an mountainous area with lots of Trees so that was accurate setting. If it was taken place more up towards Alaska than he would have a point about accuracy wise.
One thing I just love about cats in general is their confidence. I think we've all seen the clips of house cats chasing away dogs, bears, gators, what have you. And while they are built for hunting, what really makes them impressive and scary is that defense mentality. It's like they're signaling that even if you can beat them, they're gonna hurt you so bad it's not worth it.
I was so glad to see beast in here, one of my favorite movies relating to realism, I absolutely love how they ended the movie with the lions fighting other lions, totally realistic and awesome to see
I'm not convinced I'd ever have the confidence to try and intimidate a big cat like that, if one ever confronted me like he suggested. I definitely don't have the stamina to out run one either! It would be quite a roll of the dice on what my brain goes with.
I have been watching "How Real is it" animal videos, and i have to say they are probably my favorite, with rare exceptions in my other areas of interest, but in general, love them, love the passion the experts show for the animals, and the little tidbits of information they drop every time. Just love them.
I've seen an impala disappear into the darkness 15m from me, just from the impact of a lioness at full tilt. Crazy how big they are, and the strength! I was on a game drive at night in South Africa, in an open Land-Rover and we came across a whole herd of impala just starting to go manic, lions were on the hunt...and after a few moments the guide swivelled the the spot light to the left, there was a split second when he stopped on an impala, it looked up at us, and then it was gone in a blur...swivel the light a bit to the right and there was the lioness right on top of its prey...all within 15m from where I was sitting in an open topped vehicle...what an experience!
No, no, no, NO. Dereck and Beverly Joubert are experts, Steve Winter is an expert, Dr. Laurie Marker is a top-tier expert. This guy, not in the same league.
At 14:48 where he says ‘..it’s the domain of the wolves!’ you could feel the dread that he has about wolves. No animals comes close to ingenuity of wolves when it comes to killing its prey, or its competitors.
Actually, wolves have significantly lower success rates than mountain lions when it comes to hunting and have been seen following mountain lions around so that when the lion makes a kill, the wolves can steal it. Researchers have also witnessed mountain lions making extra kills and storing them away to bring out later after the wolves have taken their other kill. When the researchers followed the cougar around themselves, the cougar would lead them to kill its made in an attempt to get the researchers to go away because it thought they were doing what the wolves do. Not to say wolves aren't really cool because they are, and their social dynamics are fascinating; just saying cougars are also very smart and interesting 👍
Yeah I don't think anything in this comment holds up 😅 I don't see why would a wildlife expert feel any dread towards an animal that never attacks humans. As for the ingenuity part, I'd remind you that dolphins and orcas exist.
Where I live, we have mountain lions. A huge amount of people also go hiking, backpacking, or camping often not to mention ORV usage. We’re taught as children that going into the woods we need to look around everywhere to not only watch for bears, wolves, and coyotes but also up in trees for mountain lions. We have small cats too, as bobcats are common as well.
Loved this video!! Also, “cats are predominately silent” Yeah, as a horse owner I relate. Name one horse scene in movie, the r tv; without a horse vocalization (whicker, neigh, snort etc.)
"This scene is totally unrealistic, no cat would ever act like this, the CGI is poor and the sound effects BD, I give it a 7." His ratings are very nice. 😂
I remember when the movie Beast came out, so many people hating on it, saying that it's so unrealistic, totally wrong, etc, and here a lion expert called that attack the most realistic one. 🤣
Definitely, i love seeing experts talk about something they’re knowledgeable and passionate about, they’re always so excited and it’s always so wholesome lol.
About cats using their body weight: some pet cats will do a forward flip move when they catch a toy. Like, making the prey animal carry their weight, and the cat using its momentum to put it right in front of where the prey animal is trying to escape to.
Everything mentioned is spot on, just one small note, the Lion King scene, when Cats are fighting and one rolls onto its back, it’s primarily a Submissive behaviour “I’ve lost, please leave”, if the fight continues they will try to get back onto all fours, then go back down on their back to submit once again.. they have a small advantage of all four paws facing up when on their backs but they won’t try to take advantage of that 👍🦁
Worth noting on Life of Pi: I haven't seen the movie, but in the book, after he jumps into the sea and swims to the buoy for safety, once he's calmed down he thinks that was a really stupid thing to do, as if RP wants to eat him he'll just swim over.
7:43 I can confirm this fact. I worked with several male lions in a big cat sanctuary in South Africa . I am convinced that you could ride one into battle.
I enjoy the idea of a person using an EpiPen they happen to be holding as a weapon of opportunity against a big attacking animal or even another person. I'd never think of that, but it might work if another person attacks you. A cougar or a black bear . . . ? I'm dubious. Will injecting them with insulin have any real impact on their blood pressure in anything like reasonable time? Could the claw-like inoculating point of such a thing ever injure them seriously excepting, perhaps, their eyes? Ah well -- It's probably for the best that this is the first time I've seen this use of an EpiPen on film. We wouldn't want kids seeing them as cool weapons and creating a whole new kind of medical situation experimenting with that idea.
Just stand there, try to look bigger than you really are, don't move or make a sound, maintain eye contact and be patient about it, and chances are 99% that the cat will back down. That's the way it is in the wild, but let's face it, it doesn't make that good a scene in a movie. Pass the popcorn.
We have cougars around here (BC), but they are usually avoiding human settlements. Full grown humans are generally to large to attack. The young ones and starving ones will sometimes chance going after a person. Sad too, because usually they end up getting shot, even for eating someone's little dog.
This guy is the kind of teacher that will rate your paper: "You barely knew about the topic, you arrived to a conclusion with no procedure, your conclusion was pulled from chatgpt...but you showed great curiosity during class, 7/10"
The passion this guy has is amazing! More of him please.
Yeah.. I feel the same
💯💯💯💯💯
I agree we want more 🎉
Ditto. He's fun to watch
Man I wish Steve Irwin was still alive to do these Expert Videos. It would have been perfect for him. He was made for this type of content.
Remember: the Oscar-winning CGI tiger that Mark praised in Life Of Pi was done by Rhythm & Hues, who immediately went bankrupt after the film launched. The artists protested outside the Academy Awards, SFX director Bill Westenhofer was cut off when he mentioned the work they'd done, and Ang Lee did not mention R&H at all.
Shameful.
They also used a real tiger on set for some shots for movements
Indeed.
Since then they are back in business. At least.
But why? Why not mention them? What was the issue?
@@demeter-the-greatthat’s like you finding out the cure for cancer and someone else takes credit and doesn’t include you
i like how this guy's favorite scene was the worst one lol, he appreciated it for what it was and not for trying to be real and failing, but failing on purpose. love it!
Honestly, the mere fact that +200kg cats exist still boggles my mind. You know how savage a normal house cat can be. Multiply by 100 and you have a lion or a tiger. The amount of dead you're about to be if that cat attacks you, is beyond most peoples comprehension. Big cats are simply incredible creatures.
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Really… cause house cats can run me away.
The Amur Tigers (biggest cat on the planet) have reached 300+kg.. when they stand on their back legs, they can reach 18ft tall, praise whoever they didn’t learn to walk around on twos 👍😂
Look up cave lions. And then be glad you'll never run into one!
@@essaboselin5252 Yes... prehistoric cats were even bigger and scarier. Not to mention prehistoric bears, like the shortfaced bear that could allegedly weigh up to 4000lbs or just under 2 tons 😳
This guy is probably the most generous when it comes to ratings lol. He’s so kind even when the scene is wildly inaccurate.
Which is my whole issue with lists like this. Lists are subjective at the best of times, but when a list claims to be reality-based, as this one does, it takes it to a whole new level of squalor.
Has cat in it, automatically a 5/10. Anything else is how good the scene is.
I think he's also rating it based on how much he likes the scene
@@catpoke9557 I think you’re right - but normally the experts review something based on their accuracy which is the whole point of having the experts. No hate for him, just wished he reviewed based on accuracy.
@@cruisinguy6024 Yeah I wish he did too
I was once on a national park that gave a list of things to do in case you were to be threatened by a puma. After the list of tips, there was a final sentence: "If all of this doesn't work, fight bravely". Thank you guys.
The one thing you NEVER do is turn your back on the cat as you attempt to leave the area. Never, ever, ever turn your back because it can stimulate the cats predatory instincts to charge.
The best one I've seen says "Do NOT go out of your cars. The tigers are carnivores and they WILL eat you". Saw it in a news where a woman went out of the car to fight her husband from outside the window. Note that he was the driver and she was on the passenger seat before they fought. She got mauled, the husband and his mother tried to help her but another tiger dragged his mother. The tigers ran away to eat her.
@@muchwithamouthdogepool255are you saying the mother AND wife were taken?
Always fight them
They are weak
@@turalmirzaliev1232 sure, Jan
The fact that big cats are so silent and can slip through the grass without being heard mever breaking eye contact is the most terrifying part.
The Maneater of Rudraprayang (leopard with 125 confirmed kill) once took a man right near from his friend. They shared a pipe (smoked tobacco), and when the host gave the pipe to his guest he thought his friend got it, hold it. And the pipe was fall to the floor, the sparks spread on the carpet they sat on. He wanted start arguing with his friend that could be more cautious not to set fire the carpet, but than he realized that his friend was already dead, and the saw the leopard dragged him out through the opened front door. Horrifying scene, for sure. This was in the famous of book of Jim Corbett, titled "Man-eating Leopard of Rudraprayag".
They need to be. If they weren’t able to do that, they wouldn’t catch prey. Still, I agree it is fascinating how stealthy these big cats can be.
2:14 "There are more tigers in captivity in the US alone than there are wild tigers in the entire world." I'm not _surprised_ by this statistic, but boy, does it break my heart. 😿😿😿
Many more, in fact. More tigers in captivity in the US alone than in the entire wild worldwide, and by an exponential factor, too.
And the irony is none of them are actually tigers! If wild tigers went extinct then these captive housecats would be all that left and it's sad cause they can't perform their duty
@@64bitman31wdym excuse me? Do you not understand what's at stake with having ALOT more animals in captivity than one the wild? If you don't that's even sadder.
@@64bitman31 hm idk maybe that tigers are endangered and any in captivity won't be able to survive in the wild
@@SkepstirStill waiting for what's at stake. It's one thing if you like tigers and another if they are a fundamental part of the universe.
Horrible to hear the pet tiger vs wild Tiger statistic. 😢
Yes and no.
Would it be better if those animals where free? Absolutely.
But it would be worse if they weren't there at all.
And:
Most "wild" animals that are held as pets are in fact bred from capivity and would propably not survive in the wild. They are not "subtracted" from the wild popularity.
Even more so:
Many handlers do truely care for the animal and will provide enough space, food and mental stimuly.
Sure, then you'll have the Tiger King-guys but they are the minority... But those are the ones who generate more media attention, so...
@@Kremit_the_Forgnah bro, you're looking at it all wrong. Just because the cats exist doesn't mean anything. They sit in an enclosure for their entire lives and have absolutely no effect on the environment they're from. We need wild tigers. An ecosystem needs many moving parts to function properly and if tigers are completely taken out of that equation, a lot of stuff will change.
@@Kremit_the_Forgi honestly have no clue what I'm talking about, but it sounds good, no?
Everyone seems to love seeing pet tigers and lions on Instagram without questioning "Hey, what's that tiger doing in a guy's living room anyway?" so it's not really that surprising. Same with servals, ocelots, cheetahs, and other big cats. Bring it up with people and you'll be told you're killing the mood. Meanwhile when these "pet" owners run out of money to care for them or have some kind of accident when their actual wild animal acts like an actual wild animal and they want to ditch them, the big cat either dies or gets dumped at a rescue struggling to keep up with care for all the others that met the same fate.
Write your representatives.
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I would definitely listen to a podcast of this man speaking 3 hours about cats
Absolutely. 💯
Easily.
Same
I love his passion for these amazing cats. The fact that there are more tigers in captivity in the US than the world is not crazy it's criminal.
Kinda is and kinda isnt. There are about 4500 wild tigers in the world. Lets say that there are 5500 tigers in captivity in the US. There are not enough habitat areas available to support 10000 wild tigers. 95% of the area where wild tigers used to live is gone because humans moved in.
So the only option you have for those tigers in captivity is either death or captivity.
@@_AnanasIEgenJuice_yes and that fact is criminal isnt it? The fact tigers have been murdered out and their habitat is destroyed is criminal.
We are 8 billion people and 1 Siberian Tiger can have a territory of up to 1000 km2. What do you propose?@@Bradchoksondik
At least the US is trying to save them
@@zzirfamo24Bullshit, those hillbilly run zoos are just exploiting them for money.
I would love to see this guy come back! I love cats, and his love for them shines through so well!
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I laughed so loud at this comment, I think I woke my neighbours up 😂.
2 dumb people above ☝️☝️
Agreed! It was so fun to listen to
“Cats have very small lungs.”
“Sir have you seen MY lungs?!” 😂
Uh, FUNNY HAHAHA. Ha…Ha ha…
Fr. Like "If you can just run fast enough to keep a distance for about half a mile you'll be safe". I got 30 feet in me at full sprint before I pull a hammy 😂
@@Shiny101I'm just going to trip and die before getting one foot of distance
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@@kristophersy773 That's me right there, wouldn't even make a full step and I'd be on the ground.
Most people (Including me) are so inactive these days-
I love this guy. He is so nice and explaining with passion even when it's not realistic. He is equally good as Forest Galante who appeared in 3 episodes as an expert. The difference between Forest and Mark is that Forest also add humor but both very professional.
I don't think he's actually seen all the movies though... Bheem in RRR is basically a superhuman, so yeah, he's gonna outrun a tiger, and be able to take a swipe from one.
@@nahor88 I see. Now I am curios to watch. Okay but I think we can agree with ease that a normal human would have died from even one slash.
@@eranshachar9954 Especially across the front. You'd have intestines everywhere.
Would of loved to hear from him about 2 things.
1. Mufasa vs the hyenas
2. Idris Elba’s Shere Khan
I do the whole quickstep thing with my little house cat whenever she tries to pounce on me. And I can confirm that it definitely works, even though she’s clearly not a lioness, a tigress, or even a cougar.
There's a saying amongst cat experts: "A cat is a cat"
Even though there are obviously some important differences between the different cat species, their overall behavior is VERY similar to one another.
That's why it's totally possible to keep a large predator cat as a pet - though 99.9% of people have no absolutely business doing so.
they may not be a big cat, but they sure think they are!
@@clicheguevara5282that is true a cat is a cat in all the sizes and shapes they come in
The expert was great and very enjoyable to watch, but how are you not going to have him rate “The Ghost and the Darkness” with Val Kilmer and Michael Douglas? This film is based on the Tsavo man-eaters, probably the most famous historical account of a big-cat attack.
Perhaps because they felt the movie was too disturbing to show? Not disturbing because of the lion kills but more Kilmer's terrible Irish accent.
Perhaps because it was a terrible film - absolutely appalling. For the record, the Michael Douglas character is complete fiction and made up. Anyone genuinely interested in the infamous Man-Eaters of Tsavo story is better served reading the original book, by Lt. Col. John H. Patterson (the Val Kilmer character), orig. published in 1907 (and written in the style of the times).
Agreed it should have been in video.
@@alexs.1242 I second this. If anyone is interested, I think it's like 99c on Kindle or perhaps even free.
@@alexs.1242Worst possible take. The movie could’ve used another round of edits to smooth out the pacing, but Remington is a spectacular Great White Hunter archetype, among Clayton & Roland Tembo, and it is a great Africa movie
Simba dancing and singing with Timon and Pumba
Mark: That's actually... REAL
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As a cat lover and a dedicated animal rescuer, his job is the envy of my heart. More of him please, would even better if there's a whole series on just him and big cats. Love it! ❤
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Mark was cool, please bring him back for more.
Yepp, there are other big cat movies, The Ghost and the Darkness (1996), Prey (2007), Rogue (2020), Burning Bright (2010), Maneater (2007), the South Korean "The Tiger" (2015), and sure some I missed to mention. Also there was a Dutch movie Prooi (Prey) (2016).
I love all cats in all their shapes and sizes and appreciate how different yet similar in their behavior they are, from the smallest to the largest 😊
One film that is missing here and which would provide quite a bit to unpack for this gentleman, is 'The Ghost and the Darkness'. I'm hoping you bring him back for more, because I enjoy his passion for these wonderful creatures!
I was just about to complain about that. Not discussing Ghost and the Darkness in a video like this is like not discussing Jaws in a video about shark-movies.
Could've had something related to the Beast of Gévaudan, too (like Brotherhood of the Wolf).
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Wow!! so good to see Dr. Mark here!! I remember first hearing about his tracking work with lion prides throughout Kruger from a professor at Uni. It is essentially his work in Kruger that has inspired myself and a few others to pursue field studies on the lion populations (some of which he mentions briefly at 7:29) particularly throughout Botswana and Tanzania. If you haven't seen or read about his work, definitely check him out. Some amazing field work this man has accomplished, not just with big cats but also wolves.
Nice to see him bringing factual information and busting a few fabricated myths without completely shading the work of the film industry haha. One that particularly amuses me is film depictions of apex predators making guttural and loud vocalizations (obviously for dramatic effect) as they approach a hunt. The same can be said for dinosaurs as well in some depictions, but the point is, why on earth would a hungry predator with the objective of stealth want to announce its presence?.
Thanks for the informative comment, just got his survival book!
Cool
I like this gentleman, he's so generous with even the ridiculous ones, he was very pleasant to watch and listen to his explanations :)
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I love that the first line of defense in the bulk of nature is some combination of change size/make loud noises/be as scary as possible
That's because all predators try very hard to avoid getting hurt. The predator thinks "Okay, this one looks really tough and there's a very real chance they could permanently handicap me. I will back off because if I do get hurt, then I won't be able to get food anymore and I'll starve."
Huh, I didn't realize there were so many cougar attacks in movies. I live in an area where cougars are pretty common, even found cougar tracks over mine when I went out on a hike once and was on my return trip, and I'm just not scared of them at all. Cougars don't attack humans very much, and even when they do the human pretty much always surprised unless they're a child. They're just really bad at killing humans, and I'm pretty sure they know it. Honestly they tend to just be incredibly shy; 99% of the time if you're in an area with a cougar you won't see them. If you _do_ see them it's usually because they spotted you and are in the process of leaving the area in a hurry, lol.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. In my experience, mountain lions - aka pumas in the southern Americas - are shy and retiring, and more inclined to run and hide than attack people. In my career as a journalist, there was one case of a mountain lion that jumped on a rider on a horse, and another (unrelated) instance of a cougar trying (and failing) to nab a jogger. In both cases, the cat was a young male in thin condition, on the verge of starvation, likely an inexperienced hunter newly separated from its mom and struggling to fend for itself on its own. A far cry from the savage, marauding beast these ratty movies often make them out to be.
Someone has never played Red Dead Redemption…
(They’re one of the scariest animals to encounter because you don’t spot them. Good to know they’re not likely to go after you in the wild.)
Cat attacks of any kind are much more rare than people realize. ...but yeah, cougar attacks are extremely rare. There are something like 40k cougars in North America and on average, only about 5 of them attack a human per year. ..and if I remember correctly, less than 1 of those attacks per year is deadly.
There's actually a guy in Russia who has a pet cougar named Messi and it literally lives inside the house like a normal pet. It's one of the sweetest, most chill cats I've ever seen. Lol His videos are so entertaining. They also have a pet cheetah. Cheetahs and cougars are actually close cousins when it comes to evolution.
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10:12 I feel like in the slow-mo the tiger is moving too slow. I remember seeing a slo-mo video of a domestic cat swatting a dog's face, and the cat looked like they were moving at a normal speed while the dog was in slow motion. Cats are terrifyingly fast at striking with their paws.
This gentleman is both passionate and knowledgeable 🐅🐆🦁🐯
Can we get this guy to rate the leopard scenes from Tarzan (the animated one?) Loved his enthusiasm!
Had the misfortune to be face to face with a mountain lion and you have to fight every gut reaction to turn and run.
Stand still, maintain eye contact, make yourself appear larger than you really are (by holding your arms out, better if you're wearing a jacket and can spread the sleeves out to look like part of your body) and most cats will quietly back off and walk away. "Whatever you do, don't run" is a common refrain in the bush, and with good reason. Cats are opportunistic hunters, and running is a trigger that you may be something worth eating, even if they're not particularly hungry at the time. It's a survival reflex in cats - all cats. Instinctive from birth.
Woah o.o I would probably freeze because my brain shuts down
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Does this work with lions and tigers?@@alexs.1242
@@alexs.1242and don’t make stupid sudden movements! Actually theory is great, but in reality the most will run or just surrender 😂😂😂😂😂
one important thing is to note is that predators are looking for victims, not opponents, going confrontational towards big cats is generally advised, with tigers being a notable exception as all you'll accomplish there is to raise your status from prey to hated enemy.
best way to survive a tiger attack is to bring a friend who's a more enticing target than you, because chances are you don't know that there even is a tiger until one of you is already dead.
"I don't need to outrun the tiger, I just need to outrun you!"
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Too bad they didn't include the black jaguar attack from the movie "Apocalypto", which is pretty accurate, from what I read: this species favors a penetrating bite into the skull for the kill, as opposed to going for the throat for many other big cats.
Fun fact about that. The main actor actually ran in front of the real panther!
Yes! That is why jaguars have such a strong bite. They prefer to penetrate the skull for a quick kill rather than a slow bleed.
Yeah
Aww this expert is such a sweetheart! Such a gentle take on even the dodgiest of scenes. 🙂
If you have him on again I would love his take on Chunky the Death Cat from "The Croods" - I immediately thought of that film when he mentioned that hunting cats try to be as quiet as possible rather than announce their presence to their prey.
A fellow Croods fan I see!😊
I would have liked to have seen your response to the Jaguar scene in Apocolypto.
Again, these lists tend to be very lazy and made up on the fly. I doubt this fellow is even aware of Apocalypto, let alone seen it.
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These videos are always great stuff. I love seeing someone talk about something they're passionate about and have tons of expertise with.
The Lion King Movie was very underrated in my opinion. As I had lived with house cats for my entire life, I was in awe about the movement and face gestures of the animated lions. It was very natural (in the setting of the movie).
People bad talked this movie a lot and found it weird. But I liked, that the lions behaved very realistic. Best "cat" movie, I have ever seen.
I think having a title of a Big-Cat Expert is a dream for a lot of us.
Apocalypto should have been on here! That's a pretty great and graphic scene and accurate on how Jaguars bite through skulls of their prey
Good point on cats and lung capacity. People always say why are cats so lazy or sleep all day. That's because when they are hunting for food or active, it's actually a very intensive activity for them.
Love this guy's expertise and teaching demeanor
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p.s. also Out of Africa (1985, dir. Sidney Pollack) - for me, the lioness charge was both realistic and utterly credible. Wild lions can be relatively disinterested, bored even, when you're in a vehicle, but when you're on foot it's a whole different story. Out of Africa is just a movie - Robert Redford is miscast as the real-life character Denys Finch Hatton, for starters - and completely made up, I get that. That said, I was taken aback by just how realistic that scene with the lioness in Out of Africa really is. The silences for one. Movies as a rule don't do silence well, especially not in action thrillers set in the wilds of Africa.
That was such a great movie. Beside the actual big cat thing the acting was filled with so much passion and feelings those days. I miss movies like those ones. I cannot watch a movie which is all about the spectacular action scenes and sight but no story at all.
I'd have loved to hear your opinion about a few more big cat attacks from movies: Burning Bright, Prey, Gladiator, Jungle Book, Sandokan, Tarzan, Two Brothers...
I work in Vfx industry, heart and soul goes into making everything real including animals.
I can not describe here how lengthy, time consuming and detailed oriented the whole process is.
thanks for mentioning it.
I personally think cats of all shapes and sizes are beautiful creatures but the larger ones are best admired from afar
Couple of honourable mentions of you happen to make another one of these videos.
Apocalypto - There's a pretty decent panther attack. Uses a real panther (which the main actor actually ran in front of!) then switches to a fake one.
Tiger: An Old Hunters Tale - Amazing CGI! *A lot* of attacks on humans, some on animals.
Homeward Bound maybe? - There's a scene where a mountain lion chases two dogs, but there's no attack so to speak. But it was a real cat.
The Ghost and the Darkness - About the man eating lions of T'savo. Again a lot of attacks on humans. A lot of camera angle tricks, but 99% of the shots are with real lions.
Assuming he is average height, if a lion’s eye level with his chest, that means I would be eye-to-eye with a lion. That is terrifying and amazing
Great video!
Suggestion: Would you ever consider doing a Brazilian Jiu-Jistu artist rates how realistic grappling scenes are in movies?
And also rate the jiu-jitsu in Attack on Titan. 😅
Missed opportunity to talk about the Ghost and the Darkness, underrated movie based on a true story about lion attacks would have loved a discussion of the movie and events surrounding it.
Sad fact about the Lion in Beast: The movie tried to make you view that poor cat as the main villain, when really it’s the poachers who were the main villains and what this Lion was doing was getting revenge on the group of poachers that killed its entire pride. I felt sad for the Lion I honestly don’t blame it for going rogue.
About Beast, I agree with the lethal prognosis haha. The end of the movie shows him in a hospital and apparently he's fine, but there is no god damn way a real person would survive an attack like that. We didn't see the entire clip here, but the lion bites *deep* into the man's torso multiple times (with it's oversized fangs lol) so in real life it would have punctured multiple organs. It ripped up the guys arms and legs, torn blood vessels. So even if they got him to an operating room immediately, which they couldn't because they were in the middle of nowhere, dude would be dead. No way he'd survive.
You know it's really good when RRR is mentioned in the video.
+1
Would have loved to hear his take on the Saber Tooth from 10000BC
Oh boy, another expert react video! Made my day!
Mark Elbroch's books about how to track animals are so amazing. Just by reading through his Mammals of North America tracking book, I've learned how to collect the right data to identify tracks, how to tell how an animal died, etc. So very cool and so worth checking out if you have an interest in the natural history in your area.
Aslan's attack against the witch in Narnia gave me goosebumps.🔥🦁
The Bear was set in an mountainous area with lots of Trees so that was accurate setting.
If it was taken place more up towards Alaska than he would have a point about accuracy wise.
One thing I just love about cats in general is their confidence. I think we've all seen the clips of house cats chasing away dogs, bears, gators, what have you. And while they are built for hunting, what really makes them impressive and scary is that defense mentality. It's like they're signaling that even if you can beat them, they're gonna hurt you so bad it's not worth it.
I was so glad to see beast in here, one of my favorite movies relating to realism, I absolutely love how they ended the movie with the lions fighting other lions, totally realistic and awesome to see
Indeed.
I love this series. There' so much to learn from those people dedicating their lives to what they appreciate so much.
Loved watching this, so good to hear a real experienced person saying how it is. Well done !!!!!
0:58 “Mr. Simba may now take questions”
I'm not convinced I'd ever have the confidence to try and intimidate a big cat like that, if one ever confronted me like he suggested. I definitely don't have the stamina to out run one either! It would be quite a roll of the dice on what my brain goes with.
I have been watching "How Real is it" animal videos, and i have to say they are probably my favorite, with rare exceptions in my other areas of interest, but in general, love them, love the passion the experts show for the animals, and the little tidbits of information they drop every time. Just love them.
Always great to see this kind of knowledge and passion about the theme, 10/10.
I've seen an impala disappear into the darkness 15m from me, just from the impact of a lioness at full tilt. Crazy how big they are, and the strength! I was on a game drive at night in South Africa, in an open Land-Rover and we came across a whole herd of impala just starting to go manic, lions were on the hunt...and after a few moments the guide swivelled the the spot light to the left, there was a split second when he stopped on an impala, it looked up at us, and then it was gone in a blur...swivel the light a bit to the right and there was the lioness right on top of its prey...all within 15m from where I was sitting in an open topped vehicle...what an experience!
you guys always bring in top tier experts!
No, no, no, NO. Dereck and Beverly Joubert are experts, Steve Winter is an expert, Dr. Laurie Marker is a top-tier expert. This guy, not in the same league.
This guy's very generous with his ratings of these scenes
Would have loved to see some analysis of the big fight at the end of the live jungle book movie
The way he said 'wolves always have the upper hand' gave me chills!!!!
It may not be totally accurate but RRR is an INCREDIBLE movie
RRR was a shitfest of a movie. Unbelievably overblown overhyped movie. The VFX was utter dross and embarrassing.
I love how calm this Guy is. He would absolutely read bedtimestories for lioncups
At 14:48 where he says ‘..it’s the domain of the wolves!’ you could feel the dread that he has about wolves. No animals comes close to ingenuity of wolves when it comes to killing its prey, or its competitors.
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Actually, wolves have significantly lower success rates than mountain lions when it comes to hunting and have been seen following mountain lions around so that when the lion makes a kill, the wolves can steal it.
Researchers have also witnessed mountain lions making extra kills and storing them away to bring out later after the wolves have taken their other kill. When the researchers followed the cougar around themselves, the cougar would lead them to kill its made in an attempt to get the researchers to go away because it thought they were doing what the wolves do.
Not to say wolves aren't really cool because they are, and their social dynamics are fascinating; just saying cougars are also very smart and interesting 👍
Yeah I don't think anything in this comment holds up 😅 I don't see why would a wildlife expert feel any dread towards an animal that never attacks humans. As for the ingenuity part, I'd remind you that dolphins and orcas exist.
It makes me really happy to see a lot of mountain lions in movies. They gotta be my favorite big cats.
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Wow I really learned a lot Today📚 thanks for the video ❤️ I really appreciate it .
Where I live, we have mountain lions. A huge amount of people also go hiking, backpacking, or camping often not to mention ORV usage. We’re taught as children that going into the woods we need to look around everywhere to not only watch for bears, wolves, and coyotes but also up in trees for mountain lions. We have small cats too, as bobcats are common as well.
Loved this video!!
Also, “cats are predominately silent”
Yeah, as a horse owner I relate.
Name one horse scene in movie, the r tv; without a horse vocalization (whicker, neigh, snort etc.)
This gentleman was wonderful to watch and learn from - I hope he returns! Perhaps evaluate the value Kilmer "the ghost and the darkness"
Wow this guy did a fantastic job. I love the one on the Lion King.
And if you look at the original version, they also did the same thing. But they did observe real lions.
“You don’t let your prey know you’re coming”😂😂😂
"This scene is totally unrealistic, no cat would ever act like this, the CGI is poor and the sound effects BD, I give it a 7."
His ratings are very nice. 😂
I remember when the movie Beast came out, so many people hating on it, saying that it's so unrealistic, totally wrong, etc, and here a lion expert called that attack the most realistic one. 🤣
Loved the bear video and now this big cat video is also amazing! Honestly overall, I love animal expert videos
Definitely, i love seeing experts talk about something they’re knowledgeable and passionate about, they’re always so excited and it’s always so wholesome lol.
About cats using their body weight: some pet cats will do a forward flip move when they catch a toy. Like, making the prey animal carry their weight, and the cat using its momentum to put it right in front of where the prey animal is trying to escape to.
Everything mentioned is spot on, just one small note, the Lion King scene, when Cats are fighting and one rolls onto its back, it’s primarily a Submissive behaviour “I’ve lost, please leave”, if the fight continues they will try to get back onto all fours, then go back down on their back to submit once again.. they have a small advantage of all four paws facing up when on their backs but they won’t try to take advantage of that 👍🦁
Shut up professor, cats fight on their back because it's a defensive posture to protect the spine.
Worth noting on Life of Pi: I haven't seen the movie, but in the book, after he jumps into the sea and swims to the buoy for safety, once he's calmed down he thinks that was a really stupid thing to do, as if RP wants to eat him he'll just swim over.
" There more Tigers in captivity than they are in the wild"
Me : Casual Geographic was ▶️ right
7:43 I can confirm this fact. I worked with several male lions in a big cat sanctuary in South Africa . I am convinced that you could ride one into battle.
I enjoy the idea of a person using an EpiPen they happen to be holding as a weapon of opportunity against a big attacking animal or even another person. I'd never think of that, but it might work if another person attacks you. A cougar or a black bear . . . ? I'm dubious. Will injecting them with insulin have any real impact on their blood pressure in anything like reasonable time? Could the claw-like inoculating point of such a thing ever injure them seriously excepting, perhaps, their eyes? Ah well -- It's probably for the best that this is the first time I've seen this use of an EpiPen on film. We wouldn't want kids seeing them as cool weapons and creating a whole new kind of medical situation experimenting with that idea.
Just stand there, try to look bigger than you really are, don't move or make a sound, maintain eye contact and be patient about it, and chances are 99% that the cat will back down. That's the way it is in the wild, but let's face it, it doesn't make that good a scene in a movie. Pass the popcorn.
Damn the way the claws of that tiger came forward, and how terrifying they look🥶
I feel like this should be on an inspirational poster, "To see an old lion without any scars means that lion has been bred in captivity"
If Insider gets this guy back for a followup (which you should), next time do The Ghosts & The Darkness.
We have cougars around here (BC), but they are usually avoiding human settlements. Full grown humans are generally to large to attack. The young ones and starving ones will sometimes chance going after a person. Sad too, because usually they end up getting shot, even for eating someone's little dog.
Please come back and do another clip, really enjoyed this!
Off topic but lion king 2019 was a good looking movie in terms of animation
A lion expert should analyze the whole Lion King remake.
11:06 In d movie he’s not trying to outrun the Lion. He’s trying to lure it to the trap.
You've gotta have him back to review "Roar" (1981)!
Mountain lions can scream, but not roar. They sound like a possessed woman when they scream.
This guy is the kind of teacher that will rate your paper: "You barely knew about the topic, you arrived to a conclusion with no procedure, your conclusion was pulled from chatgpt...but you showed great curiosity during class, 7/10"
wow So Scar was bred in wild and Mufasa in captivity?
Actually Mufasa has also some little scars on his face, you can check it out in some of the movie posters that shows his face.
I'm surprised that "The Ghost and the Darkness, Burning Bright, Maneater, and Prey." Weren't reacted to.